₦airaland Forum

Beremx:
I am still finding it hard to believe this....

Why should even any sensible individual believe a people who known for selling counterfeit.
Believe their nonsense at your own peril.

IPOBrep:
The 2 were among those that visited him when he was sick, remember?.

The channels TV reporter who broke the news of buhari trip to Saudi arabia from Landon is dead.

The data of his flight log and CCTV camera at the Casablanca and Saudi airport can not be erased easily

The minutes of meeting of the AU can not also be erased easily.

Some people have the video clip. Just waiting for APC to release their first rebuttal

Your lie can make even angels say God is Great.

Whoever believes this myth is a bigger fool.

NonsoWow:
Kanu's messages are gaining traction by the day. Even FFK is now spreading the gospel of Jubril. Kanu is so popular in the east today that many Igbos in the east have decided not to vote in 2019 in honour of Kanu's great sacrifices.

When people who hardly know what they really want talk you wonder if they are going to say anything different.

Why are Biafrans poking their nose into Nigerian-s business?

Why not disturb Ekweremadu and Abaribe to sponsor a bill that will make you have your lefeledum and stop disturbing the rest of us with your history of selling counterfeit stories and materials to people.

Ejimagift:
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Slovakia will allow Islam when Saudi Arabia allows building of churches and Buddhist temples in mecca. Bloody islamist

Is it normal to allow a teacher who says one plus one is three to teach your child or a teacher who says one plus one is two?
A responsible parent will go for the latter than the former.
Similarly, Saudi Arabia is rejecting such false teaching of Christianity hence the need to stop such centres from being built in their country since they understand the correct concept of worship and also knowing that the teachings of Christianity are false: where 'God' (Jesus) became man and ended up in the tummy of one of His creature (Mary) so he could make her impure for forty days (according to Jewish law).
And this God walked and talked, and preached and ate and was betrayed by his own and was hung on a tree, and was buried in a sepulchre and resurrected after three days (as you claim which is Biblically false with evidence to prove)and ascended and will becoming back at end of the world in rapture or Armageddon or wherever one. you choose to believe.
And you expect a normal human being to accept such being as God?!
Are you people normal at all?

Read the history of Saudi Arabia you will see they understand what it means to safe guards ones faith and that is why they will deny any false worship for being upheld in their land which I completely and whole-heartedly support.
If you like call me Shekau or a terrorist I don't give a hoot.

friendlyadvice:
What's this one saying?

What he is saying is you are too short sighted to understand.

Islaam will spread to. every corner of the world whether they accept it now or not.
Islaam will be recognized and practiced in Slovakia.

Curlieweed:
Shitslam is a contagious mental disease exacerbated by obsessive head slamming.

Good move by the Slovakians in instituting an effective quarantine.

Hey! kid.
just wait a little. I see another history repeating itself here.

The time is coming and it is almost here.
It can be delayed but can never be denied.

friendlyadvice:
Way to go lets stomp out that evil religion from the world

I expected dump head like you to speak.
One day whether they like it or not Muslims in Slovakia will be recognized and they shall practice their religion in peace.

The Polytheist of Makkah during the prophet's time did their bid and concocted all forms of treaty and threats, but when the victory came the whole of Makkah accepted the religion.

So those of you still fooling yourself keep at it, but you will sorely disappointed God willing.

This is what I see happening in the not too distant future.

JeromeBlack:
Just as I expected, you did not really address the points I made.

If islam is so great, why did it take secular law to stop slavery? Why is sharia lacking in anti-slavery laws?

Your religion and God are full of hypocrisies. God mandated that the prophet should have more than 10 wives but for the rest, they should have a maximum of 4. That is dishonesty and favouritism. How can God be so biased?

Lastly, every sharia compliant country has failed to have any decent human rights. If sharia is so great, why are sharia countries so backwards? They never have good human rights records, they never win the world cup or dominate the olympics. They lag behind in scientific achievements etc

Shari'ah countries are backwards?
By whose standards?

