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Emusan:
They will soon say this moniker belongs to....

Lol.

Emusan:
You even have time to reply that one!

The fact that, none of the translators involved in their NWT have in depth knowledge of Hebrew and Greek says a lot.

And the most ridiculous part is how they include the FOUR TETRAGRAMMATON in the New Testament when the name does not appear in any known manuscripts in possession today is evidence in itself that alot of manipulation was done in their translation.

Remember, by including the FOUR TETRAGRAMMATON watchtower defined their own rules and the funny aspect is that they still go AGAINST THEIR OWN RULE, without that Jesus being Jehovah would've been proven by themselves.

True bro.

They inserted the Tetragrammaton in the New Testament texts when it isn't present in the original Greek texts.

Janosky, you see your life outside?

That's what happens when you rely on Hebrew and Greek illiterates for your Bible translations. It gets worse when the illiterates are agents of Satan. Demonic manipulations and falsehoods would be inevitable.

achorladey:
Simple, to show that all others are false Christians for going to war and joining politics while they are the only true Christians using lies and manipulations of the scripture to advance that agenda we all know is a lie.

It still makes them to look more mumuistic than I thought.

ccjoe:
Thank you so much@ Courz, FxMasterz, achorladey and Emusan for the good work you are doing. Nice thread uved got here @ Courz. I think any group who emphasizes more on thier organization rather than a living personal relationship with our lord Jesus is making a big mistake. They claim to know God, and yet in works they deny him to the point of manipulating scriptures-that's demonic (titus 1:16). Those saying that God wouldn't endorse war between nations of God's people should read through., judges 20: 12-48. In verse 23 in particular it reads '... And the children of israel went up and wept before the LORD until even, and asked counsel of the LORD, saying, shall i go up again to battle against the children of benjamin my brother? And the LORD said, go up against him.'

These guys know the truth but they love to deceive. Deception runs in their veins.

Thanks for the commendation. We would never allow falsehood to overshadow the Truth in our world.

achorladey:
How many times have we discussed this particular scripture.

We have shown them repeatedly that Jehovah’s witnesses fight and defend against one another up till today and defend against intruders not part of their membership.

The war between the house of Saul and the house of David lasted a long time. David grew stronger and stronger, while the house of Saul grew weaker and weaker

They have stated in their publications that there is no Bible injunction that says one cannot defend himself against deadly arm and aggression

That's what they call truth from the faithful and discreet slave and they are yet going against their own beliefs

Then why are these ones here behaving like mumu?

achorladey:
He knows it is since he cannot counter what has been presented so far

Instead of countering, they prefer to discuss about joining the army. They consider themselves strong on that point.

Aemmyjah:
If you'd tried same to characters in mere human literatures
What is that called


Is the name Jesus Hebrew or Greek?

I wonder why people in advanced age can't use common sense

Abeg, go and sit down.

There was no replacement of the name. Only translations.

So, because you thought the name was replaced, that's why you also deemed it fit to replace many words and verses during your own translations?

Janosky:
2 Corinthians 11 11:23-26 is "brainwashed " to LYING FX Masterz.

23 Are they servants of Christ? (I am out of my mind to talk like this.) I am more. I have worked much harder, been in prison more frequently, been flogged more severely, and been exposed to death again and again. 24 Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one. 25 Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was pelted with stones, three times I was shipwrecked, I spent a night and a day in the open sea, 26 I have been constantly on the move. I have been in danger from rivers, in danger from bandits, in danger from my fellow Jews, in danger from Gentiles; in danger in the city, in danger in the country, in danger at sea; and in danger from false believers"


Oga, how many cannons & swords did Paul use to defend himself against bandits, armed robbers and his assailants @ 2 Corinthians 11:26?

Oga,Come & continue LYING
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Nah you give Paul sword or you buy one for am?

Did Paul fight against any government 2 Corinthians 11:23-26?

Oga no dey deceive yourself.

