lawani: Well but there are many people like me on this forum. Thanks for the compliment though. I guess you are British? If they appeared on the same day, that is not evolution
No I'm not British, bloody hell what gave you that idea?
I'm Norwegian I just talk like them from too long around the saps
lawani: Well, it makes sense for an ocean species to be older than a land species because there would have been no land at some point but my point is that an ecosystem needs all its species at once. They must have appeared on the same day.
I'm actually gobsmacked a Nigerian that's open to how evolutionary science actually works and isn't spouting bible creations crap
There are an estimated over 8.7 million species on Earth and there is no reason to believe anyone of them is older than any other. They all participate in the ecosystem together. They are of the same chronological age. That is the way the ecosystem was designed for it to work. For example, there have always been human beings and they were there as soon as there were cats, pigs, cattle, cockroaches, plants and etc. There was no time, that we had cats without mice for them to prey on or was there a time that there were cattle with no fodder for them to eat and etc. All species are at least equally specialized if we want to refrain from saying they are equally advanced. We can say only human beings are more advanced than others by having PhD potential. Therefore from whatever angle you want to look at it, speciation happened in an instant and not gradually by any means. It is the only way the ecosystem as we have it today can be possible.
The Iwa Akwa festival is one of the most cherished cultural celebrations of the Imo State axis of Igbo Land, Nigeria. It is a ceremony ceremony that initiates young boys into manhood.
It used to be more widespread in times past, encompassing more areas of Igbo Land. But today, it is still passionately celebrated every 3 years by some communities that have faithfully held the torch on behalf of Ndigbo.
It should be more widely introduced in a reformed mode. It is one of the fun aspects of Igbo culture that must not be allowed to fade away in the face of modernization.
The Iwa Akwa Festival in Ehime, Imo State
This festival is traditionally a two-day programme. The first day is the actual initiation day. On that day, previous celebrants come to 'show their seniority' to the new initiates. Pricedings start as early as dawn. Prospective initiates assemble at the Village Square. They come with buckets so that they'll go to the stream to fetch water for the seniors to drink.
Each initiate, no matter how highly placed in society, is expected to carry out their task without complaining; and the water they fetch must be 'very clean' if the initiate doesn't want to be sent back (wink) (Lol).
For if the seniors 'notice any dirt' in the water, the person who fetched that bucket would be asked to go back and fetch another one.
According to enthusiasts, one average, each candidate goes to the stream three times. This amounts to fetching three buckets of water.
And it doesn't end there. For, after this, the initiates will be made to clean the senior ones’ shoes - as a mark of respect. They must do this without complaint, irrespective of whom they are in society. I think this teaches service and humility.
Sometimes another variant of this task is done at the senior's request.
If this task is carried out successfully, the initiate is given a pass mark and allowed to go home. After the task is carried and no fault is found in an initiate's service, he is allowed to go home. That is when celebration starts.
In cases where a candidate misses out on the exercise, the whole group will match to his family house and seize valuables to compel him to come and perform his own rites. And when he returns, he will have to pay certain amount of money (as fine) to bail those items. When the rites are completed, the new members will match home barefooted, as a further sign of respect to the senior ones.
Note: senior have been known to ask initiates to kneel down under the sun for hours to confirm their patience and loyalty.
Meanwhile at the family homes of the initiates, relations will be busy preparing locally made foods are for visitors coming for the reception. The reception starts from 6.00pm. It lasts to about 1.00am and often beyond. There I'd a lot of merriment.
Day 2
Day 2, which is the big day, traditionally starts in the church. There, the initiates will hold wrappers out brand new wrappers which are blessed by the priest.
After that, each initiate will take his wrapper home, spread it in front of his compound. This is so that passersby might see and be know that someone in that family is being initiated into manhood.
No one is expected to touch the hung wrapper until the senior ones come at about 10.00am, bring it down themselves and tie it on the waist of the celebrant. After that, it is time to match to the Village Square. Each initiate is expected to match down with different musical artistes playing. There are displays of cultural dances, masquerade performances, and agu nkonko performances. Musical bands will also be retained at the homes to make the occasion lively.
The celebrants march to the monarch's palace, village square, as well as the market square with the musical artistes playing melodious tunes.
Note: The wrapper used is a symbol of coverage. Officially they (initiates) were naked children before but they are now clothed adults.
After this ceremony, the initiates will now be able to attend community meetings, pay dues and take part in the decision making process of the community.
After the march to the market square, another reception is held at each family compound, with so much dancing and merriment.