If you said scientifically and technologically backward I may agree to an extent, but if you talk about morally and socially backward I will tell you for free that the West is yet to show is worst side when we compare it to the Muslim world.

As for your claim of hypocrisy why the noble prophet of Islaam married the women he married were simply because Almighty God did not permit him to divorce any of his wives and like I said, these marriages were based on so many factors not only sensual fulfillment which I can't start elaborating because of your wrong perception.

Saudi 'Arabia today is the only Shari'ah compliant country I know of and she is not lacking in whatever aspect you speak of.

You always shouting Human Rights, human left.
Saudi Arabia still remains the place to be.
If were to look closely at Human Rights records the West you hold up as the standard has violated more Human Rights than the any Shari'ah compliant country you point at.

Who instigated the wars in Libya, Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq in order to sell weapons?
Who?
You think we don't know about the APAC body who always have a say on who becomes the president if America.

You think because so group of people who gathered to write down some laws called 'Human Rights ' and whoever does not tow their line of doing things is either they take it (democracy) or take bombs.

All Muslim countries were doing fine before the West started foisting down on the Muslim world to take democracy but today you can see the results of it all from Somalia to Iraq to Syria.

Now winning Olympics is now the standard?
what a tow faced round about argument.
Look at the most peaceful places on earth today they have not even won a medal worthy of now is it Sweden or Denmark?

please, let's not stretch this argument.

CodeTemplar:
Just have in back of your mind that Igbo's are everywhere and they go in sync with ND.

Please, don't drag the ND along with you.
I am a Niger deltan from Edo state to be precise.
I know for a fact that Niger deltan do not align with the Ibo seceesionist idea, but maybe Rivers and Cross rivers states apart from these, I don't know if any ND state that aligns with you guys.
Delta, Edo and Bayelsa are out of the picture when you talk about Ibo and ND.

It should be known that Nairaland is far from from reflecting the over all feelings and the possible outcome of the forth coming elections.
Whatever happens here stays here.
Don't bank on the likes you have and shares they don't really count when it comes to the crunch.

oilPUSSY:
How many Northerners are in Anambra to compare with Igbos in the Kaduna ?
These are the things you have to put into consideration before you start your zombie analysis.
And for your information, 4 non igbos are holding sensitive positions in Anambra today while one is a commissioner.
I don't want to discuss about Ebonyi state because you know what is going on there.
What of IMO state ?., Who doesnt know the kind of love Okorocha have for Northerners ?

Keep your bigotry to yourself.

Must northerners populate the whole eat for them to be recognized.
Without any shadow of a doubt ibos are worst bigots if one were to go by factual analysis. Yet they want us to entrust Nigeria to them when they have not really shown the same level of trust the Yoruba and Hausas have reposed in them.
Many of my friends tell me the kind of ordeal they face in Onitsha whenever they go there to buy some materials.
You can't simply deny the reality on ground.
Ibos have shown more hatred for the north than any other tribe and yet, the north still. welcome them. with open hands.
Can we say this for the easterners?
Can we say they are this open?
If we were to play this ethnic card you guys keep pulling out you will come out worst.

ideynl1:
This thread is propaganda.

These names do not have any appointment with elrufai's cabinet.

If true, they should post the link.

Is this how you argue.
first, you denounce that what was said is not a fact.
Then you naively request for it as a fact?
what do you call this kind of reasoning?
The one who denies should table is evidence not this weak argument of trying to be clever by half.

CodeTemplar:
The fact that you see Atiku as Igbo Messiah speaks a lot. Isn't Bubu a Messiah to west cos of Osinbajo?

Even at that, what matters is the votes.
The question is, does the East have the numbers to upset the apple cart(votes from the north) ?
Your guess is as good as mine.

Chosen1984:
Because of One Person u had a conversation with??

The Hunger in the land didn't bite on ghost!! It was human beings it hit on!!

Secondly , Northern votes alone cannot give Pmb the win!!

