Jagaban deserves to be rewarded for his loyalty to President Buhari.

Osibanjo seems the perfect candidate.

10mobile:


It appears there is a mix-up here. Attached is what I found at the source you shared (as you can see on the address bar). In fact, you are proving my point here as the Fulani mafia that you are. See how you are actively trying to misinform us all here while the Southern Nairalanders are just watching. They probably think that it's only a 'forum' talk when what we are discussing here could go a long way. Honestly, I love you guys. if people are careless and stupid with what they have, who blames you for taking it and going your way?

Whatever floats your boat mate.

Emyzoloye5:
and they said politics doesn't pay

Lol who said?

It has been paying like crazy since the '60s.

Why do they keep begging this man not to contest?

They don't even realise its making him even more popular and ascribing to him the persona of a political demigod.

10mobile:

This is exactly what I already said. The North keeps trying to make the South think that the number of local governments (which is human creation) and the landmass necessarily reflect the population. And the screenshot you shared is from the OFFICIAL WEBSITE of Kano State Government. We've learned not to believe in such figures thrown around by the likes of Gandollar through the years.

No it is not exactly what you already said because my source isn't the Kano State Government but an independent German Research Organisation.

http://citypopulation.de/php/nigeria-admin.php?adm1id=NGA025

10mobile:

Thank you for your observation. I know that already. But see how my point still stands. If you know a little of comparative statistics, you will know how data sets relate with each other. In this case, if the 'city' of Lagos and the 'city' of Kano (which have no definite boundaries) are compared, the margin is so wide. Then, do you really think that the highly sparse rural populations of Kano could make up the figure for Kano State to get such a wide comparative advantage? Certainly no.

Statistics are never taken in isolation if they are geared for real-life information (which is their actual role). So, you can see the figures with this in mind.

I'm glad you were sincere enough to admit that the populations reported were of Kano & Lagos cities, not states.

However, your postulation that the wide margins between both cities imply similar disparity in the population of the entire states is rather faulty.

This is due to the fact that quite contrary to your assumption, Kano with it's massive land mass (7 x of Lagos) & 44 Lga's (with only a few in the capital) is quite densely populated in the rural areas (see attached), in contrast to Lagos which is extremely densely populated (3,526/km2) but has a tiny land mass (3,559km2)

History555:
This story makes no sense. If an lgbo man choose a northern state as state of origin, did he also change his name. Are you saying that you cannot tell the likely state of origin from the name.

Secondly there are few unity school and so hundreds of thousands of lgbo students, so what makes unity school special such that if you dont go there, you will not go to school.

This story makes no sense

Unity Schools actually constitute less than 5% of the total number of secondary schools in Nigeria.

No sense at all.

When chest beating turns around to bite you in the arse.

The same people daily drumming chest of having higher academic standards than everyone else, are now wailing for having higher academic hurdles than everyone else.

Put your money (or HB pencil) where your mouth is.

DMerciful:
fulanimafia, arewa, simplyleo

Your support for Tinubu is because he is loyal to Bubu, nothing more!

Yes indeed you're right.

Loyalty is rewarded & reciprocated where we are from.

The Jagaban is leaving a legacy of building leaders, and that's why he is considered a great man.

theenchanter:
which part of the North is infrastructuraly developed than the S.East.... NE, NW or NC?

The North West, North Central and less the devastation of BH, the North East.

Why else are you always screaming of marginalisation and abandonment by the FG?

This is not even a matter of debate my friend as I'm an informed witness.

Arrewa:
you people are ones living in denial...

You people are living in propaganda!

Give us more 5yrs with the way our are people embracing education.

Una eyes go soon clear

5 years? Lol.

It's already happening my friend

https://www.nairaland.com/4682192/kwankwaso-meets-pilot-he-sponsored

Bobonnukwu:

List the areas where the North is better than the SE... lets stop all the cul-de-sacs and get down to the basics.

Honestly I think it's rather akin to flogging a dead horse because you will wield vague HDI statistics which hardly reflect the reality we see daily and is therefore unacceptable, and I will continue to emphasise the role of population which is clearly unacceptable to you as well in spite of the rationality of its argument.

However HDI aside, it is a fact that infrastructurally (Quality Roads, Bridges, Railways, Airports etc.) the East comes nowhere close to the North. I know this because I've been to both places, and very recently.

That said, I find this manhood measurement rather juvenile and vain glorious so I will rather pass.

