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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 7:17pm On Jul 16, 2022
FirstbornWds:
So you are saying Alonso will bench Jordi Alba as a Let back? Lol. Not on his life or prime as a whole. Alba is his lord even in the Spanish NT.

Raphina will surely face stiff competition with Dembele to man the right wing but comparing him to any winger in Chelsea except from Sterling should be a crime punishable by 7 years imprisonment. None of them is good enough, not even close.

The only reason Azpi will get into the Barcelona's team is because we don't have a solid right back now. The same goes for James. If not, no other player can come in.

And it's complete hogwash to claim that Araujo will not walk into a defense as Chelsea when you have only a 38years old Silva and 31 years old Koulibaly as the only standing defenders in a team that likes to play a 3-man defense. Na Chalobah go give am issue? Abeg
From Chelsea's goalkeeper to Lb, Rb, CD to midfield all will walk straight to your Barcelona starting eleven.

...............................Mendy......

.......Reece..........Azch.......Tiago..........Chiwell.......

....................Kante..................Jorginho.......

.....Ziyech.................Mount.................. Raheem.....

....................Lewandowski...........

That's the fact on ground.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 6:56pm On Jul 16, 2022
FirstbornWds:
Wahala... Wasn't he a Chelsea player before he was discarded to Everton and Manyoo before you guys went and paid 100m for him be used of his ONE-SEASON WONDER stint at Inter?

Why getting emotional?
You lied Lukaku was a one season wonder player at Inter before buying him. The joke is on you.

Stop lying to make a point.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 6:54pm On Jul 16, 2022
FirstbornWds:
He played for Rennes brother.. Renness, a mid table club that's always one step to relegation. Leeds utd was supposed to be the upgrade for him but Marcelo Bielsa's tactics fell through. Now that he's gotten to a better place, why not allow him not put in those numbers first before coming for him.

Why compare with someone that played in the best club in Netherlands?

BTW, every season since Raphina became a professional, he's been having improved stats, every passing season.
For your information, Ziyech won his first individual laurel with FC Twenty a middle table team. That was Eredivisie Best Player 2015/2016 and Eredivisie team of the season. Please cut the crap.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 6:47pm On Jul 16, 2022
FirstbornWds:
Coming from a person that supports a team that bought Lakaka for 100m because of one season wonder in inter.
One season wonder in Inter!? Are you kidding me?

Lukaku is a world class players that has scored double digits goals for 9 seasons at stretch. He scored 30 goals in both seasons at Inter before joining Chelsea.

You must be a novice in football. Just stick with your Barcelona.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 6:39pm On Jul 16, 2022
andrewbaba44:
He didn’t call mount ,mount is better than raphinha ,mount is not even playing from the flanks self but AM

But you see those Warey wey him call dem no sabi anything ,including harvetz ,no need to even argue self ,

Raphinha will boss the Dutch league ,even dusan tadic is doing like Lionel Messi there

In Chelsea forwards ,it’s only mount and sterling that’s better than raphinha
Why em no boss "farmer's league" before coming to EPL? Dem hold em leg? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 6:36pm On Jul 16, 2022
BlueAngel444:
leave him make him dey deceive himself, the record of attackers that have flopped in Barca go soon reach sky
Hahahahahahaha! grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 6:35pm On Jul 16, 2022
FirstbornWds:
Wait fezz, wasn't Timo the regular starter for your guys before last season? Wasn't it when he started misfiring that Fraudvertz relegated him to playing as forward.

Lakaka fell out with the team and had nothing to do with walking into the team. He was easily the starting 9 during the first 5 games except for the first game against Crystal Palace. He played the game against Arsenal, Liverpool, A. Villa, and even Tottenham, including the Zenith UCL game.

The only person in your list that found it difficult for the team was Saul and good thing, he was on loan. Now tell me who's better suited for the right wing position in this present Chelsea that you think will bench Raphina
Story. grin

Ziyech of course but from the way we play, it's Reece. Do you understand? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 6:33pm On Jul 16, 2022
FirstbornWds:
Those names you mentioned already showed the class they were made of. Ziyech is just a show-off player and nothing more. Comparing to Raphina in the EPL is beginning to sound like an insult.
When and where did they show class? grin Definitely not Chelsea.

