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lawani:
Well, we were brought up to show respect. Then how do you mean Yoruba was established 700 years ago when the Yoruba calendar is over ten thousand years?. There have been people living on Yoruba land for over ten thousand Years. A team of Itsekiri scholars wrote a paper where they showed that the ancient Egyptians spoke Yoruba. They identified hundreds of words with the same meaning and that is over five thousand years ago. There is a Ptahhotep saying in the book of the dead translated from the hieroglyphics. It was written by an European ibn nfr du bw bn. It means where we loved became an evil place. In modern Yoruba it is Ibi Afe di Ibi Ibi. The language spoken by ancient Egyptians five thousand years ago can be reasonably understood by modern Yoruba people and that is that far back. Then the modern dynasty of the Yoruba is well over one thousand five hundred years. Ife is on its 51st king, IJESA on 48th while Oyo is on 46th. In Ife they say the penultimate dynasty had 90 kings. Would you say there were no people on Yoruba land even ten thousand years ago?. Would you say they had no kings etc etc. In my opinion, the Yoruba are the longest standing civilization on Earth. They have been living in cities longer than any other nation.

You are a fucking idiot
Just that simple

10,000 years old utter bullshit

You come from the ife empire, but they WERE NOT YORUBA!!

The actual Yoruba culture is 14th century
Actually get off your fucking ass and read what your ancestors said

Books and scrolls and texts and tablets written by them BEFORE THE FUCKING INTERNET

lawani:
Yeah, its wrong to blame white people for what the British or the French did. You can't blame Ghanaians for what Nigerians did. People are divided into ethnicities and nations and not into colors and in fact given the space between.them, West Africans maybe as related to some Europeans as they are to East Africans. Your phenotype is determined by the latitude of your habitat. Russians and Celts are as unrelated as West Africans and Celts. Given their distance apart.
On Nigerian culture, I am Yoruba and our culture has been established over thousands of years. I guess what upsets you is the mega show of respect and its spillover during engagement ceremonies. If you want to marry a Yoruba and you don't want it then discuss with your fiance.
A big problem that Nigeria is facing is unhealthy competition between the three big ethnicities. The country is not united at all. A silent civil war is going on and that is why I am an advocate of disintegration here.
The people in power here also don't realize that the people at the bottom of the wage ladder must be intentionally taken care of and that the minimum wage must be high enough to bear high tax. They don't realize that a high and taxable minimum wage must be imposed on all employers of labor and that it is how to build a country. Western Europe is not doing more than that.

Mate stop believing the utter fucking bullshit your fathers and the father before them keep telling you

You keep claiming yoruba culture is ancient

It's fucking not, you are one the youngest tribes in Nigeria, barely 700 years old established in the 14th century, 1300 YEARS AFTER CHRIST

Compare that ijaw the oldest at around 800 bce, 800 year BEFORE CHRIST!!

I'm tired of the utter fucking nonsense your elders fucking teach you foolish people

You cannot claim bullshit and expect the world to believe it when the evidence says different

Nigeria wasn't even a fucking country until 1914 and an official independent country until 1960 something

The land was always there but not the fucking name or cultures or the lies and bullshit

So technically none of you fucking Nigerians at all

Everything yoruba elders say and claim about their culture and history is mostly bullshit and nonsense they think up and imagine to make them seem more important then the fucking are

You want the world to see you as God's when in reality you are more like self righteous, stuck up, fake holier than thou, petulant fucking men children

You treat all your sons like dogs
Telling them to get on the floor on their stomachs for an act of worship and submission calling it respect when really it's insecure old men wanting to seem all big and powerful for an ego boost

And enjoy the erection and ejaculation in your pants feeling from it so much that you lie through your teeth about it and try and force it on everyone in the world

It's mental fucking sickness to an extreme

A FUCKING GOD COMPLEX

And you so fucking petty about it that if a man just says no I'm not doing the prostration shit AT MY WEDDING you expect him to put on a big show of pretending to offer to do it so you can save face and look like big men refusing to do it

Now Compare that to all other tribes in Nigeria that don't expect prostration

You tell them your not Kneeling for a blessing and not a big deal to them

They compromise or just fucking drop it immediately because there is no such thing as half a blessing if the woman gets blessed then the marriage is blessed

