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Lazycyndy:
All I see are a bunch of bitter frustrated men each time I come across anything red pill whatever concerning women.

I also see a bunch of hypocrites that accuse radical feminists of the same thing they engage on.

Of course there is a reasonable reason for the frustration. The society is becoming increasingly hard for man (I must agree hard for a normal woman as well). They're right something must be done, as I for one is not ready to sacrifice my masculinity to the altar of the Feminist cult.


However, you are damn right they are hypocrites. Oblivious that what they are accusing women of doing is what they are sanctioning men to do

Stillwater10:
there are religious people who are red pill as well as there are atheist who do not believe in the red pill message.

They have to take some and leave some, otherwise the thing itself will become a form of worship for them

lightangel65i:
I understand, but i don't think its stereotype, just look at women and observe them, and you would find out we are not wrong, it cant be stereotype if we are right

Are you telling me that all women are bad? That they are all actively seeking to manipulate the male human?

francesco01:
True. someone published an article sometimes ago stating that nairaland male mods are all gay. and Seun too is a reknowed atheist. And LGBTW goes hand in hand with atheism.

So I think you're very right on this one.

But mind you, RedPillers have different views which is different from the LGBTQ.

I know. I learnt (still learning) useful things from Redpill. But I draw a line where it demands me to see all women through a single lens

Feminism is the problem not women. The challenge is to understand that Feminism is different from women. Feminism is not only promoted by women but by many men as well.

It's also important to note that it's not only men that is negatively affected by feminism but many women too receive its wrath. In the same way, if we do not draw a line early enough in Redpill, a time will come when the heat will go both ways

lightangel65i:
Its not cause of atheism feminism may be because of that but redpill is a way of life.

From the two i dont see how redpill is harmful, just feminism which has foolish views

You may not see how Extreme Redpill is harmful because it's still new. When Feminism was new people were sympathetic to it until the effects start showing.

There are good elements of Redpill, but something that dehumanizes, generalizes, and stereotypes women in general cannot be harmless.

Many collected and documented evidence on sociology have proven over and over again that all stereotyping is false. It might seem true at first look, but with scientific study of the evidence, you find it's all false.

emmaodet:
I don't know what is happening to me again because ever since i joined nairaland and started reading some threads and comments on nairaland, following people like ubunja and co, my life as never been the same again.
I thought social media is just a place for fun but it seems what we hear/watch and see as a way of shaping our lives.
Am a very quite, gentle and respected person in the church and my area but things are really happening fast that calls for concern.
Am in a church organised family whatsapp group with alot of respected families but of lately have been more or less an outcast in the group.
Last week, they raised a topic about Love and why people were commenting positively about how they love their wives and how their wives stood beside them when they were poor, i entered the forum and took the whole topic to the opposite direction. I told them about how Love is not enough to hold a relationship because most ladies will leave when no more money or they see a better option.
The forum went hay wire, cut fire and things went south.
Yesterda, they raised a topic about hiw not to condonea cheating partner and as usual i came into the forum and pointed out the fact that only if they know the high rate of infidelity, a large percentage of marriages will crash instantly.
Ever since my first issue, i noticed a lot of them are really avoiding me like a plague because i was raw, harsh and blunt unlike my previous self.
Ubunja, the manipulated man and pther topics of infidelity as really changed me alot and presently my wife is concerned about me because she said my comments were wild, different, raw etc
Am losing my mind pals, don't know what is happening to me.

Cc
Martinez39
Larryking540
Franchasng
Mekenz
Ubunja
Pansophist
Pocohantas

Yes @Emmaodet, you are loosing your mind. Save yourself now when you can still feel that something is awkward. Check my two articles on the topic:

(https://www.nairaland.com/6043976/redpill-should-not-women-hating

https://www.nairaland.com/6052265/both-redpill-feminism-consequences-atheism)

I will soon make another article on how Nairaland Redpill is turning from useful school of learning to a full blown cult.

SECOND AND FINAL TAB

How then Is Atheism Destroying Our Society?

By deceiving people into thinking that science has proved that God does not exist.