In the same EPL, Ziyech made 2021/2022 FA cup team of season. What did Raphinha win? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 6:24pm On Jul 16, 2022
BlueAngel444:
leave him make him dey deceive himself, the record of attackers that have flopped in Barca go soon reach sky
I don tire for the guy.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 6:20pm On Jul 16, 2022
BlueAngel444:
Na the same PRESUMPTION dey make Una craze over every player that puts on a Barca shirt, from the forgotten new Messis to new Xavis and new Neymar and co. Dem don dey call Raphinha new Ronaldinho.

U guys hype your players till dey flop grin that's how u guys hyped Fati while mocking champions league winner and boss Vincius, a player he can't lace his shoes. Apart from Pedri which other Barca player is close to world class? The rest na hype

The self delusion reach so tey u na no gree say greenwood better pass Fati

Now for a bunch a self centered praise maniacs who do una think u are to correct for praising a player that has won a lot and performed alot. Even when De Jong was in Ajax he would still lace Ziyech boots, yet De Jong is great but Ziyech is not. Stop it before thunder reach u, imagine, Ziyech is nothing special

If Salah couldn't do it at Chelsea doesn't that mean shit. Guy u fall hand
I don tire dat guy ooo.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 6:04pm On Jul 16, 2022
FirstbornWds:
Raphina will equally will win everything Ziyech achieved individually if he played for Ajax. Ziyech isn't anything close to special. Forget all these tit-a-tat show of talent shame you guys occasionally see. If he couldn't do it at Chelsea, there's no other big team he can do it, especially not at Barcelona where every player is presumed to be an immediate superstar.
It's like saying if Lukaku, Salah, Bruyne etc couldn't do it in Chelsea then they can't do it anywhere else. Please, cut crap.

What's special about Raphinha? grin

Ziyech didn't only prove himself in Eredivisie, he has proven himself in UEFA competitions before coming to Chelsea.

Definitely, you don't have an idea.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 5:56pm On Jul 16, 2022
FirstbornWds:
Who'll Ziyech start over in Barcelona? The only player in the blues guaranteed of a starting 11 in Barcelona is Reece James, and maybe to an extent Mount, even this one will be a squad player.

And stop saying rubbish, Raphina will walk easily to the Chelsea 's lineup and will be forced to play even if has a knock.

No cap!!
Which easily? Did Lukaku, Timo and Saul walked easily into Chelsea's lineup? Don't forget these were important players for their various clubs before joining Chelsea.

Raphinha is even a low level player that has not achieved anything those aforementioned players had achieved in their career.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 5:53pm On Jul 16, 2022
Blaxhex:
omo grin grin
Who be this abeg? cheesy

So why was tuchel willing to splash the cash to get him and do away with the said ziyech?
Is Lukaku a bad player? Some players don't just fit into Chelsea style of play. Don't you get that?

We are looking for players that can fit into our style of play.

It doesn't necessarily mean discarded players are not good.

I can mention players that flopped in Chelsea and latter became top players in other teams.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 5:47pm On Jul 16, 2022
FirstbornWds:
The Ziyech that has been playing in the Chelsea's shirt since the last 2 years is nowhere near Raphina. Maybe back in the Netherlands' league, but in the EPL that connects both, Raphina has been better, despite playing for a lower team.

I didn't mention Mount in my earlier statement for a reason. And for Werner, please, that one is a jack of everything but last season saw him racing on the wings more than upfront that was manned by either Lakaka or Fraudvertz!!
See why Mount was mentioned below.

Better in Epl no doubt but my premise is based on individual talent. Ziyech edge Raphinha in all ratification.

FirstbornWds:
Which nonsense Ziyech are you talking about? The one that doesn't know when to play a simple pass or not make senseless dribbles. Bar Sterling, none of your wingers is as good as Raphina..

Injury-prone Pulisic, mis-firing Werner or the monumental failed Morrocan? Let's now even talk about the Double-faced Odoi that doesn't remember his preferred position.

Please, state your point but don't compare.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 5:40pm On Jul 16, 2022
Blaxhex:
Omo!
I hope you're just playing dumb to prove a point Sha, cuz Local man will be astonished if you're slow for real cheesy
That's the obvious facts on ground. If Ziyech goes to another club....even Barca he will be starting games but in Chelsea he is not.

This is fact. Raphinha in Chelsea will not start games. That's just how things are in Chelsea. Team play.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 5:36pm On Jul 16, 2022
kingBolton:
Chalobah in a back three is ok as squad depth but definitely not a regular starter .
I will have to watch Ampadu as DMF before passing my judgement.
He was a weakling at the back 3. He lacks experience for now. We need to add more defenders to our team if we want to win anything tangible this season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 5:29pm On Jul 16, 2022
Oasis007:
Nigeria politics but on Sport Section..... strictly for sensible Nairalanders.
Oh i see.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 5:27pm On Jul 16, 2022
FirstbornWds:
Which nonsense Ziyech are you talking about? The one that doesn't know when to play a simple pass or not make senseless dribbles. Bar Sterling, none of your wingers is as good as Raphina..