Arrewa:
Abeg spare is that!

Who are the people concocting this fake stats??

In reality the north is in every aspect more better than the south east.

Stop deceiving each with all these fake stats.

The north is today is far better than south east you can only deceive those that haven't been to the east

Most are ignorant, untravelled, and helplessly reliant on statistics they don't even understand.

Tragic.

theenchanter:
not u as a person...... The "U" signifies ur northern govt.

.... Spend more time in school instead of bickering on d internet.

Clearly the circus is in town.

theenchanter:
education is not just d ability to read and write....... It's more about acquiring knowledge. And rather unfortunately, u favor Islamic education over Western education. Islamic education in today's world without it's corresponding Western education is a worthless.

And it's a good thing that the core-north are now embracing Western education. If it had embraced it like half a century ago, it would've developed past this stage and ur rants on population as a justification won't be needed cos people wouldn't even see the need to keep giving birth to children they can't cater for that ended up becoming social menace.

... and somehow you deduced that I favour Islamic over western education from that post?

Genius.

theenchanter:
lol, u're mounting on a cyclic argument cos u think I'm attacking u for ur opinion, I'm only calling u out cos u're lumping 3 regions together to spite one region and still use "population" as a basis to corroborate ur claim. Like u wouldn't know 3 regions will be populated than one region? And if u're determined to still go that way, u can compare the 3 northern regions with d 3 southern regions together.

And yes, poverty amongst other social vices are everywhere in d country, I can't even state where it's rampant now, thanks to d ongoing onslaught in d northern region.

Lol, federal allocation is ur saving grace? Dude, u're beginning to sound funny. Human devt starts by sending kids to school, to healthcare delivery and every other thing will fall into place and we know it's recently the core-north are embracing Western education.

Spare us the population shitt.

Wrong actually. Most, if not all of HDI statistics published by the NBS, are on a geopolitical zone basis, and those indexes are the basis of our discourse. Nobody lumped anything.

Indeed population doesn't just have a huge impact, but it is the ACTUAL underlying value that all NBS statistics are computed upon (per capita) and which you base your own arguments on, which therefore makes it impossible to discount, if you don't want to end up contradicting yourself.

Bobonnukwu:

I see and understand your points which you detailed articulately. But how can you explain the other telling factors (outside of the population and low federal allocation excuses you used) to explain the fact the Northern states for years now have continued to underperform in all the academic indexes despite having the lowest cut off marks for all their institutions? surely that's not a "population" or HDI type problem to use and underpin your explanations.

Your region has produced the more Presidents, legislators both at Federal and state levels, even Military rulers and definitely receive larger federal allocations than almost all states in the East (if I'm not mistaken), yet perform very poorly on the sustainability of basic standards of living... it's surely a problem beyond just the scope you preen with.

Thank you, I appreciate your honesty.

While it is a fact that education (the ability to read and write) has been widespread in the North since the 18th century; with regard to Western education, it is no secret that ab initio, the North leaned more towards Islamic education and that trend only turned towards Western education in the last couple of decades, and amplified since the return to democratic rule. This definitely had an impact on Western school enrolment and attitude of parents in the north (similar to the educational apathy that Igbo boys who preferred apprenticeship and trade were known with in the past) but like I said, the trend is quick flipping with increased enrolment into our schools and tertiary institutions and its paying off.

I was recently on a flight to the South East and was delighted to find that the entire crew were made up of Northerners (Azman Air), most of whom were graduates from the hundreds of Kano students that were given scholarships abroad by Kwankwaso to study piloting and other aviation courses just a few years ago. This is just an instance of the visible fruits that we are reaping from the silent educational revolution ongoing in the North which is spurring rapid development. Rano Air owned by another Kano Businessman is also launching soon and you can bet where he will source his manpower from.

While it is true that the North has remained politically dominant, its also true that the political elite across board are usually self serving and corrupt so the outcome everywhere is unsurprising. Regarding allocations, your claim is patently false.

theenchanter:
lol, fulanimafia is a funny dude. Bloke's using population as an excuse for the sorry state of their human devt.... Dude, the NW is d poorest region in d country, followed by NE, then NC, stop lumping 3 regions together to spite one region...

Illuminating the basis upon which the HDI statistics (which you base your "sorry state of their human development" on) are calculated, is not the same thing as justifying it.

