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stephenmorris:
AgentOfAllah,such an intelligent agent of a god that doesn't exist.I used to be scared of your moniker before I became irreligious,I pondered in my heart why will a man call himself an agent of Allah,if he is not an Islamic extremist tracking down blasphemers on nairaland.lol

But as time flew and my beliefs evolved,I read more of your posts and I found out that you are a freethinker and atheist.

You really served this so-called genius wisdom,that's if he will choose wisdom.Your responses are legendary.

His response are not only legendary, they are perfect. Always look out for his mentions on this section. Unfortunately he comes in once in a while like Johnny.

iamgenius:
I jumped to his level of understanding.

He raised about three important point from your op, which u failed to address. Address them and stop trying to turn this thread into another circular argument like the thread spacetacular created.
Don't insult his intelligence by saying u are coming down to his level. He is obviously more intelligent than u and u are yet to give direct answer to his response.

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decentmother1:
COULD GOD BE SEEKING YOUR ATTENTION? WATCH THIS WORD VISION 2MINS SHORT FILM TITLED "ATTENTION" BY WALE APOTIERI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRMQ3cEF2Qg

Lol... Stop making your God sound like a baby in need of attention

iamgenius:
Did U create yourself?

lol... you just jumped all the points he raised without even attempting to refute them only to ask this senseless and irrelevant question

Amberon11:
Wherever you take your delusions is not my business as long as its away from here.

Moreover you just further proved our assertions that atheism is baseless, empty and can't stand on its own. That's why yall need to bash religious people to feel good about yourselves. Atheism itself is a breeding ground for trolls.

U ain't even seen anything yet. Soon Jesus will join u in crying

Amberon11:
Hypocrites. Like y'all aren't the same ones who curse God and turn around to say he is inexistent. Doesn't that reek of mental disorder?

Oh, and what else do y'all do? Post memes against religion when you have nothing to say? Lol

If I think God really exists do you think I will curse him? Cursing your God idea like he is real is the only way to prove to you he does no exist. But instead of your none existent God to come and slap me for insulting him, you will be in your room getting all frustrated for him.

Another time wasting technique is saying you can only Understand God/Bible with spiritual eyes. Meanwhile person way de claim spiritual is as ordinary as every other human, husling, answering sir to another fellow human just to make ends meet.

Whenever spacetacular starts correcting your English, know that she has been defeated

And such nonsense statement puts money in his account? Damn, how did I miss my calling?

tiger28:
i have a question for you pls though i am not too religious. Look at the human and animal anatomy , see the complexity and intelligence behind it. The fish have gills to breath in water,the birds have wings to fly, our own organs. Are you telling me that planets collided and created all these complexities??All these examples show me that there is a super intelligent creator . Beyond a doubt!

He is not telling you that the planets collided it, rather the origin of life on earth or the planet itself remains a mystery. Stop assuming up a God or creator because of this bridge in knowledge. You can't create a God to fill in a void and it suddenly becomes real.

bennyann:
Is there anyone you know you dare not question? Is there anyone, at least one person like that you dare not disrespect? If yes, then who do you think you are to question God?

Who really are we to question God? A God in charge of the air we breathe, in charge of our thinking faculty and anything else that make us feel relevant, beyond anyone else.

What right do you think you have to dictate for Him? What level of existence do you operate in that you feel you can tell Him what and not what to do? A mere man who sleeps and knows not what happen around him during those moment but only to wake up and question God as though God operates in his level.

You who can't stop yourself from sleeping, from eating, from thirst, who can hardly control your reflex actions, what makes you think you can question God?

You who can't recreate yourself or create someone like you, You this worm, this clay, how can you boldly stand up to your creator? What level of intelligence do you have that you think you have the guts to stand up to God?

