₦airaland Forum

boynigeria:
okay, why is it that the Country havent defended the fact that, no single food comes into the country and majority of the citizens are in poverty when their sister country is economically stable
why will south korea and other Asian nations dont want anything to do with them except for china and Russia
why will their citizens flee to South Korea every with South Korea confirming this
im not saying usa dont sugarcoat things, North Korea is simply a nightmare
only thing u see them import is chemicals, iron, steel from Australia
why cut all ur citizens away from the rest of the world
their only padi is Russia

boynigeria:
dude, its far from western media, its what North Korea boasts of
wait, do u even read simple basic news at all cos if u do u will kn
check every single one of those things out urself
if u dont kn of any u ought to kn that he (Kim) executed his chief of army cos he dozed off
been following up on them since 2011

temitemi1:
We no go gree for them, we go only take back our presidency come 2019 from this bunch of evil pple! GEJ my HERO! FAYOSE my ROLE MODEL!!

Normality:
Akwa Ibom people full IPOB nau, go and join IPOB in Ikot Ekpene and Uyo, stop blabbing broh.

Trailblazer1:
Be afraid, oh ye sons of men from the west;
The wise men from the East are determined

samflexx:
The sun will rise again,i mean as usual from the east..yorubas are wonderful set of people just that they are cowards and moreover never disobays their masters,having them as a friend is like making snake a brother.

mannyU:
In 2015 Wtf!!!

Dis short puff puff is too full of himself! Can't. Wait for him 2 be put in his place..

America is watching!

Mogidi:
After the president of Niger here comes the president of Chad.
Why are West African Christian presidents not visiting the buko hari leader?

Meanwhile Al-sisi of Egypt is presently on his way to naija.
Next week its Somali president ba, the script is playing out nicely.

free2ryhme:
Does he have the financial capability to sustain this investment in a developed nation most especially in the UK. Where laws are obeyed irrespective of the personality involve

Whynotthetruth:
Inasmuch as I desire for all to stop this show of shame and sheathe their swords, I find it quite contradictory and unbelievable that Jonathan couldn't garner even mere 25% in bauchi state with Muazu, Yuguda, bala Mohammed... something isn't right there...some truths need to be unearthed there...

SeverusSnape:
Thank you my boss, In fact, I'll rather have kashamu as a role model than have the frogged eyed tooth smelly Lagos emperor as one. A killer can't be my role model.
Fayose is just my type of person; Very resilient and dogged, He's gonna be the Conqueror of Tinubu in southwest.

SeverusSnape:
Dying is a process...
So I've not entirely dismissed Fayose's claim about Buhari.
T'is only a matter of time.

Noneroone:
But we have a president elect who believes drug offenders should face firing squad while terrorists should be granted amnesty.

Noneroone:
But we have a president elect who believes drug offenders should face firing squad while terrorists should be granted amnesty.

SeverusSnape:
Cos I don't want death for drug dealers, Death for terrorists rather, Long jail term for Dopedealer

Truckpusher:
APC making series of 'I will fail' comments to have ready excuses to justify their imminent failure.




A barren woman will always blame a late marriage for her childlessness.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
Say no to "change"
We nid transformation
I pray and hope we won't regret voting out transformation

Na all dis kind threads change chanters dhe like.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
Say no to "change"
We nid transformation
I pray and hope we won't regret voting out transformation

rheether:
2moro, one yoruba tout go dey bash me for been an igbo girl. #SayNoToYorubaBoiFrnd.

NigerMan1:
I wanted to ignore you but I noticed people are liking and sharing this piece of scrap

What part of Cameroon and Benin republic was under Bini? What towns?
You confuse Bight of Benin for Benin republic. The bight is merely a coast area Benin traders and warrior protectors camped Mr man. No people to conquer there
then Cameron? Such a suprise, when did Bini overpower Efik and their kin to march into modern Cameroon?

Yoruba Bini salves? ? Which family compounds in Bini city have a history of being yoruba slaves? For example, there are many compounds in my town..even on my street we know as slave compounds and they all trace their origins. .mostly Egbira
surely if yoruba slaves ever existed in Benin city their descendants should still remain
Dahomey don't claim yoruba slaves it's Benin that wants to claim yoruba slaves cheesy grin
Fon Dahomey and Nupe people are the only ones known to capture Yoruba people not Bini nt even in the slightest manner have a yoruba been known to serve a Benin household or man handled and sold by one

The Olukumi by their version of history got to their present land when Benin were still in the Ogiso Era. ..meaning before Benin became an empire. So pls look for another lie

When the name "yoruba" came to use is of no relevance here. Try getting ur Edo people together and quit your yoruba hatred


macof - You often try to do better than your kinsmen who only bring abuse and insult to intellectual discourse.