Paul said he was attacked by bandits and armed robbers. Did he tell you he didn't defend himself against them? Quote where Paul said "I did not defend myself against them."

Here is what Paul said:

"If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die." 1 Corinthians 15:22

The beasts at Ephesus are not animals but humans in animal clothing. Paul defended himself.

ccjoe:
Thank you so much@ Courz, FxMasterz, achorladey and Emusan for the good work you are doing. Nice thread uved got here @ Courz. I think any group who emphasizes more on thier organization rather than a living personal relationship with our lord Jesus is making a big mistake. They claim to know God, and yet in works they deny him to the point of manipulating scriptures-that's demonic (titus 1:16). Those saying that God wouldn't endorse war between nations of God's people should read through., judges 20: 12-48. In verse 23 in particular it reads '... And the children of israel went up and wept before the LORD until even, and asked counsel of the LORD, saying, shall i go up again to battle against the children of benjamin my brother? And the LORD said, go up against him.'

Apt!

Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah, Janosky, Michael457. Your attention is needed here.

Janosky:
Oga,Your claim is spurious.
Pls STOP WAILING on this platform.

You didn't read the screenshot evidences and rebuttals I have done on this thread.

The correct rendition of John 10:33 is 'god' but your Trinitarian mentors REMOVED the evidence in your Bible deceiving you with their man made GIBBERISH.
Can't you see for yourself that 'god' in small letter is at John 10:33, 1 Corinthians 8:4-5 & Acts 28:6?
John 1:1= John 10:33 the word was a god.

Also Your friend made a false claim about Daniel 12:4 in New world translation.
Your Trinitarian Amplified Bible , Daniel 12:4 is outstanding evidence against Courz.

FX,Did you even investigate that?
You did not.

Liar janosky has come again. Let me school you on the bolded above.

In the original Greek texts of the New Testament, there was no distinction between upper-case and lower-case letters. The Greek manuscripts were written in what is known as "uncial" script, which used only capital letters (majuscules) and did not differentiate between capitalizing or not capitalizing words like "God" (Θεός)

This means that the practice of capitalizing "God" or pronouns referring to God in modern translations is a later development for the sake of clarity and reverence in English typography, rather than a feature of the original texts. Early Greek manuscripts did not include spaces, punctuation, or capitalization distinctions.

Therefore, the original Greek Bible did not use a capital "G" for God because it used a uniform script without capitalization distinctions.

Your argument for translating John 10:33 as 'a god' shows the falsehood in your translation. If John 10:33, means 'a god', then everywhere God was mentioned in the Bible should be translated 'a god' since the same form of capitalization is used in all such cases.

This is another proof that your book is heavily manipulated. Translated by ignorant and mischievous men.

Janosky:

Mumu logic of a WAILER


The Jews decimated during the Roman soldiers invasion of Jerusalem were defending what?

Is Jerusalem a Jewish national asset or nah your personal property?

An armed soldier no dey defend himself by doing national defense?

Oga,just dey deceive yourself.

Prove to us that your Bible is not heavily manipulated.

Janosky:

John 17:16 & 1 John 2:15-17

Who are we to save the world heading for destruction?

Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's witness. Matthew 12:15-18. Revelation 3:14.
John 17:16 & 1 John 2:15-17 nah him logic.

Prove to us that your Bible is not manipulated. Stop derailing the thread

Janosky:
You wey wise no see your delusion & false claim exposed by Trinitarians Amplified Bible @ Daniel 12:4.

Diversion tactics.

Prove to us that your Bible is not manipulated.

achorladey:
Is that not hypocrisy? They want to eat and reap from what and where they did not sow

Abi. They think they're wise.

achorladey:
You should know they have their own REAL GOOD NEWS . Captured in their own religious publications delivered to them in the 20th century different from the one Jude talked about.

Hmmmmmm.

achorladey:
Best imperfect organization on earth

I don't know what criteria they used in determining that

Because they go from house to house and don't join the army, according to Maxindhouse. That's the criteria. Very hilarious.