You say who is God? He is your creator.
A creator who was not created, I mean He has no creator. A creator who was, who has been before time, before the world began, before creation. Our creator has no beginning and ending of days. He is the only one who knew us before we were formed in our mother’s womb, the one who knows the number of hairs on your head, the one who knows your thoughts even before you carry them out, the one who gives you life and air to breathe. 

And you know what? He is just one kind, I mean there is none like Him. He is the one who without Him nothing was made that has been made.

So how dare you question Him? I am not saying you shouldn't question Him, but what right do you have to question Him?

This one has finally gone mad

felixomor:
Sorry this is not atheism section?
Unless you want to admit that you are obsessed?

If you want to admit, no problem.

Your stupid logic has fallen flat on your face. Next time think before you talk

Amberon11:
Lol...you seem to like shifting goal post.

This is about Christians and atheists, not Christians and other religious adherents. That is a whole other topic entirely.

The point is atheism is not a religion. Why are you atheists in the religious section insulting and deriding Christianity?

If you were not here insulting Christians, Christians won't insult you. One thing always leads to another.

Athesits are of the view that Religion is a scam. Where else do you expect them to expose Religious lie, in romance section?

felixomor:
Op The answer is simple,

Most of them know that their ideology is foolishness.
They only come here to fight with their conscience.

That is why they are chained.
They cant resist threads on God, especially Christian Threads.

You will never see them latching on islam section or native doctor threads like that.

Does this mean that Christians like you and ebuka who take pleasure in mocking atheists also know that your ideology is foolishness and only come here to fight with it conscience?

How many times have u latched on Islam

spacetacular:
The one who has been a buffoon has been you lot whose thinking processes shut down and switch to ridicule as a disguise for actual thinking when it comes to scriptures yet you all claim to be free thinkers.

Ya right... Everyone can see how free ur mind has ran. U have succeeded in letting it run out of ur dear Bible.

I believe you have a father who may be over 70. The lifestyle and technology he sees and enjoys today was it available in his earlier years?
At his old age has he ignored PRESENT technology? Is he not TAKING ADVANTAGE of it?

So? And who is arguing this with u. We are still waiting for u to answer if u think there is a possibility Christ could come this month or not.

Man is God's creation and all that man needed to live and thrive was put in man at creation. So all of the tech we see today are simply an expression of man's already given ability to thrive. God did not give man that ability for no reason you know.

No one is asking u this... Answer the question

Man is to work for Himself (comfort) and for God (purpose). Technology is for a PURPOSE and yes God would take advantage of it since it was his plan all along when he put this ability in man.

So while man is indirectly working for God. We can say that since God is waiting for man to pave the way for him, Christ cannot come before the end of this year. Should we quote u?

Why would man even want to have global viewing capabilities? Why would they have that desire even in them? Were they doing badly when they were alone?

I just got it wise one! They are building the technology for everyone to see Jesus coming from the sky. So with this,do u still think he can possibly come tomorrow?

In Genesis 1:28 God's instruction to man regarding the earth was Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth

Physical fruitfulness, mental fruitfulness and material fruitfulness. All we are seeing is simply in accordance with God's words to him.

Continue ur irrelevant sermons pastor.

Technology is a product of man's MENTAL FRUITFULNESS which is for GOD'S PURPOSE.

Ya whenever man acheived something good it's God's fault, but when the same technology results in something bad, it's man's fault.
But I will not let u distract me on the main issue. So with technology being God's purpose, do u think Christ can possibly come Tomorrow?

Your words are the words of someone who pretends and deceives himself into believing he is a rational being when his rationality is bereft of common sense or cohesion.

Only foolish Children speak the way you do.

I agree... Just answer the question with a yes or no. Let me help u... You can say yes but...., Or no but....

spacetacular:
It's called common sense and actual critical thinking.

Scripture doesn't have to spell out everything for you does it? Should it also tell you when to go take a piss, how, where and what to use?

So you actually think the 9/11 attacks wasn't beamed live? My God!

I remember and know that on BBC and CNN it was clearly said "This is the live footage as events unfold".

