₦airaland Forum

Namaster:
Trump sees himself as a PERPETUAL victim.
He's DESECRATING the global identity of the US and remaking it in his own image—a VICTIM.

He thinks everybody is out to get him.
Now he thinks EVERY country is out to get the USA.

He ALIENATES his allies and cozies up to dictators (Putin) and wannabe-dictators (Netanyahu).

He's on track to OBLITERATE the diplomatic powers of the US and the benefits that come with it.

He's pushing and pushing and leaders of other countries can only be pushed so much.

FOOLS call him the PeaceMaker.
Meanwhile, EVERY action he takes edges the world closer to a MAJOR conflict.

The markers are ALL there but his fanatical supporters are too DUMB to see it.

1 TRILLION DOLLARS vanished from the US stock market.

The price of gold is soaring (it's the ultimate store of wealth in the event of war).

France is gearing up to provide Nuclear Shield to the whole of EU.

UK is on track to INCREASE their defense budget.

The incoming Prime Minister of Germany is advocating for the EU to RAMP UP the production of weapons.

Even Canada is MULLING the idea of joining the EU.

ALL because FOOLISH Americans would rather have a CONVICTED FELON who's a pedophile and a rapist in the White House than have a black woman in there.

Racists and fools INFLICTED their buffoonery on the rest of the world.

NEVER FORGET!

I just laughed when you literally ended with the clause that insinuated that Kamala was better.

If a Kamala support is the reason for your epistle, then ur write up very much biased and should not be taken seriously.

AntiChristian:
In the US, as far as certificates is concerned, it is ceremonial and most people don't place importance to it.

What they certify and hold important is the transcript!

So even if he printed the certificate in his house, it's still not forgery in law since the information is true that he attended the school and graduated!

And the signatures?

I read many stating stating that the certificate is ceremonial. Folks are applying the Laws in the US educational sector to our Nigerian dynamics.

I tell you bud, as long as that replacement Certificate was presented in the Nigerian shores, it has now adopted the policies of the recipient entity, here Nigeria. The certificate as presented in Nigeria is seen as an important component in the requirements for candidacy and the whole ceremonial thing holds no water.

Christistruth00:
Fake News cannot disqualify a sitting Elected President

Don’t be silly! What is fake about the news? A matter that went to the US Court and Atiku won. In case You don’t know, Atiku won at the US Court!!!

You really don’t understand what Tinubu had seen will hit him when he cried that CSU releasing his documents to Atiku will make him suffer harm.

Tinubu was basically talking about the uncontrollable chains of events - law suits, verification and authentication of his documents by all entities he has done dealings with, further investigation by the USA and other entities about his person, public’s perspective of him, Supreme Court being put in a difficult situation to actually prioritize their image and integrity than doing the Nigerian thing and so much more.

You think Atiku stating in the conference yesterday that he will hands down if Tinubu wins in the Supreme Court was mere talks, he said that to put the Nigerian court in a situation I described above after winning in the US court. Presentation of forged documents to INEC by a candidate for any election disqualifies the culprit and that is the law!

Why do you think Peter Obi is now crying that he won Atiku? Lol. Cos he knows Atiku would likely win this one!

Bro, pray for Tinubu to escape this one cos he is in for a long ride, instead of arguing without substance.

Christistruth00:
No

Read it further Chicago State University has Confirmed that both Tinubu's Certificate's that Atiku questioned are both valid and authentic

What point should I be looking at as I do not see anywhere in your posted document where CSU stated that the replacement certificate Tinubu has and submitted to INEC is both valid and authentic!

Please let me know what I should be looking at to agree with your argument. 🙂

LegendHero:
Even Atiku know he has been scammed.

That is why in his press conference he said he now hand everything to supreme court and he will respect the decision.

All eyes on Supreme court now, make them finally end Atiku desperation and make him start to dey prepare for 2027.

JAGABAN will always defeat Atiku in every election!!

Are you sure about this? You really don’t understand what Tinubu has seen will hit him when he cried that CSU releasing his documents to Atiku will make him suffer harm.

