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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:13pm On Jun 11, 2018
charlesemeka85:
is olayinka better than isaac success,onyekuru,moses simon, samuel kalu? etebo's case is different to that of aluko because he is a part of the team already and rohr knows what he offers the team,also etebo is 22 while alukois approaching 30. ademola only trained with an assembled nigerian side which comprised of uk born nigerians years back and that doesn't put him on the mix.rohr personally approached him in german with a promise of picking him for the world cup but he declined. among those you mentioned its only ojo who have voiced his interest in playing fornigeria but was diplomatic about it. rohr have seen issac succes in close quarters but his fitness is was the major factor why he was left out after playing against senegal
Of course, Peter Olayinka is better than Samuel Kalu and as par with Onyekuru.

Isaac Success and Moses Simon are better.


Where did you get your information from that Rohr promised to take Ademola Lookman to the world Cup?

Onomah too is ready to play for Nigeria. Ask Komekn who sees these players personally.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:07pm On Jun 11, 2018
charlesemeka85:
good point. waiting for this euro born lads to hit stardom before they are approached is not the right step to follow.if we acted fast someone like ademola lookman would been capped when he was still in the english 3rd tier playing for chalton athletic. it will be very difficult to get him now that the english FA have taken notice of his immerse talent. there is another young nigerian making waves in chalton. he is a midfielder and have been likened to spur's dele alli.
That's the point.

I don't know how NFF scouts didn't take note of Ademola Lookman's when he was in the Nigerian team London.

Even our U17 coach was too blind not to see him as a gem.

They just abandoned that team including Ademola Lookman and went for their boys.

It was after the boy started becoming Super star that they reluctantly spoke with him.

I think if Rohr speaks with him, he will change his mind.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:57pm On Jun 11, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Guys, how do you see Joel as LWB? He's naturally left footed and energetic too... and much more experienced that Idowu.

Idowu isn't left footed and that makes him struggle to deliver good crosses... Even using His right foot instead of left
Joel Obi can play well on that wing. That is why I think his inclusion in the team was a good decision.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:54pm On Jun 11, 2018
charlesemeka85:
sone maybe not be washed but i dont see him getting a call up in the nearest future. ademola lookman will be difficult to get since we couldnt lure him even when promised a palace in the world cup team and also he is highly regarded in England and one of the arrow heads in their u21 team. the likes of ojo, onomah etc have to show that they are willing to jump ship and join the nigerian set up(which i believe will be after 2019 euro u21 competition), dessers need to do to something extra ordinary to have get a chance (he is not better than ighalo, iheanancho,and few untested lads like onuachu,awoniyi and sadiq). peter olayinka is a decent player and i have seen him play in the europa league but we have better qualities waiting on the wings. isaac success needs to seek for more playing time in watford or out on loan to be recalled. uche agbo is one player who i believe if given a chance will impress alot of super eagles fans.
If Sone Aluko performs this season, I don't see the reason he should not be called.

So, if he shine pass Etebo in the Championship, Rohr will still ignore him and pick Etebo?

Nigeria never promised Ademola Lookman a place in the world cup. Ademola-lookman was part of team Nigeria one time. Rohr should show the same commitment he had towards those German boys by giving him a call or arranging a meeting with them.

Sheyi Ojo and Onomah are ready to play for Nigeria. Ask Komekn, he will tell you. I say we show commitment and see them commit to play for us.

Nigeria should not show commitment when dem turn Super star finish.

I agree with you on Dessers but we should still continue to encourage him and promise him to play for us once he impresses. That alone shows we care.

Who are those better quality players waiting on wings that are better than Peter Olayinka?

Peter Olayinka is versatile. He can play anywhere in the attack and that's makes him shoulder above his peers.

To be honest, Isaac Success will bench any player apart from Victor Moses anywhere on the wings in our current team in Russia. Fact

He should just remain in the La Liga and continue to improve.

Uche Agbo is good but will have to contend with Mikel Agu.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:31pm On Jun 11, 2018
andrew444:
Okay let me agree with you on chuba akpom

But common how can you say a noah bazee will make the german squad when fit?