Has science proved that God does not exist?
(Read these two articles from two award winning eminent scientists to confirm for yourself: (i) https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eternitynews.com.au/world/we-cant-prove-god-doesnt-exist-says-award-winning-scientist/amp/ (ii) https://www.rzim.org/read/just-thinking-magazine/can-you-be-a-scientist-and-believe-in-god)

It's true that Redpill is the resultant from the toxicity of Feminism, but that's only half the facts. We have to go back to what gave wide acceptance to Feminism in the first place. The short answer is Atheism. People, owing to the false doctrine that science has buried the IMPORTANCE OF GOD, stopped subjecting themselves to the moral requirements of God.

When people decoupled how they live their everyday lives from God, they noticed that human problems still exist - infact the problems multiplied with the proliferations of wars, the arms race, capitalist consumerism, communist totalitarianism, me-first centred life, etc.

Are you following the logic? Since human suffering persisted - and even multiplied and since there is no longer God and Jesus to blame (or Satan), who remains in the leadership position now? You guessed right - Man!

That's how Feminism movement began. They blame everyone of their suffering on men. It seems reasonable to them that, since according to the Priesthood of the Atheism religion there is no God or Jesus (which actually means no Satan to blame for our woes as the Bible said), all our problems are caused by men who have imposed their authority on us.

The God disbelieving societies of the late 20th century put their faith in this doctrine. Now see where Feminism dogma of the Atheism religion has gotten us. Damaged family relationships. Loss of trust and perpetual tussle among the sexes. Disoriented, effeminate, weak men. Unhappy, insatiable, suicidal women. Confused societies. In fact, super-confused societies. (I hear there are over 60 genders now. That even mathematics, science, technology, and engineering are elements of institutional racism. That humans have failed the planet therefore should allow other animals to rule. Or even plants. The list of the confusion goes on.)

What is the Cure?

Well, any cure that does not restore society to the biblical formula of:

God first
Jesus follows God
Man follows Jesus
Woman follows Man

cannot achieve any lasting good.

God is not folding his hands however, waiting for the self-directed society to come to its senses. No, no, no. He has already set the solution in motion. At the Bible book of Daniel we read: _{“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever” ~ (Daniel 2:44) “I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him up close before that One. And to him there were given rulership, honor, and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom will not be destroyed.” ~ (Daniel 7:13,14)}

"Someone like a son of man" - Jesus, gained access to the "Ancient of Days" - God. So the first two parts of the formula is established - God first; Jesus follows.

What about the remaining two parts? Verse 44 above says that the kingdom (or government) of Jesus "will crush and put an end to all" other governments and his own government will take mantle. So by the command of God, Jesus will MAKE Man follow him, and when Woman see that the craze of Man has been corrected, she will fall in line too.

This taking away of government by Jesus from humans is what is further confirmed by another prophecy in the Bible book of Revelation: _{“The seventh angel blew his trumpet. And there were loud voices in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”}

So by the command of God, the government of the world will become that of Christ.

Jesus knows this is the solution for a perfectly working human society, that's why he asked us to pray for this government in his popular words: _{“You must pray, then, this way: ‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth.’” ~ (Matthew 6:9, 10)}

In the Mean Time However, How Should I Respond to the Toxicity of Extreme Feminism and Redpill Messages?

Basically these two schools of Atheistic religion teach fundamentally helpful tools for the modern man and woman. You pick the tools that will help you stay safe from the manipulations all around us.

Maintain your equilibrium however by listening to Christ - The Anointed Governor

Where extreme Redpill wants you to suspend all your feelings or goodwill towards the female human, choose instead to listen to Jesus' Apostle when he admonishes at the Bible book of Ephesians: _{“Nevertheless, each one of you must love his wife as he does himself...” ~ (Ephesians 5:33)}

Where extreme Feminism wants you to always challenge or usurp the male human, choose instead to listen to the remaining part of that biblical admonition: _{“...on the other hand, the wife should have deep respect for her husband” ~ (Ephesians 5:33)}

Finally, the Bible tells us how to treat everyone - man, woman, old, young: _{“Do not severely criticize an older man. On the contrary, appeal to him as a father, to younger men as brothers, to older women as mothers, to younger women as sisters, with all chasteness.” ~ (1 Timothy 5:1, 2)}