Tinubu was basically talking about the uncontrollable chains of events - law suits, verification and authentication of his documents by all entities he has done dealings with, further investigation by the USA and other entities about his person, public’s perspective of him, Supreme Court being put in a difficult situation to actually prioritize their image and integrity than doing the Nigerian thing and so much more.

You think Atiku stating in the conference yesterday that he will hands down if Tinubu wins in the Supreme Court was mere talks, he said that to put the Nigerian court in a situation I described above after winning in the US court.

Presentation of forged documents to INEC by a candidate for any election disqualifies the culprit and that is the law!

Why do you think Peter Obi is now crying that he won Atiku? Lol. Cos he knows Atiku would likely win this one!

I ask you now. What is the meaning of a third party vendor? CSU’s third party vendor provide services on behalf of CSU and these vendors are known to CSU. So if CSU says they cannot authenticate BAT’s replacement certificate , it only means that CSU has contacted all her vendors and none of them claimed to have provided such service of certificate issuance to BAT, hence can be argued rightly as being forged.

Bro, pray for Tinubu to escape this one cos he is in for a long ride, instead of arguing without substance.

FreeStuffsNG:
Please kindly explain to them what a third party vendor means.

Politics aside, we are dealing with poorly educated set of hate-filled bigots o.
Thank you sir. Check my signature for free stuffs!

Right here, CSU’s third party vendor provide services on behalf of CSU and these vendors are known to CSU. So if CSU says they cannot authenticate BAT’s replacement certificate , it only means that CSU has contacted all her vendors and none of them claimed to have provided such service of certificate issuance to BAT, hence can be argued rightly as being forged.

A certificate, no matter how ceremonial it may seem, projects and represents the image of the school and the school is responsible for verification and authentication of this document, so folks misunderstanding the CSU’s statement as they don’t care who replaces their certificates is very unreasonable to conclude.


Cheers

RightToReject:
Your replacement certificate in this regard will be regarded as fake, like that of president BAT, the very moment you use the service of another third party vendor apart from "paradigm," which is your school accredited vendor - an institution/organisation always allows its accredited vendor access to its DE and other essential working datas. Some of you always strive to be too clever by half, forgetting that someone of us too aren't mere subject of the West but stakeholders.

Title IV of the Higher Education Act of 1965, as amended (HEA), empowers institutions to use the services of third-party servicers. The same HEA, however, makes clear that agreements to administer “any aspect” of an institution’s participation in the Title IV programs fall within the scope of the Department’s TPS oversight authority. 20 U.S.C. § 1088(c).

Citing the above, the refusal of the CSU rep to admit expressly under oath the authenticity of the certificate president BAT submitted to INEC simply proves that it wasn't sourced from the CSU accredited TPS vendor and indeed fake.

I don't hold a brief for any of the parties involved, so no bumpkin should quote me to yarn nonsense.

100 percent!!!!!!!!

It’s an embarrassment to see most of the Nigerians here discussing totally out of place from the subject matter.

Just few of us here actually think objectively. Mhen, the Nigerian standard has fallen greatly!!!!

Christistruth00:
Read point 3.


" Chicago State University provided a Diploma to Bola Ahmed Tinubu and subsequently provided a certified (Official ) Copy of that Diploma
Both are valid and authentic Diploma's of Chicago State University "

stop wrestling with the English language and disgracing Nigeria


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Hey bud, you do not understand that statement yourself. Let’s look at it again:

Point 3 only confirms that Tinubu attended CSU and was given a certified copy of his diploma certificate upon graduation (first certificate), NOT a replacement certificate (which is the subject of the matter).

BAT may have lost the first true Certificate and then sourced for a replacement certificate which CSU stated they can’t authenticate. He claimed to have submitted a replacement certificate to INEC and not the original certificate.

You get it now?

abc115:
Source: @Dab4Youth

CSU stated that they do not issue replacement of certificates but do so with third party vendors. CSU also stated that they are not able to authenticate the certificate BAT submitted to INEC.

I ask you now. What is the meaning of a third party vendor? CSU’s third party vendor provide services on behalf of CSU and these vendors are known to CSU. So if CSU says they cannot authenticate BAT’s replacement certificate , it only means that CSU has contacted all her vendors and none of them claimed to have provided such service of certificate issuance to BAT, hence can be argued rightly as being forged.