Keep deluding yourself into thinking that northen votes count for nothing.
They are the deciding factor of every outcome of most elections.
Go and do some little research on electoral statistics and see for yourself.

More than fifty percent votes come from the north alone.
Easterners will only show some strength which will not be really decisive since Biafra issue will make many of them apolitical and as for the southerners(where I hail from) they can't really boast of the numbers and as for the west, APC still has a very strong hold there and I dare say, the election is likely to be won by PMB based in these factors.

CodeTemplar:
The bike must have been an electric one and thus noiseless for you to hear all that stuff so clearly from an illiterate northerner who I am sure can't speak so audibly.
If I slap this OP enh...

You don't have any evidence to counter his claim yet it was convenient for to debunk them just like that.

I can tell you for free reporting directly from Edo State that most northerns I have come across fancy Buhari way way ahead of the new Igbo Messiah called Atiku.

Hate him all you want, there are many northerners who will more than double the votes from the East no matter their hatred for the president.

And most of you gullibly think votes are won by the amount of likes and shares you get on your comments in Nairaland.
it's just a matter of time.
That day go shock una reach bone.

Edodefender:
You'll never see a Christian turning to muslim, it's always the other way around..

Although I'm now an atheist I respect Christianity so much and love the love and kindness they spread unlike some religion that behead or blow themselves up just to prove their point..

Secondly, I thank God I'm from the great Bini dynasty I don't know what I would have done if I was born a Yoruba or other tribes, thank God for that.

Thirdly buhari must go or Nigeria divide. Let's see if some regions will progress with the south south.

If I say you a being foolish now they would say I am insulting a stranger.
You think because Christians are any better.

This is not insult but a fact, you sound as foolish as your quote.
If we(muslims) blow and behead ourselves as you claim I don't think those aboki in Aduwawa, Upper Siloko, Sapele road other places selling livestock and perishable goods to brain dead folks like you would not be there tomorrow to sell some proteins to you so help you grow some brain cells you can reason with it not your arse.

I don't take these wannabe atheist serious because they are so foolish that they follow anything that trends even when they don't understand what it really is.

JeromeBlack:
Oga, your religion is even one of the worst religions known to man.

For example, can you marry 10 wives? No? But your role model and prophet had more than 10 wives!!

For example, one cannot use the Quran/Hadith to rule against slavery. One has to actually use secular law. Did you know that the last countries to eradicate slavery were muslim countries? Google is your friend!


For example, it is commanded in islam that women cannot marry non believers but muslim men are allowed to marry christians/Jews. That is classic misogyny



And this is a book/religion you want to use to govern a nation? Nonsense

You want to lecture about my religion?

As for the prophet marrying 10 wives that is a specially assigned to him by Almighty God based on certain conditions which only applied to him.
It Amy suprise you to know that out of all these women more than half were either widows or previously married women who were divorced legally by their previous husbands and he only married a virgin Aisha ,May Allah be pleased with her(which you people love to use as a weapon to discredit his prophethood) and mind you, this lady never complained for once that she was treated in a manner unbefitting of a married woman.

Alla his wives agreed and loved him for who he is not what you warped 21st century ever erratic standards want to impose on us.


On the matter of slavery; slavery as always being there since time immemorial.
What Islaam came to do is manumit people through a more organised fashion not a smash and grab approach which would have resulted in more blood shed and what have you.
The topic is very vast so, it is better we leave it for the topic in contention.

I still maintain religion especially Islaam is far more better than any political system you can come up with.

Democracy as widely believed to be government by the people, of the people and for the people is a ruse which its initiators knew gullible people like you would fall for.

Democracy as a system is really meant for the 1% not you or me.
Imagine a system where campaigns are the only means one can get into any position of importance.
The chain is very simple which is, candidates need campaign to win, campaign needs money to work, money comes from God fathers(in form of big corporations ) and God fathers need corruption for them to recoup what they spent and interest and you think democracy is still the best bet apart from God's law i.e the Shari'ah where campaigns is not allowed nor seeking for such position, but sometimes based on consultation by God conscious and foresight driven individuals not like in democracy where votes are based on numbers of the people you can fool.
where the vote of an armed robber is equal to the vote of a honest hardworking guy.
were a vote of a prostitute is equal to the vote of a loving and faithful wife and mother.
where the vote of a drunkard is equal to the vote a clergyman.