You are ridiculous as a people that do not value respect at all

You value being treated like gods and throw a tantrum if people say no

lawani:
Yeah, its wrong to blame white people for what the British or the French did. You can't blame Ghanaians for what Nigerians did. People are divided into ethnicities and nations and not into colors and in fact given the space between.them, West Africans maybe as related to some Europeans as they are to East Africans. Your phenotype is determined by the latitude of your habitat. Russians and Celts are as unrelated as West Africans and Celts. Given their distance apart.
On Nigerian culture, I am Yoruba and our culture has been established over thousands of years. I guess what upsets you is the mega show of respect and its spillover during engagement ceremonies. If you want to marry a Yoruba and you don't want it then discuss with your fiance.
A big problem that Nigeria is facing is unhealthy competition between the three big ethnicities. The country is not united at all. A silent civil war is going on and that is why I am an advocate of disintegration here.
The people in power here also don't realize that the people at the bottom of the wage ladder must be intentionally taken care of and that the minimum wage must be high enough to bear high tax. They don't realize that a high and taxable minimum wage must be imposed on all employers of labor and that it is how to build a country. Western Europe is not doing more than that.

Mate the whole race thing is utterly idiotic

Look at dogs as an example

Labradors and golden retrievers as an example

Basically genetically identical, but come in vastly different colours and sizes, do you see them arguing and bickering who's best and who's superior and who should be respected?

Or do they just get excited to see each other and get on?

Race is a stupid human construct and nothing more

We all come from Africa no matter what race of ethnicities or culture and I don't care what your bible says, the first humans were black, and every man or woman or child in the world can trace their dna back to one woman in Africa called mitochondrial eve

The dna is all humans passed down through mothers and mothers only

All race is, is a mutation to adapt to new environments

I'm only fucking white because my ancestors left Africa on a land bridge about 200,000 years ago and white skin absorbs vitamin d better in less sunny climates

And the only races were separated for so long was because tectonic plates on the earth shifted and the land bridge got destroyed

You can literally see tectonic movement in action today because a new sea is slowly forming in Africa where the land is splitting

Though at the moment I cannot remember what African nation

I've been thinking, all these problems could be fixed if all Nigerian men had a simple and efficient medical procedure done the day they become fathers

A neurological reset and recalibration

Basically immediately after a Nigerian woman gives birth the nurse runs in to the room and beats the father around the head with a lump of wood successfully knocking some sense into the entitled to nothing asshole

You men need the world more than the world needs you

As other African countries are becoming self-sufficient, turning downs loans from us saying we don't need you anymore and focusing resource management and actually letting good people run the countries

You're like the disappointing step child that's still living in your mother's basement and the biggest joke is that if you let one of the women here run the country they'd do a better job then you men

Look at them, they get better education
Better grades
When they get independence from you men they become more successful than you

And you think they should be housewives while you work minimum wage

Mate they are more men than you are

They've got more balls than you
A stronger spine

More capable, more tolerant
More loving
More loyal

And you don't see what you've got in those queen's

You're fucking idiots and them being like that has got nothing to do with you

If anyone should be thanked then it's the mothers and aunts

Not the dickless and ball less fathers that took 5 minutes to pump, grunt then cum and don't even do the bare minimum a father should

You men are utterly disgusting that's just a fact

Cultures are meant to be shared not forced and not dominated

Everywhere else in the world when 2 Cultures meet and marry they blend

It's intercultural

But Nigerian men are vile pieces of excrement when it comes to marrying one of the queen's here

You men want domination
You want worship
You want to begged
You want to be thanked for doing fucking nothing
You want payment and you want your egos stroked for what you call traditions and culture but is a bare faced lie because it's only a fucking tradition if....

1) you're doing it for the reasons your ancestors did

2) you actually do what your ancestors said it was for

3) offer what it's fucking for

Why the Bleep do you think you deserve

An introduction your way with you who you say attends

A bride price

And full fucking traditions only celebrating your culture and your way of life then expect that man to see you as family after if you have a heart attack or stroke later in life?

What the Bleep do you men contribute to the world?

