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Asquare84:
The deposed Emir should just respect himself and vacate the throne, I never knew he could be power hungry. When sanusi was humiliated from the palace he did not fight anyone but remain calm.

Come ooo, how can even a judge even pass a judgement to override the law of a state.

The deposed emir is the heir apparent to the throne.

Sanusi is his cousin and was not in line to reign. Kwankwaso put sanusi there to shield him from arrest after he left the CBN.

Ado Bayero is the one being cheated. Don't be ignorant.

Michael547:
Oga mention the ones that were not settled na. And why are pastors today not settling biblical doctrinal contradictions like the apostles?

Why did JW not settle their biblical doctrinal contradictions with other Christians today like the apostles?

Aemmyjah:
We don't condemn education?
Can you define education?

We're carrying out the greatest educational work on earth and we have the greatest educator who teaches us freely and the results is far better than any career
So rest

Point of correction Aemmyjah! You are carrying out the greatest deception and Bible manipulation on earth and have the greatest deceiver as you teacher who teaches you to deceive people and deny sound doctrines of God's Word.

Regarding education,
I mean University education to be precise.

Keep making yourself happy with all the lies you've been telling yourself.

Again, JWs are christians
True Christians

We are not like you that preachove your neighbor as yourself but justifying wars in the name of nationalism

Keep deceiving yourself. Maxindhouse says Christiendom has been corrupted or so, so you chose a different name for yourselves. I don't think Max identifies as a Christian.

We preach love. We don't justify wars. We justify personal defence and by extension, national defense. While you hypocrites justify personal defence and disparage national defence. You are too uneducated to see the interrelationship between the two.

Michael547:
You should list them oga. You were the one that said that not all doctrinal matters were resolved. So you can list them.

Not all doctrinal matters were resolved in Acts 15. They only tackled the one that surfaced at the time. The epistles that were written were written to address other matters. And matters continued to arise even after the apostles were gone. The JW organization for example created a cult out of doctrinal matters.

Aemmyjah:
Are you better than JWs
What do you mean by all JWs are all Christians
Are we not Christian

Are your all Christians in agreement? Or cos wuna get one market union like CAN and PFN?

God forbid that I should claim to be better than anyone. We're here condemning those who condemned education. Education was in the world in the time of Jesus and in the days of the apostles. They never condemned it. Who are your GBs to condemn what Christ has not condemned?

JWs claim not to be christians. If you have opposing views, bring out your clarification.

We are all in agreement by the grace of God. We appreciate God for our 'Market Unions'. That's better than being a cult like the JW.

Michael547:
Can you list some of the doctrinal disagreements that was not resolved?

Would you list them please?

Aemmyjah:
Is the JW stand on university education a problem to you?

Are u more educated than JWs wey no even get any formal education?

Rest

How can it be a problem to me when I'm not affected by it in anyway?

Is your comparative question about my education and that of JWs a generalization that extends to all JWs and all Christians?

achorladey:
Don't mind that werey peddling brains. Bringing the full document here will only add more to the exposure. What he called snippet is to show that they will lie, manipulate the scriptures and peddle falsehood and expect all it's members to accept.

Why were they in court, they were seeking recognition and registration to get some certain licenses that is given to HIERARCHICAL religious organization. They already brag and boast that such hierarchy does not exist in their midst. In order to get those licenses they fought tooth and nail in the court that their religious organization is a hierarchical one the reason all members must listen to the leadership irrespective of the fact that they are being lied to. They must obey as subordinates

Let him bring the documents to counter the above.

I commend your good knowledge of JW organization. This piece even brings more clarity to that court event.

Janosky, the lover of 'Iberiberism' should come and give us the full document for more clarity.