TAB ONE

<sup>"Strong women scare weak men" ~ Extreme Feminists
"Men who have feelings for women are simps" ~ Extreme Redpillers

According to feminists, unless you capitulate to women or sacrifice your manhood, "you are scared by strong women and you are weak"; According to redpillers, if you show any atom of emotion or vulnerability towards women "you are a simp". Two opposing ends of extremism</sup>

In my earlier thread, I wrote an article about how "Redpill Should Not Be About Women Hating". (https://www.nairaland.com/6043976/redpill-should-not-women-hating)
In this article, I will be exploring how both Feminism and Redpill are the creation of Atheism.

Atheists like to point out how destructive religion has been to the world. What they are not telling us is how Atheism has damaged the world and made it as poralised as it is today.

Well, when they say religion is destructive, they are right. The Bible agrees: All false religion is destructive. At Revelation, the Bible grouped all false religions under the symbolic umbrella name: "Babylon the Great." _{"Because of her all the nations has fallen victim". "Yes, in her was found the blood of prophets and of holy ones and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.” ~ (Revelation 17:5; 18:3, 24)}

Atheism is one big religion. At the moment, Atheism is the most influential and the most destructive of world's religions. It has different religious denominations. The top ones are:

Feminism
LGBTQ
Critical Theory (Wokeness)
The newest but growing one nonetheless is Redpill. Then etc.

See if you can recognise the common threads among these denominations of the Atheism religion? Sex, Gender, Race.

Is it not funny how enlightened atheists who denigrate the Bible as a "mythological work of primitive people" end up tussling like brutes over mundane things of the earth. Consider, in the Bible, Sex, Gender, Race (which should have been the focal points of contention if the writers were brutes and primitive people), are properly regulated, sanctified, and honoured. There is no book in human existence that has been found to teach more civility or respect to the human self than the Bible. Yet atheists say the Bible is "mere work of primitive people".

Now look at its own religion and its denominations - Feminism, LGBTQ, Critical Theory, Redpill, etc. They all champion sex, gender, and race! Who is the brute now?

How Atheism Gave Rise to this Sex, Gender, and Race Crazed World

If you want to know how your TV works, you consult the manual provided by its manufacturer. In the same way, if you want to know how humankind works, you consult the manual provided by its maker.

The Bible claims to be such a manual, provided by humankind's maker - God.

How should humankind work? The Bible book of 1 Corinthians 11:3 answers: _{"I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the Christ is God."}

The Blueprint of a Perfectly Working Human Society:

God is the Ultimate Head
Subject to him is the Christ
Subject to him is Man
Subject to him is woman

Disruptions to this model by Priesthoods of religions, atheism inclusive, is the cause of the animalistic and brute conditions of our current societies.


_{Continues on tab two below}

Guys watch this YouTube video to see how international monetary fund (IMF) controls us.

You may want to go to exactly 1:31 to 1:40 if you can't watch it all


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yo

Chii59:
Imagine a future where women teach their daughters that men are evil, and men teach their sons that women are equally evil and should never be trusted

And the sinister thing is that in such an environment, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Men would respond with bad, and women will correspondingly react with bad

Chii59:
You're right.
If you take a closer look at this MGTOW, redpill, Nigerian brand of feminism et cetera, you'll see a lot of people who have been hurt in the past, who have grown to hate a whole gender, rather than those who hurt them, preaching and disseminating the gospel of misogyny and misandry to whomever cares to listen.
It is not psychology. It's hate wrapped up in an ideology. A caustic one at that.

Imagine a future where women teach their daughters that men are evil, and men teach their sons that women are equally evil and should never be trusted, imagine the multiplicity if the hate being preached today is passed on through time.
Very ugly, right?

I will say it again, the problem is neither male nor female. Our past experiences form a basis through which most of us understand issues.
You must understand that there are good and bad people in each gender.

The effect of the wrong-taught is scorching today that it's already scary to imagine the multiplicity in the future.