The number 1 industry here is oil

The number 2 industry here is fraud and scamming

It's like scamming and fraud is a rite of passage for a Nigerian man, you literally sell books here telling how to scam little old ladies in other countries out of their pension that they worked a lifetime to build up

While you sit on your ass broke barely surviving on £50 per month because your government doesn't think you deserve a living wage

You talk about slavery and blame all white for what the British did

And you won't open your eyes to the fact that your government are basically treating you like slaves making you work for peanuts

The equivalent of £50 a month the average fucking salary here

SultanOfPuna:
I can swear with my 2 balls that your igbo wife was not a virgin when you married her. Fvck outta here with all that histroy bullcrap😒

Dick and illiterate fool, I never said my Igbo wife was a virgin

That's the fucking point you utter fucking retard

Why should the world play along with your fake culture?

You get on your knees and suck the cock of a woman's father to marry, you get on your stomach for some yoruba rapist

But don't tell us we have to do it

What do we care about a dumb ass fake ceremony made up by igbo chieftain in the 11th century that's just a waste of time and not legally married once it's just to stroke the ego of igbo men

Why the would I dress up and play pretend for a day, pretend to be the culture of men that are utter fucking scum and abuse the women they marry

That goes for all tribes, your traditional weddings literally mean fucking nothing

It's only married for Nigerians in Nigeria

It's not married for anyone else anywhere else in the world it's a waste of time

lawani:
That is remarkable. I have never been in any war. However according to my IFA research, anybody you kill in war will be given priority to incarnate in your family within three days.

Mate like I've said on here many times

MOS 11B

Military operative specialist

So officially I was a sniper in the royal Marines but was highly adaptable and took many roles from interrogation to investigation to counter terrorism to battlefield combat instructor

There is nothing remarkable about war there is not glory in it anymore and even an utter fucking sociopath like me regrets alot of it

lawani:
Well, some mathematical concepts are like that. They can not be proved but are used widely

Mate don't ruin maths

Maths make money, interest and loopholes in the tax system are wonderful

lawani:
But you can't live and let live with religion. The constitution of religion says all Earth's spiritualities must be extinguished. If somebody wants to kill you, you have to fight them

Mate I've done enough killing my life so dont joke about that

I've fought for many countries that are not my own

Fought in a Christian war in Afghanistan, trust me killing and taking a life is the easiest thing in the world, you just turn your emotions off for that moment

Just long enough to pull a trigger or dig a blade in
But once the emotions go back on, living with it after is the hard part

lawani:
I am just telling you that Christianity is even more ridiculous than Islam.

From my perspective all religions and all faiths and anything that can't be proven with science are ridiculous

lawani:
If you use teachable methodologies like divination and you don't have holy books, will it be fair to classify you as religion with Christianity and Islam?. They are scientific for their use of teachable divination. Therefore myself and many others don't refer to non proselytizing traditional spiritualities as religions to make the fight against religion easier. A synonym of religion is fascism. Religion is spiritual fascism.

Not only Islam, Christianity too needs to go extinct. Imagine employing people to spread the idea that past and future crimes have been paid for?

What all future crimes?

So you mean if I spank the ass of hot woman next door as a married man the next time she's bent over

I've got a get out of jail free card?

Are you willing to tell my Mrs this important information? All future crimes have already been paid for

She's a Christian so if her God said its true then she has to accept it

lawani:
If you use teachable methodologies like divination and you don't have holy books, will it be fair to classify you as religion with Christianity and Islam?. They are scientific for their use of teachable divination. Therefore myself and many others don't refer to non proselytizing traditional spiritualities as religions to make the fight against religion easier. A synonym of religion is fascism. Religion is spiritual fascism.