Now I believe we are discussing HISTORY? I realize is only here in Nigeria that history based discourse is often replete with arrogance and chest beating. Often mired in lies and wanton coloration of truth. And this happens when Yoruba history is put on the front burner? Why? Because you guys have been injected with the mantra "don't challenge the source of our history"

Look History is not the same DOGMA. Here are the qualities and features of true history: (a) Must be often refreshed, (b) Always exhume the past, (c) Always challenged, (d)[/b]Must be RE-WRITTEN, [b](e) Continuous researching, (f) Must be REVISED.

However when any of these feature is missing or hated, then it is NOT history - but DOGMA.

So you Yorubas need to shake off your attitude of 'fighting off' academic and scholarly inputs that seem to put lie or expose holes in Yoruba story. Or run contrary to what was written few decades ago, or you're told.

Now let me reply your points one after the other...

You wrote: "What part of Cameroon and Benin republic was under Bini? What towns?
You confuse Bight of Benin for Benin republic. The bight is merely a coast area Benin traders and warrior protectors camped Mr man. No people to conquer there then Cameron? Such a suprise, when did Bini overpower Efik and their kin to march into modern Cameroon?

In the olden days, ruler-ship was not only by physical conquest or war as you Yorubas erroneously believe. Rulership encompasses war and conquest, control of trade route, slave trade selling, border dominance, interfacing with Europeans on behalf of others etc

There was a time during the Benin power, especially during the reign of Oba Esigie in the 14th Century. His power dominate and permeates most parts of present day Southern Nigeria - which extended to Lagos and Southern Cameroon. While that of Lagos was physical dominance, in which traditional king - Oba of Lagos - was established by Benin Oba and named the city EKO. Both still exist till day as a testement to the wide area old Benin Kingdom covered. The southern Cameroon was not physical.

You wrote: "You confuse Bight of Benin for Benin republic. The bight is merely a coast area Benin traders and warrior protectors camped Mr man. No people to conquer there then Cameron? Such a suprise, when did Bini overpower Efik and their kin to march into modern Cameroon?

No bro. I know my onions very well. I don't dabble in "I am superior than you kind of history" you Yorubas love to do. And why are you trying to downplay the IMPORTANCE of the "Bight of Benin" in history? Am sure if the Portuguese named the oceans that extend from Nigeria to the Gulf of Guinea the "Bight of Oyo" you Yorubas would have written volumes upon volumes to eulogize the 'greatness' of your forefathers.

First when the Portuguese first landed, the only DOMINANCE authority with the wildest control was the Oba of the Benin Empire. They then agreed an alliance with Benin Kingdom. That was the reason they named the Ocean "Bight of Benin".

The Portuguese then started business with Benin empire and Benin even sent an Ambassador to Portuguese. It was TWO NATIONS dealing with each other. During this period scholarships were given to Benin princes, who went to Universities in Europe with their slaves, which comprises Yoruba, Igbos, Igalas, Efiks, Ijaws etc. During this period, the trade and influence expansion into present day Benin republic began - with the collaboration of the Portuguese.

You wrote: "Yoruba Bini salves? ? Which family compounds in Bini city have a history of being yoruba slaves? For example, there are many compounds in my town..even on my street we know as slave compounds and they all trace their origins.

Bro again you're talking about History in a small prism you've been taught in Yorubaland. Things happened differently. And why should you be aghast over the word "Yoruba slaves?" Remember a greater of what is known as Yorubaland today where not there some hundreds of years ago? It was same in the 950 AD to 15th Century.

The old Benin did not DOMICILED their slaves ports in Benin City as you expected. So asking for slave compound is irrelevant my friend.The old Benin Kings ruled many towns and cities via designated warriors. The slaves therefore were not taken to Benin to dwell, rather they're ruled in their cities or new new cities, from the Oba Palace. And this system was applied over Lagos as well, in which a Benin Prince was made the Oba of Lagos and few Benin chiefs such as Obanikoro were appointed alongside some aboriginals as CHIEFS.

You wrote: "... surely if yoruba slaves ever existed in Benin city their descendants should still remain"

I hope I answer you above? Many were sold to Portuguese, many were sent abroad to earn degrees and returned. Bro we are talking of many many Centuries ago, so that the few that were serving the Benin Princes must have long became Benin/Edo.