Anyway i like your believe but i wont agree with you on noah bazee.
No problem but I don't like the idea he becomes a super star before we start chasing his shadow.

Remember, he is playing in the Bundusliga and the German media rates him.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:25pm On Jun 11, 2018
andrew444:
Chuba akpom and noah bazee should be removed from there.
Chuka Akpom tried in the Belgium pro league. He's picking up.

It seems you don't know Noah Bazee. He is a player when fit will make the German National team.

We should cap him first and wait to see what becomes of him latter.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:16pm On Jun 11, 2018
solonnachi:
After the world cup, we must search out these guys;
Noah Bazee
Ola Aina
Henry Onyekuru
Junior Lokosa
Moses Simon
Abdul Ajagun
Peter Onuahu

Kelechi Nwakali
Umar Mohammed
Stephen Eze
Uche Agbo
Sebastian Osigwe
Ebere Eze
Chuka Akpom
Ryan Sanusi
They are just so much
The bolded players should be searched out based on their performance though I included Sebastian Osigwe because he's a young goalkeeper and we dare need of such. I will also add Dele Alampasu too.


Kayode Olanrewaju, Tega Onomah, Sheyi Ojo, Samuel Kalu, Ademola Lookman, Mikel Agu, Peter Olayinka and Isaac Success, Emmanuel Dennis Bonaventure, Sadiq Umar, Taiwo Awoniyi and Dessers should be searched out.

Most especially Lookman Ademola, Tega Onomah, Ebere Eze and Sheyi Ojo. They are very good and talented players.

They should not be ignored for players.

Sone Aluko has not yet expired to me.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:18pm On Jun 11, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
Why should it not be possible for a Nigerian boy to represent Nigeria? Do u think Alaba happened by magic? By the time he came he was already well known in Europe as a top prospect. The fact is that we made a major error in judgment, we should have at least given him a chance to prove himself. He was given to us on a platter of gold that is the real sickening part to me.
Leave goodjoe made em dey deceive emselve.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:32pm On Jun 11, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
Who do u have in mind?
Of course, Iheanacho is already in the team and he is left footed. Then we have Sone Aluko and Sheyi Ojo who are also left footed.

But they are different in the way they play.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
BascoVanVeli:
He carried his team into La Liga 123. He will be playing in the second tier at worst next season. I have already bowed to the point that he should play U20 first but in my eyes the boy is ready.
Hope his team wins the final playoff match. I could still remember how Peter Nworah and Raheem Lawal singlehandedly carried their team to La Liga 123 from the 4 tier of the La Liga and almost got promoted to the Secunda division which is the second level of la Liga, within the space of 3 years before they were knocked out in the Semi finals playoffs.

Whatabout Ike Anya and Kabiru Akinsola who almost singlehandedly carried their team to the Secunda division when they scored 4 and 13 goals respectively along the line before they were also knocked out in the Semi finals playoffs and even went far in the Copa de Rel before they were knocked out by Valencia.

Not forgetting that Kabiru was bought by Granada after he scored 11 goals the previous season in same la Liga 123 before he was sent on loan where he replicated the same form. Even Ikechi Anya was bought by Granada too but both never kicked a ball before they left.

Ighalo nko! Who singlehandedly carried his Granada team from Segunda B division to Segunda division with 16 goals before he went to Seria A were he didn't get to play the next season though he returned in summer and helped Granada got promotion to the La Liga. But he was not really that good in the La Liga and was never considered for the SE.

My point is, not all Nigerian players that did well in that third tier of la Liga were ready when they climbed up the ladder, and none of these players were considered for the SE despite their blistering form then save Raheem Lawal. So, he should keep working hard. He is still young. Hopefully, his performance in a better league will get him noticed.

Raheem Lawal making the Super Eagles is another story for another day.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:21pm On Jun 10, 2018
DrKlever:
This is still my best formation. if and only if V Moses brings out his A game and play with his team mates, else he should either sit on the bench or play LWB.
This line up killer squad. So good on paper.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:48pm On Jun 10, 2018
I can't imagine Hazard or Neymar sit on the bench because they are selfish.