Aemmyjah:
You're really dense
University education is not encouraged for several reasons
One is that the environment is not good morally as it can expose young minds to social vices especially when they're away from home and exposed to all that stuff
Another reason is the frustration it gives at the end where you have a certificate with no good job and many other things
Also, we want to be encouraged to take up careers that will not place our spirituality at jeopardy. All Jehovah's Witnesses must preach the Good news. We have doctors, lawyers, engineers,etc. those degrees are not what really matters to us as Christians and it doesn't distinguish us from others

Instead, we're encouraged to learn vocational skills that will be valuable to us for work. I can choose to skip school and go learn tech in a tech school for few months or online courses

Whether one goes to the university does not make him better than someone who does not. What matters most is that you can take care of yourself and family whichever way you can and serve God faithfully


Someone that is attributing errors to the Bible is accusing someone of forsaking God's word? De play
I hope you're not envious of him

So, why didn't they establish universities for JW members if they fear vices and other possible problems?

Is the lack of job after graduation an intelligent reason for discouraging university education? What stops you from establishing your own practice and make a difference?

Who told you that getting educated is going to hamper your spirituality? How does having certificates hamper spirituality ? Please explain.

The Bible says "We know in part". Humans wrote the Bible under Devine inspiration. God uses what you know to bless people. You could make mistakes while being used of God because you're human. That does not mean that God made mistakes. God is just using what is available here on earth (imperfect men) to bless the earth .

The Bible is the WORD of God. Not the WORDs of God. Get that clear. There's a message the Bible carries. Just one message - Love and Salvation. The whole Bible rests on this one message.

The humans who wrote the Bible are not Devine humans. They're imperfect humans who 'know in part.'

If you don't study the Bible for yourself and see things the way they are rather than going by popular opinion, you'll fall into many errors.

I can't be disappointed if I find such an error as Mark saying David asked shewbread from Abiathar when it was actually Ahimelech that was in the story.

achorladey:
his werey peddlings is really pronounced when he was using Matthew 6:33 to justify not going for higher education and then coming back to tell us he is a university graduate and tech literate. Looool

I was shocked o!

Janosky, may God deliver you.

Janosky:
Mumu post of a WAILER.



"they (JW's) came to see that Jehovah and their relationship with him should be the focus of their worship. We can be thankful that we understand that our affection for Jesus is key to having a relationship with Jehovah. We must attach neither too much nor too little importance to our love for Jesus.​—John 16:27.

JW's can NOT worship Jesus.
Angels don't even dare it.
That is the Bible instructions.
If e pain you, continue WAILING.


Did the angel that Jesus sent to John instruct you to worship the Lamb, Jesus?

Janosky, calm down and read patiently from Revelation 5:11-14

" 11 Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. 12 In a loud voice they were saying:

“Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain,
to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength
and honor and glory and praise!”

13 Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying:

“To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb
be praise and honor and glory and power,
for ever and ever!”

14 The four living creatures said, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshiped. "

Have you praised the Lamb today? He's worthy to receive your praise.

Janosky:

As e dey sweet JW's to call upon professional expertise of fellow JW's nah so e dey pain WAILING WAILERS.

The fact that these Professionals & experienced Experts are JW's is great evidence that these WAILING WAILERS are sifia pained murmurers.
I have tech skills plus university qualifications, same for my fellow JW's, but WAILERS must WAIL.

Nah the same WAILING WAILERS wey go dey preach viable Tech/IT /vocational skills acquisition nah them dey WAIL about JW's.
Hypocrites, Go & hug transformers nearest to your house,bad belle Kee una there.

Oh boy! How come you have tech skills and university education against the laws of JW organization? It seems you're now carnal minded, and have forsaken your heavenly focus. You have disobeyed the Word of God as written in Mathew 6:33!

Shame on you!

Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah, Cornelboy, Michael547, come and call your brother to order. He's now very carnal. He must be disfellowshipped.

Michael547:
Was the doctrinal disagreement in Acts 15 later resolved? Or was it left to everyone to decide what they will believe independently?

The doctrinal disagreement was resolved but that does not mean that all doctrinal disagreements were resolved. Most of the epistles of the new testament were written to address doctrinal disagreements. Acts 15 shows that we're still brothers even in the midst of disagreements.

Janosky:
FX Masterz extracted 2 pages from the full proceedings transcript of the Court in his possession , (which he uses to fuel his delusions ).
FX Masterz is asking me to "post the full court proceedings, we'll like to check something."

