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Islam for Muslims / Re: How Do U Realy Perform Ghusl Janabah? by firdaus4us: 1:23pm On Mar 13, 2009
You are all right.
The main thing is that water must reach all parts of your body.
Note:
1) The bathing is without soap
2) It is bid'a to use water to rub your body from your navel to the neck after the ghusl
3) there is no problem if u delay the washing of leg till after the ghusl or washing it alongside with the ablusion

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Friday Sermon Translated 001 by firdaus4us: 12:51pm On Mar 13, 2009
dgreatrock:

i thought you guys dont translat!??

You mean you dont know? You haven't seen the Translated Holy Quran even when surfing the net?
Islam for Muslims / Friday Sermon Translated 001 by firdaus4us: 12:32pm On Mar 13, 2009
Bismi Allaahi al-Rahmaan al-Raheem

Bismillaahi wa Salaatu wa Salaamu 'ala nabiyyinaa Muhammad, wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi 'ajma'een, amma ba'du

Translation of some excerpts of
Jummu'ah Khutbah from Haram Makkah

The Imam of the Holy Mosque in Makkah Al-Mukarrammah, Sheikh Abdur Rahman As-Sudais began his sermon by praising and thanking Almighty Allah for the countless favours He has bestowed on His servants. He then stated the word of monotheism: none has the right to be worshipped except Allah and Muhammed is the final Prophet and Messenger of Allah, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, his household and righteous companions.

The Imam advised himself and the worshippers to fear Almighty Allah as He should be feared because piety is the reason for ones happiness in this world and the home of the hereafter. The Sheikh then devoted his sermon to the topic of good treatment amongst muslims. He said it is well known that man is civilised by nature and cannot live in isolation, he needs to deal with others to achieve common interests. Accordingly, it is required of the muslim to deal with others in a good manner, to reflect the correct image of the religion to which he belongs. Whenever a nation works together to better the treatment within it's borders and with other nations, even with those whom it is at odds with, it can truly achieve glory. The Imam regretted the phenomenon of bad behaviour and mistreatment that is on the rise amongst muslims who are of weak faith. Many people treat others in an uncivilised manner which only reflects their ill-intentions and indifferent attitude towards others. This weakens the ties of love between people and adds strength to the evils of envy and hatred. It is therefore necessary that the efforts of the righteous reformers in a nation be directed to the issue of good behaviour amongst people. Allah the Almighty sent the Prophet Muhammed, peace be upon him, to mankind to perfect their morals. Islam has called for good treatment and true speech amongst people. Allah said in the Holy Quran:"Say to My servants that they should only say those things that are best." "And argue with them in ways that are best." "Repel evil with what is better." The Imam explained this is the behaviour which our religion has called us to, whenever we follow such a course then love will prevail amongst people. Allah said: "Repel evil with what is better, then will he between whom and thou was hatred become as if he were thy friend and intimate." Sheikh As-Sudais told the worshippers that the first step towards good treatment of others lies in the good treatment of ones own soul. He who trains himself on good behaviour will surely do good to others.

Regrettably, many are wronging their own souls, they are those who when they speak to others speak only falsehood. They are the backbiters who spread slander amongst people, and others who mistreat people to a level which threatens to spoil the social relations among the society. Such people have surely distanced themselves from the gracious teachings of Islam.

The first who has the right of good treatment from a muslim is His Lord Allah. For whom he should direct fully his prescribed duties and obey His rules at all times. Next in rank of good treatment is the Prophet Muhammed, peace be upon him, whom a muslim should love and follow. Then are those charged with authority amongst people whom muslims should obey, offer advice to and supplicate to Allah for their success. Then come the parents to whom Islam has granted considerable rights. Allah the Almighty said in the Holy Quran: "Thy Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him and that you be kind to parents." The Imam added that Islam has also called for the good treatment of wives, the Prophet Muhammed, peace be upon him, said, "The most perfect muslims are those of you who have the best morals and are best to their wives." Islam has called on muslims to bring up their children on the righteous path and not to break the ties of kinship because Allah has commanded us to be heedful of the wombs that bore us. Islam has broadened the sphere of good treatment to all muslims, Allah said, "The believers are but a single brotherhood." Sheikh As-Sudais added that Islam has also called for the good treatment of neighbours, "And do good to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are of kin, neighbours who are strangers and the companion by your side." The Imam advised muslims to treat their neighbours well, to be kind to others, to lower the wing of humility, not to break the ties with those who have broken away from them and to forgive those who have wronged them. He said another group who deserve good treatment is the scholars because of the sublime position Islam has given to them. They are the group charged with the explanation of the Shari'ah and the Sunnah. The Imam told the worshippers that the mission of Islam is unrivalled and accordingly we should make good treatment of others a priority in our Islamic nation first before others. In this age of globalisation our nation is in pressing need of breeding good treatment within its society. Previously, Islam spread in many parts of the world because of the good behaviour of muslims towards others in matters such as trade. The Imam advised muslims to treat others well to obtain happiness in this world and the hereafter. He recited the verse, "Nor can goodness and evil be equal, repel evil with what is better, then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as a friend and intimate and no-one will be granted such goodness except those who exercise patience and self-restraint, none but persons of the greatest good fortune."

Sheikh As-Sudais concluded his sermon by telling the worshippers that there are certain groups in society which need to be treated particularly well, such as the youth due to their sensitive age, women and orphans. "They ask thee concerning orphans, say, the best thing to do is what is for their good." "Those who unjustly eat up the property of orphans eat up fire into their bodies, they will soon be enduring a blazing fire." Islam has also called for the good treatment of widows, the needy, patients, the injured and disabled. The Imam drew the attention of the muslims to the good treatment of labourers, house-maids, indebtors who are in difficulty, those who have departed from their country for education, those who suffer oppression for their religion and those who have devoted themselves to serve other muslims.

