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@Abuzola :

That is the problem with Muhammedans. You can never argue logically without resorting to violence. Why are you calling her a slut ? Do you know her before ?

I hope this Muhammedan Islam is wiped off Nigeria so that Nigeria can progress.

God have mercy

Abuzola 1:
Me too

Of course Saudi Black stone is your guide.

God have mercy

@downlawal:

Everybody in this world even in UK knows you are an advanced Oraisa girl with gworo teeth.

Your allah is the black stone which embedded in the corner of Kabah.

Israel are God's chosen people. Arabs are not God's chosen people, although God blessed the Arabs, and the angel of God said that the seed of Ishmael will be hostile and they will be against everyone and everyone will be against them.

Ishmael is the progenitor of many Arabs, INCLUDING ARAB Christians.

Isaac is the progenitor of all Jews, INCLUDING Jewish atheists and Jewish Christians.

Most Christians (non-Jewish, non-Arabian, plus a few other groups--e.g. Esau) are NOT physical descendants of Abraham at all (only descendants by faith, as are Arab Christians and Chinese Christians and African Christians.

Not all Muslims are Arabs (obviously--since there are Jewish Muslims, English Muslims and TONS of African and Maylasian Muslims).
Some Muslims are descendents of Isaac (e.g. Edom/Esau is in the ancestry of Jordan).

The "his hands will be against this brothers" was a prophecy just about Ismael (and presumably his household, as with most such statements), with no mention of his remote decendants in the text. Genesis leaves him (with no further mention) dwelling in the Arabian peninsula in 'independence' (not 'military defiance', btw). Unlike Esau, Ishmael is never made into the 'figurehead of opposition'. Modern antagonism on the part of a small subset of today's Muslims would be difficult to trace back to this prophecy (e.g., if it WERE a prophecy of all of Ishmael's descendants, then ALL/MOST them--muslim or not-- would be 'at hostility' with all OTHER Arabs--"their brothers", see?).

God never stated anything negative about Ismael's remote 'descendents'--only that He would BLESS Ishmael (not curse him!!!) and make him a 'great nation'-- as an answered prayer to Abraham (who loved Ishmael). They (as inhabitants of Sheba/Seba), will honor the Millenial king with gold--Psalm 72.10,15. [This is important: God BLESSED Ishmael; He never BLESSED Esau. Blessing is special.]
Strictly speaking, MOST of the original Arabs (from the Arabian peninsula) were NOT descendants of Israel:
"In the Table of Nations (Gen. 10) a number of Arabian tribes are mentioned: among the descendants of Joktan (of the line of Shem), Hazermaveth, Sheba, Havilah, and others (10:26–29); and among the descendants of Cush (of the line of Ham), Seba, Havilah, and others (10:7). If Cush is to be taken to mean Ethiopia, then the relationship of the south Arabian peoples and the Ethiopic peoples (or some of them), which is clearly indicated linguistically, may lie behind the dual reference in the Semite and Hamite genealogies. We also find northern Arabian tribes mentioned among the descendants of Abraham by Keturah (Gen. 25:1–4) and by Hagar (25:12–15), and among the descendants of Esau (Gen. 36). At the time of Solomon, contacts with the Arabian peninsula are indicated, both in the visit of the Queen of Sheba (1 K. 9:26ff, etc.) and in the tribute from the “kings of (the) Arab” (2 Ch. 9:14)." Bromiley, G. W. (1988; 2002). The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Revised (Vol. 1, Page 220). Wm. B. Eerdmans.
That being said, there is a huge religious contention between Judaism and Islam over the Abrahamic passage (e.g. which son was offered on the altar by Abraham), and over some of the 'shared' religious sites. But it doesn’t have anything to do with today's contention--as far as I can tell. Most of the extremist Muslim-subset polemic against Israel (and allies) has to do with the 1967 war, apparently, although tensions have always run high since Israel was given back the Land after WW2.

But, in context, Christian-Muslim tensions were so much higher than Jewish-Muslim tensions for centuries and centuries longer.

