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MaxInDHouse:
So what you are demanding is your own standard or yardstick not found in God's word!

They always said "... through our Lord and Savior Jesus", which JW never do.
The concept of thanking Jesus is present and encouraged throughout scriptures. Early Christians constantly expressed gratitude to Jesus for his sacrifice and salvation.

MaxInDHouse:
What is the religion of the person you are quoting so we can learn from his church?
Thank you!

He's obviously a Christian like you, but obviously doesn't belong to a cult group like JW

MaxInDHouse:
Ha!
Your problem is complicated!

Who is demanding such from you?

Are you not the one claiming Jehovah's Witnesses must say something to prove they believe in Jesus?

So you're the one who should present a scenario where what you're demanding was made compulsory not the other way around!

Just to show you not everything has to be verbatim.
People obviously implicitly thanked Jesus in the Bible.
Point is, we know JW are far from Jesus-centric, quite the opposite. That's why you sound so fake

Sand2022:
I agree, it is impossible for us to define His nature. Trinity is the best effort at doing that, but it is not perfect.

EXACTLY!
Maxindhouse come get some education, you and Janosky!

Emeskhalifa:
Good for him.

Omor the way that gender be looking for how to drag man to the mud eh.

If you're a man have self control, few minutes enjoyment (I no even see enjoyment wey dey there aside stress and drain wey e dey drain man) can lead you into serious trouble

Not just self control, don't be alone with a girl minor that's not your blood or you could be blackmailed

MaxInDHouse:
You see the problem you have now?

Instead of focusing on what Jesus taught and commanded his disciples to do you are agitating on what some religionists infused in your mind.

OK prove that what you are demanding from Jehovah's Witnesses is practiced by Christians in the Bible by quoting a verse where any believer in the Bible said:

"thank you Jesus"

After his departure!

Quote a verse where they said
"Thank you Jehovah God" as JW always say.
He's just an angel to you folks, just another messenger like Moses, so why your pretentious focus on him on this forum.
You don't realize it, but it sounds so fake!

So let's await the sentence

davies:
God save him.
He won't be spending long time behind bar like his colleague Robert Kelly.
Now the life of all those that testify against him will be under constant threat..

He still has other lawsuits against him including underage sex like Kelly

MaxInDHouse:
You are just deceiving yourself with false reasoning because you don't know what you are saying yet you keep arguing blindly.

First of all you and your other friend tctrill are atheists but both of you don't know it.

An atheist is not just someone who claims to be atheist rather it's someone who doesn't trust any source of guidance other than his or her own mind hence he will never bow to anything that has to do with collective responsibility towards any deity.

OK you claim that Jesus is the I AM in the Old Testament and many of your friends say the same thing but what do you guys agreed as collective responsibility towards Jesus whom you people call your God? Each of you just mimick the slogan "Jesus is Lord" and off you go with nothing binding you and your fellow so called believer on what Jesus ordered as assigned duty for his disciples {Matthew 7:21-23} instead each of you just practice whatever you wish not in an organized manner as Jesus commissioned the work! Matthew 15:7-9

The one and only organized people who are unitedly doing something worthwhile claiming Jesus ordered them you called "CULT" {Matthew 10:24-25} but where is the WORK of this your professed FAITH?
Nothing to show for it! James 2:18-26

I can tell you confidently that there is no atheist on this forum who doesn't know me because i always tell them that some of them are just claiming atheists but are confused believers while many atheists are claiming believers.

A BELIEVER is someone who trusts a source of guidance so he will always try to encourage others to think along that same line of thought in order to solve some problems facing mankind or his own race.

An ATHEIST is someone who doesn't trust or believe in any source of guidance he is hopeless as regards what has to do with collective responsibility towards achieving anything positive in the lives of his fellow human so he only believes himself and nothing more.

Now prove that you are not an atheist by presenting a group of people that you agree with to work for Jesus and how you people are organized in doing the work.

Please let me see the work of your faith in this your I AM.

I'm embarrassed for you using the name "Jesus" on this forum when your JW cult doesn't habitually use the name at all. What they say is "Jehovah God". Go to any JW discussion group or see a JW thanking, they NEVER say "thank you Jesus" and very rarely say the name. So what's all this your pretentious focus on Jesus when you know fully well it's a lie?

You said "a believer is someone... in order to solve some problems facing mankind or his own race."
What "problem facing mankind or his own race" has JW solved lately. Regale us

LordReed:
May be to your brain it is. It isn't to me.

Where did I insist that the god "exists outsider time and in a dimension beyond your comprehension"? Please don't be disingenuous by putting words in my mouth.

Our brains are so limited we don't know what is "real" and what is not. Our dreams seem totally real to us until we wake up.

No, I was referencing my own words from the OP.
Remember?
4) God exists in a dimension you can neither visualize, explain, nor comprehend.
I never said they were your words

LordReed:
You are being disingenuous.

