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JesusisLord85: Another babbler. Have you ever seen a shadow without a body?
Do you know why it is a shadow. Go read leviticus 23 and you will understand what is yet to come. Stop inferring because your mind is carnal, it can only lead to destruction.

there's no pride in sharing d word.i know d law more that u so i can tear it down like paul did.the legal system of law is only binding on pple that are alive.when one party is dead, the ,law is null n void.so is our husband of d chruch.christ died n so the mosaic is null n void we are now free from d grip of the law, set at liberty to serve god in newness of spirit.

JesusisLord85: Yes and I'll break them and show you that you're wrong.

Anyway, enough of that you people have heard. Flourish, are you also of the opinion that Jews must keep the law (not saved by the law, but just keep it), and gentiles are under a different law? I hope you say yes, perhaps I won't be so harsh on your friend, knowing there are more of you out there. I'm used to engaging with those who believe neither have to obey any of the law. Interesting

my take is christians are not bound to obey mosaic laws n regulations n ordinances in any form.christs had destroyed d wall of pertition btw jews n gentiles n had made one new man to himself and that's d church or christians(jew n gentiles).it is the jews that don;t wanna let go their mosaic law but want to bring it into christianity as carry over.this does not mean christians are lawless, we are under the law of liberty, of spirit of life and or the law of christ.nothing mosaic to christianity else, you will be adding judaism to christianity and if such happens,christ died in vain.

JesusisLord85: Olodo, that is the curse of the law...death. The law itself stands
Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice, so a Christian who has confessed Him as Lord does not have to die/be stonned/sacrifice a goat on account of their sin.

what law stand?law of moses or of christ or of spirit of life or law of sin n death or the one called ministry of condemnation?have u read romans chapetr 7 very well?one thing about u teachers of the law to christians is that u think u know d law but the same law of moses u think u know is the same that condemns y'all and u don't even know what the law says neither do u understand it.everything u read under d law is pure shadows,christ is d substance.

^you hv started playing games.if you can't do a verse by verse explanation i think it's advisable u vacate the thread.there're countless verses that proves gentile christians are not subject to the law of moses.are you a jew by birth?

^^^ The book is revelation full n I love it most.

I wanna join in. Any Christian that don't understand da book of Romans can't understand anything in da bible,dats da book dat holds all apostolic doctrines.

Mee234: who taught u Paul abi u been following Paul from birth? If indeed u have the truth, some one must have taught you. unless your truth na follow come which is not possible '' for all have sin''.

what kind of argument is this?it's lost in purity.the guy said Paul d apostle is his teacher n u still asking for his teacher who taught him.u think is everyone dat must attend man made bible school?Paul wasn't taught of n by anyone or man except by d Lord revelation.how about that?

Boomark: So those things are from tracts? no wonder they are most times out of context.

@flourishG
next time use "shatap" instead of "shut y mouth." But some command can be insulting. Do not bring anyone down with your words. Bless bidam instead.

bless u brother.I will hv mercy on him next time.

This obadiah dude must b deluded!

^^^ that's d anti Christ message the redeemed church leader spread.why did he see in d bible that paying tithe should b a requirement for ordination n blessing of marriage?this is complete nonsense!

shdemidemi: I guess you don't know much about these guys, they run away when you start quoting scriptures. oladegbu might come back to paste his deeper life tract and run away to open another jewish gospel thread.

been following this ola for sometimes now.all I c him do is teach Judaism or mix Judaism with Christianity.this bidam I need checkout his old post.

Bidam: Now do you with all humility agree the error of your gospel?

he demanded u show scriptures.is dat too much for u?

Bidam: You are always insulting pple you don't know,i hope you were taught manners by your parents at home where charity begins? Learn how to interact maturely with people without bursting out a spleen!! What do you understand by judaism? Mention any of olaa..msg that you think are Judaism,or keep quiet if you don't have a reasonable thing to say.

am I d one insulting u or truth that hurts?if not that u hypocrite,do u need proof of d Judaism ola teaches on other threads?

jlounge: So how does DL now become your business?

it's his business cos dl teaches anti cross n double standard messages, one message for Nigerians n another gospel for western world.

