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Like I said, the vehicles are always, I mean always overloaded beyond the engine capacity. You will not be there when this is happening. You only get to perceive this when you have to change tires, rims, shocks, springs and exhaust. I am aware that there are cases where they require a towing van to move a fully loaded boxer over a hill because the engine could not carry it further. In some cases, these drivers prefer to carry a heavier load and take a longer route without much hills than the reverse.

That said, the engines are not too expensive to replace. Well as of 2013, I spent less than 50k on engine replacement for each of the engine type. Engines are available in Ladipo, Lagos and Jos. In terms of conversion from diesel to engine, funny enough I also did this on one of the van. I went through this route for business experiment. I had some parts on ground from one of the accident-plagued vans. The Diesel engine of one of them was ran aground by the driver. In the end I opted to change it to petrol. First I had to buy a petrol engine brain box, fuel tank, the engine itself and a few other things that made me wonder if the adventure was worth it. But in the end I sold the used van @ N950k.

As per engine difference, I owned both the petrol and Diesel engine boxers. These vehicles are driven hard by Nigerian drivers. In fact if their engineer per chance witness the way they are used here they will be totally dismayed. Because they are rugged utility vehicles, they usually come from Europe with thoroughly flogged engines with some accumulating high mileage. The key to getting guaranteed low mileage is going for those used as ambulances and fire fighting which I was lucky to get from Jos. Body wise, there are short and long frames. There are also low and high roof models. You should also go for the high roof long frame model which is more suitable for commercial transportation.

There are different variants for both the petrol and Diesel engines. The engines come in 1.9ltr and 2.5ltrs. The petrol usually comes in 2.0ltr. Sincerely speaking I didn't drive these vehicles beyond testing them so I can't tell if the difference in power of the engines are substantial. As you may have observed, the petrol engine option is more difficult to come by making it expensive. Far more diesel vans were produced than petrol vans. Two more factors is that diesel is more expensive than petrol in Nigeria, a factor dealers of these vans capitalize on. Secondly, I have also observed that the petrol engine lasts longer than the Diesel engine from experience.

router123:
Please house I will like to get more information from mechanics and drivers especially those who are in haulage business with this kind of van.
Beside the link the previous person gave me where talking of 2013 figures. I need 2017 prices & figures
How durable are the engine of this vehicles?
What is the current price of the engines?
Does boxer and j5 use same engine if not those the engine of one works in the other?

Mr. Router the 2013 figures I gave when I ran the business might be stale but the underlying principles are still valid in the Nigeria of today. Then petrol and diesel were N97 & N160 respectively, now they are both in the region of N145 & N250 respectively. Given the risen cost of all business operations, repair of vehicles, replacement of parts, driver and motor boy allowances and government tariffs;fares charged on the transport of agric products from the middle belt to the south west have also naturally adjusted to match these increases. In the end profit margins remain almost the same despite putting in more funds than in 2013.

As per difference between the J5 and the Boxer, you must understand that there is difference between Boxer and J5. Both vehicles are joint development and production of Peugeot, Fiat and Citreon. The J5 is the older version that were produced from the early80's to the late 90's while the newer model called Boxer or Ducato continued from then till mid-2000. Fiat retained the name from the old model while Peugeot changed to Boxer. For the sake of availability of parts I will advise you go for the more recent model.

Please go through some of my posts in the thread below. I am sure some of your questions will be answered. I was in the business years ago but had to kill it before I will get killed by it. As in all transport business, the number 1 problem is DRIVER. In fact they are the sole determining factor of the success of the business not money, not even the type of vehicle or the route it plies.

https://www.nairaland.com/1364888/between-ford-e250-peugeot-boxer#16959926

Cheers.

Hello Theo7.
I have since requested for pictures of the Sienna with Camera many weeks ago. I sent you a whatsapp message last week I didn't get any reply.

Car has been sold. Happy buyer, happy seller.

Thank you everyone.

AceSeven:
I can get you that and ship it to u in Nigeria. But payment required first and I'm not sure how patient you are waiting for tokunbo to reach naija . Let me know.

Sorry sir, that route is out of scope. Thanks anyway.

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Please send me details... pictures, mileage, price, VIN etc.

Urgent please.

Car is still available please.

Hello Jadeng, buyer insists on tokunbo. All the same you can send me pics of what you have.

Abuja dealers where are you please? I need tokunbo Sienna.

If you have a very clean tokunbo no-accident 05 -08 Sienna within Abuja and environs kindly mail me at: ofismails@yahoo.com

Send me pictures of exterior, interior, and the engine. I am also interested in the mileage, VIN and your best price please. The proposed buyer needs it urgently. I also welcome offers from Lagos only if it is worth the stress of travelling down to Lagos to inspect the vehicle and bringing it to Abuja.

Thank you.

Car is still available. Buy a sound 2014 VW Jetta. No regrets.

Hello, do you have one with rear camera?

car is available.

Car is available.

Car is still available.

Available.

Car is available.

Available please. Great ride.

Car is available. Neat and fresh.

Car is available. Call for a bargain.

Available. Call to negotiate.

Car is available. Nice Jetta, drives like new. Everything, l mean everything works.

This VW Jetta is fuel efficient. Engine is quick and movement is thrilling.
Please call or lets chat on Whatsapp.

Bought brand new.
Abuja-used, one gentleman owner
51+ Kilometer.
Low mileage
Service history available, never been canibalised by Kazeems
Reliability guaranteed
German Premium auto.

Please call...

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Up for sale is a black one-owner mildly used 2014 Volkswagen Jetta. Vehicle was bought brand new from Stallion Motors, Abuja and only been used for about 3 years since then and has never traveled outside the FCT. Till date, all maintenance services are done at Stallion Motors and always on schedule.

Engine is 4cyl and Transmission is Automatic. Current mileage is less than 52,000 Kilometers.

Everything in the car still works exactly the way they came from the factory. Good tires, nice engine and responsive transmission. Interior is still very neat with fabric seats and no scratches. All the bells and whistles are intact.

Owner lives in Abuja and car can be viewed or test-driven at Central Business District during working hours. He is selling because he needs money to execute a priority.

Asking Price: N3.5M