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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:33am On Mar 15, 2019
Jonraid:
It was some fundraising event at the library!
Okay
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:33am On Mar 15, 2019
tylann:
Yes parents build schools in Kenya
Hence our top notch school infrastructure
Which top notch? You mean the ones built by your colonial master and missionaries? Abegi! grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:23am On Mar 15, 2019
rvp20183:
You Airport link in Abuja carries 400 passengers every day - and it cost 850M dollars. Nairobi is soon getting one - the French just agreed to do it at THEIR OWN COST. We won't spend 850M dollars to carry 400 passengers to the airport.
The Abuja Light Rail System (ALRS) is $1.3 billion because it covers 290km length. The airport link is part of the Phase 1 which is still under construction.

This is totally different from your 2 km airport link.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:50am On Mar 15, 2019
jaycent:
Kenya don't have the money to do that, except they borrow from China again grin poor kenya grin
Hahahaha! But they can't pay back. That's the reason China wan collect their sea port. shocked
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:48am On Mar 15, 2019
rvp20183:
Kenya Gov stopped building school infrastructure I think 1989. Gov supplies teachers, capitation for every student for free education, books and school equipment. The parents mostly build the schools.

Education in kenya is national/federal function exception for pre-primary - where devolved gov ran & build pre-primary/nursery schools.

Parents mostly build schools through "Harambee" - fund raising - with help of CDF (Constitutuency Fund that the Member of National Assembly is the patron) - once in a while national gov has stepped in to build model schools - once in maybe 20yrs.

Anyway most public schools infrastructures are either build through fund raising or CDF fund - including buying of school buses.

Example: Kibera's Mbagathi High school built by CDF. Every MP is given around 1-2M dollars annually for such small projects in his constituency.
https://radiojambo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/school-built-for-kibra-cdf-.jpg

Most of school buses are also funded by CDF
https://www.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/4365316/highRes/1924628/-/maxw/600/-/38ebjyz/-/YellowBus.jpg

But the bulk of kenya basic infrastructure was built through HARAMBEE! Our national motto! Our football team is called Harambee stars! The president office is called "Harambee House".

Most of day schools are called "Harambee" secondary schools because they were build through fundraising.

Harambee - is basically Ubuntu - people of certain area need a school - they organize a fundraising and invite guest - they raise money and start constructing the school.
Na wa ooo. Parents build schools in Kenya.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:40am On Mar 15, 2019
tylann:
Haaaaa ..... Sore loser cool
After surfing through the net I discovered your government has not built one classroom since after independence. What a shame! shocked
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:03am On Mar 15, 2019
68816419:
Lagos light rail projects (Too slow, but surely embarassed embarassed embarassed ) 2021 completed date
Ambode na bad market. He should have completed this project.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:01am On Mar 15, 2019
jaycent:
Attention seekers grin
Exactly! grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:01am On Mar 15, 2019
jaycent:
Let them first get the one first, before we take them serious grin
Exactly! Only Nigeria, South Africa and Morocco have airport rail link in the whole of Africa. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:59am On Mar 15, 2019
tylann:
Those are public schools Google them
Yes! Public schools built by British colonial masters and missionaries. grin

Show me a public school planned, designed, funded and built by Kenya's government. grin

I want to show you something. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:48am On Mar 15, 2019
Ibrahimanees:
So fellow Nigerians. I have a theory. I think I know why Kenyans on this thread just refuse to give up. Attention. Yep you heard that right, they are looking for attention. I saw a Kenyan yesterday on YouTube and he/she? was complaining about how Nigeria and South Africa always overshadow Kenya in Africa. So maybe that's why they are always here on Nigerian matter, taking panadol for our headache. They want attention and it's working. Because I've always assumed Kenya is a state in Tanzania until I discover this thread now I know Kenya is a country, they have counties and not states e.t.c. And they are playing a double game too. Dissing Nigeria and sucking South Africa's d*ick. So I think we should just stop paying attention to them. grin. So my Nigerian peeps whadaya think?
Hmmm! Honestly, Kenya is not a popular as Nigeria. I think, they just needed our attention. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:37am On Mar 15, 2019
Jonraid:
Lights at the Library! cool
Club house. shocked
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:35am On Mar 15, 2019
Kenyanstar:
grin grin grin Because Nigeria has one that is working? grin grin grin Building one or purpoting to have one is totally different from operating or putting it in use. We know from maintenance culture of public resources in Nigeria is worse in the world. grin grin grin grin
Of course, working perfectly well.