You wrote: "Dahomey don't claim yoruba slaves it's Benin that wants to claim yoruba slaves cheesy grin"

History is not 'claiming' things. History is not a bragging rights. History is not about "out fathers were stronger than your fathers". Like I said above, the problem is that you Yorubas created your own history upon this foundation. You refused to allow history be told, freely discussed, continuously examined and always contested so that more FACTS will emerge consistently.

No macof - we Edos don't speak history to lay claim to being "superior". Even the Igbos has never contested the facts that Benin Kings used to have Igbos as slaves. Even the Onitsha people openly admitted they were Benin migrants. The late ZIK of Africa; Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe wrote about this in one of his books.

Unfortunately, you Yorubas allowed politicians to wound you together and named you all "Yoruba" for their selfish and greedy aggrandizement and control. Why do you refused to ask, individually:

"Where Did My Father Came From?"

If you do this, macof, many of you in Yorubaland will realize you probably originated from Igala, Dahomey, Nupe, Togo, Cameroon, part of today North Central. Even in the olden days, Hausa and Fulanis traders married and impregnated many Yoruba women in the present day Osun and Oyo states...

Today, the descendant of those children are now claiming Yoruba. Yes this is right - but is BETTER to investigate and examine your forefathers. Do this, at least, into the 7th to 10th generations before you.

Also remember that when Benin was ruling and established the Monarchy of Lagos, slaves were captured along the coast which comprises Yoruba, Igbos, Igalas, down to Lagos. So why are you fighting this historical fact? Again, there was an Igbo scholar who alluded to the fact that Old Benin Kings had Yoruba and Igbo slaves. Read it here on paragraph 8-9: http://www.newsexpressngr.com/news/detail.php?news=2547

You wrote: "Fon Dahomey and Nupe people are the only ones known to capture Yoruba people not Bini nt even in the slightest manner have a yoruba been known to serve a Benin household or man handled and sold by one

macof - please relax. This is history. You don't know all about history in one day. Everyday you realize what WAS. So you imagine Kings that ruled a vast area down to Lagos, with influence that extends to Benin republic did not captured Yoruba as slaves?

You wrote: "The Olukumi by their version of history got to their present land when Benin were still in the Ogiso Era. ..meaning before Benin became an empire. So pls look for another lie

No macof - remember am not Yoruba. You guys regard history as fisticuffs and "who can tell more lies". I know the history of Olukumi people very well, and their being there was DOCUMENTED. It was not during the Ogiso period. And let me tell you this: Ogiso dynasty was the same as the Oba dynasty: The only difference was that the Oba dynasty was more powerful and extended far and near.

So when you know the full history of the Olumuni you'll realize this fact. They're part of the Benin slaves!

You wrote: "When the name "yoruba" came to use is of no relevance here"

Why do you said so? So the history of how people from different tribes and nationality were later grouped as "Yoruba" should not be told?

You wrote: "Try getting ur Edo people together and quit your yoruba hatred"

And what EXACTLY do you mean by this statement? God forbid I hate people. Let me tell you a vital truth about human existence: "MUTUAL RESPECTS" is what guaranteed love and progress, even siblings. Not being coerced into a single culture as you have it in Yorubaland.

Burger01:
barcanista:
He is the man of the people. Honest Generals love him, even the corrupt IBB and Brutal Abacha respects him.
Integrity is value.
To All those TANs, Jonathanians, PDP apologists(Ngwakwe mogidi phockphockman brownlord descartes etc) Obasanjo have this to say to you
"All what PDP is saying of Buhari being fundamentalist is mere hot lies. They just fear let‘s go to jail “

Barcanista 2014

barcanista:
Buhari should live with the reality of democracy. There shall be no Decree 2. If he's unsatisfied, he should go to court

menesheh:
#Babaonechance TRENDING ON TWITTER NOW



He forgot and still never believe he is the president elect,

Just opening mouth like mumu, uneducated

RevDesmondJuju:
This upcoming season of Nigeria the Zoo go sweet die!

The producers handpicked the best comic act ever when they chose Mohammedu Buhari

Let the show begin

Truckpusher:
You're obviously a man of little mind to think that killing yourself over jest that is emanating from haters and detractors with no significant value to your life is a better way to be free.

My friend ,in a sane world people like you do not have access to the internet - You belong to the stone age.[b][/b]