₦airaland Forum

samuk:
You too have no date for the Oduduwa you are claiming. Why are you complaining that the Oba of Benin wants to celebrate Oduduwa he believes to be a Benin prince. The Oba of Benin is not stopping any other Yoruba oba from doing similar celebrations if they believe he was their progenitor.

Just imagine!
You that have date for your so called missing ekaladiran why don't you give us his date of birth and the date he died
and possibly his father/mothers name too to proof to us he is not fabricated.

Yoruba don't need you to tell us to celebrate oduduwa that we've been admiring and cerebrating for centuries before you benin ever heard someone with that name existed,you woke up way too too late.

Jagunlabiodua:
Wrong we share similar language, In Edo there are Yoruba speaking, people, Edo is a sub dialect of Yoruba, itsekiri are Yorubas, Those areas belongs to a Yoruba king called OBA of Benin. Even in Edo state they speak Yoruba. Delta they speak Yoruba, other tribes there are nothing but minorities sub Yoruba and Igbo groups. You should know in 1960 Western Nigeria Government is Oduduwa

Did you remember that there is a region called mid western created by plebiscite??

samuk:
If you are claiming Oduduwa as great Yoruba personality, could you please tell us what time in history he existed, TAO11 and other Yorubas have been unable to answer this simple question, maybe you can. Mind you your eyewitness written history only began in 1826.

You sound pained that the Oba of Benin is celebrating Oduduwa who he believes was a Benin prince. You all are going to learn new things.

Maybe you should tell me what time your fabricated ekaladiran existed

samuk:
Benin history have a way of getting into some people's head and becomes a lifelong obsession, poor TAO11, she has bought a market for life. She is going to be arguing Benin history with no end, constantly looking for where Benin is mentioned, to jump in, it doesn't matter if it concerns her or not.

That's because tao11 enjoy boosting you cookup lies as past time

temitope27:
so I you know his real name(izoduwa) y not call lyk that and calling him oduduwa

Benin history revisionist are fraudsters. from ekelederan to izoduwa to imadoduwa..etc etc but from all this fraudulent names they can't name their newly inferiority induce invented festival after any of those previous fraudulent names but after Yoruba precious oduduwa,the Benin's are just convetously after the personality of great oduduwa of Yoruba's noting more noting less.

ooh fake fake ooh fake in wine voice

Fezz:
King of ife .. lol, the Benin chiefs always knew he existed and that's why a search party was dispatched to get him back. They wanted Oduduwa to come back but he refused due to old age and that's when they accepted his son to take his place. .

he became king in ife and automatically his title turn to oduduwa in benin right ?

Fezz:
Oduduwa is the title name of Ekalederan. In Benin a king is always known by his title name once he becomes king. Why don't you call Oba Ewuare by his real name, I'm sure you don't even know his real name. Ekalederan's name changed to Oduduwa once he became king and that is why he's known as Oduduwa till today and he's celebrated with that name.
Oduduwa has no meaning in Yoruba unless you disect his name into pieces like you guys always do, but Oduduwa is a pure Benin name, we don't need to break it down into pieces or add anything to his name before it has a meaning.

benin lie to them self's yet still believed the same lies to be true, his title name changed once he become king king of where king of benin right ? so pathetic I wonder how someone you never knew existed before his grandson came to colonies you title change when he became king

Fezz:
The oba of Benin has always claimed that Oduduwa is the same person as Ekalederan whoms father was ogiso owodo, so I don't know what you are talking about. You better go and listen properly to the full clip of his inauguration speech. The truth you seek is right there in the speech he made. The ooni of ife was seated right at the front roll.

if truly ekalederan is the same person as you omo oba claim why then him turn around to celebrate oduduwa that is known all over the world belonged to Yoruba's, why not him (omo oba) celebrate his ekala eran in festival peace instead of oduduwa ?