DeepSight you warned me. Look at this rubbish.

Here's our exchange. Please what didn't I understand?
Me: If everything happened as stated in the Bible would you believe Jesus is God?

You: If there was evidence they did, most likely i would

Sorry I didn't know you'd mind my referencing your response to others on the thread

LordReed:
If there was evidence they did, most likely i would.



If that person can do something that according to the framework of belief that only a god could do like make the sun to "stand still" without killing everything on the earth, I would be convinced they are probably what they say they are.

Everything is not incoherent because I have a sane mind that can evaluate reality with good epistemological frameworks. Yes my brain can be manipulated but it is because there are good epistemological frameworks that we know that. If you have faulty epistemology and are unable to properly evaluate reality thats a you problem not an us problem.

Thanks for being honest about Jesus being God.

As for incoherence, see how you keep using the word "reality", it never occurres to you that reality itself is incoherent. Everything about your existence is based on circumstantial evidence not final proof, yet you insist that God that exists outsider time and in a dimension beyond your comprehension and imagination be coherent to your extremely limited brain!

Maxindhouse and janosky please see the below. Even an atheist agrees that Jesus would God if the Bible were true

DeepSight:
You are free to call me slow, I don't mind.

So let's start again. Are you saying you can know the attributes of God through Jesus Christ?

This your obsession with attributes.
There's nothing to start again. It is stated right at the OP - God exists in a dimension you can neither visualize, explain, nor comprehend.
If yiu can't visualize, explain, nor comprehend a dimension, how can you be talking of attributes within it??

onome25:
SOME BLIND INDIVIDUALs HERE ARE ALREADY LAMENTING & SPITTING RUBBISH ON THIS BEAUTIFUL THREAD
some APCSHIT miscreants wants to hijack this thread in favour of Thier deceptive candidate where as the op has already highlighted in details who won 2023 & who will win 2027nl election
THE WAZIRI OF ADAMAWA IS THE MAN RO BEAT🤞🙏👍💪
ATIKU ABUBAKAR WILL BE PRESIDENT 2027 ....INSHA'ALLAH

What will be his PUNISHMENT when Tinubu "wins"? That's how we know he's confident about his prediction

Deepspirituals:
Don't Just Jump on thread without Reading, Only Babies Does that ... Read the Thread well... If You need Bettings sure odds , Go and Look for one elsewhere , He doesn't Play betting , He doesn't Give any .. .Anything that has to do with Making Financial Gains , Money in Spirituals is a different Ball Game Dntirely, If you need Money , The natural and Spiritual ways is You go and work , When you work you Make money , If you wants a Faster Money , You go for the Spiritual Protocols which Not all Spiritualist Dabbles into..

Attraction of Money , Wealth through faster means Comes with a Price , The Spirit that brings those things into Realities are not Kobo , Kobo , You Pay the price they give it to you .. Wake Up Babies in Spiritual Matters

I'm not one of your gullible "customers". Why doesn't he solve all these kidnappings? How many has he solved? What is the excuse there?
Spiritual protocols!
When Tinubu "wins" what will be his excuse - I'm sure he has one ready!😆

Why doesn't he tell us who'd win matches so we bet and make a fortune?
Tinubu has already "won" the election. They should be getting ready for Supreme Court

DeepSight:
If the foregoing is true how come you seem to know what God's attributes are?

I'm trying my very best not to call you slow but you're not helping at all.
(Patiently) Those are attributes traditionally assigned to God by MAN! Go read the OP, it is clearly stated there. Whew!

Here's another excerpt from the OP:

5) So how do you know God? The ONLY way is the way it happened with Jesus. ANYONE that all those things happened with is God the Son of God. You can't know him any other way. You can't know him by logic, reasoning, or attributes. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY!!

DeepSight:
Joking?

Omnipotence - Jesus said he can do nothing without the one who sent him.

Omniscience - Jesus said he does not know the day and hour, only the Father knows it.

Never prays - Jesus prayed all the time, especially at Gethsemane when he said "not as I will but as thou wilt."

Who is joking?

Did you read the OP of this thread at all? Why not go back and read the whole thing? Here's an excerpt:

2) You don't have the foggiest idea what God's attributes are. So forget all the attributes you have in your head - they were assigned by man. You simply don't have the foggiest idea what God's attributes are or are not. So forget all attributes you assign to God!

3) If God is explained to you as straight forward and quite uncomplicated, you can be sure they are giving u man's version of God, NOT God as he is.

4) God exists in a dimension you can neither visualize, explain, nor comprehend.

DeepSight:
So you know the attributes of God?
I hope you now those three attriutes in bold are incompatible with Jesus?

Are you just joking or what?

DeepSight:
You have not addressed the contradiction: if the attributes of God cannot be known, how can you use any attributes of Jesus (including prophecy about him, people worshipping him, etc) to conclude he is God?