The OT hostilities were mostly between Israel and Egypt (non-Ishmael), Israel and Moab/Ammon (descendents of Lot, Abraham's nephew), Israel and Canaan/Philistia (no relation to Abraham), Israel and Amalek (descendants of Esau), and Israel and Esau/Edom (descendant of Isaac). The major wars with Assyria and Babylon would have involved SOME Ishmaelites, but those nations were pre-Abrahamic in origin and of mixed nationalities by the time of the wars with Judah and Israel. Some of the Midianites are associated with Ishmaelites (as Bedouins) in the OT [they were decendents of Abraham by Keturah, so they would be 'brethern' of Ishmael also], so there is SOME hositily (e.g, the Midianites that Gideon fought were said to be Ishmaelites and Psalm 83 lists them as being in league with all the other enemies of Israel (long before there was Islam, obviously!), but it is minute in comparison to other peoples, smile. The Midianites are not all bad, either, since Moses' father-in-law was one (also called a Kenite), and the Kenites are probably also Ishmael-related (as were the dutiful Rechabites). They gave gifts of gold and flocks to Solomon and Jehoshaphat (2 Chr 9.14; 17.11).

Abuzola 1:
be intimate with the black stone

I pray for your deliverance . You really don't know what you are doing. You think you are worshipping God, but allah in reality is Saudi Black stone. There is a demon attached to that name called allah.

Rockamon:
Read this if you have the guts

Thanks for exposing that evil cult called Muhammedan Islam. God have mercy.

The so called Muslim prophet is a thief.

I beg I no fit laugh 

Muhammed Barawo Banza 

Muhammed Ole

Muhammed Onye Oshi

Abuzola 1:
Keep quiet

Keep your big Muhammedan mouth shut. They are really stinking.

Worshipper of Saudi Arabian Black stone.

Abuzola 1:
And what happened to him u slowpoke

Go and read what happened to him knitwit. stupid idiot.

Abuzola 1:
Cos u are misguided

You are the one who is misguided because you are worshipping Saudi black stone and you are always banging your head on the floor five times a day in worship of your bladck stone.

God have mercy !!!!

Abuzola 1:
May Allah guide u

God is my guide.

Saudi black stone (allah) is not my guide.

Abuzola 1:
Deluded son of jesu

Deluded son of Saudi black stone(allah).

I pity you and I pity the people who gave birth to you.

z-murda:
Abuzola no kill me with laff o.

Paul said women should not speak in church, they now do! koran said beat the women, why not stop. The world has moved on. or are muslims still in the 6th century?!
anyone who beats a woman is sick. the person usually has self confidence issue. i have never had to beat my wife nor has she beaten me (heaven forbid), but I have all the respect in the world accorded me

The Quran commands the Muhammedan to beat their disobedient wife or wives to nonsense.

Islam is a big joke

uplawal:
keep wondering and dnt go and accept ALLAH as your GOD

Orisirisi



I pity you. You are accepting Saudi Black stone as your god. God have mercy.

Oraisa girl.

Abuzola 1:
Keep quiet cross worshipper

Keep quiet worshipper of Saudi black stone

muhsin:
Thanks God; its only the "common" sense I lack.

Do you wanna engage me in real discussion? Ge buy maturity.

Cya!

I challenge you for a real discussion on Islam, satanic verses, and I would to lecture on what the Quran is all about because you know nothing about the Quran

@Abuzola :

You think with your backside just the way your brothers (Taliban in Afghanistan) think.

olabowale:
@Gloriuss: If I can point out to you the inconsitencies in the Bible, that will proof that it is not 100% word of God and that, from the time it was penned, starting from after Jesus was raised up by his Lord, all the way to recent time; say 1971, it changes as the world turns, will you become Muslim?

Please have the strength to stand up to my challenge! Thanks. I will show you verses that provide the thoughts of Paul and at least one that is in one Bible and it is not in another!

Who wants to follow a prophet a saudi war lord who is even sure if he is going to heaven or not ? Who wants to follow a cult that characterised by utter violence, denial of facts and veracity ? God does not force people to follow him. he gave man the opportunity to make a choice. Do you really know who a prophet is ?

It was Ibn Khazem (1064) who was the first Muhammadan to charge that the Bible has been corrupted and falsified by the followers of Moses and Jesus.  This charge was made in a last ditch and desperate effort to defend 'Islam' against Christianity because he came upon the many serious and unexplainable contradictions and differences between the Quran and the Bible.

Believing by faith that the Quran is true and incorruptible, Ibn Khazem had no choice but to come to the conclusion that then it must be the CURRENT Bible that is false and untrue especially since Muhammad instructed his followers to respect the Bible in the first place.

Jesus should never be compared with Muhammed. NEVER EVER !!!

To start with :

The ALLAH of the Quran is NOT the GOD of ISRAEL or of JESUS since in fact it is the name of the ARABIAN PAGAN spirit god that resided in the BLACK STONE embedded in the corner wall of the KA'BA, long before Muhammad and his alleged 'revelations'.

