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juman:
Improper data.
Tens of thousands of people already died of corona in nigeria.

This is a fallacy certain quarters have been trying to push. Where are the dead bodies??
Truth is, malaria and our weather have immuned us from the disease

NwaAmaikpe:




I'm still up in the kitchen cooking up a recipe that would help with the Omicron strain.

Because COVID will not stop me from kissing random chicks in clubs this Christmas.

There’s practically no covid in Naija, so you safe. (Malaria and our weather have immuned us from the disease)

KnownUnknown:
Lmao

BTW I think KnownUnknown and LordReed are one and the same person
But I could be wrong, of course

LordReed:
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Nice chatting witcha. You must have a lot of money. Should I send my account?

LordReed:
Well I have been talking about physics and physics is how we learn to describe the natural process including space. If you aren't taalking about phyics then the discussion is pointless.

BTW how come you have been mentioning classical physics and quantum mechanics but now you aren't talking physics because it doesn't support your assertions. LoL

Is this how the physicists you know talk? How many equations have you cited? What studies have you cited to prove that speed of light is the speed limit of the universe?
My friend we are talking lay man not Physics - which is why I was talking of end of space and end of time NOT space-time.
Which is also why you can’t deduce from what I posted how quantum mechanics supports simulation theory - because you can’t talk physics - you want lay man explanation.
Well here it is:
In quantum mech particles exist only when observed - just like our simulation. Also at core our reality is information not material - ”coding” - simulation!

LordReed:
This is not an English language lesson. We are talking of physics and here your assertions are meaningless without evidence.

No we are not talking physics otherwise there’d be all sorts of equations and technical talk. I wouldn’t have asked you what’s at the end of time or space. I would have been talking space-time and such. In everyday English time is always now, which is infinite, likewise at the end of empty space you have more empty space - infinite

LordReed:
Like I said don't kid yourself, I didn't agree that with you.

So we are back where we were: prove to me I exist outside your head

LordReed:
Still not saying HOW. Simply stating something is not enough when the question is how.

See below

LordReed:
LoL! Where did you learn this physic from cos as far as I aware nobody says this. You are the first person I am hearing this "empty space" idea from. Besides what evidence do you have of this "empty space".

That’s what we call where there is nothing in English language - empty space!

LordReed:
Then go find people who agree with you that it is merely a possibility, if you have evidence then we are no longer talking possibility. So which is it, are we discussing a speculation or do you have evidence.

Besides you didn't convince me of anything, don't kid yourself.

Have you forgotten? You all FINALLY agreed with me.

I have circumstancial evidence you exist, doesn’t mean you exist!

LordReed:
Then stop giving me stuff with people stating they know.

You have all previously been persuaded by me that we have no way of knowing things for certain. That’s the context of all our discussion - that, based on evidence, one thing is more likely than the other, not that anything is certain

LordReed:
Why are we defining what has been well defined?

Let me put it to you this way, when you get to the end of that your space-time fabric, and nothing is outside it - in English language we call that nothing “empty space”

LordReed:
So a guy just narrates 5 stories with no way to verify them and we are supposed to accept them as penitence we are in a simulation? LoL. No buddy, that is not how it works.

Read the comments. The glitches are all over the place. Even one happened right in front of us and we all know it but can’t do anything about it - Buhari was switched!

LordReed:
Still not saying HOW. Simply stating something is not enough when the question is how.

It’s all over the internet na. Okay, I’ll pick one and post for you

LordReed:
They are not using the language of possibility but of certainty. Even you most times use the language of certainty. For instance you say Musk has information we don't have because he is somehow in touch with these other beings. If I asked how you know this you'd revert to the language of possibility. Look at the title of the video, they are using the word discovered as if it is a proven fact.

Now I don't mind speculations, they are fun to think about but when people like you talk like they know things they can't possibly know then I think we are no longer speculating. If you want us to speculate, we can but if you want to state your opinions as verified facts then be ready to defend your position.

U r funny. The very first thing I ever said to u was that I was not certain of anything except that something exists. There was a whole thread of argument on that, with all of you claiming to be sure if things!

LordReed:
The Article you linked is one of the reasons I made this statement:

I think the thing is that you see these statements as absolutes. Of course NO ONE knows if we are living in a simulation or not.
What these folks are saying is that the evidence suggests it is highly likely. And they’re always folks who spent years studying physics or building simulations.

Check out this video. See how it dovetails with what I told you - that strange occurrences are glitches in the matrix - things you atheists always attribute to coincidence!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWajxzWrMAg

LordReed:
I don't see how quantum mechanics is proving simulation hypothesis in what you posted.

Well for one thing quantum mechanics proved that our universe is made of information not particles (as is the case in classical physics).

LordReed:
A response:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9lfZAMF7HQ

Thanks for the vid but this is a very poor response.
I was expecting him to refute, or at least not concede, that the probabity is so small. Instead he is using semantics after conceding it’s true. What does it matter that the probability in every throw remains one in 6. He’s talking like a kid - and not a very smart one at that

LordReed:
So how is it expanding if it is nothing?