Maybe we ought define what we mean by attributes. If someone says you're a thief, that's not an attribute of yours. Same way if someone calls your ma a ho or beats up your child. Pertaining to God, attributes we assign him are obvious - omnipotence, omniscience, never prays, etc

DeepSight:
1. How do you verify what happened with Jesus?
2. Since you say we can have no clue what God's attributes are, why would you then accept any miracle worker to be God? That means you know God's attributes.

1. We believe the Bible is essentially true. That's what the thread is based on. If you believe the Bible is a pack of lies then we don't have a thread.
2. My belief is NOT based on just what he himself said and did, but on what was said about him long before he was born, the special events surrounding his birth, how he was worshipped as an infant by people with spiritual insight, and finally what has happened with him since his death and resurrection.

Emusan:
Yeah, I agreed with you that Bible is accurate.

My point is, Being God isn't what happened with Jesus but the scripture revealed that Jesus is Almighty God.

What convinces me personally is how things happened with him in the Bible and until now over 2 thousand years later. He is God. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "Almighty"

LordReed:
The bolded is why I am an Igtheist. The concept of gods in general is incoherent. It is baby talk trying to masquerade as serious thought.

Nothing happened is the point. Those things are just embellished stories.

If everything happened as stated in the Bible would you believe Jesus is God?

By the way you were asked what would convince you that someone is God, not whether it is incoherent or not. Everything ought be incoherent to you not just God, seeing that you're on this speck of dust of a planet, not knowing where you are, why you are here, or if you're actually here, and given very limited senses, and very limited brain that can easily be manipulated. That's why you were not asked about coherence.

So many rules and laws. Jesus truly set us free.

By the way, seventh month is NOT seventh month. See below.
So much for your long write-up

Emusan:
Point of correction: Isn't what HAPPENED with Jesus but How the scripture REVEALED who He was.

The basic assumption of this thread is that the Bible is approximately accurate except for minor inconsistencies on inconsequential things

LordReed:
I do but it would a waste of time to actually respond to something so patently ludicrous.

You can respond VERY briefly.
What would it take to convince you that someone is God (bearing in mind that you don't have the foggiest idea what/who God is nor can you in any way describe him or any of his attributes).
Personally, if ALL that happened with Jesus happens with ANY person I'd accept that the person is God.

GlobalWay:
Elon is too immature. Why trying to disgrace President just because his tune was not danced to? He's not even seen as a full American, he should have continue to use this Trump tenure to warn his way into full Americans consciousness with focus on himself becoming President later.
Elon has more to lose in this not the President.

He'd learn. You DON'T pick a fight with city hall!
He'd learn. You DON'T pick a

Streetinvestor2:
Walahi my village population is more than this country..lol
This SW president just they disgrace himself everytime.The population of this country fit enter winners present church size if well arranged at ota cannan land.How many workers do dangota have presently at pay roll when you join the refinery. Why SW president no just go vacation for dangota House

Those type of countries can come in very handy though, if you want to hide embezzled money or as a tax heaven. Remember, it is a sovereign nation, and if you commit a huge crime and run go there, no government can come arrest you unless they have extradition treaty with her

Janosky:
1.
John 3:16. John 5:37. John 13:16, Jesus said the God Almighty didn't send himself, contrary to your claim.

2.
You said the Rich man (God Almighty) sent his Son.
Nah you dey deceive yourself that the Rich man is his Son.

Person wey say him get brain wey no dey "cherry pick Bible".

You've already been told these things can NOT be viewed from human perspective. They are beyond human comprehension. You accept that God can listen to millions of contradictory prayers simultaneously, and accept that God can be in heaven and in each of us at same time, yet find it difficult to accept that God the Father can be in heaven while God the Son is on earth at same time! Wehdone

Janosky:
Morning Stars are angels.. .. Gbagam .
A.I confirmed Job 38:7.
This is the A.I. explanation on Job 38:7 explaining the truth about morning stars I have shown to you, but you don't believe.

One of your Christendom leaders who made the screenshot quote, is he teaching you that "millions of documents by Bible scholars" is more authoritative than your own Bible?

Please Continue to go "through millions of documents by "Bible scholars " & be deceiving yourself.

Why not type in the question: "Are all angels morming stars?" a million times and see if you'll ever get a "yes"!
People study the Bible all their lives and still discover new insights. Now, take millions of those people, that's what AI goes through to come up with an answer. Compare to you who take one verse in isolation, and probably out of context!

LordReed:
This sounds so satirical. You must be having a laugh.

Yep, they're so satirical you have no rebuttal

brain54:
Reno has a sickening obsession for Peter obi...


However obi sounds like a desperate politician that would do or say anything to get elected!

He said worse about Tinubu. At least he has NOT said Obi has poor dental hygiene and body odor.

But if Obi ever became president it'd be like magic how same Reno will try to pass as his best friend!😅