Mate live and let live
If you need a book of rules to tell you how to be good then by definition you are not a good person because you need that book of rules to tell you

Go on YouTube and watch a video called the greater insult

It's a 15 minute cartoon where a Christian, a Muslim and atheist meet God after death

The God in that video is the one people should believe in if any and that cartoon was made by an atheist

lawani:
I don't think Yahweh is the right God. Yahweh is not decent at all and I am not trying to convert you. I also don't see traditional spiritualities that use divination as religion. Only Christianity and Islam are religions. They are the ONLY ways. Others are not like that. There is no problem with being an atheist so far you are a good person but if you learn any divination you will not be one. That is my point

Now that's just stupid saying only Christianity and Islam are religions

First off all there are 3 Abrahamic religions

Jews came first because Jesus was a jew

Then Christianity like 2000 years later

And Islam 700 years after that now Islam is ridiculous

The quran says don't be friends with Jews or Christians

But it also says that Jesus was a good prophet and they respect Jesus and he'll return later

That's a major contradiction, they say the quran is the word of God and is 100% true and to hate all Jews but they love and respect jesus and admit he was a jew

Islam needs to go extinct it's a rapists handbook nothing more

lawani:
Post Christianity, there were recorded and well known atheists but pre Christianity there were none that I know of.

Mate post Christianity counts as now too
So that's an oxymoron

What makes you think yahweh is the right god?.

The norse religion is like 2000 years older then that crap and if that crap was real thor would cook jesus

Then the Greek gods are older then Christianity
Why not zues?

The roman gods

Mate every culture thinks up nonsense to explain the things that go bump in the night but the more science advances the less hold that superstitious rubbish has

If you took all religious texts on earth and destroyed them in 2000 years those religions would not come back in the same form

But If you took all science books and destroyed that in 2000 years all that would come back the same because all the tests would yeld the same results

Again not me saying that, that's Ricky Gervais again

The man's a funny little genius

lawani:
I was not around but I read history. Atheism is basically a response to religion. Nobody was bothering anybody about conversion back then and your spirituality was a complete package in your culture. No only way and there were nothing for anybody to fight against or rebel against

No mate

Atheism isn't a belief system
It's a lack of belief

You say God exists so I say prove it, see you get Atheists completely wrong

You can't see oxygen but we know it's real because it can be physically tested, measured, weighed and fills our lungs

Mate do the one thing that no man or woman in the history of the world has ever done and pull real evidence of a god out of your ass that can tested, those tests repeated to verify

Weighed, measured and so on and every single Atheist in the world would instantly believe whatever was literally just imperically proven

Because it would be a proven and scientific fact not a belief or a faith

lawani:
What can end evil is when how to access the akashic record is known to all. According to my IFA, spirits are not evil in their society just because they can't hide any secrets from each other. If we can move towards that then our society will advance.

Mate society will never truly advance to its full potential with populations of 108 million men like for example Nigerian stuck in the dark ages and lying about ritual and traditions crap of long dead people that were actually truly evil

lawani:
According to my IFA there are 48 kinds of human being based on the maturity of their spirit. Spirits are individuals on their own and they are why no two people are thesame

So can you prove that? Other than the 8 or 9 species of extinct humans we found already?

Neanderthals that most Europeans have 2-4% dna of?

Homo habilis?

Denisovans?

Homo erectus?

Etc?

lawani:
OK but the chaos only started when religions were invented. Before Christianity there was spiritual decorum on Earth. Don't throw everything away because of religion.
There were practically no atheists on Earth before religions were invented

Well actually the whole universe is in chaos but all things in existence naturally seek disorder in that chaos, at the end of the day entropy will always rule

lawani:
According to my IFA research, our spirits are the ones in charge here and one among them with incarnation experience but no current incarnation is designated as God. Who created the spirits is where we have to stop. No answer to that but we are under the spirits here and their joint power is real

Great, my spirit is decent bottle of 25 year old scotch, cheers 🍻

lawani:
OK but the chaos only started when religions were invented. Before Christianity there was spiritual decorum on Earth. Don't throw everything away because of religion.
There were practically no atheists on Earth before religions were invented

How do you know there know atheists? Were you around at that time?