OLAADEGBU: But it is your business to stop the sheep from fellowshiping, no?

yes,he can stop d brethren from fellowshiping in wrong place where legalism is upheld n where the spirit of God dwells.the lord is dat spirit n where the spirit of the lord is, there's liberty not legalism n bondage.

Bidam: True.He is really one of the consistent teachers i have seen in this forum,unlike frosbel who have strayed off the path.

shut yr mouth there! A judaizer is a consistent teacher?you must b an anti Christ then because u make void d cross via yr Judaism teachings n dat makes u an anti Christ n anti cross.

Frosbel n shhedemide, great works u guys doing.tearing down these legalistic teachers of Judaism.

jendell: i tot their brodas in nairaland said d photo was photoshopped,y r they apologizing?

it's all hypocrisy n some people being above the law while other should subject themselves to d law.That's what i hate n fight here.my message is simple.

OLAADEGBU: We are not told here to work for our salvation, but to work it out—that is, to demonstrate its reality in our daily lives. Our salvation must be received entirely by grace through faith, not of works (Ephesians 2:8-9), or else it is not true salvation.

this is a good stuff here n truth.da verse does not say work for ya salvation but since u are saved by grace thru faith, something happened on ya inside, so all u do is work it out,let it flow out from inside.bless u bro.

OLAADEGBU: Works can no more keep our salvation than they can earn it for us in the first place. It is not faith plus works, but grace through faith.

here is an issue.if works can no more keep our salvation, why then do u ola subject yourself n teach other to d works of the mosaic law like judaism to keep n continue salvation knowing it is faith alone n not faith plus works but faith n grace?this we wanna know.

OLAADEGBU: The context of our text, in fact, assures us, on the basis of Christ's sacrificial death, glorious resurrection, and exaltation (Philippians 2:8-11) that "it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure" (v. 13). God is thereby enabling us to "work out" our salvation in visible practice, through the indwelling Holy Spirit of God.

i don't think u ever completely trust in the finished n sacrificial works of d lord.if god is enabling us to work it out what he put inside, why are u trynna do that via dead works of d law of moses?

what is pencil trouser please?

obadiah777: ALL ALLEGORIES SIRE

nonsense

iv4fb: @flourish, this will be my last reply to u, for it seems you just conclude without listening to the other person's point of view, you obviously didn't read my post or get what I was arguing with frosbel on. Do read my posts.

And for the records, I didn't say they were right, I actually said what they did was a sin against the church and me and frosbel debated on the word 'sin'

Fyi, rules were not bent, they were broken, the dent in the image of DL will remain a stigma forever.

Don't insult ppl you are of different opinion with, if we all have same opinions and beliefs we would become zombies! You always don't have right to call a church a cultist or judge them based on whichever standard. I rest my case

okay brother. u good man n u straight. bless u. now i clearly understand yr stand. i hereby exclude u from the others trynna cover up for the mistake of the couples. bless u!

Mintayo: at ur last statement=are u sure frosbel is doing that? Are u sure he will follow any pastor/man of God as/if d pastor is following christ?
With dis statement made by Paul,can we say Paul too is false?
People shld think well and let d Holy Spirit guide them through d Word of God!
It is nobody's right to condemn a man of God!

nobody is condemning.i hate this attitude when pple like frosbel n other say d truth and the disciples of men like some pple we see here come to defend their leaders.there's no condemnation whatsoever for those who are in christ.so we simple say d truth but some babbysitters don't like their pastors talked to n dat becomes an issue of contention.when their pastor or organization does what is wrong, they shld be able to admit it n move on, no one is above mistake or error but to begin to cover up for their hypocrisy is gross unrighteousness n dats da issue here.

Sheggun1: .......pastor kummuyi is not staying with dem in jamaican.........

u see y i said u shld not b here talking because babysitters like u can't think for themselves.this is an organization n d same standard holds everywhere or is deeperlife nigeria different from deeperlife south africa?except u saying they teach something different in nigeria n another thing in jamaica then that will be another topic.

Sheggun1: .......read it very well n stop posting rubbish ....u dis .........arabic f**l

okay.let's do it this way.

"In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;"

everybody can read.what is d verse saying?

iv4fb: @flourishG, all you is insult people, are you ok?

I have a right to my own opinion and you have no right whatsoever to insult me for that. Today is sunday and all u is insult people? If DL is bad, what is that to you? You that don't even have control over your words, all you do is insult ppl.