When the 2nd plane hit the tower it was LIVE.

when the first and second towers came crashing down it was LIVE

When the fire raged at the Pentagon after the 3rd Plane Crashed into it, IT WAS LIVE.

say something else.

It's unfortunately that u are shamelessly running ur mouth all over the place and priding yourself of having more sense than Everyone.

The scriptures does not spell out every thing for you but left u and every single Christian out the a whole big puzzle to figure it out any way your minds wants.

Now you are here making ridiculous assumption that Christ could possibly be seen by the whole world via visual technology yet you cannot answer a simple question on weather it is possible for him to come today/tomorrow or not. You know if u answer your theory will fall flat on ur face.

So according to u, Christ will not come except everyone has access to visual technology, this means Jesus will not come within the next 6months.

This is what happens when a foolish person runs around claiming to be wiser than everyone. You have interpreted the so called Almighty Bible like it's a comic book.

And to think that Christ coming is dependent on man's technology? U must be a huge joke. No wonder he has been waiting for man to build visual technology for him for over 2000 years. Why wouldn't he just appear miraculously and make it possibly for everyone one to see him up in the sky from everywhere?

My dear concentrate on accident victims. Bible interpretation is not ur area of specialization. Stop fooling urself here.

lepasharon:
The ppl in the Amazon forest tho.. What they gone do?

Using visual technology to explain the whole world seeing Jesus appear in the sky is the most stupid thing holy spirit has revealed to anyone since I have been on Nairaland.
The theory is cheap and dubious. Lol Jesus is waiting for the advancement of technology. He can't develop his own spiritual divine technology ... Chai, Nairaland no go kill me

hopefulLandlord:
obviously, it was a Catch-22 for her, that's why she kept trying intimidation tactics and browbeating, and throwing insults; she doesn't know me enough to know those don't work on me and I'll simply ignore those to focus on the discussion

Lol....she pounced out of her medic van like she was going to make the most intelligent point, describing the abstract meaningless theory on how Jesus's arrival can be shown to the whole world via television or YouTube. Then she forgot, that according to Christians Jesus could even appear while we are still on this discussion which will mess up her theory becasue at the moment so many people do not have access to such technology.
And when you asked her if it was possible for Jesus to come today or not she started preaching long irrelevant sermon. You are lucky she didn't event try attacking your English just to distract you from trapping her.

hopefulLandlord:
still no answer...........

There is a reason why she will not answer...she, even Felixomor had to dodge and not help her out.

If she says yes, then her foolish theory on everybody seeing Jesus on television will fall flat on her face. Yet she claimed she was wise when she was busy propounding the television theory

spacetacular:
And when did I say anything about TODAY? you were the only one HARPING on today.

That news report proves that EVENTUALLY all would be able to see a singular event in time.

Now are you actually thinking deep enough to draw an inference from this regarding your question?

Lol... You are actually a very silly girl.

TrapHedges:
Lol old. Man with big head
No go marry.. DE here DE mumu

If u have ever sat down to look deep into your life, you know this is unnecessary. You need moments of deep reflection bro... If not u will spend the rest of ur life saying unnecessary things.

EnigmaticEnigma:
Hanabian, so would it have been better if we were never created

Or, created without free will

What would you have lost if you have never been created?

Babies who die through miscarriage, what do u think they lost?

ifenes:
This is really interesting. I am happy to see people who think outside the box with upgraded minds. All humans are the same but all do not vibrate at the same frequency.

All mobile phone can primarily make calls and send text messages but you cannot expect the 3310 Nokia to carry out the unique functions of an iPhone 7. In fact the vintage Nokia fone will argue that it is not possible to do a video call simply because it cannot do it or imagine such possibility. This is what goes on in the human world. Logic is limited and those governed by logic alone are prone to sever ignorance. They want evidence they can see with their limited foresight. It is not impossible to explain a 3 dimensional theory to a 1 dimensional being.

