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And my biggest headache here on nairaland is you have many Christians who claim to love Jesus Christ who was never a supporter of oppression or oppressor,but yet they support and love the oppressors of innocent Muslims.

How many Christians here knows the position of a typical jew about Jesus Christ and his mother?

Do you know a Jew considers Jesus Christ a bastard?
Do.you?
Read Jewish Talmud and get information there.

Do you know a Jew sees Mary the mother of Jesus as anprostitute?
Read their Talmud and get informed too.
In fact, just Google it ,it will pop up without any delays.

Yet,those who claim to love Christ than Christ himself are falling heads over heels for the same people that despise him and his mother simply because they are killing muslims.


Is this normal?

The truth is,most Christians are just as confused a toddler learning new words.

You don't honestly know your left from your right.

You have to be human first to understand that even your very own Christian brothers in Palestine are also victims of this unreasonable blind hate.

Keep it up.

I know one day, just one day,Muslims will turn the tide.

I hope you guys can do better with your humanity.

Dear Christians,

Why do you need to be told that Palestine also have Christians for you to not support the murder of Muslim children by Israel?

Why do you need to be told that Israel has more Muslims than Christians for you to stop supporting the bombing of innocent families in their homes?

Why do you need to be reminded that Israel is a Jewish Nation not a Christian Nation, for you to stop cheering as Israel slaughtered innocent people? Would this mass murder and slavery in 2021 be ok if they were actually a Christian Nation oppressing Muslims?

Why is it always you, your people who will be seen reacting with laughter and happiness on every news thread that says Palestinian children were killed by Israel.

Do you not notice that for Muslims those who kill innocents are usually a defiant group? These people would ordinarily also kill Muslims. Name any extremist group whose members are Muslims and they don't kill Muslims. This tells you that the general Muslim community is ALWAYS against them. But how come in your case your Church, Institutions and average individuals support killing of Muslims? You mount the pulpit and support Israel's crime against innocent Palestinians and just anywhere where Muslims are being killed.

You need to do better. Hate for Muslims does not fix the issues with Christianity. Not one of your Pastors on world stage can say your religion's position on homosexuality, your religion is being interpreted per Church so that anyone does what he likes, and like 500 other issues that is eroding your belief. None of these are caused by Muslims, you should know your enemies. It is not us. Stop supporting anything anti Muslim, you are not as bad as you are presenting yourselves I will want to believe.

Written by Eseoghene Al- Faruq

PS: The title is mine.

Andyvilly:
stop being an emotional fruit bowl, people like are still crying that Christ died. Am not holding it brief for rapist but we should consider what led to it at the first place. To much salty tears is drowning your brain.

I am glad you perfectly described your confused self in my mention.
Its fits your perfectly like glove ogre!.
Like I always say,go get a life!

JONSYN7154:
Abeg make una no vex, I won ask question.

Which state this Aisha Yusuf come from?

Na Edo state oh unfortunately.

Andyvilly:
What if there's a plot twist to this whole tale, men are dangerous I know, that includes the husband, can't be completely off the hook like that just by saying nothing happened between him and the said girl.

Guy, are you for real?!
As in,are you normal?
There is victim here and you are vomiting rubbish.
I guess if she was your sister ,you will say the same thing,right?

hucknall:
It would have been a bit better if she was a lady. But she is a child and they just destroyed her childhood.

Nothing is better here.
Rape is rape whether old or young.

Blessade:
Perveted young boys.

If I create a thread now on this nairaland to teach boys how to win and fvck girls, una go feel sey I be mumu.

Do you even have a sister?
What about your mum?
I think she did a pretty bad job raising a jerk like you.
Wetin go make you suggest that kain yeye thing?!

You should be teaching boys how to make money and marry girls responsibly not that rubbish.
I hate nonsense!

Mikecold:
You can't be making nusiance of yourself on public forum and expect not to be corrected

Islam is a national security burden, Islamic Terrorists that observed Ramadan yesterday affect every Nigerian

Everyone including Igboho has a right to talk on the Terrorist idealogy which Terrorists proudly owe allegiance to

How has Islam affected your life?
How?
Some of una no get work.

effort1:
Lolz.

Is that why a typical northern Muslim will not want to pray in a mosque where a southern Muslim leads prayers?

Is that also evidence that you are one?

Where do you find this?
Even if we find such happening it shows those who do it a wholly ignorant of the religion.