Injury-prone Pulisic, mis-firing Werner or the monumental failed Morrocan? Let's now even talk about the Double-faced Odoi that doesn't remember his preferred position.

Please, state your point but don't compare.
Mount scored 11 goals and had 10 assists last season.

Comparing Raphinha with Ziyech is ridiculous because Ziyech has proven himself at the highest level.

3 times Eredivisie player of the year and Dutch football player of the year.

Besides, Werner is a striker.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 4:39pm On Jul 16, 2022
kingBolton:
I don't even think Ampadu is Chelsea standard to be honest, although I will like to see his performance playing as a right center back. Chalobah is ok for sqaud depth.
Chalobah na disaster. The Ampadu I saw in Seria A played mostly as DMF. We don't need to experiment with him.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:19pm On Jul 16, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Hopefully this move happens
Good move though.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 4:04pm On Jul 16, 2022
Capaldi:
Chalobah and Ampadu are not ready for anything. we need more defenders.
Gbam!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 3:52pm On Jul 16, 2022
Oasis007:
grin

If you're interested in political discussions, visit the link;

https://www.nairaland.com/7186774/epl-chatroom-all-discussions/120#114785204
As in sports politics or Nigerian politics?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 3:15pm On Jul 16, 2022
Oasis007:
grin

Lol..... welcome to the special Section on Nairaland.
Lol. Thanks
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:03pm On Jul 16, 2022
andrewbaba44:
They overrate it too much .

They will pick an ekuke epl player over a top please at Ajax Porto and co
Well...Nigerians will prefer to call a player from epl to the national team ahead of those aforementioned clubs.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:01pm On Jul 16, 2022
andrewbaba44:
What point are you making by saying zaidu is on Nigeria bench ?

You guys overrate epl too much
Epl, overrated? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 2:48pm On Jul 16, 2022
andrewbaba44:
cheesy cheesy

See as you hook am for blokus
Person wey don run commot after realizing Chelsea are the current best club in the world via winning FIFA world club cup trophy. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 2:47pm On Jul 16, 2022
TrebleChamp:
Chelsea fans know this to be true, just allow some of them to continue consoling themselves. A club they called dead broke highjacked Raphinha signing, and just iced it with Lewandowski signing. Bayern cheated Barca grin grin
Barcelona gave the impression they were dead broke to get cheaper deals.

Now, breeze don blow, fowl yanch don show.

However, I don't think striker should be Chelsea's main priority. We need defenders and wingers.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 2:29pm On Jul 16, 2022
Taguchi:
your opinion na lie grin grin grin
Who is the current FIFA world club champion? I don remember now. grin

Na lie say Chelsea be number 1 as at this day? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 2:26pm On Jul 16, 2022
Taguchi:
na you dey confuse yourself i never made any assertions, i never rated any team 1st, 2nd or 3rd

you falsely rated Chelsea as the 3rd best team in the world i asked you how and the only reason you could muster was that "Ancellotti said this and that" and i showed you that the Criteria was not consistent with your other two ratings you dey here dey dribble yourself

even if it's your personal opinion, it's still a lie grin

there's no universe that Chelsea is currently in top 3 teams regardless of whichever criteria you use grin
In which universe is Chelsea the current FiFA world club champion? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 2:23pm On Jul 16, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Ask them which is better in getting a 33 year old lewa for 45 million or purchase a younger lukaku aka bag of beans for 100 million
Lukaku was the best player in the Seria A as at the time Chelsea purchased him but he doesn't fit well into our system of play and he wasn't patient enough to learn.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 2:13pm On Jul 16, 2022
Lewandowski na baba. Make anybody no deceive themselves. If Barca bought him for that price dem will recover their money back through endorsement, shirts etc. Na business Barcelona dey do though they are trying to come back to limelight.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by forgiveness: 2:07pm On Jul 16, 2022
Taguchi:
didnt see this earlier

oh they now fifth, i see we are making progress grin
Decipher "in my own opinion." However, if we go by fifa ranking which is above UEFA coefficients ranking, let me remind you Chelsea is the current holder of FiFA world club cup. Rest my guy. grin

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