Once upon a time I joined an "Atheist" whatsapp group chat via naira land. Honestly I have never met such extreme ignorant minds as I did on there They claim to be "free thinkers" but will not consider the possibility of a parallel universe or possibilities of existence of higher dimensions. They were always quick to debunk. They crave debunking anything contrary to their views. Such mindsets are enslaved to science and Charles Dawkins just as Christians are to the false interpretations of the bible

Felixomor, can u thank God for his life too?

felixomor:
Thank God for your life Op,
Remain blessed....

Atheism is dead logic.
More people in the world are now seeing it.

Why are you thanking God for his life... Does he even sound like u? Your God that you are ignorantly thanking will still put him in hell for not believing in him.

spacetacular:
I have been noticing OP being used a lot here. What does that mean?

And Felixomor liked this post where she asked a simple question. And anyone thinks this guy is not an immbeccile?

KingEbukasBlog:
Leave her alone

She only wants Christian brothers

And that Christian brothers is u?

Well, incase you win her heart, the right hole is down between the legs and not her mouth.

intrepidJ:
For over a year he was more or less my PA..I showered him with generosity, I paid his school fees thrice, he got used to living well from my finances. When I stopped not sure he handled it well. In his feeble mind someone else had taken his place. From feeling rejected it morphed into envy, jealously then rage. I never seen to go down financially no matter how they tried. A civilised man will let it go and try to work hard to be successful. A primitive man, like most Nigerians will become consumed with rage and hatred. How do I know? His attempted attack was bad enough but nothing exemplified his hatred than when I began receiving texts messages link this :

I HATE YOU
I HATE YOU
I HATE YOU

Coming not from a girl or ditched girlfriend but from a guy. Can you imagine the kind of hatred he must have been consumed with to send this kind of messages. Now I don't care what people say, they can call me nuts or crazy, truth is stranger than fiction. If you become successful and stop hanging out with people you used to hang out with you become a target. They will hate you, gossip a boy you, plot your downfall. They will provoke you into action so they can use it as a pretext to teach you a lesson. Physically, spiritually...that is the heart of some people, Such people never achieve success in life because of this propensity to hate those above you.. You are Nigerian, you know deep down What I'm saying is true,

u still dont get it... what are you doing with such a guy. Your story does not add up. why did u stop paying his school? why did you even start paying his school fees? who is he to u? there more to this story.

@ mumu op, you even have the mouth to declare death on someone, but recall you have been running helter skelter dodging from your enemies for the past 2 years... why ddnt you declare death on them... he he, you have the power and you are running for your life.

TheEminentLaity:
You are even more dense than I thought The fruits of your education is only exhibited here by your elaborate writing but your mind and head is fücked up. You are crazy, really. Feel free to send your proclamation/prophecy my way as you won't or is it can't die this year.
You see the difference with you religious nutters is that you readily have in mind to kill your 'enemies' but are just too much of cowards to actually do the work.

If I want you to die before November this year, I certainly know the moves to make and the last thing would be to pray about it except I don't want it to happen.

Let's look at what Christ says about murderers. Is it the one that has killed or has it in mind to kill or are they just one and the same?

10 Then he called the crowd to him and said to them, “Listen and understand: 11 it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but it is what comes out of the mouth that defiles.” ...“Are you also still without understanding? 17 Do you not see that whatever goes into the mouth enters the stomach, and goes out into the sewer? 18 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile.” (Matt 15:10-19)

So even according to your faith, you are a murderer and would be condemned eternally How loving?

The guy is a dunce... he wants to ask the angels to kill you for making a simple statement but when his own enemies whom he had defrauded tries to kill him he starts running up and down... and suddenly his killer angels are his saviour.

intrepidJ:
It's apparent you flunked common sense in school. Its 2017 , im telling about events that happened in 2015. READ. I moved out December 2015. Before you open your mouth and spill crap I give you an hour to apologises. If you do not I decree it is your time to die this year. You can call my bluff, if you do not apologise and retract that sensless post I will make a pronouncement your remain days in Earth won't exceed November this year.