How I go come take understand Victor Moses sitting on the bench huh

I dey scratch head. undecided
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:26pm On Jun 10, 2018
Sunnypa11:
The best formation for the current Super Eagles is 3-5-2!
With the mentioned formation,Super Eagles held their own and looked unbreakable in the second half against a cruising English National team with some unravelled national treasures.
Francis Uzoho is a done deal for goal while expectedly, William Troost-Ekong and Leon Balogun are important to the defence line.
Joining the 'Oyinbo wall’ is a midfielder in John Ogu,It is very important to note that most of the defenders are right-footed including Kenneth Omeruo and the Israeli based Ogu is also as tall as Croatia striker,Mario Manzukic who will be an aerial threat all night.
Balogun will defend from a comfortable right side of the defence alongside a mobile Tyronne Ebuehi just as Ogu who is very calm in possession will be giving Bryan Idowu a needed assurance from the left.
Wilfred Ndidi will be winning the tackles as Oghenekaro Etebo create an industrious midfield zone to neutralize Luca Modric and Ivan Rakitic.
John Obi Mikel big game stability and experience put him in an advanced and familiar position with lesser defensive duty in yet an important position.
And there comes the mysterious dynamites leading the line together.
Kelechi Iheanacho and Alexander Iwobi both ruined Argentina together in an unimaginable manner in the most fruitful Forty-Five minute of Coach Gernot Rohr.
On display in Russia last November was pace,precised attacking passes,chemistry and top-class decision making.
The aging backline of Croatia could suffer same damage and it must be noted that Iheanacho always enjoy a companionship upfront while Iwobi is magical in freedom and the formation gives the Arsenal youngster the popular suggested advance role infront of Mikel.
SWITCH : John Ogu and Kelechi Iheanacho could both be replaced with Victor Moses and Odion Ighalo to switch back to 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 as the situation may require.

http://www.nigfooty.com/2018/06/super-eagles-most-underrated-mysterious.html
I will just remove Iheanacho for Victor Moses and John Ogu for Omeruo then it could be perfect.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:18pm On Jun 10, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
I think he might be even more important than those guys because we already have right footed wingers but we don't have any left footers. Of course those 3 are already proven players in Europe but he has that it factor that can be seen from a mile away. Like I said I agree with him focusing on U20 for now but I feel the clock is ticking and it should only be a matter of time before he becomes a SE star.
Good he is a left footer but we seriously need a left footer for the SE, is it not better we one of those left footed Nigerians in England eligible to play us?

I think that is better for now.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:58pm On Jun 10, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
The Villareal B team is very talented but u can tell he stands head and shoulder above everyone of them. From wat I have been seeing lately the boy is ready for the SE but i believe we have enough talent that can afford him the time of going to the U20 wc before making the main team.
I don't think he is ready for the SE. He should make the main Villareal team or a team in la Liga before he should be considered for the SE. This is because Segunda B division is the 3rd tier of la Liga and I can give you many Nigerian players who performed magic in that league but could not make it to the top due to some factors, and even when they made a step or two steps up couldn't perform.

Forget! This is just a league for feeder teams. Hope his team gain promotion to the Secunda division and he gets to perform there too.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:54pm On Jun 10, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
Alaba also made his debut for the Austrian National team before he played for the [main team of Bayern]. Not our fault in any way.

Can't you read that I wrote main team of Bayern? It clearly shows I was pointing out he was already at Bayern but had not played for their main team.

Finito.
Dey deceive yaself.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:50pm On Jun 10, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
It was a slip. Wiki clearly stated that Alaba was in Bayern Munich B team when he was called up. It was a slip in writing. I[b] wonder where I claimed to follow the event that laid to the callup. That will be a bloody lie, [/b] even if you claimed so. I knew Alaba after he broke into Van Gaal's squad and that was about 2009/2010, being a Van Gaal fan. So I followed Bayern then.

When I saw Alaba, my beef was clearly with Samson Siasia then. I felt he should have earned the U20 left back role in the 2009 WYC. I later found out he was called up to the National team of Austria. So I knew Austria was well ahead of us and I can not go blaming any body.