Special thanks to Susan Duru for information used in this content. Aju (Iwa Akwa) Festival of the Ugbo People
This festival is celebrated once in three years. It is the passage rite of male adolescents of Ugbo into manhood. The rites directly involve males of between the ages of 21 and 24 years - and above in the Igbo kingdom, which is situated in Awgu Local Government Area of Enugu State, Igbo Land, Nigeria.
Aju Festival is the Ugbo version of Iwa Akwa. Boys are initiated in to manhood. After that, they are free to make their contributions in the social cultural and political affairs of Ugbo Kingdom.
The Aju Festival is celebrated during the month of August every three years.
First comes the Nkata Ekwa rite. Nkata Ekwa involves the initiate sending a traditional invitation to his relations with some kegs of palm wine to inform them that he will be celebrating Iwa Ekwa.
After the NKATA EKWA, which every initiate of the new age grade would have celebrated in their individual home, it will be time for the Aju Festival proper.
Day 1 On Day 1 of the festival, all the UMU EKWA or initiates will gather in their individual village square to entertain the villagers and guests with IZO EKWA rites which will be done in groups.
After the IZO EKWA performance, each initiate comes out to the village square to dance and do some agana. During the dance and agana, friends, relations and well wishers present their gift of akwa money ('clothes money') and other things to the initiate.
After this, former initiates come and give their EGBE EKWA.
Ndi na enye Egbe Ekwa will come to the village square with their EGBE NTA (dane guns). They then release some traditional gunshots in the air and do some IZO EKWA in a show of strength.
After IZỌ EKWA from UMU EKWA, the rites for Day 1 come to an end.
Day 2
Day 2 of the Aju Festival is traditionally called MGBAHE ISHI. Mgbahe Ishi is a parade of the umu ekwa initiates. They will zọọ ekwa round the entire town, stopping by in each village square in Ugbo Kingdom to zọọ ekwa for them.
Prior to the parade which will be done at the same time, the Ugbo Okpala people fire a number of gun shots into the air to inform the rest of the villages in Ugbo that they are about to leave their village to meet their Oyibo relatives that live some distance away.
When the Ugbo Okpala arrive at Oyibo, Umu Ekwa initiates from Oyibo will usher them into the Oyibo village square, called OBODO IKE. This is usually accompanied by a 'show of force' by the Ugbo Okpala.
When the Ugbo Okpala eventually arrive the village square, another round of gunshots will be fired into the air. This is a signal to the other villages in Ugbo that they have arrived the Oyibo village square.
Interestingly, the villages of Ugbonabọ and Ngene Ugbo will also release their own gunshots as a response to Ugbo Okpala that they got their message.
Izọ Ekwa then starts in their villages.
The Ugbo Okpara carry out this rite and usher in Izo Akwa in all the villages of Ugbo. This is the story of Mgbahe Ishi, which happens on Day 2.
Day 3
On the third day, the entire Kingdom of Ugbo, friends, well wishers, and guests come together at the ORIO UGBO in Ugbonabọ for the final IZỌ EKWA which is called IGBA NA IZU.
Igba Na Izu is coupled with other entertainment for guests like:
Akunaeche enyi ndi Oyibo with their Adanma, Shaba, Police, Otenkwu and Owa Oji.
Not left out are Amala Ubo ndi Ugwu Ede, Okolobo ndi Ugbonabọ, Ogene umu Oyibo; and Akunaeche enyi from other villages.
Women's Njomu dance also provides entertainment, notably the Oyorima dance from Njomu Oyibo, and Opi Igwe from Njomu Ugbonabọ.
We close with this statement by Hon. Chiedozie Alex Ogbonnia, the Okeosisi of Ugbo Kingdom on the significance of the Aju (Iwa Akwa) festival to the people of Ugbo.
"Aju festival is one of the major cultural landmarks in Ugbo traditional calendar and a significant process in, not just Ugbo, but also in many Igbo societies.
"The festival is a chain of ceremonies performed every three years to mark the Rite of Passage for males from adolescents into manhood. The celebrants are males between the ages of 20 and 24 The rite of passage, called Iwa Akwa (clothing) is the most cherished festival in the life of every Ugbo indigene.
"Aju festival dates back to Ugbo history. Our ancestors conceived it as a classificatory process of grouping males into specific age-grades for smooth and effective communal administration.
"On the other hand, both seniority and age grade are seriously emphasized such that in Ugbo, old age goes with honour, dignity and gerontocratic rights.
"Iwa Akwa involves various social processes aimed at initiating the adolescents into manhood as well as bonding the members of the age-grade across the entire hamlets of Ugbo.