Is this the system where the bad is rewarded because most people are so dump and foolish to know their right from left.

let me drop my own here.

Purplekush:
I'm seriously fighting the urge to tell you to go how stupid that sounds.

First first... Prove that there is a God. Then we can now go to whether religion should be promoted or not.

let's apply something logical and I hope you will be patient enough to agree with it.

If I told you these words you've strung together into beautiful and meaningful sentence are a result of happenstance simply because I can't see the writer will it be sensible enough to say these words came by themselves and arranged themselves without any cause behind it?
it would make me look foolish and illogical.

Similarly, if you were to look into the cells in our body and it's organelles and how they perform different functions in making sure our body system does not shut down then you have to agree with me that these structures and functions of our body don't just happen as a result of some widely believed random-self-assembly of some matter that appeared from nothing to create this vast array of microcosms of cells, organs, tissues and even some nano bits of workings happening every second in our body without our approval.

Can you tell me that all these function were as a result of nature? or what?
Because it is would totally illogical to tell me that nothing crested something or order came from disorder or that this world just created itself without any cause.

It even sounds stupid to think that way.
Prof. Richard Dawkins tried explaining this to an audience some time ago and it made him really looked stupid.

You can't deny your existence simply because you can see the brain behind all these.
Your mind is too small to conceive the many things that are yet to be discovered yet you are bold in ignorance wrapped in arrogance to claim all these things just happened.

If we were to stretch this argument you will see how foolish it will sound for one to be an atheist.

For your information, I am a Muslim not a Christian

Josh2x:
Tell that to your northern fellows

I am telling you so as to save you from your stupidity you are mistaking for intelligence.
Give me good reasons why religion is responsible for all your claims aside political reasons and how will tell you how not believing in God is worst.

Infinityyyyy:
This God must be a tribal God then... He did this, did that...just in favour of the Israelites...hehe... This kind of God can never be useful to Africans... He loves the Jews and hates Africans...

Hmmm... how convenient blaming a being you don't believe in his existence.
If this is not stupidity I don't know what is.

God of the Europeans and the Jews and not God of Africa?
When Africans chose to be more individualistic and less collective in their approach to life what do you expect.

Your a case is like a student blaming the teacher for poor performance when he ought to have read and more focused on his weakness, but like an intellectual weakling he conveniently passes the buck to the teacher.

I have not really come us a reasonable atheist especially the ones from Africa the Western atheist is a little bit better though you are tied with the same rope.

Josh2x:
Bunch of jagons

Laws were never made cos of fear of god

Religion is the worst thing to ever happen to humanity

I usually tell insecure people like you that religion has never inherently be any problem to humanity, but people the people who choose to use it to manipulate others for their own personal gains.

My religion(Islaam) does not command me to be unjust, unruly or unreasonable to any one no matter their race colour or ethnic background, but it urges to show some level of bias albeit, objectively to my religion.
Those who claim religion is the worst thing to happen to humanity are themselves in a bigger mess and more incoherent when it comes to speaking the truth without being subjectively bias.

sureheaven:
Islam is the worst thing ever to have happened to this world.

The religion is worst than the deadliest diseases in earth. Wherever u hear the word Islam or the name Muhammed, just know there must be problem.

It will never be well with the founder of Islam .

This quote is a clear definition of idiocy, imbecilic retardation and symptomatic of a compound ignoramus, intolerant two faced bigot.

Read this:
"If any think that Allah will not help him (His Messenger) in this world and the Hereafter, let him stretch out a rope to the ceiling and cut (himself) off: then let him see whether his plan will remove that which enrages (him)!"