And this is supposedly coming from a nice guy who has never hurt anyone. This is coming from someone who does not have the ability to feel angry.

you are obviously a cultist or yahoo yahoo guy. There is not way some touts would want to hurt you by all means. Imagine they came after you with guns and then decided to use diabolical mean... But the big question is: What did you do to them and what are u doing with such people after painting yourself a nice guy?

And pls shut the f--k up, u cannot make any nonsense declaration that can kill anyone... stop exposing you foolishness here.

intrepidJ:
Continuation.

.....So I boarded a taxi to my friends place. After narrating my story he gave me this "I told you so grin". He recounted the number of days he's visits me and seen these guys at my place. He always said avoid these people, hey flock around you because of what they can gain, free these guys, they are not on your class. in his words

" guy, wetin these men dey find for your house set. These guys n.a. Viki men, you no be injuce man, no dey roll with these kind people.


Now I found these comments rather prejudiced and all but in discriminatory back then.

So i stayed at his place for three days, in those three days I was bombarded with threatening messages on my whatsap."why you run, you for stay and see wether I no go pursue you from this town. If you get mind come your house "

Three days later I decided I was gonna go back home, get some cloths, some money I kept at my wardrope and my shoes. On getting home met some fetish stuffs t my door mouth. Someone had cut open one of my Pam sandals and placed a blade on it, I decided to take the back door in, I met the same thing. I got inside and to my horror my house has been turned upside down. Ripe plantains that got rotten and my dustbin was spalletered on my couch. My couch was torn open with razor blades, my glass dinning was broken, my expensive wall paintings were destroyed, my glass stool, curtain rails. I discovered also the money I kept In the wardrope and my laptop computer was gone too. My horror changed to anger, I felt a burning rage I never thought I could possibly feel. The feeling of anger and rage felt so good, I wanted to remain angry, I was emotionally worn out. I cleared the mess and stayed put, who wants to kill me should come.

All through that day I was haunted by the weird objects at my doorstep. I decided against touching it and called a pastor I met a week ago when he came to evangelize nd ask me to become member, followed up my never ending calls. After narrating the story he was more concerned about my joining his church than saying anything meaningful. Now a couple of days past I received an SMS alert from the guy, apologising and asking me to forget the past. Well of course by this time I actually haboured no ill feeling, I have a hard time holding grudges for up to 72 hours.

Weeks went by nd things got back to normal, I started stupidly again playing good guy, assisting them when in need until something happened. On this day I picked up the brother of this guy, we were going to my house to watch a Chelsea game. Upon entering my compound I switched off the ignition and right there my keys vanished.

I repeat

I switched off the ignition and immediately could not find my keys. I did not step out of the car much less opened the door yet I was crazy enough to open my gate and search the house even though I had not gotten out the car. For three days I searched in vain. 3 good days. Then one morning on my way out the gate to my surprise I saw my car keys on the drivers sit. I was stunned beyond belief, it made no sense but I was all too happy, it saved me N40k as I had called someone to help change the lock.

The torment and haunting began when one evening I saw my leather dashboard had been sliced through with a blade. From that night on I had nightmares, in my dream I was being chased by a snake. Now this wasn't just some random dream. Every night I had that same exact dream. Every night for over a week. Also I noticed when I ever I step into my house I have this uneasy feeling, its hard to describe in words. If I step out I am fine, but the moment I step in I start getting depressed. Every appliances in ,y house started developing faults, my generator, I bought 2 brand new gen in under two months, my cars, my fridge...and also this strange smell. I was no longer the happy smiling guy people knew, I was always sad. The container of goods my mom sent was held up and bogged down with issues.I starts noticing people who normally enjoyed being with me keep their distances.Now it should be noted, at this stage I had not attended any church service for over 2 years...he not an exaggeration.