May Allah bless and protect those who follow His guidance. Ameen
Islam for Muslims / Re: A Muslim Asks A Few Questions . . . by firdaus4us: 3:43pm On Mar 11, 2009
@davidlyan
You definitely lack HIKMAH. Your posts and replies ALWAYS full of abusives words. If you dont believe in Prophet Muhammad why cant you take good moral lessons\examples from Jesus?
Islam for Muslims / Re: A Muslim Asks A Few Questions . . . by firdaus4us: 1:02pm On Mar 10, 2009
Why cannot the Muslim males and females pray together, like other religions in a family unit?[/color][color=#990000]
Ans: Muslim do pray together in a family unit. Our prophet said: Pray as you see me pray and we follow that. In Bible it was stated that no woman should talk in the house of God, not even ask question but Christian disobey. Why?


Why cannot a man pray with his wife and daughters?
Ans:[/b]Man can definitely pray(worship) with his wife, daughters, friends and other Muslims

Why did Allah not have direct dialogues with our messenger of Islam, just like when God directly talked with the Prophets in the Bible?
[b]Ans:
Allah does, even he collected the five daily solat through that.
Point of correction: Is not all the prophet Bible claimed God talk to.


Why weren't there any witness to the monologues between Angel Gabriel and Muhammad, unlike Bible prophets, where there were so many witnesses?
Ans: Read the sirah, hadith etc you will better guided to the truth. When Angel Jubril was reciting the Quran to him, most of times the sohabas are usually there. In fact the last revealed verse of the Holy Quran was revealed during Hajj during the present of all Hujaj

Why did the Hadith say Jesus Christ would come again on final Judgment Day; but if Muhammad is the last prophet, why didn't Allah send him instead?
Ans: You Missed it! Which Hadith says that?
Well, Jesus will come towards the end time to do basically three things and then die like other human beings.
Why not Muhammad? Is like asking why not Musa, Ibrahim etc. They have died and will alone resurrect in the Judgment day.


Why did Muhammad supposedly, go to Jerusalem on a donkey to rise to Heaven, instead of going to Mecca – Islam's holiest, or Medina-Islam’s second holiest, and why are there no witnesses?
Ans: He started from Mecca to Jerusalem with the commanded of Allah. Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem housed the three holy Mosques.
Why not Medina: NO MEDINA MOSQUE as at that time.
Witness: You talked like the Kufaar of Meccan then, they asked the same question, they even confronted him and he gave them evidences to really convinced them. READ SIRAH

Why cannot Muslims marry in a mosque, like others, blessed in their sacred places?
Ans: Pls give me any QURANIC/HADITH QUATATION that forbid Muslim from doing that.

Why are Muslims always so afraid to ask questions of their quran?
What are they scared of? why are they so quick to threaten others who ask, delete threads and harrass those who innocently wish to be informed?

Ans: AFRAID, pls your evidence!

Why can i not personally know Allah? Why cannot i talk directly to him? why can i only see his back in jaanat? does he not love me?
Ans: Know Allah?: You know Him by His Signs, wonders. Wa fi Anfusikum, afala tubsiruun?Talk to Him?: Through prayer, infact either you belief in Him or not, He answers your prayers, so generous!!
Seing Him?: Who are you to see Him? You talk like Children of Isreal. They asked Prophet Musa
[2:55] O Moses! We will not believe in thee till we see Allah plainly; and even while ye gazed the lightning seized you.

[2:56]
Then We revived you after your extinction, that ye might give thanks.

No body has ever seen Allah(face to face), not even Jesus, Ibrahim etc infact NO ANGEL has ever seen HIM. Then who are you?
Ok pls tell me: When last do you see your GOD? Have you ever seen JESUS?

May Allah guide you aright
Religion / Re: God Is Above Jesus Christ! by firdaus4us: 4:41pm On May 10, 2007
@stimulus,
WE in the Holy Quran mean ALLAH AND ALLAH ALONE. Any contrary view? Then, your evidence.

@thesilent1
Hmmmmmmm
Religion / Re: Many More Contradictions In The Qur'an by firdaus4us: 4:28pm On May 10, 2007
@nossycheek
Those verses are lost? Then, where did you get them?
Instead of you hanging yourself in shame, you still continue to post without evidence.

Let start this way:

Different account of Moses Childhood
S. 20:38-40

20.38] When We revealed to your mother what was revealed;
[20.39] Saying: Put him into a chest, then cast it down into the river, then the river shall throw him on the shore; there shall take him up one who is an enemy to Me and enemy to him, and I cast down upon you love from Me, and that you might be brought up before My eyes;
[20.40] When your sister went and said: Shall I direct you to one who will take charge of him? So We brought you back to your mother, that her eye might be cooled and she should not grieve and you killed a man, then We delivered you from the grief, and We tried you with (a severe) trying. Then you stayed for years among the people of Madyan; then you came hither as ordained, O Musa

MOSES'S STORY

[7.11] And certainly We created you, then We fashioned you, then We said to the angels: Make obeisance to Adam. So they did obeisance except Iblis; he was not of those who did obeisance.
[7.12] He said: What hindered you so that you did not make obeisance when I commanded you? He said: I am better than he: Thou hast created me of fire, while him Thou didst create of dust.
[7.13] He said: Then get forth from this (state), for it does not befit you to behave proudly therein. Go forth, therefore, surely you are of the abject ones

Who is Q20:38-40 talking about? Similarly, Who is Q7:11-13 talking about? undecided lipsrsealed
Religion / Re: Jesus Is The Son Of: by firdaus4us: 3:56pm On May 10, 2007
Mosetra:

Even if we try to educate you, you would not understand.
Educate me first before you talk of understanding

Mosetra:
Your Quaran mentions Jesus Christ as Anabi Isa, whose son does it say he is
In the Holy Quran, Jesus is son of Maryam, no more! Can you dispute that?