The word atheist should not exist mate

The way the great Ricky Gervais explains it
There are 5 million gods and goddesses worshipped on earth today and you deny 4,999,999 of them I just deny 1 more than you

lawani:
I understand you. IFA too said I should just take it like that. Who created the creator is the big question. However I have a theory of cyclical creation. A created B B created C and C created A all over again

So how does this solve the problem of evil or the euthyphro dilema?

lawani:
I understand you. IFA too said I should just take it like that. Who created the creator is the big question. However I have a theory of cyclical creation. A created B B created C and C created A all over again

So basically a rip off of the Greek philosophers with a twist

I think therfore I am

The universe created itself
Then created something to observe it or what's the point of it existing at all
Then whatever the universe created to observe it thought up God so he exists

Interesting but utter tripe

lawani:
Fenrir you might want to read this too

No thanks mate

Atheist please learn the definition and meaning
I don't need an imaginary to talk to give my life purpose

Causing chaos is good enough for me

lawani:
Fenrir, you might want to read this

No thanks mate
I dated a woman that believed that stuff and I backed away slowly because that nonsense is insane

lawani:
I know how to use IFA divination. If you use any kind of divination, you would believe in God. I believe in God. The answers you get from divination are from your spirit and your spirit is one of billions of spirit. The headship of the spirit world is God.

Mate don't try and convert an atheist it will never work

1) you believe everything needs a creator to be created

So what the Bleep created your God, he can't just have farted himself into existence like the skidmark of the universe that just won't wash away

You cannot say that everything needs a creator then say the creator was not created

lawani:
I don't believe in evolution. I believe in intelligence behind existence but we can't know more than that. I tried to dig with the IFA oracle but no luck. It said we should just know it did not come by chance. I have a book in the offing about it all

So you either believe in God or aliens
Now please don't get me started on aliens

This universe is huge so aliens are mathematically, logically and theoretical possible

God isn't

But all the fools on this planet claiming they were abducted are giving me the sneaking suspicion that aliens might be gay

Space is seriously vast and constantly expanding
So if aliens can travel to earth they have knowledge and technology that far exceeds our understanding

So what could they possibly learn from kidnapping strange human and sticking things up their arse all those alien abduction nutters said they had anal probes

So they either belong in a looney bin

Or

Aliens are gay

lawani:
It can only go on for some time before they won't be able to take it any longer. Not only Muslims but also pentecostal Christians from Nigeria running empires in Europe collecting tithes and offerings and teaching that Jesus died for all sins two thousand years ago. It is a shame.

Mate that won't work

The British did that to you, you can't give it back now

They basically treated you like the little siblings
Leaving you all the crap they don't need anymore like the slightly broken PlayStation controller that technically still works

But for you it was the bible because who needs that until there is a toilet paper shortage

[quote author=lawani post=135001953]I agree with you totally on Yahweh but I disagree on evolution. Different sexes came to be on the same day because how did they procreate while evolving?. Then all the species within a functioning habitat appeared in an instant because when the cows appeared there must be fodder for it to eat and etc. The most advanced species (us) must have also appeared with them on that day.
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Mate under your logic you're the type of person that argues what came first

The chicken or the egg, there was no first chicken and the chickens that exist today we bloody made through selective breeding

Evolution is a gradual effect over millions or billions of years

And of course the egg came first
Dinosaurs were laying eggs before chickens came around

lawani:
I agree with you totally on Yahweh but I disagree on evolution. Different sexes came to be on the same day because how did they procreate while evolving?. Then all the species within a functioning habitat appeared in an instant because when the cows appeared there must be fodder for it to eat and etc. The most advanced species (us) must have also appeared with them on that day.

You seriously think that's how evolution works?

Mate every organism had a biological choice at 1 point

Reproduce or immortality

Most species choice Reproduction however a few chose forms of immortality

Aka 1 being the immortal jellyfish

lawani:
Ok

Mate the English are saps

Letting Islam invade their country and take over
Bringing back blasphemy laws after 100 years

Letting Pakistani rape gangs to molest little girls

Every country in Europe is kicking Muslims out but the UK they are holding the door open and saying come on in

lawani:
Well but there are many people like me on this forum. Thanks for the compliment though. I guess you are British?
If they appeared on the same day, that is not evolution

Nothing appeared on the same day but all life on earth originated from the sea from single celled organisms in a primordial soup

When something combined with something else and boom life

Makes more sense then a magic and invisible genie coward called yahweh that supposedly only revealed himself once in the history of humanity to 1 specific people at one time

Then decides to punish anyone to hell for eternity for not believing in him when those people all over the world never saw him

That's not a God that's a divine man child