"The initiates are in the process, fully incorporated and enculturated into the core Ugbo essence and traditional cosmology. Apart from impacting the Ugbo consciousness in the initiated, the Iwa Akwa confers on the celebrant all the privileges, rights, dignity and profound sense of belonging in the Ugbo society.
"Iwa- Akwa also goes with some challenges. The celebrants are reminded as in Corinthians, 13 Vs 11: “As a child, I spoke, thought and understood as a child. Now, as a man, you must put away all the childish things’’. It is the occasion for the central message: Go ye into the world, tread cautiously as an Ugbo indigene with an achievement ambience.
"Put differently, any male who has not performed the Iwa Akwa ceremony is considered a minor in Ugbo. Going by the standards of Ugbo custom and tradition, such a minor may not only be allowed to marry but will not be entrusted with serious responsibilities in the community.
"Expectedly, every Ugbo parent looks forward with emotional excitement, to a day his/her son will perform the Iwa Akwa ceremony. It is considered a thing of immense joy for a parent to witness the rite of passage of his/her son.
"It is greeted with enormous fanfare, gunshots, feasts, dancing groups, etc. Because of the relevance attached to the Aju festival, all sons, daughters and friends of Ugbo both at home and in the Diaspora usually strive to participate in the festival.
Awww this is adorable So basically perverted old men basically train you be their submissive little bitches and break your spirit at the point your balls start to drop and puberty hits
Now all makes sense, the whole conquered people thing
Where is exactly is the manhood stuff?
All I read into this was yap, yap, yep igbo men are weak little saps that are willing to get on their knees to suck old men's cocks
This actually hilarious to be honest, now let me explain the pagan rite of manhood my asshole father put me through on my 13th birthday
Step 1) the crack of dawn, woken up with an ice cold bucket of water
Step 2) branded on the chest by white hot poker with the symbol of my clan
You shed 1 tear and you beaten mercilessly until you bleed
Step 3) dropped off in the Scandinavian wilderness with a bow, 13 arrows 1 for each year you've been alive, and a flint knife
And you are told to come back with a fresh wolf pelt or don't come back at all
But I guess yours seems like a pleasant and relaxing weekend
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Seriously give money to India?
Bleep that, how much do western countries give already? And how much actually gets used to for it's intended purposes? How much gets siphoned off to line greedy and corrupt men's pockets on the way?
And an Indian man on an african site doing the bleeding heart story bullshit? Most Nigerians can't fucking stand you people which is bizarre because they have a whole TV channel for your shit movies
Look people never trust an Indian man at all ever or Pakistani if you are an african woman
During the military I did rescue ops there, they trick african women into going promising high paying jobs then the moment they arrive
Steal their passport and sell them into prostitution and give them a fake debt to pay off
And remove an extra % off the debt for every african woman she helps trick into the cycle
They have whole prostration villages where they kidnap young girls of their nationality extremely young and sell them into prostitution
Force feeding them cattle fattening steroids because fatter women are desired there, but lowers the girls life expectancy to basically mid 40s
It's one of gang rape capitals of the world The only concern they have about children is how to Bleep them as young as possible
Samantha125: As a foreign national on this forum myself, I must say you made some valid points here...👌🏿👌🏿👌🏿
I salute you.
Oh, I know that min kjaere but as you can probably tell I'm off my nut and the men here do my swede in
I've got 100% respect for the women of Nigeria but 0 respect for men here
Seems male stupidity and the entitled attitude they have is an epidemic here and I'm truly scared it's contagious and to be honest you don't know what's possible
Look at Micheal Jackson for proof, he started off as a little black boy and grew into a white man, so I know my race is contagious
So you never know Nigerian numpty might be as well
RedboneSmith: Did you say all of this to the "uneducated idiot"'s face or did you run home to the safety of your keyboard like a little bitch?
🤣🤣 run home for my safety? Moosh you're having a laugh
I'm ex military
British royal Marines MOS 11B
I've been in the worst war zones in the world Been shot nearly 12 times Been stabbed nearly just as many Almost gutted by a helicopter propeller when it was shot down during landing
I've risked my life multiple times to save innocent women and children I don't know and will never meet to the point I got 2 knighthoods
1 from Norway my homelands and 1 from Sweden my family homeland
What the Bleep do you fools fight for?
Nothing mate
You will beg for a woman and you will beat women
You won't fight for one You won't fight for your kids You won't fight to improve your lives
You fight for nothing because as men you are nothing
RedboneSmith: Did you say all of this to the "uneducated idiot"'s face or did you run home to the safety of your keyboard like a little bitch?