A certificate, no matter how ceremonial it may seem, projects and represents the image of the school and the school is responsible for verification and authentication of this document, so misunderstanding the CSU’s statement as they don’t care is very unreasonable to conclude.

If you do not do it through Paradigm as in your case, your replacement certificate is questionable and can be rightly argued as forged.

AntiWailer:
CSU does not issue replacement.

Not reading is the major reason u guys have.

They said they don’t care about it an external vendor can do it for u .

U make no sense with the above statement. Breathe in and out, and think with your head and not your heart. Now let’s discuss:

CSU stated that they do not issue replacement of certificates but do so with third party vendors. CSU also stated that they are not able to authenticate the certificate BAT submitted to INEC.

I ask you now. What is the meaning of a third party vendor? CSU’s third party vendor provide services on behalf of CSU and these vendors are known to CSU. So if CSU says they cannot authenticate BAT’s replacement certificate , it only means that CSU has contacted all her vendors and none of them claimed to have provided such service of certificate issuance to BAT, hence can be argued rightly as being forged.

A certificate, no matter how ceremonial it may seem, projects and represents the image of the school and the school is responsible for verification and authentication of this document, so misunderstanding the CSU’s statement as they don’t care is very unreasonable to conclude.

I don’t care who wins in court however let us argue objectively so the younger ones can learn from events.

Cheers

IgOga:


Wetin Atiku wan say wey we never hear before

Tinubu attended and graduated from CSU.....there is nothing forged or fake about his qualification.

Atiku and co said Tinubu’s certificate is fake because there are some discrepancies with other samples of CSU certificates they have seen. CSU explained in an affidavit that the University truly changed logos and signature depends on when the certificate was ordered.

Atiku argued the person who went to Southwest college was a female Tinubu. CSU argued that it was a clerical error and presented Tinubu's admission letter reading "Dear Mr Tinubu " CSU argued that the SSN was one of their verification methods and it confirms a male Bola Ahmed Tinubu. But even then Atiku and co are yet to present the female Tinubu.

CSU has consistently defended Tinubu. On the certified true copy of Mr Tinubu’s replacement certificate. CSU said it is not common but it seems to be a Nigerian thing to certify replacement certificates (enemies of Nigeria twisted it that they said corruption is a Nigerian thing)


CSU mentioned that as a matter of fact replacement certificates are not produced directly by CSU but by a third party vendor ( this is still listed on their website for those who are not lazy and suffering from mental disorder to verify). The registrar said CSU has no stake in it as it doesn't produce it directly but students transcripts are used to certify whether the student indeed attended and graduated from CSU and Mr Tinubu did. CSU also presented 3 certificates of 3 different students who made such request in the 1990s which are exactly thesame as the one Mr Tinubu presented to INEC. (CSU said they have these certificates because those students didn't pick them up,
asked about Tinubu's certificate CSU said they dont have it because Mr Tinubu picked it up ....but enemies of Nigeria twisted it as usual)


For the confused and deceived who kept saying Tinubu forged his certificate what exactly did he forge? What information on his certificate is incorrect? Where did he make a claim that is not correct?

I am afraid for the future of Nigeria when youths cannot read and comprehend simple conversations but run on fakenews.

Is the replacement certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC issued from CSU or any of its vendors?

Please answer this question and your Boolean answer determines the success/failure of Atiku’s case!

AntiWailer:
TIme Wasters

1. Did CSU confirm that Tinubu attended their school. ? - Yes
2. Did they confirm that the Tinubu that attended was a Male student ? - Yes
3. Did they provide the transcript of the Tinubu that went to CSU ? - Yes
4. Did they say that he passed out with Honours ? - Yes
5. Did they say the certificate he held is not the one they gave him in 1970s ? - Yes
6. Did they say the certificate he held is similar to replacement certificate in the 1990s - Yes
7. Has Tinubu ever sworn Affidavit that he lost all his credentials during the Military regime and Nadeco struggles. - Yes.
8. Is the Certificate presented to INEC possibly a replacement certificate - Yes
9. Does CSU know or able to authenticate all their Replacement Cerrtificates. ? No


You guys should be ashamed of yourselves and inability to think.