Almost every important verse in the Quran has something to do with or about the persona of Muhammad:
his thoughts, lust, hatred, anger, fear, emotions, megalomania or wishful thinking.

Muhammed was NEVER a prophet in the first place and he did not possesss any attributes of a Prophet. He is a Saudi warlord. A man full of hate and vengance.

Jesus birth was through Immaculate conception and his The virgin birth teaches that Jesus, the only begotten Son of God, was miraculously conceived by the Virgin Mary. Prophetically, this was foretold in the Old Testament and became literally fulfilled later in the New Testament. Genesis 3:15; Isaiah 7:14. The virgin birth is thus an essential doctrinal truth, which must be upheld for its fact and significance. Disputing this cardinal doctrine is by implication, denying Christ’s Deity and His distinctive nature as the only sinless man, conceived without Adamic depravity. It was this distinctive spotlessness that disqualified every other man from satisfying God’s demand at Calvary. He therefore, became the spotless Lamb of God found in fashion as a man.

God was the first to unveil the virgin birth of Christ when he referred to Him as the seed of the Woman; Genesis 3:15. This was alluding to the fact that Christ would be conceived by a woman who had never known a man. The prophet Isaiah in his proclamation said, "Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a Son , " (Isaiah 7:14).

Muhammed NEVER lived a holy life, but he lived a life of terror. Muhammedans believed in the arabian demon called allah. That is why Islamic cult was propagated by utter terror and deception while the christians believed in the almighty God. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Aloy~Emeka:
Abuzola, did Mohammed flog his wives?

Muhammed have no regard for his wives. He treated them as a domesticated animals.

one wonders why focused123 is not a muslim when he epitomised the bolded?

@Olabowale :

I will never be a muslim ! There is no where in the bible that says that a man should beat his wife. The bible says a man should love his wife just the way Christ love the church and gave his life for it. The bible says the man should nourish and cherish his wife.

Isn't it true that the Quran commands a male Muhammedan to beat a disobedient Muslima to nonsense ? I don't know why Muhammedan love denying facts and veracity.

Abuzola 1:
So ishmael is a bastard ? You guys are stupid

You are most stupid idiot on this surface of the earth. Of course Ishmael is a bastard that is why Ishmaelites behave the way they do.

. The truth hurts, doesn't it ?

Abu-Safwan:
before they were chosen by allah but later accursd them for thier infidelity and arrogance. today the only chosen servant of allah the most rightful believer and i have no doubt that we are, (the muslims)

Keep deceiving yourself. You deluded son of satan.

@Muhsin:

You don't have common sense and I don't expect you to. Muhammedan Islam is characterised by utter stupidity and denial of facts and veracity. You asked me to give you proof and I have given you proof and you are denying it.

Islam is built on lies, deceit and fraud.

I pray God (Not allah) should direct you to the right path. Quran contain satanic verses because Muhammed was never a prophet in the first place and hence cannot discern when satan was talking to him.

Abuzola 1:
keep quiet make we hear wordzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Silly beast. Malu.

Abuzola 1:
tell that malu

Your father is a malu. Muhammedan Bastard.

Abuzola 1:
have you forgotten solomon the husband of hunredsssssssssssssz

And do you remember what happen to Solomon in the end ?? Block head

@ Abuzola :

Ishmael was the first son of Abraham but he was not the promised child.

The promised child is Isaac, which is the child Sarah had for Abraham at her old age according to the promise of God to Abraham.

Abuzola 1:
you lack manner

Mannerless beast.

Abuzola 1:
10:2
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Muhsin Khan
: Is it wonder for mankind that We have sent Our Inspirationto a man from among themselves (i.e. Prophet Muhammad SAW) (saying): "Warn mankind (of the coming torment in Hell), and give good news to those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah and in His Prophet Muhammad SAW) that they shall have with their Lord the rewards of their good deeds?" (But) the disbelievers say: "This is indeed an evident sorcerer (i.e. Prophet Muhammad SAW and the Quran)!

Nonsense. Why are you quoting satanic verses ?

Muhammedans don't accept their mistake and solve it. Rather they blame others for their own pathetic mistakes.

Horrible people.

Abuzola 1:
10:11

: And were Allah to hasten for mankind the evil (they invoke for themselves and for their children, etc. while in a state of anger) as He hastens for them the good (they invoke) then they would have been ruined. So We leave those who expect not their meeting with Us, in their trespasses, wandering blindly in distraction. (Tafsir At-Tabari; Vol. 11, Page 91)

Rubbish. The Quran is from satan and hence satanic verses .