I have been prayed countless times behind a Yoruba Imaam with vast majority of the followers been northerners here in the north.
We have so a many examples of that.
So,stop sounding intelligent on this because obviously you are not.

effort1:
So, a northern Muslim must dictate to a southern Muslim?

Are you saying southern Muslims are second class Muslims?

Who be this one?
You better go and hide yourself o.
In Islam your identity only comes up when we want to KNOW you.
There's no regionalism,ethnicsm,racism or tribalism in Islam.
You can be using that for that your debased Oduduwa imaginative nation.
Again:the rules that governs a Muslim in Saudi Arabia is still the same rule that governs a Muslim in a deep remote village in Chad.
So let that sink in.

Divoc:
https://dailypost.ng/2021/05/12/ibadan-muslims-defy-sultans-directive-observe-eid-el-fitri-prayer-on-wednesday/?amp=1

This headline is all shades wrong.

The imaam is just defying known Islamic rule.

pricklewane:
I agree with this falsehood so to say but tell us what sphere of the Nigerian economy can we confirm this "industrious" by Igbo that you talked about aside Okrika n spare part ?

See,I am not into your trivalistic merry go round chest beating contest.
I don't really care who does what or dominates the other.
I have said my piece.

pricklewane:
What business are Igbos popular with ? Aside okrika n spare parts sales Yoruba outnumber igbo 86 - 3 with the remaining taken by other Nigerians. Be it banking insurance shipping technology market space retail insurance whole sale, autos just name it.

Do not give them what they do not deserve. If you no any sphere aside okrika n spare part sales that Igbos dominate tell us.

Did you follow my response with the other guy?
I was askimg him tgye same questions.
So,bros,let's be calming down o...

But,in all ,Igbo's are still the most industrious people in this country.

PrinceOfLagos:
The Igbos may not be educated like the Yorubas (All thanks to Obafemi Awolowo's free education) but, I can tell you that the Igbos are the most successful tribe in Nigeria .

How do you define success?
Is it in terms of business or what specifically?
And mind you,Igbos are only popular with businesses not really anything that has to do with education.
So,what's your point?

The stupidity of the hard evidences of David Hundeyin

On April 15th, 2021, David Hundeyin, writing on the Nigeria online news platform , Sahara reporters, sparked a massive online storm which has since culminated into a trending hashtag across social media platforms requesting for the resignation of the Nigerian minister of communication , Dr. Isa Ali Pantami , apparently for “links” with the Taliban and Al-Qaedah.

David went on to accuse Dr. Pantami of being a gradualist jihadi whose veil has just been lifted for all to see by the “hard evidence” he presented.

It is surprising how such a shoddily argued article of this nature will generate the type of furore it has since generated.

Surprising.

Until you understand the politics.

The surprise withers away when you realize that the most active purveyors of this piece of trash journalism are separatists from the Southeast ; disgruntled politicians who are still smarting from their defeat in the last presidential elections; rabble rousing activists like Omoyele Sowore , who’s online platform has been and is still being used as a platform of hate in the Nigerian cyber space and of course our usual adversaries: the religious Islamophobic Zealots of the Christian association of Nigeria (CAN) who think Nigeria is ripe for another crusade.

I will not preclude, of course, the usual fifth column of retarded Muslim hypocrites.

If not for the vested interests of the aforementioned groups, how does a sane person conclude that Isa Pantami remains a terrorist sympathizer, gradualist jihadi and al Qaedah affiliate because:

1. “He was an extremist preacher kicked out of university and a mosque in his native Gombe” as reported by wiki leaks

2. He went to the Islamic university Madinah in Saudi Arabia

3. He studied the works of Ibn Uthaymeen who stated that there should be no permanent treaty with the kuffar

4. He made inflammatory statements in the past praising the Taliban and Osama b. Laden

It is an affront to reason, no, a descent into the abyss of insanity to even imagine that these points follow, not to talk of being logically consistent in granting any shred of legitimacy to the claim.

Please don’t take my word for it; let’s take the four points one after the other.

1. The author himself , to treat him the same way he treats others, categorically said about point (1): “…Apart from what is essentially GOSSIP from a wikileaks cable …”

These are his exact words.

Straight from the devil’s mouth.

So essentially point one is gossip.

Let us play a bit of the devil’s advocate, what if he was kicked out of a mosque? What were the extremist views he held then? How does this constitute the ‘hard’ evidence that David of Sahara advocate in his islamophobic diatribe against Pantami? Was the antagonism of the Jews to Jesus even in the Temple evidence that Christ was guilty of EXTREMISM and/or terrorism?