Mosetra:
You are free to your belief
You're also

Mosetra:
why bring up stupid, senseless questions that only tell how ignorant you are
Then, to know about the origin of Jesus is senseless. To tell us Jesus is the son of man, God, etc is not sensible at all!

Mosetra:
You are entitled to your beliefs but learn to respect other people's
Hope you're talking to your Christian 's rubbish posters. Truly, they need to respect other people's view.

@babyosisi
Then Jesus is the son of:
Man+God-Mary, because she is not mentioned in those verses at all. Any comment?

@thesilent1
Jesus is the son of Mary? While I love to hear that I still need the evidence from your bible.

But please my dear, don't forget that " any person born of wowan is      !

@stimulus
You further exposed yourself to the world. Surely, you are a distraught man
The answer to a question with four answers is still narrow? Well, to other christians, definately not . You are free to read their answers and comments above. Think deeply next time before you answer question
Religion / Re: Jesus Is The Son Of: by firdaus4us: 3:07pm On May 10, 2007
@stimulus
Do you mean this question is too narrow?
Let me expand it a little!

Jesus is the son of
A)Man
A)Mary
B)God
C)All of the above
D)None of the Above

Also, what did Quran tell you           ?Pls fill the gap!

@thesilent1
There is no argument whatsoever about the origin of Adam.
Adam has neither father nor Mother.  Any contrary opinion?

@olutomiwa
Don't be disturbed? Do you mean calling Jesus son of                IS ABSOLUTE NONSENSE?
Religion / Jesus Is The Son Of: by firdaus4us: 2:08pm On May 10, 2007
Jesus is the son of
A)Mary
B)God
C)Mary & God
D)None of the Above
Religion / Re: Do U Prefer To Be Servant Of God by firdaus4us: 1:55pm On May 10, 2007
@stimulus.
Definately mr stimulus, the question is very difficult for you to answer.
Religion / Re: God Is Above Jesus Christ! by firdaus4us: 1:30pm On May 10, 2007
@stimulus
WE as used in the Quran means ALLAH.  
Don't divert our attention away from the main topic of the post, God Is Above Jesus Christ. Create another topic for your question.

@christian

Please explain this verses:
John 14 vs 8-9
8: Philip said to him, "Lord, show us the Father, and we shall be satisfied."
9: Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you do not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, `Show us the Father'?

vis-s-vis:

john 4 vs 37
And the Father who sent me has himself borne witness to me. His voice you have never heard, his form you have never seen;
Religion / The Quran On Human Embryonic Development by firdaus4us: 12:18pm On May 10, 2007
In the Holy Quran, God speaks about the stages of man’s embryonic development:

We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance), (Quran, 23:12-14)

Literally, the Arabic word alaqah has three meanings: (1) leech, (2) suspended thing, and (3) blood clot.
In comparing a leech to an embryo in the alaqah stage, we find similarity between the two as we can see in figure 1. Also, the embryo at this stage obtains nourishment from the blood of the mother, similar to the leech, which feeds on the blood of others.


Figure 1: Drawings illustrating the similarities in appearance between a leech and a human embryo at the alaqah stage. (Leech drawing from Human Development as Described in the Quran and Sunnah, Moore and others, p. 37, modified from Integrated Principles of Zoology, Hickman and others. Embryo drawing from The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 73.)
The second meaning of the word alaqah is “suspended thing.” This is what we can see in figures 2 and 3, the suspension of the embryo, during the alaqah stage, in the womb of the mother.
Figure 2: We can see in this diagram the suspension of an embryo during the alaqah stage in the womb (uterus) of the mother. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 66.)


Figure 3: In this photomicrograph, we can see the suspension of an embryo (marked B) during the alaqah stage (about 15 days old) in the womb of the mother. The actual size of the embryo is about 0.6 mm. (The Developing Human, Moore, 3rd ed., p. 66, from Histology, Leeson and Leeson.)

The third meaning of the word alaqah is “blood clot.” We find that the external appearance of the embryo and its sacs during the alaqah stage is similar to that of a blood clot. This is due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo during this stage (see figure 4). Also during this stage, the blood in the embryo does not circulate until the end of the third week. Thus, the embryo at this stage is like a clot of blood.
Figure 4: Diagram of the primitive cardiovascular system in an embryo during the alaqah stage. The external appearance of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo. (The Developing Human, Moore, 5th ed., p. 65.)

So the three meanings of the word alaqah correspond accurately to the descriptions of the embryo at the alaqah stage.
The next stage mentioned in the verse is the mudghah stage. The Arabic word mudghah means “chewed substance.” If one were to take a piece of gum and chew it in his or her mouth and then compare it with an embryo at the mudghah stage, we would conclude that the embryo at the mudghah stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance. This is because of the somites at the back of the embryo that “somewhat resemble teethmarks in a chewed substance.” (see figures 5 and 6).
Figure 5: Photograph of an embryo at the mudghah stage (28 days old). The embryo at this stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance, because the somites at the back of the embryo somewhat resemble teeth marks in a chewed substance. The actual size of the embryo is 4 mm. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 82, from Professor Hideo Nishimura, Kyoto University, Kyoto, Japan.)

Figure 6: When comparing the appearance of an embryo at the mudghah stage with a piece of gum that has been chewed, we find similarity between the two.
A) Drawing of an embryo at the mudghah stage. We can see here the somites at the back of the embryo that look like teeth marks. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 79.)
B) Photograph of a piece of gum that has been chewed.