You have problems with urself; go get a life! Try and be matured in approach, you hypocrite!

i just told u why n where i insult but u didn't listen. okay.let's do it this way.i will not insult anyone nomore except those trynna call black white.okay.now, you have no right to your own as far as d word of god is concerned n i have no right also.we say it as d word says it so u wrong there.can we discuss d issue now i mean d hypocrisy of deeper life,that's d issue here.try understand my fight.i hv nothing against deeeper life but bending rules when its the leader child n members cannnot do same and even at that,it is false to tell pple how to n how not to dress especially on their wedding day.can we talk abt that?

Sheggun1: .............u told u dey were following d pastor

stop dodging d issue u raise.are u talking to a babysitter like yourself?if you can't think as a man for yourself then u re a babysitter.u understand?you just said "Did u knw his wife is not a nigerian" and i asked u if you preach a different standard n gospel to nigerians n different gospel to d international world.what is yr defense?

Sheggun1: ....use ur common sense 2 decode it

i am using my common sense which is not even common to many in da first place.what is that verse saying?that women should not put on clothes or what?i want to engage your bible knowledge on this.

OLAADEGBU: Are you sure that DLBC in Jamaica has a marriage committee?

chief judaizer.so your cult is organized in nigeria n not well organized in jamaica?what won't u say to cover unrighteousness you.the law u preach cannot be upheld by yr kumuyi son?i though they say charity begins at home?

Sheggun1: Did u knw his wife is not a nigerian

you're d worse hypocrites commenting on this thread.what nonsesnse is that?so you pple preach a different gospel to nigerians and different gospel to the international world?that's ridiculous mehn and that's no gospel of christ in da first place.you should b ashamed of this yr comment.that's y i insult u pple because u never think for yourself,your pastor think for u n y'all just following blindly n religiously.this is d greatest nonsense i ever read here.i thought pygru was worse but u are worst than him.

iv4fb: @ Frosbel, even the Devil knows the words; you always quote the Bible to suit you-and fear has never allowed you mention the name of your own church!

keep quiet and stop all this yr nonsenses talk here.just because d devil quote scriptures doesn't mean he know the word.you pple are so half baked n mushroom religious followers not follwing christ.what is yr business with frosb church?is he not a christian?why dont u mind your business in yr own church.

iv4fb: @flourishG, its obvious u have a personal beef with DL and you most likely have issues with urself-remember nothing good comes from evil people; its difficult to understand why you can't debate a topic without recourse to insults and violence-to a point you're promising to kill someone- my brother, you are the cultist!

you this babysitters of religious cult always come on with attitude that we have personal issues when we say the truth against hypocrisy.i know u pple too well.the lord says beware of the leaven of the pharisees which is hypocrisy just like saying beware of dogs.we are saying what the couples did was wrong and the generally laid down standard for everyone and you and some empty head folks are taking side trynna cover one side up.that's nonsense.and did u attend english class at all?did i promised to kill pygru?did u read my comment well?that's how u pple take even bible word out of context n spread false teachings.i said "if" i see a snake n see pygru, i will first kill pygru first b4 kill d snake with da reason dat pygru is more devilish than a snake.go n learn english b4 u debate in public forum like this.da same way u will take bible words of context.and who told u i cant discuss with insult.i insult only those who try to slanderr frosb for saying the truth and try to cover the bent standard of kumuyi son and hypocrisy.dat d reason for d insult and if u wanna talk peacefully,u welcome but dont call what is black white because it involves kumuyi son,i hate that nonsenses.

iv4fb: @ topic, there's no need for apologies; if they can conceive it, deliver it, sustain it with no objections during and 2 weeks after from the leadership, why the apologies? To reduce tensions? Or smoothens situations? I'm not a judge or jury to know if their actions were wrong or right, God be the judge.

now u talking.these kids that called themselves couples knows the standards or rules if i may say.why didn't they obey then but hv to disobey n then come out to apologize.i hate when pple say the truth n some trynna call it judgement,there ain't any judgment yet until we get to heaven so say the truth and don't think u judging, you ain't judging no one.

Sheggun1: .........sorry i mean ist timothy 2vs9

I hv read it.what's ya point?