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Did he come with his Rolls Royce that he purchased on civil servant salary

If only Tinubu had kept his promise to continue from where FAILURE Buhari stopped, instead he started far below Buhari and has doubled the FAILURE!

One thing I know for sure Obi will do - rein in spending!

tctrills:
My response to you and Moremii
1. Was the Council of Nicaea a Political Plot?
Claim: Constantine used the Council of Nicaea to rewrite Christianity for power.

Well-said and quite exhaustive

FreeIgboho:
Yes I did. The flaw is that they don't claim Paul was also not a real person. The problem with claiming Jesus never existed is the existence of people like Paul!
Maxindhouse and Janosky will like it. Lordreed, DeepSight, Moremii will love it.
tctrills, Dtruthspeaker, what you think of it?
Everyday247, Ruke1990
sonmvayina, number 1 Christ existence dinier, this ought shut up up!
https://www.youtue.com/watch?v=EEcZtMhj4Jw

I feel bad not also posting proofs Jesus obviously existed. It ought be beyond debate just from the Bible - no one can make up all that!

These are all ONE minute long:

https://youtube.com/shorts/M_b6qZcQ2VY?si=2hQR-hPTFNa30NLw

https://youtube.com/shorts/R3RF-3NkWII?si=83kTmj0p89zaaAas

https://youtube.com/shorts/pZN-8_LL8a8?si=hYcHAzwpfRHAR8iG

https://youtube.com/shorts/dGqJFjms6LI?si=p0AtgJEiO6JjnLBI

Janosky:
Oga, do you worship 2 spirit beings?



Oga,you have jumped to a false premise to make a wrong conclusion .
Jehovah God in Your own Bible calls other beings gods.
These other beings ( including Jesus are gods ,I don't worship them.
Is this point that clear to you!

You've already been told "Jehovah" is a medieval mistake. See below
Maxindhouse might also take note.

Janosky:
Oga Did your own Bible or Jesus Christ label Psalms 82:6 & John 10:34-36 as "human reasoning"?




[b]
But nah you dey worship 2 Spirits dey break Jehovah God's Command,


Psalms 82:6 and John 10:34-36,Oga did Jehovah call (other Beings His Sons) gods?
Yes, according to Jehovah God Almighty.

Did Jehovah God Almighty command you to worship other Beings or Jesus that He calls gods?
Not at all.

Jehovah God calls his Son's (other beings) gods.
That is what makes them gods .
/b]

What makes them gods??
We don't have "gods" in Christianity.
What makes Jesus God:
He accepted worship
He forgave sins
He used the divine "I am"
He said once you see him, you've seen God
He did extreme miracles like raise the dead and command wind
He said he'd come into people's hearts
He raised himself from dead as he said he would

Which of your "gods" has any of these attributes?

Janosky:
Oga, do you worship 2 spirit beings?



Oga,you have jumped to a false premise to make a wrong conclusion .
Jehovah God in Your own Bible calls other beings gods.
These other beings ( including Jesus are gods ,I don't worship them.
Is this point that clear to you!

We worship only ONE God. One of his manifestations is his Son, Jesus

Janosky:
Yes.
The worship of the ONLY Supreme God,Jehovah, supported by Matthew 4:10 and Mark 12:28-30,the teaching of Jesus Christ.

Oga, do you worship two Spirits,the Father & his Son?

Answer the question. We all know what makes Jesus God. What exactly makes these your other gods gods??

Janosky:
Alpha & Omega is a title that God Almighty gave his Son Jesus the authority to bear it, John 17:7.Matthew 28:18

You want Jesus to be your deity but Jesus agreed that God his Senior calls Jesus a god.
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God his Senior (or Father) has no equal,Hebrew 6:13.
Whether you call Jesus your own (Alpha and Omega ,the titles that God his Father gave Jesus,@ John 17:7),does that change Jesus opinion that he is a god?

Oga, does your claim change Jehovah's decree that Jesus his Son is a god @ John 10:34-36 & Psalms 82:6?

No be you or me dey decide wetin we go call Jesus.
Nah Jehovah God him Father get that authority.- God his Father said His Son Jesus is a god.

Your problem is that you refuse to step outside human reasoning when it comes to Jesus. If you used human reasoning, how can God listen to a million prayers at once?? God said don't have any other gods, don't worship them. What exactly makes these your other gods gods??

Babangidapikin:
Sex is not love . They are many things you can bring to the table beyond sex. Don't stress yourself overthinking things, if someone loves you their presence is enough joy for you.

You mean if someone loves you YOUR presence is enough joy for them

Janosky:
Jehovah God Almighty calls His Sons gods.Psalm 82:6
Each son is a god, Jesus agreed,John 10:34-36


Acts 12:22-23. 1 Corinthians 8:4-5, Oga Stop deceiving yourself

Bros do.you know what monotheism means. Please tell us

Janosky:
Oga, Jesus reply to the Jews is in John 10:34-36.

Jesus rejected their false allegation.
Your Bible did not end in verse 33.

How many times do you have to be told, you don't cherrypick the Bible! Too many things point to Jesus divinity. He was directly called God and unlike everyone else he didn't rebuke who called him that, He's alpha and Omega, etc

Janosky:
Jesus christ rejected that false claim made by the Jews.
Jesus disagreed with them.
John 5:18-19,John 10:34-36,Jesus said so "he can not do anything by himself " because he is a god,the son of God

Once again, there us no "a god" in Christianity. We only have one God and Jesus is a Son (manifestation) of that one God

Janosky:
Jesus is divine meaning Jesus is a god.
Divine/ Divinity = a god.
Screenshot evidence



Jehovah meaning " I will be what I will be."
The Jews NEVER believed what you claimed.
Screenshot evidence.