2. This is even more disastrous than the first. Just read the very Guardian article he cites to see how mischievous this individual is and how those who follow him are bereft of any iota of fairness or sincerity. The article itself says:

“formal teaching is of the ultra-conservative kind approved by the Saudi royals but the problem is what happens outside the classrooms, according to former students”

So the university doesn’t itself preach terror according to a former student. How then does one become indicted for attending?

As far as David is concerned one student is credible while the other must be a terrorist. Sounds logical?

Yes, of course when your name is David Hudenyin, craze is logical.

It gets worse, he himself even states: “while it does not itself teach or openly condone terror…”

So if the university doesn’t itself preach or condone terror how does someone become indicted for attending it?

If the radicalization takes place outside classes, where is the evidence that Pantami attended such extracurricular terror indoctrination?

3. His point three was that since Ibn Uthaymeen held that permanent peace treaties cannot be acceptable and Pantami studied with him, therefore Pantami is a gradualist jihadi.

Seriously?!

This absurd logic means studying with anyone with a particular ideology means you have to automatically share the ideology.

How people make these types of stupid assertions and garner deranged followers is simply beyond me.

The majority of teachers I have studied with are Christians, ergo, I am a Christian.

Do you see the absurdity of this?

Any student of political science will study the works of Niccolo Machiavelli, especially The Prince, does it make them Machiavellian?

I am almost sure that Sowore will at least be familiar with Marxist/Leninist literature which advocates bloody revolutions as he himself has allegedly advocated. Yet he has the moral authority to provide a platform for an article of this level of stupidity.

By the way : international politics runs on the principle of military might. This is the context in which Ibn Uthaymeen spoke. If you want to turn the other cheek as a personal principle , fine! This will be stupidly suicidal on the international scene where the strong literally eat up the weak.
Iraq, Palestine, Chechnya and others are still living examples of the devastation that the “permanent peace treaty” imposed on us by world powers have wrecked.
Ibn Uthaymeen spoke in the context of nation-states not bandits of the al-Qaedah and Boko Haram persuasion.
In fact this man was instrumental in clipping the wings of radical jihadi movements amongst Muslim youths.

4. His fourth point about Pantami’s utterances is perhaps the only point he has in the ill conceived and ill delivered article of evil.

And even this falls apart when you realize these were views that the minister uttered years ago and has not only verbally dissociated himself from but has had a death threat issued against him by David’s ideological twin on the other divide, Shekau.

I mean Dr Isa Pantami literally called out Muhammad Yusuf, the late leader of Boko Haram, He debated him and yet he is being pressured resign on bogus accusations of terror.
The irony!

People like Sowore whose brand of activism lacks not only vision but basic wisdom preach revolutions. They romanticize people like Che Guevera, Fidel Castro , Vladiimir Lenin , Chairman Mao etc who are responsible for the death of thousands , if not millions, in proletarian revolutions the world over.
When Yele called for violent revolutions that he is still on trial on, wasn’t this the type of bloodletting he was calling to?
Does he denounce these figures and mentors now?
Would he, if he had become president, a seat he will never smell not to talk of acquire , resign because he had once seen these individuals as role models?

It will be ill-advised for Dr. Isa Pantami to even think of resignation and I even think It is high time one stood up to this community of losers.

We definitely need to create our own print and social media platforms which will put our own narrative out there. I should expect a counter trending hashtag that the minister should refuse to resign, and secondly, should not dignify idiots of this nature with a response. People behind the Pantami resignation drive do not care if the nation burns, inasmuch as they achieve their diabolical goals.

It will be wrong to capitulate to such traitors who are ready to sell their souls cheaper than the traditional 30 pieces of silver.

By Ustaad Kabir Al-asfar

RingRoadMafia:
First time I'm seeing these people from the north in the news for something positive

No,it's because of blind hate for the north that most southerners think northerners are not brilliant.
He is just one of many.

oguns222:
You can find the evidence you seek in this link below.

I hope you will realise that you are the one with a useless education.

Lools like your brain is replaced with sawdust already.

Your senseless parents just wasted their money on you and you have turned out to be useless to yourself and the world.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-56846948.

I won't insult your parents since a pig like you deserve no real response.

Whether I read the link or not, it still proves nothing.


You are just a reprobate hater.
That's what you are.
Go get a life!

oguns222:
Pity my condition? Am I the one defending Islamic terrorism?