It is no longer a female, it is now that he went , graduated with honors but forged certificate ?

If you can tell where the deposition alluded to Certificate forgery, show Reno and collect your 100,000 dollars

10. Is the replacement certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC issued from CSU or any of its vendors?

Please answer number 10 and your Boolean answer determines the whole of Atiku’s case!

Ttalk:
Atiku is a book that should not be read, a stillborn, an aborted dream, and a born failure whose destiny is bound to fail.

All of his political journey pointed to too many avoidable mistakes.

He chose to fight the wrong people.

Chooses the wrong time and has always made the wrong decision.

It is rumored he slept with the wrong gender and traveled at the wrong time to the wrong places.

He fights his best friends and keeps his staunch enemy.

Make Atiku a general, and he would destroy his battalion with stray bullets, an Atiku as a pilot, and expect a crashed plane.

Atiku's too many poor decisions are a red flag for a sane mind. He alone should pursue his lost battle

Bro, calm down. Atiku is within his right to fight for what he terms “Justice”.

And I think he has done nothing wrong doing this legally. He is fighting for a seat he feels he definitely won ahead of Tinubu.

I ask you now, what exactly is Atiku’s misdoings that warrants all the epistle about his morals and giving yourself headaches? Mind you, all you have there is 80% assumptions.

modernWays:
They are all pay agents or speaking with sentiments.

A wise person will never say someone genuinely attended a school but decided to forge his certificate. Even if he does, it must be out of ignorant, which could be easily wave aside by law court.

In law, ignorantia juris non excusat, or ignorantia legis neminem excusat, is a legal principle holding that a person who is unaware of a law may not escape liability for violating that law merely by being unaware of its content.

He can still face the punishment of forgery, if so. Ignorance is no defence in law.

EmperorCaesar:
I learnt this man is a prof


Omo...he is very much daft

CSU claimed third party vendors can help create a replacement certificate, so if BAT actually got it through that means, hows that a case of forgery?

I just recently started following this event and it is quite unfortunate that people, in a way to show support can twist narratives.

I ask you now. What is the meaning of a third party vendor? CSU’s third party vendor provide services on behalf of CSU and these vendors are known to CSU. So if CSU says they do not know where BAT got his replacement certificate from, it only means that CSU has contacted all her vendors and none of them claimed to have provided such service of certificate insurance to BAT, hence can be argued rightly as being forged.

I don’t care who wins in court however let us argue objectively so the younger ones can learn from events.

Cheers

This is from Obio/Akpor, Woji, PortHarcourt.

First picture is the actual result with LP at 273/289 votes
Second picture is the rigged result downloaded from the INEC Portal with LP votes being given to PDP, so LP is now 30/289 (they had a wrong total during manipulation - total should be 285 as a result of the alteration but they left it at 289).

There are many more like this in different Polling Units.

I think LP has every reason to go to court!

lhordspy:
"Unintelligent person"
That is what same Nollywood you are trying to famz; dismissed you as.

Just as they tagged you, giving you a befitting adjective. You are still ignorantly trying to justify the 'tag' by acting like you can't comprehend the simple 'rejection message' passed across. That was an insult from the Nollywood guild not compliment. Mr man

How can you be expecting people who tagged you '[/b]unintelligent' , still unintelligently vote for you?

[b]You are truly 'unintelligent' , Mr Pandora.

Calling you stupid is an insult to stupid people. You are much worse. I can’t believe folks like you exist. With all your yeye write up, you still made no sense.

Mhen, I can’t believe you are Nigerian sha. You are a disgrace!

Ronaldinnioh:
This woman must be very stupid. She is the most foolish mother I have ever seen. Anyway my mother can't be so stupid,daft,senseless and irresponsible as this woman displayed. You have not seen your daughter for three years and you have not heard her own side of story all you can do is to travel all the way to Auchi just to apologize for what you know nothing about. Why didn't you search for your daughter first, hear her own side of the story then ask pastor questions and your daughter too. Money can make a lot of people stupid and people might have been manipulated to see this poor woman to go and make nonsense confession.