How could Muhammad have possibly known all this 1400 years ago, when scientists have only recently discovered this using advanced equipment and powerful microscopes which did not exist at that time? Hamm and Leeuwenhoek were the first scientists to observe human sperm cells (spermatozoa) using an improved microscope in 1677 (more than 1000 years after Muhammad ). They mistakenly thought that the sperm cell contained a miniature preformed human being that grew when it was deposited in the female genital tract.
Professor Emeritus Keith L. Moore is one of the world’s most prominent scientists in the fields of anatomy and embryology and is the author of the book entitled The Developing Human, which has been translated into eight languages. This book is a scientific reference work and was chosen by a special committee in the United States as the best book authored by one person. Dr. Keith Moore is Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Cell Biology at the University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada. There, he was Associate Dean of Basic Sciences at the Faculty of Medicine and for 8 years was the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy. In 1984, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. He has directed many international associations, such as the Canadian and American Association of Anatomists and the Council of the Union of Biological Sciences.
In 1981, during the Seventh Medical Conference in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, Professor Moore said: “It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Quran about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God.”
Consequently, Professor Moore was asked the following question: “Does this mean that you believe that the Quran is the word of God?” He replied: “I find no difficulty in accepting this.”
During one conference, Professor Moore stated: “, Because the staging of human embryos is complex, owing to the continuous process of change during development, it is proposed that a new system of classification could be developed using the terms mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah (what Muhammad said, did, or approved of). The proposed system is simple, comprehensive, and conforms with present embryological knowledge. The intensive studies of the Quran and hadeeth (reliably transmitted reports by the Prophet Muhammad’s companions of what he said, did, or approved of) in the last four years have revealed a system for classifying human embryos that is amazing since it was recorded in the seventh century A.D. Although Aristotle, the founder of the science of embryology, realized that chick embryos developed in stages from his studies of hen’s eggs in the fourth century B.C., he did not give any details about these stages. As far as it is known from the history of embryology, little was known about the staging and classification of human embryos until the twentieth century. For this reason, the descriptions of the human embryo in the Quran cannot be based on scientific knowledge in the seventh century. The only reasonable conclusion is: these descriptions were revealed to Muhammad from God. He could not have known such details because he was an illiterate man with absolutely no scientific training.”

Religion / Re: 11 More Contradictions by firdaus4us: 12:08pm On May 10, 2007
@nossycheek,
nossycheek:

Embryonic Sex Determination
Those verses also did not tell us who bears the pregnancy. Is that another ERROR?
Do you want Quran to tell you everything? Don't be lazy!
However, for Quran not to say anyting about ovum in those verses does not mean Quran denies it. Or can you give us a verse in the Holy Quran to negates it?

Check below the statement testimony below:

Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson is the Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology, and Professor of Molecular and Human Genetics at the Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA.  Formerly, he was Professor of Ob-Gyn and the Chairman of the Department of Ob-Gyn at the University of Tennessee, Memphis, Tennessee, USA.  He was also the President of the American Fertility Society.  He has received many awards, including the Association of Professors of Obstetrics and Gynecology Public Recognition Award in 1992.  Professor Simpson studied the following two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad :
{In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother’s womb by forty days, }1

{If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones, }2
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He studied these two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad  extensively, noting that the first forty days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis.  He was particularly impressed by the absolute precision and accuracy of those sayings of the Prophet Muhammad .  Then, during one conference, he gave the following opinion:

[color=#006600]“So that the two hadeeths (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad ) that have been noted provide us with a specific time table for the main embryological development before forty days.  Again, the point has been made, I think, repeatedly by other speakers this morning: these hadeeths could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available [at] the time of their writing . . . . It follows, I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God.”


Without doubt, this professor is in better position to challenge the Quranic acount on this topic.

QUESTION: Please tell us what the Bible says about Embryonic Sex Determination

nossycheek:

Width of the Garden
What is/are the contradiction(s)?

More to come!
Religion / Re: Many More Contradictions In The Qur'an by firdaus4us: 11:25am On May 10, 2007
@nossycheek,
Your job is yet to be completed. We need the meaning(translations) of those verses!
Religion / Re: Do U Prefer To Be Servant Of God by firdaus4us: 11:18am On May 10, 2007
@babyosisi, stimulus, davidylan,
Please don't dodge my question! Are you servants of God?.

@stimulus
Check that thread and upgrade your vocabulary.

@babs787
Wa alaykum salam warahmotulahi wabarakatuhu.
Religion / Re: God Is Above Jesus Christ! by firdaus4us: 11:06am On May 10, 2007
@stimulus
stimulus:
Meanwhile, firdaus4us, whenever you return from exile, the questions will be there. Even if I'm away for a few days or weeks, you will certainly find me waiting for you!
.Well, from their utterances we shall know them.

Back to your question about WE as used in the Holy Quran. The WE Allah used in the Holy Quran is not in anyway means that Allah is more than one. Next time before you post such a question make sure you contact advance dictionary. Notwitstanding, let me help you with some definitions of WE.

1. nominative pl. of I. 
2. (used to denote oneself and another or others): We have two children. In this block we all own our own houses. 
3. (used to denote people in general): the marvels of science that we take for granted. 
4. (used to indicate a particular profession, nationality, political party, etc., that includes the speaker or writer): We in the medical profession have moral responsibilities. 
5. Also called the royal we. (used by a sovereign, or by other high officials and dignitaries, in place of I in formal speech): We do not wear this crown without humility. 
6. Also called the editorial we. (used by editors, writers, etc., to avoid the too personal or specific I or to represent a collective viewpoint): As for this column, we will have nothing to do with shady politicians. 
7. you (used familiarly, often with mild condescension or sarcasm, as in addressing a child, a patient, etc.): We know that's naughty, don't we? It's time we took our medicine. 
8. (used in the predicate following a copulative verb): It is we who should thank you. 
9. (used in apposition with a noun, esp. for emphasis): We Americans are a sturdy lot. 