Alaba's history is not some hidden issue. That Google will fail. His career is literally on Wiki.
Since you didn't follow, why you come dey argue with person wey know?

A pointer to the fact that you just want argue blindly. EOD
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:46pm On Jun 10, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
Growing up in Austria and being a part of one of the best academies, if not the best academy in Austria, gave Austria the leverage to monitor Alaba. Keep in mind, Alaba also played in the age grade levels for Austria, which is another advantage.

Austria Wein does not have that popularity like academies like Arsenal, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, Manchester United, Manchester City etc. Even teams like Atletico Madrid, PSG, Juventus have more popularity than Austria Wein. Heck, how many stars do I know that came from that academy.

So Alaba lacked the popularity growing as a player to convince us to give him a Super Eagles callup at the time Austria called him. I did not say he was Called up while in Austria Wein.

By the way, the bolded in the quote clearly States my point.


Alaba also made his debut for the Austrian National team before he played for the main team of Bayern. Not our fault in any way.




[b][/b]

Gerrit?
Stori.

Google has failed you when you thought Alaba was an Austrian Wien’s player as at the time he was capped by Austrian National team.

Stop pretending you followed his development prior to his debut for Austria national team. EOD
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:35pm On Jun 09, 2018
edi287:
Not at first...only came around a few years ago. Seeing his buddy Iwobi shining has no doubt swayed him even more.
Yeah! I remember now.

Actually, I thought he is talking about now.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:29pm On Jun 09, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
[color=#000099]That is the problem when you quote without reading. I clearly stated that Alaba was not in the main team of Bayern Munich when he was called up to the Austrian National team. Then you went on to make up a fake statement of me saying he was in the Austria Wein team.

Please read what you quote next time.

I said,

ALABA WAS CAPPED WHEN HE WAS NOT IN THE BAYERN MUNICH MAIN TEAM.

Saying he was in the team B of Bayern proves my point.

Austria could call him because he goes through their system, playing in their junior National teams and also being part of the biggest club in Austria.

Very simple point.

Gerrit?
TheGoodJoe:
Alaba was popular in media but not enough to merit a Super Eagles call up. Iwobi was not 17 when he debuted for us. So I wonder why you are bringing that up. Also an Arsenal academy player has more popularity than an Austria Wein player. Alaba also made his debut for the Austrian National team before he played for the main team of Bayern. Not our fault in any way.
Who was the Austria Wein player that Arsenal academy is popular than?

Dey decieve yaself.

You didn't follow the event that led to his cap by the Austrian National team. FACT

GOOGLE don fail you. grin EOD
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:20pm On Jun 09, 2018
ChrisKels:
Lol Chuba Akpom now keen on representing Nigeria after it is done on him that England opportunity is a far cry? Well, I welcome him if he could raise his game.
Chuba had always wanted to play for Nigeria.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:40pm On Jun 09, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Make de two of una kukuma go court go judge de matter na. I go provide lawyer.
grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:39pm On Jun 09, 2018
Goke7:
Chai you can argue o even evidence against your argument is staring you in the face.
which evidence?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:38pm On Jun 09, 2018
tglobal:
My comparison was with Westerhoff, who is the only other coach to have achieved what Keshi achieved..... and he was never owed money FACT

No other coach comes close

The bolded shows he deserves all the credit for his success
ok. I don hear but I no gree. grin

Pls take note that I never disputed his ability as a coach but his mago mago ways.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:17pm On Jun 09, 2018
tglobal:
What saved his job was the victory over CIV. FACT

Herve Renhard was already approached to take over his job. FACT

It was his resignation stunt after the victory that got him on Jonathan's side. FACT

Despite Jonathan's support, he was still owed and his backroom staff fired against his wishes FACT
It doesn't change the fact that Keshi directly received support from President Jonathan. FACT

Besides, NFF gave him free hands to choose his players going to the AFCON. FACT

Which Oyinbo coach past NFF never owe money?