See how u just dey abuse person mama. I guess ure a motherless child. cos if ure not, then ure irresponsible and highly unruly. Pray to whoever u worship for deliverance cos u need one. *God is best*. #readyourpostagain

otemanuduno:
Suleiman is guilty. Check this out and judge it yourself.

As the judge that ure? or as the only nairalander with nothing in your head than to come to a childish conclusion as uve just done? Oya , go jail am!!! Ode!

malware:
SEE USELESS MOTHER. WAS SHE THERE WHEN THE AKPORSTLE DEY KNACK THE GIRL?

Ure as stupid as ur user id, with 2 problems.
First u have no respect for motherhood and religion and,
Second, u need a job.
U no be small pikin, grow up buddie!!

benzics:
Lol, if at this point you still think "Asspusstle" Suleman is innocent, your brainwashing is strong!!

I know what all these pastors are capable of, so I've always suspected Sule from the beginning.

Listen to Stephanie's press meetings, if you find nothing wrong with Suleman, listen to the press meeting again, this time, with your brain intact, void of all possible brainwashings.. you'll see truth in what Stephanie says

Christians have now resorted to calling her a prostitute and an agent of the devil, while at the same time praise the womanizing son of a b#tch.

Stephanie even had the guts to tell the police to investigate things themselves, and you think it's just a cheap blackmail??

I stopped trusting these useless men when I discovered a married "man of God" was having affairs with his members.. ..

Suleman is a conman, and only fools and the gullible ones believe he is innocent!

Modified: LMAO , the Christians never fail to disappoint, see them quoting me and raining hate speeches on me, let us analyze this though.

If Sule was innocent, shouldn't he be suing Stephanie for character defamation rather than blackmail?

We saw screenshots, and DUMB people called it photoshop, I called these people dumb because they don't know how photoshop works!

So are you all saying his facial expressions in the screenshots were all photo shopped? Kai, nawa o.

Stephanie might not actually be telling the whole truth, but there is truth in what she says!

With this kind of conclusion. One of ur weaknesses shud be reasoning. U dnt reason at all. U should be above this kind of reasoning. Oga, grow up.

Hi, i applied sowp online in October 10, 2016. just got an update today on my "Final decision" section on cic page, from "Not started" to "Your application is in progress. We will send you a message once the final decision has been made.".
Please i want to know what it actually mean? Does it mean they have started looking at my file or does it apply to everyone as a general update? Dnt understand. Thanks.

weedtheweeds:
hahaha ahsewo apostle. you no want talk abi. when big man put finger inside small pikin toto, e no go fit talk if the girl slap am. make the apostle confess make the matter stop. ashewo apostle deceiving millions.

With this post uve just typed, ure sillier than 100 of Stephanie Otobos!

sarrki:
It does not remove the fact that he's a scammer

Did he scam ur family? be typing rubbish because of hear/say. when God's judgement comes on u, i wonder what ull say that made u come to such conclusion. I dnt go to his church but as far as he is a man of God, i accord him his respect. Until he scams u or ur family before ur very eyes, you have no right to call him a scammer. Be guided!

Bembem1:
Sounds like you are struggling from a stockholm syndrome. Don't stress over your pastor's scandal. A lot of more powerful and influential pastors have had a similar experience. Guess what..They apologized to their congregation and moved on. Africans have placed anyone with a title Pastor,Rev,Apostle,Bishop in the same category with God. Unfortunately, it is very difficult for an African pastor to accept any wrong doing. Can we call that pride or arrogance?

Check out similar American pastors with the same scandal. They have all moved on.

Jimmy Swaggart - Adultery
Marcus Lamb(Daystar Television) - Adultery
Jim Baker -Adultery
Ted Haggard-Adultery
Eddie Long - Doing gay stuffs with young men in his church


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjvaisJ2eX0

Oga, dey talk like who go school na. Has he been proven guilty? Why should he beg? Abi na you wan convict am? talk objectively and not with feelings. is it ur scandal?