That’s why I said there first has to be redefinition of terms for it to make sense. There is no finiteness in nothing and there is no finiteness in now (and also btw there is no finiteness in numbers). For any of those terms to be finite you have to make it clear you mean something other than what they mean in every day English

LordReed:
What Musk is warning about has not materialised either so where is the difference.

Till then I guess. LoL

But he is directly involved in it - he knows exactly what he is talking about.

What u think of this video? Rings true


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy6kaDaeDT8

LordReed:
LoLz space is not nothing. From Einstein's theories we know that space and time act like a single thing called spacetime and is described as a "fabric" that can get warped by gravity. Again it is not nothing simply because it is largely devoid of matter, rather it is the "fabric" within which all of our physical universe is situated. We also know it is finite because we can trace the origins of its expansion by utilising the speed of the expansion.

That’s what I mean by redefine. In English language space is not fabric of any kind. Space is nothing, just as time is now

LordReed:
Makes them even more special. Musk as seen and is talking they didn't see it but their minds could conceptualise even better than people who can see it.

What did he say?

Point is, what they were warning about is not Musk is warning about. What they were warning about actually never materialized.

Musk answered “not yet”. He said humans are building god without being aware of it. Eventually everyone’s info, habits, appearance, etc will be on Google, Facebook, etc. Eventually all this info will be linked. The AI that houses all that info will know everything about every human and their next move, even their thoughts - god!

LordReed:
It is precisely because they are finite that we cannot know what is beyond them. When you arrive at the northpole the question what is north of the northpole becomes a silly question because you have arrived at the place where all "norths" on earth take reference from. So it is with space and time, if you arrive at the bounds of space ad time it becomes an invalid question to ask what is beyond them. Space and time have boundaries beyond which our ability to contemplate can carry no meaning since space and time bounds everything that exists so it would tantamount to asking what exists beyond existence.

I disagree. Space is nothing. Beyond nothing there can only be nothing. Time is now (in reality there is no past or present). Beyond now there can only be now. For them to be finite they’d have to redefine space and time!

LordReed:
How does quantum mechanics buttress the simulation hypothesis?

See below

LordReed:
I didn't you did. I said it was one of my reasons against the hypothesis.

It is an incoherent question because there is no way to understand anything beyond space and time. It is like asking what is north of the northpole.

Nope, I’ve always said we have no way of knowing what it is we don’t know.

If there is no way to understand anything beyond space and time, why are you insisting they are finite?

LordReed:
If you are looking for people with unusual insight wouldn't you have been seeking people who had not even seen AI yet but warned about it but yeah you're a fanboy so no wahala, enjoy your Musk worship. LMFAO!

They didn’t know what they were warning about! Their context was different from yours! They had no idea of internet or facial recognition or drones, etc.
What Musk is saying is that we’d one day be like pets to AI because the difference in intelligence will be like that between man and dog! Do you know what he said when he was asked if he believed in God?

LordReed:
LoL. Na wa for your fanboyism o. Tesla cars are driven by AI but because you're so in love with Musk you can't even recognise any limits again. Bwahahahahaha!

That’s exactly why him warning about it is different from someone theoretically talking about it in 1820

LordReed:
The point is, since it flew over your head so clearly, inferring that the universe is a simulation because we can create simulations is a fallacy. Do you understand it or do I need to write it in your local dialect.

I never made any such inference. Where did you get that from? I even said we provably can’t imagine what’s on the other side.

You still didn’t answer my question: what would be on the other side at end of your finite space? Same with time

LordReed:
You are the one acting dumb. Is light the only thing that defies classical physics? My question is why are you picking light but of course you can't understand or answer the question so you deflect with inanities.

You don’t get it. There is an easily measurable, rather low speed limit in the universe - the SPEED OF LIGHT - just as you would expect in a simulation. Can you measure the end of space or of time? That quantum particles also defy classical Physics also buttresses the simulation argument

LordReed:
Here's another reason I think the simulation hypothesis is fallacious. Thinking that because we can simulate part of our universe doesn't automatically infer that our universe is a simulation. Even if we could simulate the entire universe we still won't have the leeway to infer that the universe is actually a simulation.

This makes no sense. Hypothesis is that the entire universe is a simulation (of some sort) What’s your point?

LordReed:
"Could be" is different from "is". Point being there is no real thing that we KNOW of that is infinite so it is pointless to expect that velocity should have been infinite. We live in a universe that very much bound to what is finite. Using the speed of light as some kind of hard limit doesn't make any sense since every other thing is similarly finite, why are you choosing light and saying ah ha! this one does the trick. Why are you not saying ah ha! All the mass of the universe is finite therefore we are in a simulation?

You are acting dumb again. Give an example of something as counterintuitive as light riding an a truck without increasing it’s speed. Also you didn’t answer my question: what would be on the other side at end of your finite space? Same with time

LordReed:
https://youtu.be/EmfrMKLw3k

You compare this to Musk almost crying about AI?? Smh