I agree there are good people in each gender and those are the people I am vouching for

arthorjnr:
Most men are misunderstanding the red pill. Heck, if a guy ever does any nice stuff for a girl, his girl, its seen as SIMPING. Personally, people's opinion don't matter to me and I keep a weather eye on my girl but the miseducation on young guys is bad. I'm gonna have a daughter one day and I'm damn well sure i'll raise her right with my son/sons. If y'all raise males with this mentality, I'm gonna die a happy man if my daughter decides to be single. Like WT actual fvck is wrong with y'all?...

I understand exactly what the red Pill is about and if you don't understand what I and the OP mean, don't bother quoting me.

Thank you Arthor. It will not end well for us and our children unless we put it right.

chocboi78:
Hmmmm.
Well, to me, it's almost (if not) the same thing...some reasons why men consider d red pill is a result of coming to terms that women re gold diggers nd emotional blackmailers..
It's hard to see women as these nd not hate them especially d overly entitled ones..
However, some may agree that red pilling doesn't necessitate women hating based on their own view as to reasons why men choose it so it's definitely a 50-50 vote

Chocboi. It is not scientifically true that women are gold diggers and emotional blackmailers. Study upon study on sociology has proven that women are good.

Generalisation and stereotyping of any subject is often wrong.

Even the video shared by @Mgtowmonk above has something to say about that

BigJoe19:
Nobody is hating women, we are only trying to make our fellow men understand the manipulative ways of women and how to control it when applied on them. If anyone hates, it should be the women that cry at every red pill thread and insult men.

Of course in my post I acknowledge the value of Redpill. We however have to admit that some people are teaching others how to use those tools to manipulate or outrightly hate women

Chii59:
A mature and a wise opinion.
We must do all to avoid the entrapment of hating the opposite gender.
None are entirely saints and neither are entirely sinners.
Toxic masculinity and femininity must be expunged from our mindset.
The problem is neither male nor female but our personal prejudices and biases stemming from past hurtful experiences.
Recycling old hurts and using it as a format to view the opposite gender will be harming us much more than helping us.

Of course. The problem is neither male nor female.

The onus is upon us to let our own light shine to the extent we understand these things. Thank you

Lightangel65:
, i think you are directing this thread at the wrong set of people direct this at the misandrists who practice feminism.
So if i cant use them what should i now use? It?

Well. The point I am trying to make is that the current state of tension between men and women wasn't started by women specifically, but by Feminists (men and women who wanted power). Women bought into it and today everybody is suffering for it.

My own is that Redpill Shouldn't travel the evil path Feminism took

Mgtowmonk:
understanding women isn't misogyny oga if all what you could pick up from the red pill community is hate then you need to get checked yourself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qwwemsZhFA

If you need to read posts twice before understanding, try and always do so before commenting.

Thank you for the video.

Lightangel65:
There is no woman hate here, everywhere there is an argument there are insults. And besides its not like we just decided to dislike them you cant hate someone except that person gives you a reason to.

Do we actually have to argue with "them"? The fact that we have come to view women as "them" I think is a problem in itself

^{(Update: I have a new article on the topic. You might want to check it out too
https://www.nairaland.com/6052265/both-redpill-feminism-consequences-atheism)}

I am new to this knowledge of the Redpill. But being older than many of you here teaching this tool, and having lived through varying kinds of human experiences, (including fortunately or unfortunately the negative and shameful types), I believe I hold an enough skills set to analyse some of the information I have seen so far and pick at where I think we are going wrong.

There are many though but I only want to talk about confusing Redpill with women hating.

Just a few decades ago, most men and women were existing unsuspicious of each other until the formal launch and acceptance of the feminism movement.

When the feminism proponents presented their views, many of their complaints were understandable and were observable as what were actually happening. (Men were clearly - conscious and unconsciously - impeding women's freedom.)

For the exposure the feminism movement brought to this injustice, many men and women became compassionate towards the movement and urged others to give them their support as well.

But just like many other areas where humans have tried to fight injustice, the activist soon became the oppressor. Social life gradually turned in disfavour of men, and their rights overlooked. I think this gave rise to the tools of the Redpill. Feminists quickly descended from equal right seekers to men haters and men abusers.