GUILTY CONSCIENCE I GUESS

kayuseful:
Always choose democracy over military rule anyday anytime, twice on Tuesday morning.
E get why


But wait o
So it's now that it's almost the turn for power to shift away from the North they are planning to switch to military?

it's one loser from the south by the name Robert Clarke that is inviting them

NgeneUkwenu:
When campaign starts next year, you all would realize IPOB/ESN/Unknown GunMen/Nnamdi Cownu= PDP...

add Sunday igboho to the list abeg!

southsouthking:
Obaseki na former broker, him know watin dey play.
All this na kick of a dying horse

what does these suppose to mean,are you saying that this one thousand naira bill was part of money's given to States as allocation??

Fezz:
I keep on saying it over and over again that you are not a smart guy. The sooner you realise that oduduwa is real the better for you. Observers don't take your posts serious anymore because your arguments are annoying. It's better for you to support the claim that oduduwa's ancestors are originally from igodomigodo which is the actual truth than for you to say he doesn't exist at all. Your excuse is sooo lame. It's just your way of chicken out from hot debates. You better go and study your roots properly "i.e if you are truly a Benin descendant" and stop making a laughing stock of yourself on this blog. Cheers!

your omo oba don comot shame for face.

he has finally accepted his progenitor to be oduduwa from ile ife, he (omo oba) is now ready to celebrate his fore father (oduduwa) publicly ones and for all

Stateoforigin:
Papa is saying we should go back to military regime. What a joke! The same military that kept us stagnant for many years with coups and counter coups.

The only realistic solution to Nigeria is a break up into seven pieces.

Nigeria shouldn't have been a country in the first place

Imagine


that's how losers think they felt they've lost out so they're tacitly calling for military coup that has been the pattern since second republic,

UGBE634:
shut up you fool when you don't know something you ask ivbiosakon are the afemai today they migrated from Benin just like the urhobos migrated from Benin but they are not Benins numbskulls they are the etsakos today wake me up up when you see an excerpt that talked about raiding Edo bini villages and I will take you serious even if lion injure dog still know he mate

wait are you staying those palaces were not part of your so called empire ? if yes that means the imaginary empire is not more than three LGAs

TAO12:
Haha! Finally, a screenshot which confirms my video of Edo’s 21^st century return back home to Benin.

In other words, the enslaved Edos whom the Yorubas sold were too weak to demand freedom & repatriation back to Africa until 400 years later.

The enslaved Edos remained slaves in the Americas for 400 years. It took their descendants to leverage on the science of Genetics in order to map their way back home to Benin kingdom as the video below shows.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM

See also:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996709_af6378be36104010b036a2f7ab4096cd_jpeg_jpeg07ca8a3f5b191f4126cdcd6bf2f7faf7

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996710_b28de88ee10a4b7a83b95532f6609396_jpeg_jpegaca1a6203806c9d893c79b42b9a6c76e

Cheers!

Madame professor please ma'am take easy with those Bini mis.crant don't let them commit suicide on your name ma'am

nisai:
This one has nothing coherent to type again after having been battered with evidence by an 'ordinary' lady.

What a person!

oga let us be guided sir there is nobody that's ordinary, human being are the same in intellect female or male

I don't think she an ibo girl because opaleke is a Yoruba name, a Yoruba girl married to a Yoruba guy I think

OneTemplate:
Man mi, that guy is a joker. We should forget that Nigeria is a sovereign nation that still has a political democracy, not monarchy, run by elected and constitutionally empowered leaders to go and put all our eggs in the basket of Akintoye and his secession agitation that may or may not be actualized.

How many decades have Igbos agitated for Biafra yet Nigeria remains undivided to date?

Smart and pragmatic folks never put all their eggs in one basket. Igbos did that and continue to do so till date. This is why they are political pariahs and outcasts still suffering to date.

Intelligent Yorubas know that we should simply wish Akintoye and Tinubu productive travel down their chosen path in this uncertain period in Nigeria's history we have no previous experience of.

No one has any crystal ball to authoritatively reveal the future so smart men know that rejecting no option (Yoruba Presidency or seccession) is the best way forward.

god will abundantly bless you! man wey sabi

theFilmtric:
They are irredeemable
He can't even spell Oduduwa he spelt it as "odudwa"

theFilmtricsay

Yes bro they're not too difficult to be detected

[quote author=TAO11 post=101284977]What a load of rRRRrrrUbish!

(1) First of all, there is nothing called “Eben”.

