Tcwork:
I have been upfront with you in telling you how baptism should be performed but you are hesitating in explaining your own style of baptism. Why

On what authority are you basing how baptism should be performed?.......Yours or Scriptural.

Just show me one scripture on which u based ur standard on how baptism should be done and this discussion us over. And pls dnt tell me dipping.

Cos in the case of the Holy Spirit, Baptizo is used and it doesnt imply dipping of any kind, shape or form

Tcwork:

Actually it's greek The word "Baptism" is a transliteration of the Greek word BAPTIZO which means to immerse

So Baptism of the Holy Spirit means to Immerse in the Holy Spirit!!!!...Abi

Tcwork:

Is it not English they used in writing the scripture. You believe the scripture has another meaning for the word?

Yes! I do

Scripture uses the word in other instances that doesnt infer dipping like:

Baptism of the Holy Spirit

And pls dnt tell me its spiritual


because if you say so, then you have to explain the spiritual dipping excersice

Tcwork:

So your point is that, you do not know the right mode of baptism right? Because I am open to learn from you

My point is it is wrong to state that immersion was the mode used to baptize Jesus. If you have a contrary opinion pls show me scripturally.

Tcwork:

Do you have any verse that showas baptism was not done by immersion??

Do you have any verse that shows that it was done by immersion?

Tcwork:
A body of water does not only infer a river.
I know many churches that have a pool of water specifically for the purpose of immersion

Is this scriptural?

So can u show me scripturally where Cornelius was baptized in a pool?

We are talking scripture not sentiment

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First thing first, i used river to refer to a body of water. I have not been to cornelius house before but i know there would be no body of water in his house.

On the case of him having a pool, that is assumption. But one thing is clear:

1. Baptism doesn't have to be in a body of water. It can take place anywhere.

U keep asking to provide a verse that points out what mode was used in Cornelius home. Like i said the bible is silent on that. Same with every other instance of water baptism in the bible.

If u have a verse that point out immersion as the mode of baptism that was done. Please point it out. Because u r d one who said immersion is the scriptural standard. Provide proof!!

Tcwork:
You keep showing me scripture's that talk about getting baptized. I agree to all those scriptures. The issue is that you are saying these scriptures were talking ofor a new kind of baptism. Yet you have not shown anything to prove this.
Where was it indicated that these baptism was carried out without water?

Please can u quote where i said there is a new kind of baptism

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you earlier said baptism must be done where there is a body of water. You said that was the new testament standard.

I showed you that you are wrong by showing you the baptism of cornelius and his household which was not done in any body of water but in his house.

I am not the one who claims one method is a standard and all others are wrong scripturally. So I do not have anything to prove.

However, if I wanted to assume like u. I would say the Baptism of cornelius was certainly not done by immersion because Cornelius house was certainly not built on top on a river. But i know that if i do that, i am inferring. because the bible doesnt say how it was done.

Just the same way the bible is silent on what mode was used for those done in a body of water.

If you have a verse where the bible is specific on what mode was used please quote it here

Tcwork:

I am not getting your point. All baptism is done in the name of the father son and holy ghost.
Baptism is not just taking a bath. It's a spiritual ordinace done in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost.
That is the meaning of baptism.
Simple it means to immerse in water in the name of the Father the Son and Holy Ghost.
Please if there is another way kindly explain it

You will not get my point for two reason:

1. I quoted someone else not you

2. You refuse to be open minded

New testament usage of water baptism doesnt always mean to immerse in water. No where in the new testament does it say that baptism was done by immersion inside water.

if you can prove it. post the scripture

Barristter07:


" It was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation (Jesus ) perfect through suffering as part of his plan to glorify many children, " Heb 2:10

The one through whom everything exist made Jesus perfect, don't you read ? Mumu

Jesus own nothing and yet he is KING of kings and LORD of lords

Rev 19:16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

livingchrist:
mumu, Are we talking about Hebrews or Romans11vv36.


What you idiot failed to understand is that you just established that Jesus and the father are one being.
If all things came through the father and son, it makes them co creator, Roman 11vv36 applies both to the father, son and holy spirit.

Thank you for that name Barrister Stupid man. He is ignoring all things came through the son. When Emusan pressed him. He now said the all things used in the father and the all things used with the son are different. Very yeye fellow

madegreatbygrace:



Before you start jumping up and down, note this.
The problem most Christians have is that they don’t read the Bible together. Reading the Bible together means reading the whole book from Genesis to revelation consistently, so as to get a better understanding.

Kenneth Hagin once said this:

“ You can’t build a doctrine around the book of acts because the narratives revolve around a young church that had not fully understood the finished work “.


I totally agree with him on this.

Why?

Because the early church didn’t get everything right at the early stage. It is an eyewitness account and not a book of revelation which can be used for doctrines. They made mistakes. They learnt, unlearned and relearned.


Examples?

“But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:35‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

I’m sure Peter had wished he didn’t make the above statement because God doesn’t accept those who WORK righteousness. He accepts those that have faith in Christ Jesus.

I could give you more instances where they initially got it wrong.


Now consider this:

“I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other. For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.”
‭‭I Corinthians‬ ‭1:14-17‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

What!

A whole Apostle is thanking God he only baptized a few. He went on further to say Christ didn’t send him to baptize. This is when the full revelation came, when they finally realized the significance of water baptism.

MATTHEW 28:18-20 (KJV and NRSV) And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you.

Stop saying what you don't know sir. Read Jesus's command.

Yet the army and police keeps denying the shooting of unarmed protesters. The evil that resides in the heart of the black man is something else

petra1:


Very intact

1Co 4:3
But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord..

So where is your own sense

So correcting someone is the same as judging the person abi........use your God given brain for once

petra1:


The lord

where art thou sense ??

genkins:


That's how they brainwash them by saying there is hierarchy In church.. That a senior pastor can rebuke a junior pastor but only the General Overseer can rebuke a senior pastor.

The General Overseer can do what he like as it is only God that can caution him..

I laugh in swahili

Mumu people.....they have all been brainwashed.

cbright4real:
Bros forget it ooo, not all ladies. I had one boyfriend before I dated the man I got married to and for my ex nothing like sexual intercourse. I can say it with my mouth open dat d man I got married to 8s the one that deflowered me.

You were a virgin so your case is different

genkins:


He will say we should leave Paul to God. He is a product of a failed pentecostal enterprise

Dude is all shades of brainless

petra1:


You’re wrong . The head of local assembly is the pastor there .

1 Corinthians 4:15-16 (KJV)
15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. 16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.

Who Else in the congregation could have been senior to Paul . Kindly show us from scripture

You quoted Titus 2:15..that one should rebuke with all authority.. Dont you understand that authority here is derived from the scriptures and not office/earthly administrative office in a church establishment?


Titus was sent to Pastor that church . So he rebuked by his Pastoral authority just as Paul would do.



Wrong ! It means if a man does what he does by his Biblical conviction in his doctrine you can’t judge him . He has right to his conviction



It doesn’t matter the translation . The principle remains



A pastor can rebuke elders under him . He is their spiritual father . Paul can rebuke Timothy and Timothy can rebuke members or
Leaders who are his Surbodinates . Paul instructed Timothy And Titus to appoint indiciduals as elders to start with .

Titus 1:5 (KJV)
5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

so who rebukes paul?

Guys my advice, avoid any woman that tells u she has only had one boyfriend before you and that is the only guy she has had sex with. Na lieeeeee!!!!!

Wike be like, u people have lived your lives, Goan die in peace and leave me alone