Even Rohr self was owed money. FACT
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
TheGoodJoe:
Alaba was popular in media but not enough to merit a Super Eagles call up. Iwobi was not 17 when he debuted for us. So I wonder why you are bringing that up. Also an Arsenal academy player has more popularity than an Austria Wein player. Alaba also made his debut for the Austrian National team before he played for the main team of Bayern. Not our fault in any way.
Did Iwobi play for the main Arsenal team before he made his debut for Nigeria?

Who told you Alaba was an Austria Wein's player when he made his debut for Austria National team?

It is very you know nada about the situation then because you never followed it. You are just relying on GOOGLE. grin

Alaba made rave because he was in Bayern Munich second team and trained with the first team as at the time he made his debut for the Austrian National Team. GBAM. EOD

Google don fail you this time around. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:56pm On Jun 09, 2018
tglobal:
Jonathan's support came after AFCON title. FACT

if the bolded is true, why accuse him of improper player selection?
No! it was during the tournament. Fact.

Because the bench was jam packed with efulefu players while he destroyed the national football career of some players.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:53pm On Jun 09, 2018
Oasis007:
grin

This is becoming Drama...... LOL! You volunteer yourself as a Witness, he asked for the Evidence, you couldn't present the Evidence coz you are too lazy to dig out for it.

Alas! You come into Conclusion that he's a Liar - another Allegation?! LMAO!

You know in a competent Court of Law, your Testimony is DOA?! Besides you've committed Perjury?!
Hahahahaha! see me see trouble oooo. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:51pm On Jun 09, 2018
Martz101:
this guy go sabi lie o
LMAO. hahahahhahha!

Abeg no kill me here.

I was never against the invitation of any FB including Iwobi and I can boldly tell you that 98% of monikers in this thread and the other thread BOLDLY AGAINST the idea of FB players who have not distinguished themselves in their clubs be given a call to the National team which I agured against.

That was where I started having arguments and disputes against majority of them here.

Ebuehi and Brian where players 98% of this monikers fought against me when I first brought them to the attention of this thread.

So, why should I against what I fought for?

Maybe this days, I don tire for such scouting because I can see some doing the good job hence my retirement from scouting FB. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:38pm On Jun 09, 2018
Martz101:
it won't be easy to dig that out
Den you don't have a case. Case closed. EOD
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:34pm On Jun 09, 2018
tglobal:
Only two coaches in the in the history of Nigerian football have won both the nations cup and taken us to the second round of the world cup FACT (as forgiveness will say)

One took five years to achieve the feat, the other took 2. FACT

One had the support of the 2nd citizen of the land, the other achieved his feat despite limited support from his employers,sometimes without pay. FACT!

One did it with the best African players on Europe, the other did it with relatively unknown players (definitely not the best in Africa and not the best in Nigeria as you are quick to point out). FACT!

Which one of the two was the better coach? EOD

Please tell us why this coach should not be revered and give us the names of those who have achieved more for the national team with the same resources at their disposal? FACT

cc:forgiveness
Those two bolded points are factually not correct. grin

President Jonathan was behind Keshi. Fact

Are Mikel, Onazi, Echiejile, Ike Uche, Emenike, Ideye, Victor Moses etetera relatively unknown players? I don't think so. Fact
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:34pm On Jun 09, 2018
tglobal:
Only two coaches in the in the history of Nigerian football have won both the nations cup and taken us to the second round of the world cup FACT (as forgiveness will say)

One took five years to achieve the feat, the other took 2. FACT

One had the support of the 2nd citizen of the land, the other achieved his feat despite limited support from his employers,sometimes without pay. FACT!

One did it with the best African players on Europe, the other did it with relatively unknown players (definitely not the best in Africa and not the best in Nigeria as you are quick to point out). FACT!

Which one of the two was the better coach? EOD

Please tell us why this coach should not be revered and give us the names of those who have achieved more for the national team with the same resources at their disposal? FACT

cc:forgiveness
Those two bolded points are factually not correct. grin

President Jonathan was behind Keshi. Fact

Are Mikel, Onazi, Echiejile, Ike Uche, Emenike, Ideye, Victor Moses etetera relatively unknown players? I don't think so. Fact

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