You removed 2 pages yet you don't want to post the entire proceedings & final judgement of the presiding judge.

FX Masterz, you are very DISHONEST & wedded to IBERIBEISM.

Lol.

Was I even the source of the document? You lied already by accusing me of being the source of the document to prove a point.

For you to claim that the full document ends in your favor, it means you have the full document. The onus lies on you to post the full document to prove your point. Else, you're a liar.

Janosky:
Mark 12:30
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“'And you shall love THE LORD JEHOVAH your God with your whole heart and with your entire soul and with your entire mind and with all your power.' This is the first commandment"

Mark 12:30 = "they (JW's) came to see that Jehovah and their relationship with him should be the focus of their worship."

FX, are you willing to obey Jesus instructions @ Mark 12:30 & by extension Galatians 5:22-23?
or listen to Achorladey MUMU WAILING WAILER deceiving himself?

Oga, Mark 12:30 & Galatians 5:22-23 has exposed your IBERIBEISM.

Since they told you Jesus is a mere angel, how can you understand? They've messed you up already. You can't understand until you're delivered from JW captivity.

Janosky:
Matthew 6:33, did Jesus instruct you to pursue higher education?

Are you more educated than JW's in your locality?

JW's no dey make noise.

FX IBERIBEISM.

Janosky!!

Did Jesus instruct you not to pursue higher education?

Mathew 6:33

Michael547:
Was the disagreement that Paul and Barnabas had a biblical doctrinal disagreements?
If yes, what was the doctrinal matter about?

The disagreement Paul and Barnabas had was not doctrinal but they had a disagreement. That's the point. There could be disagreements. That doesn't dissolve the oneness of Christ's body.

The disagreement recorded in Acts 15 was doctrinal. Why did you avoid talking about this?

Obierika:
What's the process of blacklisting the BVN of a person who is owing you?

One bastard has been owing me N1.5 million for about 5 years now and I'm tired of his stories

The OP made this post purposely to propagate the scam link he posted on the post. Put your BVN in that link at your own peril.

muyico:
ok

I pity anyone who inserts his/bvn in that link the op posted. They're using the link to collect your bvn. Beware, your bank account would be wiped out!

The mods should do the right thing by taking down this thread.

Maynman:
You did, and your theories of “conspiracy theories”.

Rest Fx.

You should just have quoted what I said. I only told the guy that he's not bringing a new thing here. Maynman has been propagating the same conspiracy theories.

Was that a mention for debate or you just love unnecessary arguments?

Maynman:
If you were resting you won’t be telling someone theories and referencing me?

And I also told you that there is no end, Enjoy this life NOW and don’t base your life on promises you read in a book.
Listen to your advice and also, Rest.

Who was referencing you and what theories did I tell anybody?

Rest mayn.

Michael547:
😁😁😁you've technically not asked me any question.
You've been asking who gave me right to examine the doctrines of pastors that you've recommended.
That question shows that you don't have answer to my question of if all these pastors are in agreement when it comes to biblical doctrines.

You are saying i dont have right to examine the doctrines of your recommended pastors but you've been examining the teachings of the JWs. Is that not hypocrisy?

Michael547, Stop disturbing Mightysparrow. He already knows you force falsehood on your congregations, that's why he's asking you who made you a judge of pastors' doctrines?

Pastors are humans. They're not God. They can disagree on matters of interpretation. It happened in Acts 15. Paul and Barnabas had disagreements too. One agreement we all have as Christians is that Christ is the Son of God (not an angel) who came to die for man's sins, and resurrected to give us eternal life. He's coming again for His saints to live together with Him for all eternity. That's our common ground.

No pastor forces his doctrines on church members. You can feed on the Word of God from a pastor, you're free to disagree with some things. Ask questions and debate doctrines during Bible studies. Get home and study for yourself. Hold to whatever you know to be the truth. Follow Jesus. Not any man. That's it.

Doctrines don't separate us. We are one in Christ Jesus. It's not doctrines that make us one but Christ.