Email me now!!
I'll give you my address you come with your 10 best men and I'll Bleep you all up on my own
Or are you going to be yellow bellied coward like the last ball less rapist stock I made this offer to
You all know I like in ikoyi You all know my name is sven åberg because it literally says my name is sven in my first topic and it has my last name as signature
I'm not that hard to find, a 6 foot 7 man covered in tattoos and piercings with natural bright orange hair
This just proves you can all run your mouth but not back it up
I went on a huge rant in the airport when the fucking dickhead called me uncultured something after asking about my wife, how we got married and if I did his fucking pointless Igbo traditions
I also got him fired from the driver company he works for
NO MAN OR WOMAN IN THIS COUNTRY RESPECTS THEIR TRADITIONS OR CULTURE OR ORIGINS
IF ANY OF YOU DID THEN IT WOULD LITERALLY BE IMPOSSIBLE TO GET BETWEEN A NIGERIAN WOMANS LEGS UNTIL THE DAY YOU MARRIED HER LIKE IT WAS IN THE DARK AGES WHEN ALL THIS CRAP STARTED
I'm tired of Nigerian men cherry picking history to suit your narrative and petty small minds
Playing the victims and acting all hard done by like the world owes a favour just because you exist acting all innocent like butter wouldn't melt
I just landed back in Nigeria to get back to my wife and some uneducated idiot blaming my whole race for the sins of a couple of nationalities
But it's time you foolish men acknowledge the fucking truth and stop pretending and lying about everything, ALL NIGERIAN TRIBES, ALL NIGERIANS WERE RAPING EACH OTHER, KILLING EACH OTHER, TAKING EACH OTHER AS SLAVES FOR CENTURIES BEFORE THE BRITISH GOT HERE
YOU GLORIFY YOUR ANCESTORS IN FAKE TRADITIONS THAT THEY WOULD BE INSULTED BY HOW YOU CHERRY PICK THEM TODAY NOT HONOURED AND THE BITTER TRUTH IS TO YOUR FUCKING ANCESTORS
NIGERIAN LIVES AND HUMAN LIVES MEANT VERY LITTLE
AND FYI STOP LYING ABOUT TRADITIONS AND TRADITIONAL WEDDINGS
NOTHING THAT A NIGERIAN FAMILY CALLS A TRADITIONAL WEDDING TODAY HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FUCKING TRADITIONS YOUR ANCESTORS STARTED
1) TRADITIONALLY A WOMAN NEVER GOT A CHOICE IN WHO SHE MARRIED OR WHEN, THE FATHER CHOSE A MAN WHOS FAMILY WOULD RAISE THEIR STATUS AND SHE WAS FORCED TO MARRY HIM
2) THE BRIDE PRICE WAS TO REFLECT THE EFFORT THE FATHER MADE IN RAISING HIS DAUGHTER
NOW YOU MEN MAKE NONE AND A WOMAN WITH A BODY COUNT OF 100 AND HER FATHER WILL STILL TRY TO RINSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FROM A GROOM AND HIS FAMILY
3) TRADITIONALLY IF A WOMAN HAD SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE OR WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED HER FAMILY WERE NOT ALLOWED A TRADITIONAL WEDDING AT ALL BECAUSE THEY DIDNT THEIR DAMN JOB
4) WHAT THE Bleep DO YOU THINK TRADITIONAL WEDDINGS WERE FOR TO YOUR ANCESTORS YOU FUCKING IDIOT MEN
THE BIGGER MORE POWERFUL TRIBE NEXT DOOR COULD WIPE YOU OUT OF THEY WANTED SO SELL THEM THE MOST BEAUTIFUL VIRGIN IN THE VILLAGE TO APPEASE THEM AND CALL IT A WEDDING
YOU GLORIFY ALL THIS SHIT BUT THE TRUTH IS YOU ARE CELEBRATING FAKE TRADITIONS TODAY BASED ON FEMALE SLAVERY SELLING YOUR DAUGHTERS AND CONTINUOUSLY BEING RAPED IN UNCONSENTUAL MARRIAGES
grow the Bleep up Stop lying to yourselves Stop lying to the world
Customary law doesn't fucking exist No family in this country has a say in the wedding process at all
No family decides what happens or when
The actual law in Nigeria is freedom to marry A human rights law that goes above anything a father wants or thinks or says
Freedom marry literally means a man and woman marry who they want, when they want and how they want
Your traditions mean nothing anymore or that law would not exist
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