Some of you are just educated idiots who hardly use their brains when it comes to salient issues.
Can you prove he is a terrorist?
Can you?
Is not all about claims but proofs.

How come a terrorist went abroad to earn a degree in Robert Gordon University and attended programme at Harvard, Cambridge and MIT and " Almighty America" could not snoop down on him and get him arrested and tried, but educated scoundrels like you who can't boast of such educational qualifications shout terrorist , fundamentalist and other rubbish expletives because in your small mind nairaland is the place to vent your stupidity
like i said , i pity your condition.
Don't you see how foolish some of you reason out of hatred?!

Stop muttering rubbish like a toddler learning new words.
At least you have brain use it.
But I doubt if anyone of you use their brains how much more reason.

proclinician:
Taquiya

NO BE ONLY TAQUIYA SINCE THAT'S ALL MOST OF YOUR IGNORAMUS KNOW.

oguns222:
Why is the Islamic terrorist afraid?

Afraid of you?
I pity your condition.

ThEGodFaThEr102:
Yes, because there's no rest for the wicked, sorry terrorist.

He is talking about peopleuke you who lie,cheat and deceive people and expect good from your leaders.

falcon01:
No sleep for the wicked

I know folks like you will readily pounce on this thread with your unguarded ignorance.

He should be having sleepless nights because he cares ,but folks like you will never understand.

RuudVanNisteroy:
The Future Is Female: Nigerian men have failed, let our mothers and sister's rule at local,state and federal level.

Nigerian men have introduced thuggery and bullion van bribery into politics. They have caused wars and insecurity through selfish actions across the nation.

Nigerian men have led the country since 1960 and turned the country to the poverty and corruption capital and the third most misgoverned nation in the world. It is time we gave our mothers and sisters the leadership role in the nation.

Stop talking rubbish!

It's not about gender here is about the character of those who man offices.
The case of Patricia Ette and that of Kemi Adeosun and likes shows you it's about character not sex.

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggarrrr
Isoright.....a real niggarrr ain't doing dating not to talk of marriage......marriage is full of shit...
Most people are scared of the Problem and wahalar that comes with marriage....the shit scares the hell out of them

Marriage na scam i swear.....
a real niggarrr won't do that shit.....baby mama sure me die....too many problems and wahalar in marriage
a real niggarrr will now be in the same roof with one particular pussy for God knows how long
The thought of that shit scares the hell out of me
Coupled with the fact that she won't be allowing me to live my life on the fast lane anymore...she won't allow me smoke my weed, bang other pussy, drink enough bottles.
Not to talk of the fact that my dickkk won't be getting excited for her anymore because my dickkk is used to her already...the love will no longer be there...but we will continue to be pretending that we still love each other probably because of our kids and what society will say
She go dey quarrel and advise me like a mother, sister and wife make i stop those things like alcohol, smoking weed, banging other pussy or make i reduce am..if i nor hear she go come go report to my mum or daddy..or probably person way I dey fear pass for my family...those ones go come call me for family meeting...see wahalar

Damnnn.......mmmmm...he who finds a wife..finds real dope problem and wahalar..and he doesn't know what he has put his hand into

This one needs help.
If marriage na scam could it mean following your logic it means you too were a mistake?

This stupid logic some of you invoke to remain silly and irresponsible is very revolting.

mouthofThegod:
By the time the person claiming to be Buhari and Pantami finish with Nigeria,nothing go remain again except the nation of God,Biafra.
Nigerians never wan get sense and you no go force them.

Why not go voice this you devasws opinions on a Biafra platform.
Confused people.
The last time I checked, Seun the owner and founder of Nairaland is still a Nigerian.

arcahmad:
How l wish that there is no weapons, everywhere is at peace.

It means you have to die or look for another planet not habited by humans.
That's the only way weapons and violence will stop.

businessone:
Religion is a personal affair between you and God.Why must you force people to live the way you want.Hypocrite! It will surprise you after death to realise that you have been fooled by one Arabian throughout your life in this world.

Our religion goes beyond that weak and used lie that "religion is a personal affair".
Calling to good also means enforcing it too.

Does government say,safety is a personal affair ?
No.
That's why they have law enforcement agencies.

We know we don't have angels amongst us,but we won't used that as way of throwing away the baby and the bath water.

Islam is a religion of action,not " God knows what is in my mind " legless position.

[quote author=Ogbeniomo post=101436282]why is it that to obey your gods must be by force?[/]
Why is that to be obey your god(your lust and desire) is by raining curses and insults on me?