[b]source:[/b]Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
Religion / Re: God Is Above Jesus Christ! by firdaus4us: 1:13pm On May 08, 2007
Stimulus if you think Jesus is God, then please give explaination to the verses below:

1) I do nothing of myself  (From the NIV Bible, John 8:28)"

2) "My Father (GOD) is greater than I  (From the NIV Bible, John 14:28)"

3) "Father (GOD), into thy hands I commend my spirit  (From the NIV Bible, Luke 23:46)"

4) "And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.  (From the NIV Bible, Mark 10:18)"

5) "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.  (From the   NIV Bible, Matthew 24:36)"

To me the above verses affirm that Jesus is not, at all, in the same level with the Creator of the Universe

Addendum:

1)If Jesus is/was God, then when he died for atleast three days who was in control of the entire creation during that period?

2) Who resurrected him?
Religion / Re: Do U Prefer To Be Servant Of God by firdaus4us: 11:07am On May 08, 2007
ok! Pilgrim are you a servant of God or not?
Religion / Do U Prefer To Be Servant Of God by firdaus4us: 6:34pm On May 05, 2007
What is your view? Do you prefer to be called servant of God?
Religion / Re: Would You Rather Be by firdaus4us: 5:41pm On May 05, 2007
Hell vs Paradise.
May your god answer your prayer by making you the king of the inmate of his Hell.
I would rather be a servant of king than the king of the jailbirds. I know you, omega25red, may prefer to be the king of the lunatic than the slave of the sane! Don't you?

Are you Servant of God?

According to Romans 6:16-18, 22:
"Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? But God be thanked, that ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness . . . But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life."

Note: If you say no, then you are a servant of Devil.
Religion / Confirmation of My Religion. What about yours? by firdaus4us: 4:34pm On May 04, 2007
I will like to illustrate the confidence of Beloved Prophet Muhammad with series of examples.

1) The Prophet  had an uncle by the name of Abu Lahab. This man hated Islam to such an extent that he used to follow the Prophet  around in order to discredit him. However, about ten years before Abu Lahab died, a short chapter in the Quran was revealed about him. It distinctly stated that he would go to Hell.

In other words, it affirmed that he would never become a Muslim and would therefore be condemned forever. For ten years all Abu Lahab had to do was to say: "I heard that it has been revealed to Muhammad that I will never change - that I will never become a Muslim and will enter the Hellfire. Well I want to become a Muslim now. How do you like that? What do you think of your divine revelation now?" But he never did that. And yet, that is exactly the kind of behavior one would have expected from him since he always sought to contradict Islam.

­2) Another example of the confidence which Muhammad  had in his own Prophethood and consequently in the divine protection of himself and his message is when he left Makkah and hid in a cave with Abu Bakr  during their emigration to Madeenah. The two clearly saw people coming to kill them, and Abu Bakr  was afraid. Certainly, if Muhammad  was a liar, a forger and one who was trying to fool the people into believing that he was a prophet, one would have expected him to say in such a circumstance to his friend: "Hey, Abu Bakr, see if you can find a back way out of this cave." Or "Squat down in that corner over there and keep quiet." Yet, in fact, what he  said to Abu Bakr  clearly illustrated his confidence. He  told him: "What do you think of those two with whom the Third is Allaah. "

3)  Female Bee

In the 16th chapter, the Quran mentions that the female bee leaves its home to gather food (16:68-69). Now, a person might guess on that, saying: "The bee that you see flying around - it could be male, or it could be female. I think I will guess female." Certainly, he has a one in two chance of being right. So it happens that the Quran is right. But it also happens that this was not what most people believed at the time when the Quran was revealed. Can you tell the difference between a male and a female bee? Well, it takes a specialist to do that, but it has been discovered that the male bee never leaves his home to gather food. However, in Shakespeare's play, Henry the Fourth, some of the characters discuss bees and mention that the bees are soldiers and have a king. That is what people thought in Shakespeare's time - that the bees that one sees flying around are male bees and that they go home and answer to a king. However, that is not true at all. The fact is that they are females, and they answer to a queen. Yet it took modern scientific investigations in the last 300 years to discover that this is the case.

4)  Historical miraculousness

An engineer at the University of Toronto who was interested in psychology and who had read something on it, conducted, researched and wrote a thesis on Efficiency of Group Discussions. The purpose of his research was to find out how much people accomplish when they get together to talk in groups of two, three, ten, etc. The graph of his findings: people accomplish most when they talk in groups of two. Of course, this discovery was entirely beyond his expectations, but it is very old advice given in the Quran: Additionally, the 89th chapter of the Quran  mentions a certain city by the name of Iram (a city of pillars), which was not known in ancient history and which was non-existent as far as historians were concerned. However, the December 1978 edition of National Geographic introduced interesting information which mentioned that in 1973, the city of Elba was excavated in Syria. The city was discovered to be 43 centuries old, but that is not the most amazing part. Researchers found in the library of Elba a record of all of the cities with which Elba had done business. Believe or not, there on the list was the name of the city of Iram. The people of Elba had done business with the people of Iram! Allaah Says (what means): “Say, “I only advise you of one [thing] - that you stand for Allaah, [seeking truth] in pairs and individually, and then give thought." There is not in your companion any madness. He is only a warner to you before a severe punishment.” [Quran 34:46]

5) The enmity of the Jews

Allaah states in the Quran that the Christians will always treat the Muslims better than the Jews will treat the Muslims. Indeed, the full impact of such a statement can only be felt after careful consideration of the real meaning of such a verse. It is true that many Christians and many Jews have become Muslims, but as a whole, the Jewish community is to be viewed as an avid enemy of Islam. Additionally, very few people realize what such an open declaration in the Quran invites. In essence, it is an easy chance for the Jews to prove that the Quran is false - that it is not a divine revelation. All they have to do is to organize themselves, treat the Muslims nicely for a few years and then say: "Now what does your holy book say about who are your best friends in the world - the Jews or the Christians? Look what we Jews have done for you!" That is all they have to do to disprove the Quran's authenticity, yet they have not done it in 1400 years. But, as always, the offer still stands open!