Oga Stop deceiving yourself[/b].

Christianity is monotheistic. We only have one God. Once you start having "a god" it is not longer Christianity. It is either Jesus is God (the Son) or he is not. There is no in-between "god"

If "I am" cannot be derived from "I am what I am" or "I will be what I will be" how come "Johovah" can be derived from YHWH. Do you know there is no such name as Johovah. Do you know it is a mistake from medieval times?
Not only that, if "I am" was not holy to the Israelites how come they said Jesus was saying he was God for using it??

Moremii:
Thank you. 1306 is not 306 CE though, but maybe it was a typo on your part. And I never disputed that he enacted the Edict of Milan.

I will attend to the rest of your rebuttal when I'm chanced.

He'd have come to power 1000 years after proclaiming the edict!

There's nothing to attend; There's no way you can divorce Jesus from Yahweh!

Moremii:
I'm preparing your response too. Just be patient. I don't have time on my hands all the time.

Also, Constantine actually came to power in 1306.
He was the one who enacted the Edict of Milan in 313

Dtruthspeaker:
Change of Post! The topic is evidence and not "how can God be...



That is still evidence!, son.

No, my son, in your dream you can touch and see everything yet it's all a lie. Same way, this our "reality" could actually be a dream or anything. Point is, your reasoning is extremely limited and very easy to manipulate

Dtruthspeaker:
It is already settled that based on the experiences people have had in the state called dreams, that dreams are another part of living which people are still exploring and learning about Which is why you said "dream".

And that does not negate the fact things you touched and see are evidence.

Ok, from your reasoning how can God be in heaven and as Jesus on earth at same time? How can God be hearing a million prayers at once or be inside you??
No, you CAN touch and see something that's not there

Dtruthspeaker:
Reasoning is also evidence.

Same reasoning that deceives you into thinking anything you can see and touch is real. Yesterday in my dream I was wishing I was dreaming , not knowing I was actually dreaming till I woke up!

LordReed:
Dude if your evidence is the stories of the Bible especially the OT then you are more lost than I thought.

So Israelites have been fools all this time reading the Torah and Tanakh!
Who woulda thunk it!!

Moremii:
I already did. If you can't see the proof or want to pretend that you didn't see it, then the joke is on you.

So let's see your response to my post

Dtruthspeaker:
Exactly!

Whose Commandments did Christ Say that people did not obey?

See, people deceiving themselves with cut and join gospel

Instead of pretending about Jesus of the Bible, the honest thing for them to do is, forget the Jesus of the Bible entirely and create a new Jesus that is devoid of Yahweh and has only elements palatable to them!

DeepSight:
Very well said again, nothing to dispute. You have indeed made my day, even if that be to the chagrin of tctrills.
PS: The bold is eminently possible.

I take it you and Moremii believe the NT. How do these excerpts below not totally contradict your thesis? Who's prophets and commandments do you think Jesus was talking about? Also, do you know that after Nicea Arianism actually became very popular and was the state religion of Europe till the 6th century? So you see, what you are leaving out of your equation is GOD! In the end the truth triumphs. Same way they couldn't eradicate Christianity because God was behind it, Nicea could do nothing unless God supported it, and God would not support it unless it was true. (Maxindhouse and Janosky, that's part of the reason you know Jesus is God).
Also, you are wrong, Constantine did not manipulate Nicea. The bishops had a three-day debate after which they took a vote.
Here are the scriptures (If Jesus is not of Yahweh why was he so obsessed with fulfilling everything of Yahweh?)

Mathew 5
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished

Mathew 15
24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.
26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

Luke 4
“The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me
to proclaim good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind,
to set the oppressed free,
19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”

20 Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21 He began by saying to them, “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”

Instead of pretending about Jesus of the Bible, the honest thing for you folks to do is, forget the Jesus of the Bible entirely and create a new Jesus that is devoid of Yahweh and has only elements palatable to you!

LordReed:
LoLz. What evidence? A story? Bwahahahahahaha!

So OT and people of it also never existed? OK o

Image123:
Question for jamb.

Are calling Reno a liar?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc6COWi65hU?si=IQef6HaMNVuTgPu9

Image123:
Obi, El Rufai, Amaechi, Atiku who change party every other election circle are mocking Reno who changed once. Hypocrisy. No dey give shishi dey induce with jollof rice.

How can you be comparing changing party to this below

yinchar:
Why is this on the front page?
Every active Nairalander has seen this one way or the other before
The rationale is questionable

Yeah, but how about those of us who are not active

LordReed:
The person who believes while telling me his brain cannot comprehend reality is the nonsensical one.

That's just an attribute of humans. But it doesn't matter. What matters is that I believe based on evidence NOT based on the very limited and unknowing reasoning of humans, which is what your unbelief is based on!

Gabrielshow24:
'cause according to Jano, he is an Angel 😂, part of the foremost angels. They even have this theory, Primus conventus, that explains the ludicrous details🧐—you should read it, it's a "good" read👀. Also, Max is the custodian of such a book!

To contribute to this thread: I believe when God is ready he will change their minds👀 but for now, he doesn't have their time. By the time they see things that their intellect cannot explain, that their standards(empiricism) falls short on. They will know there is more!!!

By the way, kudos for engaging them. Keep up the good work!

Thank you very much.
No mind MaxIndhouse and Janosky. They have wisely disappeared. The truth eventually triumphs. You can talk non sequitur for only so long!😆

DeepSight:
Why on Earth do you believe those were the last words of Steve Jobs?
And you call someone else child-like!

They were part of his last words, obviously.
His very last words (as clearly stated in the post) are: "Oh wow! Oh wow! Oh wow!"

tctrills:
Merci beaucoup

Me too, Google did the rest!