This is the kind of liberation your preach.. Hypocrites!
Your liberation, as " liberal" and "secular" as it is can't tolerate me being different unless I conform to your on ever denigrate and debased standards?!.

Some of you can't even argue logically.

As usual many Christians and pseudo Christians are putting their mouth into what is not there business in the first place.

If the north choose not toe your immoral path how is that your business.
And I bet some of you regurgitating rubbish are nkt as half as good as these northeners your love to hate.

Some Igbos whose brothers are dying and eating here in the north will still be vomiting rubbish too.

I Have Been Living In An Alternate World.

I used to think that sex is cheap until yesterday when I discovered that it is now FREE.

You see, I am an 80s kid.

Yesterday I found out that sexual sanity ended with people born in the 1980s.

I mean, if you were born in the 80s (meaning you are between age 30 and 40), no matter how loose or wayward you think you might be in terms of sex, you are actually a Saint compared to those born in the early and late 90s and 2000s.

You see those kids born between 1993/94 and year 2000, they grew up in a world different from ours. A radically sexualized world. Sex is everywhere they look. And sadly on every device they own. Their sexual orientation and habit will make you and I look like Monks and Nuns.

And why is this the case?

This is not a definite claim but I think I have a theory; the proliferation of smartphones and the social media phenomenon made it so.

I will explain further.

I got to know that a young girl aged 23 can have 61 body counts.

I got to know that young girls in their 20s can have 35 body counts.

I am discombobulated by these stats. I really am.

I realized that I had been living in an alternate universe where I thought that sex was expensive and rare, but forgetting that I am an 80s kid.

If I should tell people about my body count, knowing what I now know, I would literally become a JOKE.

As in, the world would LAUGH at me like crazy throughout the whole year. I would become the joke of the decade. Yeah, it's that bad.

Now, back to the reason why I think it is this bad.

When I was in my early and late teens I saw a few X-rated movies. Most of us guys did, except you want to pretend and lie.

But having access to an X-rated movie in those days required days if not months of careful planning and strategizing.

First and foremost, you would need to rent or buy a video cassette recorder otherwise known as VCR from a video cassette rental shop (many of them existed in those days).

Secondly, you needed to plan the TIME and PLACE to watch it ALONE or with friends, usually at home, when your parents are not around because there is ONLY one video player and television in the sitting room for the entire house. Nobody had the luxury of a personal VCR player and TV.

Thirdly, when you start watching you must be careful to shut out your younger ones and be very vigilant just in case an adult was approaching. You could not watch with 100% rapt attention or get carried away.

I hope you got the point.

It was not an easy feat to watch sex, initiate sex or even have sex in those days because the opportunities were rare.

But not anymore with the advent of smartphones and social media platforms. The opportunities to watch sex, initiate sex and have it are now boundless.

And people have this access as early as their teens with smartphones in their hands and social media in the corner.

Teenagers are the most vulnerable and impressionable on matters of sex and sexual adventure because of their ranging hormones. So if they are not properly guided they run the risk of becoming very hyper-sexualized and out-of-control so that by the time they are in the early and late 20s they've had 20 to 30 body counts.

It is easy for them because they don't have the barriers some of us had namely; Time and Place to watch and initiate sex.

It's all in their Smartphones provided they have data.

It is heartbreaking but it is now our reality.

What then is the difference between some young women and whores if at the age of 23 they've had 61 minimum body counts? I honestly see none. It's the difference between six and half a dozen.

Again, if you were born in the 70s and 80s, whatever you thought of those born in those decades and how sexualized they are, they are saints compared to those born in the 90s and 2000s. They are raised in two different worlds.

My children will not own smartphones until they get to a certain age to be determined by me and my wife.

It may not make much difference but it will be a good start.

By Olakunle Allison.

etrange:
I don't really know why people (both theists and atheists) feel the need to go online and call other out. Though belief can be indoctrinated over time, it's hardly ever forced; calling out one another wouldn't lead to anything. An atheist who feels the need to always call out or criticise religious people isn't different from Christians who go around feeling superior and better than others or Muslims who think it's okay to hurt people in the name of Mohammed. On the other hand, a theist who feels the urge to always prove atheists wrong is most likely just feeling insecure in his own belief. It's understandable if these arguments come in specific scenarios where there's a clash of interests. In that case, the issue at hand would be the focus. Otherwise, I'd say live and let live.

Just an opinion.

Pseudo strawmaning.