The original Yoruba name is “Ebere,” and we still use this name (among others) all over our kingdoms till date. But the name Eben was recently faked by the Binis.

The name “Eben” is a modern-day Benin forgery which was fabricated in order to hide the true/original IFE-Yoruba origin of this state ‘sword’.

We know this because, even in as recent as the late 1800s, European visitors to Benin who also met this object in Benin documented its name as “Ebere” — NOT once as “Eben” — See. H. King Roth (1903).

(2) The second of the pair is the “Ada”. Although, the original Yoruba name of this one has been correctly preserved by the Binis, there are linguistic clues which tells of the actual Yoruba origins of this state object as well.

The Bini dictionary confesses that the name “Ada” for this state object is a name borrowed into Bini language from the Yoruba language.

(3) Owo kingdom was founded about the same period as Benin kingdom. How then can it first king have been a descendant of Esigie (16th/17th Benin king)??

Moreover, Owo palace traditions names the founder of the Owo kingdom to be an IFE prince by the name Asunlola Ojugbelu (and his son, Imade).

Benin liars-cum-ignoramuses make me cringe so bad.


(4) The King of Lagos:
First of all, king Ado (the “first” king of Lagos) is only partly descended from Benin.

King Ado is NOT paternally descended from the Benin Oba.

King Ado IS PATERNALLY descended from Isheri-Olofin in Lagos, and maternally descended from the Benin Oba.

Lagos Kings have a Yoruba crown as attached below.

(5) Would you like me to post a picture of your Oba of Benin holding a long pole-like staff (the like of which you named as a Yoruba staff)??

Would you regard him as a Yoruba king, just for holding that??

Consistency must, by default, be far away from any Bini liar like yourself.

(6) The Ada and the Ebere (aka Ape, aka Ato) have their origin from ILe-Ife (the center of Yoruba civilization and monarchy).

A proof of this fact lies in the existence of the oldest surviving archaeological evidence of both the Ada and the Ebere in Yorubaland till date.

Cheers!


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OdudwaR:
Again cretin, populism is about appealing to the populace. In the US and UK, populism is primarily about immigration. In a poverty ravaged country like Nigeria, populism is about food aka stomach infrastructure.

So, who between Tinubu and Prof. Akintoye can provide stomach infrastructure?

Only a few Nigerians understand political ideologies. And that’s why the country can have two parties that wrestle power based on who can provide stomach infrastructure and prey on ethnic/religious sentiments. But since this topic is strictly about Yorubas, ethnic/religious sentiment is not applicable here.

Look at who this uneducated Tinubu supporter is calling a bigot. Isn’t it funny I see you fighting Igbos from thread to thread but I’m the bigot, no? Illiterate schmuck. Run with your tail between your legs. Hopefully, next time you won’t think “populism” is based on only who doesn’t belong to the elite class.

Write this down Tinubu supporter: populism is about who can give/promise the populace what they want. In western countries, it’s about immigration. In Nigeria, it’s stomach infrastructure.

BTW, keep getting your fellow Tinubu urchins and miscreants to like your posts. It won’t make you less of an uneducated cretin.

I know in your small mind now you I'll think you're making any sense, if populism as you described it is about who can make unachievable promises, then who is a populist between a man who has been in politics since 1992 contesting and winning elective positions from Senate to governor with a track record of successes and a man who just wakeup two years ago with no mandate, promise/swade the people with One phantom oduduwa republic that everybody know it's not achievable for now between too of them who is a populist ??

chatinent:
My one cent.


Nigeria cannot be better.


Inasmuch as it will be ruled by man.

Same man these old political harlot will nominate?

Do you think your vote counts?


It doesn't.

Man's government has failed.


I hope with these few points of mine, I have been able to convince you, but not to confuse you.

Thanks.

man government has failed so what do you suggest we should do fold our hands? or should we call on the celestial body to come and govern our con3

OneTemplate:
Indeed. Does the n1twit see Igbos being the biggest tormentor of Kalu even as bad and as worthless as he is? Peter Obi that abetted Awkuzu SARS atrocities against his own fellow Igbos nko? Igbos shield him like egg and will not even allow other Nigerians criticize or badmouth him as many Yorubas join to do against BAT.