Yes, you are right. Nigeria is operating one while Kenya is just purporting one. Now, that is the difference. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:24am On Mar 15, 2019
NairobiWalker2:
It's over Mr. Forgive-me-I'm-an-idiot, I stopped the argument when you couldn't post just a SINGLE public school from Nigeria and instead went around posting photos of American Schools. The Kabarak school photo wasn't meant for the argument but I posted it when Xhosanostra requested for photos outside Nairobi. It's official, Nigerian public schools are trash. Even your international schools can't match Kenya's top public schools.
You have been posting private schools and schools missionary built since bloody liar. There's none built by your government since after independent. angry

You don't have to boast about the sweet of your British lord. Just show me a public school planned, designed, funded and built by your government. That's all. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:17am On Mar 15, 2019
TayserMahri:
Forgiveness and lies is like Boko & Haram grin
What's the lie? I asked him to comment only but you are here accusing me of lying. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:36pm On Mar 14, 2019
NairobiWalker2:
Kabarak High School

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2238/2164862628_d26e59cb9a_o.jpg
Private school. You can lie ooooo.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:29pm On Mar 14, 2019
Kenya's public schools are not good afterall. shocked


Why poor parents in Nairobi choose private over free free primary schools.

By Stephanie Simmons ZuilkowskiFebruary 11, 2018

The numbers of low cost private schools in low and middle income countries have exploded in recent years. These schools charge fees that are affordable to the poorest segment of the population, and often target these populations specifically.

But, in many countries, these schools have been criticized for failing to meet minimum standards set by the government for facilities, infrastructure, and learning materials. There are also claims that they exacerbate inequality because they are not accessible to the poorest children and tend to be located in urban areas, and allow national governments to abandon their efforts to serve poor students.


Kenya is no exception. Evidence suggests that more than half of primary school students in Nairobi attend private schools. This is despite the fact that 15 years ago the government implemented a free primary education programme. So why do poor parents, struggling to support their families, elect to pay school fees when they could send their children to school without paying fees?

One hypothesis is that there are simply not enough public school seats to accommodate children, particularly in densely populated informal settlement areas like Kibera or Mathare.


But research conducted by myself and my colleagues supports another theory: we found that parents make great sacrifices to avoid public schools and place their children in private schools at significant financial cost. The main reason is that parents believe private schools offer better quality education than public schools. Other contributory reasons included perceptions of superiority and that younger parents were more likely to have children in the private schools than older parents.

Private perceptions
We interviewed more than 1,000 parents and head teachers at 93 public and private schools in Nairobi. We asked them about their schooling decisions and what words they would use to describe low cost private schools and public schools.


Low cost private schools were described as being high quality, with harder-working teachers who were consistently present in the classroom. Homework was assigned regularly and teachers were observed by supervisors.

Public schools were described as corrupt, with lazy teachers who were often absent. Survey participants were more likely to describe public school teachers as well-trained, however, and said that the school had many learning materials available. In interviews, some parents also discussed their concerns about social class issues – such as wanting to keep their children away from the “dirty” children in public schools.

Overall, low cost private schools were seen as the better quality choice, when they were available for parents. For eight in ten parents whose children were in them, quality was a strong motivator. For public school parents, quality was a factor for 56%, with affordability of fees and proximity being the next greatest concerns.

Financial sacrifices
On average, having one child in one low-cost private school cost 12% of the income of the household’s main earner. Given that families in the study had on average three children, this is a significant portion of household spending.


Parents in the survey said that, on average, low-cost private school were twice as expensive.

Our study found that low-cost private school were seen by most parents in Nairobi as superior to the local public schools. We also found evidence of a generational change – younger parents were more likely to have children in the private schools than older parents. This could be because younger parents are more likely to be educated themselves, and are therefore more sensitive to school quality.

Some parents indicated the “flexibility” of head teachers in the low-cost private school, since parents were sometimes allowed to pay fees over a period of time as the children continued learning.