The first major attack happened late November. I got a call from this guy asking If he could use my washing machine, he was brining his cloths to my house..I said sure. He came with two of his brother's which I found odd but shrugged off. Later that evening when they were long gone I noticed this big gold ring on my glass stool. Now this was no ordinary ring, it was big. Why would anyone wear something this big. I dropped the ring and decided later that night I'll drive down and return it. I forgot.

At about 07:15 the next morning I heard the bell ring, it was my neighbour. She wanted to go out and needed me to drive out as my car was behind hers. There was also anothe car behind mine so I got into my car nd waited for her to drive out, as she did no sooner had I put the gear on reverse did I see from my rear view mirror the same car hurtling back into the compound with speed. This may sound weird but I stayed frozen. I could see it coming, in slow motion but I just froze....then impact. I was wearing sit belt and was just on my briefs...the force nearly threw me towards the windscreen. The back of the car was smashed to pieces with some sole billowing from the back. Her car was also badly damaged. In stunned disbelief she came out and began to cry. Now this girl has been driving years before I bought my first car, she is no learner but I could tell she was having a hard time making sense of what just happened. Neighbours came around..you know the usual pandemonium.

Now the car was badly damaged , but what stunnedme more was the lack of rage or anger I felt. Even worse I felt sorry for her. She offered to give me her keys but I declined. What's wrong with me? Why am i not mad at her? Thankfully the car could still move. I drove the car out the gate, called my mechanic, gave the keys to my neighbour to give to him when he arrived then went back to my room and collapsed on my bed in defeat.

Barely 30 minutes later I heard the bell again. I was irritated this time cos I was beginning to enjoy my sleep, it was a welcome getaway fro, the chaos all around me. When i opened the door to my surprise I was greeted to the sight if a middle aged lady with a bible and an MFM sticker on it. I beckoned her to come in. Now my name is Fred, everybody knows me as Fred but I have a native name which I need not disclose here. She addresed me by my native name which got me startled. She explained she had been here the night before but was told nobody with that name resides here. She decided to try again this morning, this time describing me in some detail.

Now by this time the car has being taken to the mechanic, i was also getting agitated, weeks prior my experience with a man of God had proven to be a waste of time. But her opening remark dispelled that agitation, it was immediately replaced by fear. My heart was racjng and i was visibly shaken. How do i know? she p,eaded with me tk calm down for 5 minutes .She was blunt and to the point. She said God sent to me with a message. The message was ..quoting her verbatim

" The Lord asked me to tell you that an event will take place today concerning your car, but you should not be worried. God is making this event happen you will not step out of your house today. You have been marked by people. God will prevent you from leaving so that you will not be marked. Your blood has been demanded, today is the day but God has chosen to spare your life because you are from a good family". She further explained that I should not drive for seven days, even after the car is fixed I should still not enterthecar until the car is cleansed by a man of God.

Needless to say I was stunned, the nightmare was back, when is this gonna end? Low and behold an hour later I got a call from this guy asking If I was okay.

I'll post the concluding part of my experience I little while. Its 5:04 pm as of this writing. I have a pressing engagement but will be back shortly. Everything I have said is nothing but the truth.

Why does this guy want to harm u so badly? What did you do to him?
Why have u decided not to answer this question?

opezeroy:
Lol...
Sir, u said something about HOPE.
The real hope u have in your counciousness is the faith we are talking about..
But i'm very sure u know if you dont enter your car to drive, the car will never change position?
So therefore, definitely there's a controller of this activities that are not controlled by human, and the controller is the SUPREME BEING(GOD).
And all we are saying is that you come his KNOWLEDGE[/b]whis is; the [b]KNOWLEDGE of TRUTH
Left to u sir
I rest my talk on this issue sir......
Thanks

Just imagine the nonsense u are saying... Abeg carry ur mumuness and go