Now some men are misusing the tools of Redpill to women-hate. The Redpill seeks to equip the knowledgeable man to get the most out of his life, shielding himself from the toxicity of feminism while getting the best out of women.

If during your redpill education you have grown to hate women, you need to check how that stance might hurt your chances of being a well rounded, happy modern man.

Righteousness89:
So Beautiful ...

I am so Eager for the Millienium Reign with JESUS here on Earth after the Rapture..

That's where We are gonna see the True Relationship God ordained for Humans and Animals.

That's where Humans and Animals would live in Love, Joy and Peace..

I Can't Wait for that! It's gonna be So Wonderful!

Do you have a little time let's discuss something about the millennia off this platform

CyberEBOLA:
Quit shopping there.

Okay. But my current concern is to get my card deleted from the site.

I need the way to do this. I imagine that someone somewhere on this site must have tackled this issue with them

Goldencheese:
I don't really know what you mean by storing your information without your permission because you didn't show any proof and like someone said, if you even show a proof, you are just advertising your bank details to the world. But if you insist, you can sue them and have your day in court. All the best.

What I meant by permission is, I typed in my details to shop, and it was automatically saved.

That wouldn't be much an issue, if they also have a method for you to remove it when you wish

CyberEBOLA:
Hahahaha! Unfortunately, you are the one who lacks a working brain.

If your brain wasn't dead, you would have known that when you deactivate an ATM card and apply for a new one, the serial number and the CCV of the new one will be different from the former one.

So anyone with the details on the old(deactivate) atm card, can't tamper with your funds.

Honestly, you need a brain transplant.

So anytime I shop on Jumia, I go for a new ATM? Because of their lack of professionalism

dimexy247:
Lol, you're so funny.

I am serious. I need advice either how to get my card details off that site, or sue them

CyberEBOLA:
Hahahaha!
Note: You are not the only one using jumia, there are probably thousands of other users whose credit card details appears partially and privately on jumia site, and none have complained of their funds being wiped by jumia.

With this publicity of yours, you will only end up drawing more attention to your credit card details out of the thousands of credit details at their disposal, and that attention might actually lead to that thing you fear(wiped funds).

If you are too worried, visit your bank and disable the atm card, then apply for a new one.

I should visit my bank and deactivate my ATM card, then apply for a new one?

I don't blame you, this is what growing up in Nigeria has done to our brains

Goldencheese:
Steal money? This is laughable. We are in the digital age and no one can access your bank account that easily because your account must be linked to a phone number which I am sure is in your care right now. Relax

Do you support them not asking permission to store this information? And no clear way to delete it?

missjekyll:
would you like to call jumia and ask about all this then? They will answer your questions and clear any doubts.

Yes I would.

The number I saw on their page is a line that is on answering machine and not even toll free

Jumia saved my debit cards information on their website without my permission.

I did not mind at first. Now I wanted to remove them and found out there is no option to remove them.

What kind of criminally suspicious activity is this?

1) No option to deactivate your account on Jumia

2) Saved your card details without asking for permission

3) No clear option to remove these details

4) No option to change your email address. (What if your email account falls into wrong hands?)

I have been having restless nights because of Jumia. How can I sue them for trying to kill me with depressions, or make me commit suicide.

Jumia wants to steal money

Powerfly:
You're gay or bisexual.. No offense intended..

Looks does not define being gay or bisexual. What defines gay or bisexual is action.

That you look feminine or masculine does not mean you like the same gender sexually.

Stop confusing people's looks for mental and societal sickness.

Do you think that the OP is gay, then why did he call the men asking for his number "sick"?

ubunja:
Martinez39s, martinez39, illegendd, omar09, #redpillgang come celebrate. Our brother who was asleep has woken up. The matrix loses one more. Amen.


Good day bro. The journey has begun and it will last a lifetime. It will be lonely but it will save you lots of cash. Stay strong.

Ubunja while I want to believe your belief in this redpill , you are still leaving the "f" identification in your profile.

With identifying yourself as a female, you have given the greatest clout to the female folks and degraded your own identity.

To be honest and without mincing words, I think your redpill beliefs has a way more learning to do