The East, like the SS and other regions also suffer from poverty and underdevelopment (the baby harvesting, shops in toilet gutter, ritual killing, skull mining kind) but the numbers on HDI indexes (eg. Poverty, infant mortality) will always be lower than the North, because the very basis they are calculated (per capita), which is population, is also significantly higher in the North, even if we were to isolate any Northern sub region like the NW.

Considering that most of the states have similar federal allocations (with the core northern states receiving the least) and most states are only just beginning to focus on IGR, it is rational to expect that limited resources spread over a greater population will spread thinner. Not so?

These are facts, however I'm also aware that it's impossible to wake a person pretending to be asleep. Cheers.

AniOmaa:

Go strap a bomb on yourself and find the next available Christians to kill for your pedophilic prophet.

Allah Akbar, terrorist scum.

Stop crying

AniOmaa:

Your huge population is a poorer excuse for why your region is a flood of human disasters of all types. So you can shove your "Per capita basis" balderdash up your arse. You people are the problem of this country, and the earlier you plagues are excised and left to your hopeless devices... the better for the whole of humanity.

Your resort to ad-hominem attacks don't mask your glaring ignorance, limited capacity & absence of a logical response.

Feel free to drown in the gutter alone.

Bye

AniOmaa:

The highlighted basically has made my case easier, you're as incorrigibly daft as I expected so cognitive dissonance is to be expected. When people migrate to other places, is it only to seek for better means of livelihood? I clearly stated the major reasons why migration has been a huge factor in the East among other number of reasons has mostly been due to the landmass and the increasing population in the East ;which inevitably will be commensurate with mass movements of people to other places (Not much of rocket science now is it?), and of course the highly competitive economic market in the East which has been the mainstay for movements out of the region for years now. You stupidly alluded that poverty was the reason for Igbos moving in large numbers to the North, yet all the statistics to that effect released by credible bureaus both nationally and internationally have invariably shown that the South Eastern states have mostly bettered the North on any HDI( per capita basis according to the you), you have far poorer people probably in the whole of Sub-Sahara Africa... simply because your people are irredeemably stuck in the archaic concepts of reasoning... thus making evolution harder even in a contemporary world.

That's why it's not inconceivable to chop off the heads of human beings simply because they *blasphemed* against some prophet, or embark on a blood-letting spree against your own brothers of a different faith because some remote European country insulted your useless Prophet.

Go and read.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

AniOmaa:

So your only reasonable excuse for the mediocrity of the North is that the North dwarfs the East in population? You still haven't explained to me why the North has massively contrived to underperform on nearly all the metrics obtainable in Nigeria - despite having a very vast population, more quota system based systems-lower cut off marks to gain admission into your academic institutions, bigger Federal presence in terms of infrastructural developments, enjoying the larger share of political advantages in Nigeria etc than many states in the South. Aboki you daft sha

If your brain was unable to process and identify the link between the North's rankings on HDI's and it's huge population, despite the hint you were given (all metrics are reported on per capita basis), then that is your fault, not mine.

Arrewa:
Aikin ka na kyau Dan uwa...

Na gode dan uwa.

AniOmaa:

Even the NBS and other credible international infometrics that have all the statistical information and facts on the poverty and human development index in Nigeria doesn't do your submissions any favor, so on what basis is the North more developed than the East? you might have better infrastructural facilities due to your landmass and bigger Federal allocations, but that doesn't translate to the average standard of living when you enumerate any indices of comparative analysis between the North and East. Let me even help you with a few metrics:

Education - you're last on the index in Nigeria, even the least performing state in the East beats your best hands down.
Poverty index- your states top the list nationwide according to all the NBS and UNO data.
HDI your states are on the lowest rungs according to all statistical databases
Sustainability index- the North dey carry last position
Mortality rate, your region is worst hit
Humanitarian crisis of all kinds, we need no introduction here.
Wealth distribution-aside from the few elites like Dangote, Dantata, Ariku etc who made their money through government sponsorships and oil blocks... na mostly Almajiri, Hard drugs sniffing miscreants and beggars full your region.

So on what basis can you compete with the East? Bring forward your concrete facts to shut me up for good! posting some fancy and photo-shopped pictures of nice Northern cities and roads doesn't help your arguments, when there are far more impoverished communities in your region per square mile.

Of course the East can not compete with the North on any of those metrics or HDI's because it's population is dwarfed greatly by that of the North and ALL the metrics you've stated are calculated on Per-Capita Basis. I expect you understand what that means.

Simple, common sense.