The Roman Catholics deviate completely from the very foundations of Christian doctrine. That's why the OP sees that they're not Christians. That's a church that worships the queen of heaven - Semiramis (Astaroth) disguised as Mary the mother of Jesus. They worship images.

All those pastors mentioned by Mightysparrow are still brothers in Christ. They fellowship together and have respect for one another even though there might be slight differences in doctrines.

Jesus is the basis for our oneness. Not doctrines.

Maynman:
“Yahweh of israEl”
Who is El?


There’s no “you” when you are dead anymore.
People will forever come and go, Fx, there’s no end and no heaven and hell waiting for you.

If you were resting yourself you wouldn’t have mentioned me in your quotes, listen to your advice.

I only told someone you've been on the same conspiracy theory as he is on this forum. Did I mention you for debate?

No need to argue with you.

As I've said, you'll confirm it yourself. The end would tell. So, rest.

Aemmyjah:
In the passage of is also one of the natural meanings of epi as I showed u from Luke account of the thornbush

I remember you showing me for the word 'epic' and not the Greek word 'epi'.

Aemmyjah:
But epi could mean in the passage about shey?

See the screenshot below
It used the same preposition, epi, not epic

You're still not giving us the justification for the use of the word "account". You said it's a notion. An insertion that happened as a result of some hermeneutical solution.

Meanwhile 'in the time of' is not a nation. Neither is it an hermeneutical solution. It is one of the natural meanings of epi. It fits naturally into the verse and its context, while the hermeneutical solution has to bring in a word foreign to the verse - 'account', to give it a new meaning.

Maynman:
“Yahweh of israEl”
Who is El?


There is no End. Enjoy this life NOW and don’t base your life on promises you read in a book.

You'll soon confirm this yourself. There's no end since you'll live forever. Rest, mayn.

Maynman:
“Yahweh of israEl”
Who is El?


No, you haven’t read ANY. If not you won’t be defending a Middle East god who is jealous of other Middle East gods.

An African wants “Yahweh of Israel” to answer his prayers 😂

Rest. Cling to whatever you have chosen for yourself. The end will tell.

Maynman:
“Yahweh of israEl”
Who is El?

Better go read up on the cannanite pantheon where your creator Yahweh was adopted into.

I have read enough. So, rest.

Maynman:
correction: yahweh of shasu

Correction: Yahweh of Israel.

advocatejare:
Of course, Muhammad said demons are attached to all of them and that the demons sleep inside their nostrils every night and that is why they rinse their nostrils with water during ablutions to chase the demons away! How dumb can that be? Using water to chase demons away

Only a brainwashed human being would believe that water would chase demons away from his nose. Lolz.

Yes, they share religion with demons

Quran 72:14
And among us (Al-jinn) are Muslims and among us are the unjust. And whoever has become Muslim - those have sought out the right course.

Why are they then sending the demons away with water? Don't they want their fellow Muslims to keep dwelling in their nostrils?

Abutwins, aka antichristian, can you answer the question please?

achorladey:
You see what I noticed again after reading it is the bold.....

They love their money more than anything. Any other thing can be thrown under the bus not the money. They will seek best of the best to defend and save their money.

I noticed it at first glance. The financial side was an emphasis for me. They don't want to spend. They're looking for mumus whom they'll use while promising them imaginary heavenly benefits.

These ones will complete University education, become regular pioneers, circuit overseers and climb their platforms to discourage others about what they did successfully and even sponsor their own children to go to university while discouraging the children of members placed under their authority

Can you imagine? It's like what most African kings did in those days. They were discouraging their townsmen from sending their kids to the white man's schools so that they'll not have shortage of farm labourers. Meanwhile, the kings were sending their princes to schools secretly. Some princes were even secretly sent abroad.

Wicked hypocrites.

achorladey:
Abi ooooo

They will even go after the best of the best in those they call false Christians to help them solve their predicament.

Then when they're threatened, they'll also call for law enforcements agents and force men whom they say are unscriptural to come defend them.