Qur'ān 22:15

DBPOWER:
As a Muslim , I disagree fundamentally with the “reputable scholars” . A lot of scholars from the Arab world especially Saudi Arab are on govt payroll and as such can not maintain full independence in thier fatwas.
Fatwas usually have political undertones depending on who your pay master is and your generally ideoligical leanings.

If you are aware of the origins of Saudi Arabia post world war 1 and the role played by wahabi scholars in issuing very questionable fatwas.
You can read this article I found very relevant.
Raja AbdulHaq – Throughout Islamic history, and during times of trials and tribulations, true leaders emerge to fight for what Islam stands for, while other public figures and scholars surface as true obstacles to the mission of Islam. The role of the latter, better known as scholars of the Sultan, is critical for the continuation of oppression, injustice, and heresies by giving “religious legitimacy” to these corrupt leaders and hence their actions.

Religious legitimacy is given by these tyrants’ scholars through any combination of the following:

* Highlighting the Furu’ [branches] of Islam on the expense of the Usul [roots] since comprehending the latter protects minds from being fooled by some out-of-context Furu’

* Focusing on the Islamic concept of obeying the ruler without explaining the firm conditions the ruler must adhere to before being obeyed, or taking into consideration whether the ruler is just or oppressive.

* Ignoring the sound position of Islam in fighting oppressors and oppression by undermining the prophetic call to standing up against unjust rulers for it being the highest form of Jihad.

* Forbidding any criticism of the ruler and any call for freedom or justice with the excuse of protecting the Ummah from Fitnah, chaos, and division.

* Praising the rulers for any minor goodness and overlooking their major offenses while slandering, by questioning their faith and adab (manners), those who criticize them.

* Blaming the Ummah’s downfall on our sins, and not the conflicting agenda of the rulers.

To counter the attempts of corrupt scholars and preachers to idolize tyrants, one needs to keep the following in mind:

* Understanding the definition of scholar, Imam, preacher, Quran reciter, etc. is essential, not everyone that is a public speaker is automatically a scholar

* Scholars’ main responsibility is raising awareness and helping people see the truth. Their focus should be on enjoining the good and forbidding the wrong; that’s the essence of Islam. The death of fellow humans and Muslims, or the oppression practiced against them isn’t a political disagreement; it’s a call for action.

* The “Scholar’s flesh is poisonous” idea is an un-Islamic paradox. Scholars and public figures are only humans who can be wrong, commit a sin, or worse, go against the teaching of Islam. Allah says: “And recite to them, [O Muhammad], the news of him to whom we gave [knowledge of] Our signs, but he detached himself from them; so Satan pursued him, and he became of the deviators.” [7:175]

* Islam nurtures free men who can think for themselves and seek knowledge and intelligence to be able to lead the world to be a better place. Islam doesn’t breed slaves who blindly follow their masters without checks and balances. Great companions, like Omar bin al-Khatab, who was promised paradise, were questioned and criticized publicly for even minor issues. Nonetheless, Some companions had different opinions with the Prophet (peace be upon him) in non-divine positions.

* The ultimate objective of Islam is establishing justice on earth by preserving human dignity. Any attempt by any individual to misguide us, mislead us, or divert us from that path is a betrayal call to the mission of Islam. Allah confirms this in Surat al-Baqarah: “Indeed, those who conceal what We sent down of clear proofs and guidance after We made it clear for the people in the Scripture – those are cursed by Allah and cursed by those who curse” [2:159]

* In terms of Fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence), raising awareness and speaking up against public figures who make mistakes or take shady positions is not only exempted from backbiting rulings, but is also recommended, as Allah says: “Allah does not love the public utterance of hurtful speech unless (it be) by one to whom injustice has been done; and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.” [4:148]

As our Ummah goes through the calamities of colonization, occupation, tyranny, and oppression, we must live up to the challenges ahead of us to lead it to a safe haven. Our prosperity, freedom, and independence start by nourishing inner shrewdness to be equipped to reject all idols, starting with those who use the religion of freedom to enslave people to power.