Aemmyjah:
Oga
Is it right for translations to replace the divine name with LORD cos they think it is inappropriate
That's the biggest manipulation of the scriptures ever
Simpleton like you will not ask them why they deviated from the original manuscripts
Your envy don de choke u

Lol. They translated the name, not replace it. 'The Lord', is a translation of the name. Not a replacement.

Even in your books, they translated it to Latin. Jehovah isn't the name in the original language. The name Jehovah is neither Hebrew nor Greek. Don't be ignorant.

It seems your lame excuse is to validate the manipulation in your books by accusing KJV of the same manipulation. If you say your book is not manipulated, provide evidence against the proofs given on this thread.

Why do you guys like doing hide and seek? You don't ever answer any question directly because you know that the right answer is your coffin.

Aemmyjah:
What are you using to judge our books then?
Ur malicious envy


The image below is the preface of the Revised standard version
It acknowledges that the KJV is marred with errors and mistakes yet it follows the KJV tradition, like many other translations to remove God's name and replace with Lord even where the manuscripts had the DIVINE NAME there. Did the translators not also have a knowledge of Greek, Hebrew n Latin?
Who gave them the authority that the use of God's name is no longer appropriate? They'd have lost millions of it was some other books yet we restored it to where they belong and you call it manipulative

You're not serious
Blind, pitiable envious person
Enter a nursery 2 classroom and beg them to say shame on you

Stop asking foolish questions please. I want intelligent questions.

We have told you several times to check your books against original manuscripts. We've told you several times that your translators don't know either Greek or Hebrew. It has been demonstrated here with good authority that your book has been heavily manipulated.

Has anyone mentioned to you that KJV is used to measure your book before you spewed all these trash?

Aemmyjah:
The simple answer is NO

My question, is the authoritative Bibles such as KJV free from errors, additions, distortions of what is found in many reliable manuscripts or not? Yes or No?

Is the KJV your standard?

What's your concern about the KJV? Do you want to use the KJV to measure your book?

You yourself know that you're a liar for answering 'No' regarding the manipulation of your book.

Now, defend this answer by proving to us that the book is not manipulated!

Aemmyjah:
Which Bible is the only true Bible

Is your New World Translation heavily manipulated or not?

Courz:
Let me give you an example of misquoting of Scholars that Watchtower does. Watchtower was trying to explain to JWs in their publication proof that Jesus wasn't crucified on the Cross. They went to quote an Imperial Bible dictionary meaning of cross. In the quote, they selected the part where the dictionary mentioned that the Romans originally killed criminals by hanging them on a stake. Watchtower stopped there and said, See? Even the dictionary agrees that Jesus wasn't crucified on a cross but on a stake. What JWS didn't know is that, that wasn't all that the dictionary said. The quote didn't end there. The dictionary also said that the Romans then changed their mode of killing by introducing a cross beam across the stake and this eventually became the common way to kill even during the time of Jesus. Watchtower ignored this part but quoted the part that favoured their doctrine. Can you see the Fraud? The good thing is the words of Jesus to Thomas already proved that he was crucified on the Cross by saying mentioning the mark of nails, not One Nail but nails on his hands.

There are many other examples of Watchtower selecting quotes of sources that favour them and then ignoring the ones that don't. This shows that anything Watchtower quotes and adds ellipsis at the end, you must go and find that source and read it for yourself to make sure they mentioned everything. Or else, you will be deceived.

This is really serious o! Jesus Christ!

Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah, Janosky and Michael547, please read the above post very well with full understanding. Read the attached screenshots too.

Courz:
The bolded is the reason why Almighty God and Jesus are totally against twisting, adding and subtracting from the word of God. Doing that diverts Christians direction from the road to Life in Heaven. This is why their Bible is dangerous. If God is this disgusted at this despicable act as shown in the verses below, just imagine the looks on his face and that of Jesus when they see JWs go out to preach with those manipulated verses to Deceive people. Why do you think they are rejected all the time when they go out to preach? If their Bible wasn't manipulated, they won't have this high rejection rate. It doesn't ever register in their Brains as to why they keep getting rejected.

Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah, Janosky and Michael547, attached below is the reason why your Bible is very dangerous as indicated at the bolded.

Repent before it's too late.

Courz:
E tire you abi? This is what the Bible says about people calling what is Evil Good. All the Evil that happens and the wrong things Watchtower has done qualifies it to be the only performing group according to Islamist Mad MaxinDhouse. This can only be the inspiration from one person Satan.

Thank you for referring to that scripture:

Isaiah 5:20
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."

Emusan:
Why do you think they can't quote the scriptures rather they will just cite it?

He did the same of recent to that Muslim guy @Abu waiting self, the guy exposed him by quoting the cited scripture, do you know the excuse Max gave?

He was like you a sound mind would have read a verse before and after a cited scripture.

Very pathetic!

You're right. That Janosky guy has a different style. To attack your valid point, he'll say you're wrong, then he'll drop an unrelated scripture reference without quoting the verse. For example, he may drop John 15:12. When you go open John 15:12, you'll find out that it's talking about something quiet unrelated. He'll just drop the reference to make you think he has something in the Bible that really buttresses his point. If you don't go and open the Bible references to confirm, you'll be floored.

Those guys are really deceptive. It's their stock in trade. Very satanic organization.

Aemmyjah:
Your head is filled with sand
If you had brain
You'll have seen the lie in those comments
Continue to swallow lies both hook, line and sinker

I didn't see any lie in any comment. Show me the so called lies . I'm waiting!

Aemmyjah:
King James is completely honest shey?

Have you ever seen a honest, true seeking Christian who depends on King James alone like you do your new world translation?

Or has King James ever claimed to be the only true Bible like your organization claims for your book?

Aemmyjah:
Thank you very much
Those images are fine examples of national defense

If you can't defend your nation, why should you defend yourself? Why should you call on the same law enforcements you say you discourage people from enlisting in?

Aemmyjah:
Well
Our publications do not force any reader to accept it's message
We just show you all the details about popular practices and doctrines in a logical manner?
We have used the same question to address other things such as
Should you believe in angels
Should you believe in God
Should you believe in the Bible


Your low level of thinking won't allow you to reason properly

The bolded applies to you 100%.

What we're talking about is the heavy manipulation of someone's book and the heavy manipulation of the Bible. Who's asking you how you arrived at the questions of Should you believe in Angels, etc. Please read well before responding.

oteneaaron:
What leading Protestant Greek scholars say about the "New World Translation" :

Dr. Bruce M. Metzger, professor of New Testament at Princeton University, calls the NWT "a frightful mistranslation,.. Erroneous...pernicious...reprehensible.. If the Jehovah's Witnesses take this translation seriously, they are polytheists." (Professor of New Testament Language and Literature)

Dr. William Barclay, a leading Greek scholar, said "it is abundantly clear that a sect which can translate the New Testament like that is intellectually dishonest."

British scholar H.H. Rowley stated, "From beginning to end this volume is a shining example of how the Bible should not be translated....Well, as a backdrop, I was disturbed because they (Watchtower) had misquoted me in support of their translation." (These words were excerpted from the tape, "Martin and Julius Mantey on The New World Translation", Mantey is quoted on pages 1158-1159 of the Kingdom interlinear Translation)

Dr. Julius Mantey , author of A Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament, calls the NWT "a shocking mistranslation...Obsolete and incorrect...It is neither scholarly nor reasonable to translate John 1:1 'The Word was a god...I have never read any New Testament so badly translated as The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of The Greek Scriptures.... it is a distortion of the New Testament. The translators used what J.B. Rotherham had translated in 1893, in modern speech, and changed the readings in scores of passages to state what Jehovah's Witnesses believe and teach. That is a distortion not a translation." (Julius Mantey , Depth Exploration in The New Testament (N.Y.: Vantage Pres, 1980), pp.136-137) the translators of the NWT are "diabolical deceivers." (Julius Mantey in discussion with Walter Martin)

Source: http://catholicapologetics.info/scripture/translations/neworld.htm

CC: Courz, FxMasterz, Achorladey, Emusan

Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah, Janosky, Michael547. By now, you are supposed to have followed that link and researched more on this subject.