6) Origin of the Universe

Allaah Says, (what means): “Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?” [Quran 21:30] Ironically, this very information is exactly what they awarded the 1973 Noble Prize for - to a couple of unbelievers. The Quran reveals the origin of the universe - how it began from one piece - and mankind continues to verify this revelation, even up to now.

Additionally, the fact that all life originated from water would not have been an easy thing to convince people of fourteen centuries ago. Indeed, if 1400 years ago you had stood in the desert and told someone: "All of this, you see (pointing to yourself), is made up of mostly water," no one would have believed you. Proof of that was not available until the invention of the microscope. They had to wait to find out that cytoplasm, the basic substance of the cell, is made-up of 80% water. Nonetheless, the evidence did come, and once again the Quran stood the test of time. In reference to the falsification tests mentioned earlier, it is interesting to note that they, too, relate to both the past and the present. Some of them were used as illustrations of Allaah's Omnipotence and Knowledge, while others continue to stand as challenges to the present day.

Now, if you believe  that prophet Muhammad is fooling the people, then I need to ask you to tell me where he got all these facts and many more, in sha Allah to come? In fact, such a frame of mind is not characteristic of a liar or a forger at all.

I will tell you later, in sha Allah, about Keith Moore findings.
Religion / Re: Language Of Jesus by firdaus4us: 4:08pm On Sep 30, 2006
@mischievous haviliar,
You are like a mad man that thinks he's always right. You don't always border to read the post posted by any of your supporters of the same doctrine before you attack the personality of anybody that wrote rejoinder to it.
Do you ever read the post of babycrisis at all, before my rejoinder? 

@babyosisi
You should note that haviliar is a devil that are there to divert you from pondering over the verses I posted from bible to educate you. Check his 64th-72nd post, though the samething(cut ans paste everywhere) on this forum(religious), it was full of lies. If it was a Muslim that wrote that I trust you, you would have come down on him heavily but may be because a was a christain, you decided to hold the stick of injustice. That's not fair? 

You can never consider your posts, davislain and 4malik, that atleast, literally contain some elements of truth. You just need to be educated on the actual meaning and circumstances surrounding those things. 

Sincerely, I was a pastor not ordinary christian(church goer) before Allah show me the way, the true light. Alhamdulillahi, I have seen the true light, Al-Islam. I pray to Almighty Allah to guide your heart to the path of felicity. AMIN

@Backslider
Backslider:


You like attacking the personality of people that is not Right my brother.

Pls read her post first, the first one on this current page, just for you to know that I just tried to respond to her invectives on me.
Backslider:


Anyway the verses that you Quote are very self explanatory.

The Epistle was Written to correct fornication in the Corinthian church That is the context at which the Letter was written by the inspirition of The holy Ghost.

1 Corinthians 7:1
"Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry

The people had a problem with Immorality.


If that's true, then could you please explain the ff verses, with ref to the bold words
1 Corinthians 7: 1-2:
1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
If I will not fornicate, then I am encourage to remain unmarried. Is that not?

1 Corinthians 7:8-9:

7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I

Was paul married during is life time?
Religion / Re: Language Of Jesus by firdaus4us: 6:36pm On Sep 28, 2006
babyosisi:

Getting a husband is not the ultimate.
A Christian woman is whole and does not need a man to be validated.

                           That is PAUL'S VIEW my dear
In the Bible we find that Paul does not really favor marriage, he even went as far as to say do not marry:

1 Corinthians 7:1
"Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry

Also

1 Corinthians 7:8-9:

7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I

Paul would love it if all men were single like him, he also told women to remain unmarried. What makes this all the more interesting is that these commands by Paul actually fit the description of the false prophet:

"Now the Spirit explicitly says that in the later times some will desert the faith and occupy themselves with deceiving spirits and demonic teachings, influenced by the hypocrisy of liars whose consciences are seared. They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth." 1 Timothy 4:1-3

However so this article is not about whether Paul was a false prophet or not (which he was). The main point of this article is to see what Paul though of marriage, and the reasons to why he would allow it.

babyosisi:
You cannot understand that,Christianity is not all sex like Islam.
                                      You contradicted Mr PAUL?
As we shall shortly see, Paul saw marriage as a means to simply have sex, that’s all, to fulfill your sexual desires, he did not view marriage as something to fall in love with a spouse and have a loving family. To him to get married was just to go and have sex:

1 Corinthians 7: 1-2:

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

Another translation reads:

"Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: ‘It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.’ But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, EACH MAN SHOULD HAVE HIS OWN WIFE AND EACH WOMAN HER OWN HUSBAND

So note, Paul simply tells you to marry to have sex, to fulfill your sexual desires so you don’t commit fornication.
Hope you understood?

"To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am. But if they cannot exercise self-control, THEY SHOULD MARRY. For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion." 1 Corinthians 7:8-9

So it is better to get married rather be filled with sexual passion, so you should go get married to fulfill this sexual passion.