Moving forward
Given that the number of educated parents is expected to grow it’s important for the government to engage with low cost private schools as critical components of the education system, rather than as competitors to the public system. The ministry of education has guidelines in place to govern how low cost private schools are registered, which is a welcome step. For example, to register, private schools must meet basic minimum requirements for teacher training and facilities.

Finally, parents need consistent, verifiable information on the available schools in their area including accurate pupil-teacher ratios, literacy and numeracy outcomes data, and pass rates on the Kenya Certificate of Primary Education examinations. Parents should be making decisions about school quality based on accurate learning data rather than on gut feelings and popular perceptions. When a very poor family makes the choice to pay school fees, it is not able to pay for something else, so it’s important to ensure that families making this choice are actually getting a return for their investment.

Benjamin Piper, Senior Director in Africa Education for RTI International, contributed to the writing of this article


https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/africa/1204498/kenyan-parents-pick-nairobi-private-schools-over-public-education/amp/
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:37pm On Mar 14, 2019
NairobiWalker2:
Go to sleep. I've beaten you fair and sqare. It's official, Nigeria has no schools. No wonder most of you here are so foolish.
Bhuhahahaha! Show me schools built by your government. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:35pm On Mar 14, 2019
NairobiWalker:
They have no names? grin grin grin
What do you think? grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:33pm On Mar 14, 2019
mtisTheQubit:
an thats the reason he couldn't provide the name for the school...am beginning to feel like forgiveness is a liar grin
Just allow him pass his comment or you can help him. I want to show you something. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:30pm On Mar 14, 2019
NairobiWalker2:
Stop stealing photos from other countries. Yo mean there are no good schools in Nigeria?
Like you use to steal from Tanzania, ba? grin

Just comment already and let me show you something. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:28pm On Mar 14, 2019
NairobiWalker:
We don't have model schools, we have schools. I already posted you several that are way better than your ugly prison.
You mean those oyinbo built schools? Bhuhahahah

You don't have model and you want to compare yourself with Nigeria. Show me schools built by Kenya government. I want to show you something. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:19pm On Mar 14, 2019
NairobiWalker:
Based on how you lie here, that might even not be a Nigerian school. Give us the name, why do you love lying?
You never knew the names of the schools I posted before you called them box, so what do you want to do with the name of the school before you comment, huh? grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:09pm On Mar 14, 2019
Primary schools in Ondo state.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:59pm On Mar 14, 2019
NairobiWalker:
Give me the name of the school so that I can make my comment by comparing it to Kenyan schools of similar status. grin grin
You don't need to know. Just comment first. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:58pm On Mar 14, 2019
Kenyanstar:
Kenya Railways will work with a French consortium to build a commuter railway line that will run from Nairobi Central Railway Station to Jomo Kenyatta International Airport. The Nairobi Airport Line, one of many projects we are implementing to decongest Nairobi, will greatly reduce travel time between Nairobi CBD and JKIA, and thus augment Nairobi’s role as East Africa’s commercial hub.
Small pikin Kenya just dey start to dey build railway system in the airport. Kkkkkkkkkkkkk grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:56pm On Mar 14, 2019
NairobiWalker:
Please, give us the name of that school. grin grin grin
How do you see the architecture of the building? grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:54pm On Mar 14, 2019
NairobiWalker:
And remember it is apparently a model school. cheesy cheesy cheesy

Even some prisons have better architecture than this. grin grin grin

https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/editor7503701838822748805.jpg
Show me your model schools with boarding facilities like that green building. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:52pm On Mar 14, 2019
XhosaNostra:
A green ogre of a building grin

But I guess it's better than nothing or the so-called private school from yesterday.
To have good looking schools but block heads don't make the school better than the green ogre building with many brainy lads. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:48pm On Mar 14, 2019
XhosaNostra:
Fugly grin
What do you say about this? cool

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 7:55pm On Mar 14, 2019
jaycent:
Ahswear grin Everywhere look like walking dead grin
Na only thing dem sabi be dat. I think we should start taking pictures like them. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 7:51pm On Mar 14, 2019
jaycent:
All there schools look like were Rome they fight war with Egypt grin grin
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! grin
I tell you. grin

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