Dear brother, you mean to say all these scholars do not know that these ayaats and ahadeeth exist for them to take the position they took in these matter?

SubhaanaLlah! what a claim.
This is nothing but clear misguidance.
Do you think you know better than Allaah who instituted these rules and laws that we are following according to the understanding of our pious predecessors.

You must be a scholar to know all these things.
You want to democratize Islaam for us because it suits your whims and desires.

And as for the Saudi scholars being paid by the Saudi authorities then they have predecessor from the companions who did something similar during their time.

So using that ad hominem to undermine whatever message they have passed is simply trying to be clever by half.

Tell me out of those countries where demonstration were held how many were able to get what they were demonstrating about?
how many!?
Is it Libya.That is in ruins today with different factions here and there?
Is it Syria?
Tell me? You can't neglect what Allaah has decreed and what His trusted scholars are saying with honesty and you still remain normal.

The son of prophet Nuuh(alayhis salaam) exhibited this same attitude against Allah's decree by choosing human logic over revelation and we all know how he ended up.

It is better to accept this

iammo:
Africans and useless arguments that contribute nothing to humanity and human development, I wonder if it is as a result of melanin, heavy carb diet, donkey sized genetals or the hot sun. The next leader of common wealth states (which controls at least 1,/3 of world trade) visited us, yet our concern is about who visited who and royal logistics rather than find a trade arrangement to lift us out of unemployment and extreme poverty

It is still part of the problem.
You can't leave the Prima cause and discuss about the tertiary causes. how do you even know your right from your left kf you can't define certain taraditional lines.

ngadaAwo:
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what's this one saying?

in the good old days

a king does not leave his kingdom to embark on this kind of journey

shows you how monarch is useless in Nigeria and why it must be abolished

This is exactly what professor Adesannmi said in one of his facebook post.
His mother is their equivalence not Prince Charles.
And it's a same Oba of Benin whom it popularlyn said 'e no dey go tranfser' indeed tansferwd himself to meet a lower person in his status.

And sadly, most youths of today still suffer from this mental slavery.

comos:
No thanks to Buhari and FG for inviting our kings to be humiliated in Abuja

How is it s Buhari's busimess?
Do you people think at all?

I'll advice you to try and widen your "horizon"

Try and travel to civilized countries.. .it'll help you alot.

Making Ellen DeGeneres statement as your favorite quotes says it all.
When morally decrepit people see they are are sinking alone they look for whatever they can hold on to so others can sink with them..
Who has your 21st century ,morally vacated civilized life helped?

OKorowanta:
Thank the Nigerian population for dat. Nigerians dey follow anything.

Even flies may soon get a twitter account.

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Simonrom:
Lol
Keep talking like you are in the future. Whether you like it or not, I said my opinion which is most likely the reality. If you have a better option or way out, communicate it to the necessary quarters and stop spilling trash here

My friend,your opinion is better left for the trash can because you said nothing reasonable.
Read the prof's arguments and tell me if any right thinking human being(if you are indeed one) won't agree with his points.
I bet you did not read the article at all or you read half way due to your laziness which is apparent from the way you reacted.

In the end, you may as well keep fooling yourself with that Stockholm syndrome you call reality.

haywire07:
Na Edo boys na. I can swear with my three balls

You may be very well right and can also be totally wrong.
Don't always jump to conclusion.
Na Edo guy I be and I know say most of our boys no good kaka, but the possibility of ruling them out of doing it is very slim because na Italy be their base.
I hope they prove me wrong.

HigherEd:
Okebukola works with unesco he would tell you more
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/11/theres-nothing-like-26-unesco-funding-requirement-anywhere-okebukola/

Please sir, don't let any half-brained imbecilic idiot discourage you from saying what their oxygen deprived cranium can't fathom.

HigherEd:
Okebukola works with unesco he would tell you more
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/11/theres-nothing-like-26-unesco-funding-requirement-anywhere-okebukola/

Please sir, don't let any half-brained imbecilic idiot disturb you from saying what their oxygen deprived cranium can't fathom.