So as anyone can see, Paul tells you to get married so you can simply have sex, that’s all.
Crime / You Are Free To Rape Virgin Girls Says The Bible by firdaus4us: 6:25pm On Sep 28, 2006
Christians follow the laws of the Bible only. All of their religious sources, laws and verdicts come straight from the Bible (if we were to have true Christian countries where Church would rule over the State), except for Roman Catholics where they have other Volumes written by Church Fathers and Popes. But most Christians in the world have no religious resources other than the Bible.Therefore, let us look at what the Bible says regarding this issue:

Rape is a big crime that could actually take the woman's or the victim's life away.
Let us examine how Christianity deals with the rapist: "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 22:28)"

Although this Verse from the Bible only talks about virgins, but its the only verse in the entire Bible that talks about raping single women. Not to be biased or anything, but the Bible seems to have quite weird things in it that are quite irrational and quite ridiculous.

Deuteronomy 22:28 forces the raped woman to marry her rapist. My question to the writers of the Bible is why in the world would any raped female victim want to be in the same town, not the same bedroom !! with her rapist?.

Also, the Bible seems to promote raping of single women: "But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 22:25)"

This is quite an interesting verse. We see in Deuteronomy 22:28 that if a man rapes a single woman then she will be forced to be his wife, while if a man rapes a married woman or a woman who is spoken for, in Deuteronomy 22:25, then he shall be put to death.

There is absolutely no punishment for the rapist of a single woman in the Bible. For those Christians who think that they don't have to follow the Old Testament, well my answer to them is this:

The Old Testament prohibits for the brother to marry his sister, or for the son to marry his mother. The New Testament doesn't even talk about it. Does that mean that a Christian brother can marry his sister? or a Christian son can marry his mother? Jesus himself anyway ordered his followers to follow the Old Testament, so their argument is totally invalid.

Question to Jews and Christians: How is the Bible supposed to prevent some loser from stalking the most beautiful single woman in town, rape her, and then sue her in court to become his wife so he can continue raping her for the rest of her life?!
Religion / Re: Language Of Jesus by firdaus4us: 5:54pm On Sep 28, 2006
babyosisi:

That said, I have a  man whose shoes you are not worthy to unlace.got it?

Are u sure? If it was the holy demon/spirit/ghost that told u that, then s/he is deceiving u.
Religion / Re: .::Ramadan Kareem::. The Moon Has Been Sighted! by firdaus4us: 5:43pm On Sep 28, 2006
May Allah be with us

Allahumah inakal 'afuwu tuhibul 'afwa fa'afu ana.
Religion / Re: Language Of Jesus by firdaus4us: 12:06pm On Sep 27, 2006
@babycrisi
If you are unable to get husband pls just count me out. But I can get one for u. Hmm, can you marry holy ghost? Oh, sorry she is a woman.

@4get_me

If this is a way of advertizing what you're suffering from in your family, help is only a prayer away - call on the Name of Jesus Christ, and you will see healing

I can now see what prompted u to christianity. Have they (your family) being heal now?
Say these to cast the evil spelt on u away:
Audhubi katmatillahi attamoot min shari mon khalaqa.

You don't need to say:
I kick, I command u, , etc.

Just say the prayer gently and it shall be well with you all.
Religion / Re: Christians Confess by firdaus4us: 11:45am On Sep 27, 2006
4get_me
Just prove me wrong that holy ghost didn't tell me that.

@Havila
If a secondary school student can fault you and your post like that, then you had better leave this forum and go back to primary school to learn with the kids like you.

One of your problems is that you post topic/response without thinking or doing thorough research on it


I will continue to throw the word of the living God at you until it breaks you!!!
You mean the word of your god that die atleast for three days? Alhamdullilahi, all the Quranic verses you qouted are the word of Allah that never dies.
Religion / Re: Christians And Moslems Can Be Friends! by firdaus4us: 11:18am On Sep 27, 2006
From all the above evidence, it is obvious that Islam didn't invent the head cover, but Islam endorsed it. The Quran urges the believing men and women to lower their gaze and guard their modesty and then urges the believing women to extend their head covers to cover the neck and the bosom "Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty, And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms, " (24:30,31).

The Quran is quite clear that the veil is essential for modesty, but why is modesty important? The Quran is still clear:
"O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their bodies (when abroad) so that they should be known and not molested" (33:59).
This is the whole point, modesty is prescribed to protect women from molestation or simply, modesty is protection.
Thus, the only purpose of the veil in Islam is protection. The Islamic veil, unlike the veil of the Christian tradition, is not a sign of man's authority over woman nor is it a sign of woman's subjection to man. The Islamic veil, unlike the veil in the Jewish tradition, is not a sign of luxury and distinction of some noble married women.The Islamic veil is only a sign of modesty with the sole purpose of protecting women, all women. The Islamic philosophy is that it is always better safe than sorry.
In fact, the Quran is so concerned with protecting women's bodies and women's reputation that a man who dares to falsely accuse a woman of unchastity will be severely punished,"And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations)- Flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors"(24:4).

Compare this strict Quranic attitude with the extremely lax punishment for rape in the Bible
"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives" (Deut. 22:28-30).

One must ask a simple question here, who is really punished? The man who only paid a fine for rape, or the girl who is forced to marry the man who raped her and live with him until he dies? Another question that also should be asked is this: which is more protective of women, the Quranic strict attitude or the Biblical lax attitude?