Every right thinking person knows that the GB didn't birth Christianity. They also received it. Christianity has its foundation upon which everyone must build. The original manuscripts for example are the foundations for any other language translation. Except for someone bent on mischief, all translations must remain true to the original manuscripts. Any translation that says something different from what the original writings say is trying to pull people away from the faith and give them another religion - a fake gospel.

Without doubt, your New Worlds Translation have DELIBERATELY changed, mistranslated removed several verses from the original translations. Definitely, what you're holding in your hand differs greatly from the original manuscripts. Some of the words are not the Words of Jesus, and a great deal of the ideas were not held by the apostles. You yourselves have never denied this claim. Which means you already know. Except you're an agent of Satan, you would not continue supporting such deception.

If what you hold defers from what the apostles believed in, then you're really endangering your soul.

Jude 1:3
"Beloved, although I made every effort to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt it necessary to write and urge you to contend earnestly for the faith entrusted once for all to the saints."

By confirming the originality of biblical writings and taking a stand for the honest and undiluted translation of Scripture, you're obeying the Lord by CONTENDING EARNESTLY FOR THE FAITH WHICH WAS ONCE FOR ALL ENTHRUSTED UNTO THE SAINTS.

Emusan:
That is it!

And the funny thing is that, if you see Watchtower talking about other, you'll think they are so vast in the knowledge of the written languages of the Bible.

Meanwhile, what they are doing is just like permutation, go to the library of the so called CHRISTENDOM copy their works and even DELIBERATELY MISQUOTED them just to continue to deceive their followers.

Do you know that Dr B.M Metzger @Oteneaaron made reference to has to personally wrote letter to Watchtower to stop using his work because of manipulation. The same with Professor George Howard.

Watchtower published a booklet titled Should you believe in the Trinity?

You won't believe the lies and misquotes full that booklet just because they want to proof trinity isn't Biblical, as people begin to call them out they have to withdraw the booklet.

Below is the letter George Howard wrote to clarify they usage of his work by Watchtower, read it and see the self acclaimed ONLY TRUE CHRISTIAN and mouthpiece of God being exposed.

Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah Janosky and Michael547, have you seen how your organization also manipulated someone's book to support their deceptive ideologies? Those who can manipulate the Bible would manipulate anything anyway. I just want to show you that the author of the book they manipulated has disowned them in the letter attached.

Thanks Emusan for this.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy please take it easy faith shouldn't create aggression you are taking this too far.
If you believe A and i believe B it shouldn't lead to this!

Not so. I'm just really offended that you guys have dragged many souls to hell, and you here are still supporting the obvious evils even after you have read about it in black and white. You've even watched videos as well, yet you remain adamant. Your reluctance to even verify the information as a honest seeker of truth is the most worrisome. Each time you read about the honest findings of people here about the satanic organization to which you belong, your only robotic response is Better Performing Organization. You've been messed up. You look absolutely irredeemable but Jesus Christ can still deliver you if you humble yourself before Him.

MaxInDHouse:
Oteneaaron has gotten you the way he wants now you're filled with aggression.

Just take it easy so you won't have high blood pressure your fury can't change anything we choose to believe unless you present a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Keep your mouth shut with the better performing organization nonsense. Better performing organization of fraudsters who mistranslate scriptures to suit their own ideologies. No fear of God whatsoever! So an organization that deliberately manipulated scriptures is a better performance organization? Something must be wrong with you.