AniOmaa:

Your reasoning and IQ are frighteningly low, just as bad as you been uninformed. Not sure if it's the excess intake of hard drugs, banditry or terrorism plaguing your region that makes you reason like a cow, but it's not rocket science or science fiction that Igbos right from time have always been a migratory people, and mainly for business and other economic purposes. It has nothing to do with poverty or whatever nonsense you ignorantly surmise for the mass migration of Igbos all over Nigeria and abroad, it's simply because of the smaller landmass of the East albeit its astronomical population... and the fact that business competitions in the East are very INTENSE. It wasn't the ingenuity of your government or people that built Onitsha market to the level of largest market in West Africa even after it was leveled to the dust during the war... or the enterprising nature and socio-economic buoyancy in Ariaria market where every and any brand you want is patented with skill and perfection. Igbos just naturally don't like to stay in one place, they move around and in no time massively upgrade their host communities either through trading or other forms of essential services. The average Igboman on any index of sustainability, wealth and human development indices is FAR more productive than anybody in the entire North. The North is pretty much 40% super wealthy elites... and 60% illiterate, poor, disease ravaged, and terroristically-inclined people.

Lol are you the only migratory businessmen? What is BUA doing in Akwa Ibom & Edo? What is Dangote doing in Lekki, Ghana? Who brings beef, tomatoes, onions etc. to the south daily and from where?

We are essentially saying the same thing.

Millions of you cannot stay in your region and cannot stop trooping to the North for your livelihood for whatever excuse you've given, even amidst the insecurity, but always pretend that you want to leave Nigeria but the North is holding you back.

If you could not see the simple nexus between your position and mine, then you are in no position to question my IQ.

kingzizzy:


Yes, most Northerners and those in the South west are not comfortable with an Igbo man being President of Nigeria

Wasnt it Tunde Ednut who said the same recently?

In a democracy, you then want to impose yourselves on the clear majority by force, against their wishes, and you think it's possible even with invisible political muscle.

Good luck.

Arrewa:
be deceiving yourself.

We don't travel to become minister in another country.

We are here in Nigeria rulling and developing our region.

We don't care if all you travel out and leave your region empty

Actually if they displayed half of their typical hateful, insultive, arrogant behaviour in those European countries like they do here, they wouldn't get any appointments at all and instead would be chased and hounded like their kinsmen in SA, India, Indonesia etc.

Nobody is deceived.

Redcrafton:


...and what do these northerners supporting the Igbos called...northern Igbos?

PHOTO:NORTHERN YOUTHS MARCH IN SOLIDARITY WITH IGBOS IN THE NORTH
https://www.cknnigeria.com/2017/06/photonorthern-youths-march-in.html

I don't have any problem with sensible Igbos in the North or anywhere else. A good number of my associates are igbos so it's very far from it.

My issue is when Igbos try to pretend to hate and insult the North/Hausafulani in the daytime, only to rush there in their night buses DAILY in their hundreds packed like sardines, some in standing position for hours, escaping poverty in the east to seek their daily bread selling okirika & otapiapia, despite all the herdsmen, Boko Haram and bandits - only to resume the pretentious "North doesn't want us to leave" in the morning.

Do you know a whole bus load of Igbos were kidnapped just last year on their way to the core North, yet after paying heavy ransom, they still rather die there than return back to the east?

The duplicity, hypocrisy and shamelessness is sickening.

Redcrafton:


The problem with you is that you lie a lot..using the same propaganda you accuse other people of. This your lies have been debunked severally, but you kept or regurgitating it. No Igbo elder went to the north to beg. All they said was that using international law you can't seize peoples properties.
It was the northern governors who rushed to Abia state begging the governor and the Igbos for forgiveness as they claim the investment of the Igbos in the is worth trillions...Who will maintain those investment if the Igbos leave? You?

See the picture of their visit to Abia state.

Lies. The Igbo elders were begging El Rufai to stay.

They said one Nigeria is the best. They even pledged loyalty to El Rufai to be allowed to stay in the north in peace.

They even termed themselves "northern" Igbos

PassingShot:
The Igbos in the PDP should find their balls, or borrow some if they have none, and speak up.

The whole thing is getting seriously embarrassing for real.

kingzizzy:


There are no friends in Nigeria, there are only sectional interests

You were the one that mentioned the SW and their northern friends that will surely vote for them against the SE.

Now why is the SE sectional interest not protected in the North like the SW?

Does it have anything to do with the below?