Some people, especially in the West, would tend to ridicule the whole argument of modesty for protection. Their argument is that the best protection is the spread of education, civilised behaviour, and self restraint. We would say: Fine but not enough.
1. If 'civilization' is enough protection, then why is it that women in North America, dare not walk alone in a dark street - or even across an empty parking lot?
2. If Education is the solution, then why is it that a respected university like ours has a 'walk home service' for female students on campus?
3. If self restraint is the answer, then why are cases of sexual harassment in the workplace on the news media every day? A sample of those accused of sexual harassment, in the last few years, includes: Navy officers, Managers, University professors, Senators, Supreme Court Justices, and the President of the United States!
I couldn't believe my eyes when I read the following statistics, written in a pamphlet issued by the Dean of Women's office at Queen's University:

o In Canada, a woman is sexually assaulted every 6 minutes",
o 1 in 3 women in Canada will be sexually assaulted at some time in their lives",
o 1 in 4 women are at the risk of rape or attempted rape in her lifetime",
o 1 in 8 women will be sexually assaulted while attending college or university, and
o A study found 60% of Canadian university-aged males said they would commit sexual assault if they were certain they wouldn't get caught."

Something is fundamentally wrong in the society we live in. A radical change in the society's life style and culture is absolutely necessary. A culture of modesty is badly needed, modesty in dress, in speech, and in manners of both men and women. Otherwise, the grim statistics will grow even worse day after day and, unfortunately, women alone will be paying the price. Therefore, a society like France which expels young women from schools because of their modest dress is, in the end, simply harming itself.

It is one of the great ironies of our world today that the very same headscarf revered as a sign of 'holiness' when worn for the purpose of showing the authority of man by Catholic Nuns, is reviled as a sign of 'oppression' when worn for the purpose of protection by Muslim women.
Religion / Re: Christians And Moslems Can Be Friends! by firdaus4us: 11:10am On Sep 27, 2006
@babycrisis
I read all your posts. Are u praying 4 my death? I can see that you are terribly hurt by my post. If you feel that there were some topics posted to me and I failed to give the answers, please paste them as a new topic and title them Firdaus take notice. In sha Allah, I will answer them accordingly.

I don't usually have interest in any expostulation exceeding 2pages, may be that is why you think I ran away.

By the way, has 4malik travelled out of network? If so, I pray 4 his save return.

[b]Finally, concerning your hatred 4 hijab, don't you read in the bible some of its injunction?

let me shed some light on what is considered in the west as the greatest symbol of women's oppression and servitude, the veil or the head cover. Is it true that there is no such thing as the veil in the Judaeo-Christian tradition? Let's set the record straight.

According to Rabbi Dr. Menachem M. Brayer (Professor of Biblical Literature at Yeshiva University) in his book 'The Jewish woman in Rabbinic literature', it was the custom of Jewish women to go out in public with a head covering which, sometimes, even covered the whole face leaving one eye free. He quotes some famous ancient Rabbis saying,"It is not like the daughters of Israel to walk out with heads uncovered" and "Cursed be the man who lets the hair of his wife be seen, a woman who exposes her hair for self-adornment brings poverty."

Rabbinic law forbids the recitation of blessings or prayers in the presence of a bareheaded married woman since uncovering the woman's hair is considered "nudity".

Dr. Brayer also mentions that "During the Tannaitic period the Jewish woman's failure to cover her head was considered an affront to her modesty. When her head was uncovered she might be fined four hundred zuzim for this offense." Dr. Brayer also explains that veil of the Jewish woman was not always considered a sign of modesty. Sometimes, the veil symbolized a state of distinction and luxury rather than modesty. The veil personified the dignity and superiority of noble women. It also represented a woman's inaccessibility as a sanctified possession of her husband. It is clear in the Old Testament that uncovering a woman's head was a great disgrace and that's why the priest had to uncover the suspected adulteress in her trial by ordeal (Numbers 5:16-18).

The veil signified a woman's self-respect and social status. Women of lower classes would often wear the veil to give the impression of a higher standing. The fact that the veil was the sign of nobility was the reason why prostitutes were not permitted to cover their hair in the old Jewish society. However, prostitutes often wore a special headscarf in order to look respectable. Jewish women in Europe continued to wear veils until the nineteenth century when their lives became more intermingled with the surrounding secular culture. The external pressures of the European life in the nineteenth century forced many of them to go out bare-headed. Some Jewish women found it more convenient to replace their traditional veil with a wig as another form of hair covering. Today, most pious Jewish women do not cover their hair except in the synagogue. Some of them, such as the Hasidic sects, still use the wig.

What about the Christian tradition? It is well known that Catholic Nuns have been covering their heads for hundreds of years, but that is not all. St. Paul in the New Testament made some very interesting statements about the veil:

"Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonours his head. And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head - it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head" (I Corinthians 11:3-10).

St. Paul's rationale for veiling women is that the veil represents a sign of the authority of the man, who is the image and glory of God, over the woman who was created from and for man.

St. Tertullian in his famous treatise 'On The Veiling Of Virgins' wrote, "Young women, you wear your veils out on the streets, so you should wear them in the church, you wear them when you are among strangers, then wear them among your brothers, "

Among the Canon laws of the Catholic church today, there is a law that require women to cover their heads in church. Some Christian denominations, such as the Amish and the Mennonites for example, keep their women veiled to the present day. The reason for the veil, as offered by their Church leaders, is "The head covering is a symbol of woman's subjection to the man and to God" : The same logic introduced by St. Paul in the New Testament.[/b]
Religion / Re: Muslims, What Terminates Fastings? by firdaus4us: 10:32am On Sep 27, 2006
Assalam alaykum,
May Allah continue guiding us alright.
If you involve in any of the ff btw fajr and sunset, your fasting will be spoilt:
1) Eating intentionally
2) sexual intercourse
3)Drinking intentionally

The ff will not:
1)Eating or drinking intentionally
2)Using of eye's drop
3)taking injection that is not nourishment
4)Cooling yourself because of tiredness or pang of fasting
5)bathing

Sorce: Sahih Fiqh suunna (arabic)

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