As for the North, only one name. Pantami. Who is foolish enough to think the entire region would not swing maniacally behind Pantami tomorrow if he declares for President and even after what we all know now?

Tinubu ever being as bad or as worthless as all those other political leaders that their kinsmen support loyally and blindly?

If indeed the guy is Yoruba then he is an example of the foolish, annoying, brainless and naive Yorubas who have gotten us where we are today.

I.e the unthinking m0r0ns who will lick the azz of outsiders, as other Nigerians don't do, to then be fighting their own fellow Yoruba vehemently and hatefully.

I don't know why a genuine Yoruba would not understand that Tinubu and Akintoye are different and should be given the latitude to push their respective angles and ambitions.

Must we kill one because of the other? Must we hate one because we support the other? Lunacy.

you've done well my brother noting more noting less I doubt seriously if he is omoluabi and if happened to be one then his one those that have polluted and corrupted physiologically by those cry baby, you know sometimes if you're not careful this their victim mentality and cry of marginalization have a way of getting to you mentally and before you know it you I'll start having simpaty for them.

OdudwaR:
What is “dose not?”

These are the Yoruba miscreants and gutter pigs I’ve to deal with on here. One was even proud of Yoruba sons being “Yahoo boys” when their peers are in Fintech and Blockchain technology.

It’s just sad to see what Tinubu has turned Yorubaland into. A backward haven for uneducated street urchins who will sing his praise for a plate of food. My heart bleeds.

I need to leave this shithole. Only the dregs of the society and the worst of Yoruba populace congregate here.

it's your headache if you don't know (dose not)means, it is not only your heart that bleeds your life will continue bleed as long as you won't hating on any Yoruba political that you piglets from sad yeast fear will get be President of Nigeria. woe onto you and your miserable household

ShadowCracker:
Since you don't know Yoruba groups, you are not Yoruba since you are not Yoruba.

You are not relevant in Yoruba matters.

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkklk am not Yoruba I know you never issue me citizenship

ShadowCracker:
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You claim to be Yoruba, yet you can't comprehend simple Yoruba.

Fulani bororo busted .
Stick to drinking cow urine, ori ee o gba epo .

this Yoruba ethnicity they Hungary you too much that you're trying desperately to belong but sorry it's too late we don't welcome salvage into our mist don't come pollute us your iberiberism from portor land

OneTemplate:
Funny guy. I bet you're nothing but a failed old man and a wretched windbag who has zilch.

All the noise you're making here, even junior 'newbie' yahoo boys, with no affiliation with politics, will buy you.

The part in bold just shows you are a joker. Not many genuine Lagosians, rich or poor, will tell you they never interact with area Boys and Agbero. So far as you drive, go to Party functions or even socialise minimally then it is inevitable.

You just 'punked' yourself mumu. Talking nonsense just to disparage Tinubu. Loser.

the hi.goat even mention that awo will kill you verbally before he outsmart you, that alone has prove to me that he's one those babe factory produce whose sorrow gate parents have train with bitterness right from infancy

OdudwaR:
I guess your definition of “omoluabi” is having a fake name, fake certificates, drug trafficking, turning the capital of Yoruba commerce into a private estate and being a slave to Fulanis while they kill and kidnap poor Yorubas because of personal interests.

Give a hungry man a plate of food and he’ll fight the wall on your behalf. You miscreants aren’t true Yorubas. You’re omo ales.

anybody that dose not agree with you thinking is a miscreant,while you and your fellow blind delusion and rabid thinkers are the only sane one

ShadowCracker:
Omo Yoruba ni mi.
Tinubu is not my leader and he doesn't represent the Yoruba.



I was at the meeting in Ibadan when Prof Banji Akintoye was elected as the Yoruba leader by all Yoruba groups.

Prof Banji Akintoye is our leader.

he was elected by all Yoruba group's you said, my question to you now will be who are those groups who elect those Yoruba groups and who are they representing ??

nairalandankrah:
But Ifeanyi okowa, Amaechi chibuike, Nwike are all Igbo names?

and so fuc.ing what?

nairalandankrah:
That's the point am trying to make to the southerners here..

noting concern the rest of the south that msg should be for s/east only