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Aemmyjah:
Which war did the Apostles fight or support?
Were they not attacked

Which war did they apostles speak against?

Michael547:
Are you saying that there is no Christian in the opposing side of war?
Ah....So God will not care whether I kill a fellow Christian in war?

God knows how to protect His people on both sides.

Michael547:
Yes na.....You've told me to join the army and defend my country na.

Can you show me where I asked you to join the army?

Michael547:
Are you assuring us that we would never meet and kill fellow Christians in the opposing side while defending our country in war?

Am I the one to assure you?

Michael547:
No.....are you assuring me that I will not meet any Christian in the opposing side?

Are you going there to fight the christians? Defend your nation and leave the rest to God.

Aemmyjah:
You said follow Jesus na
Will Jesus be pleased if I follow him and love kill my neighbor
That neighbor includes you

If you're in the army, defend your country. Defend your family. Defend your loved ones. If you're not in the army, support those defending you. Don't be foolish.

Aemmyjah:
Well
Jesus said we should be wise as serpent as also peaceable


You're talking about going to wars
You're now jumping to confronting a criminal

Just de play

A criminal individual and a warmongering leader have no difference, for example, Adolf Hitler.

Be wise as Serpents, be meek as dove. That's telling you strike a balance.

Love your neighbors. Sell your garments and buy a sword. That's telling you to strike a balance.

Being an extremist in either of the two positions is unscriptural.

Aemmyjah:
Follow Jesus and love your neighbor as yourself kill your neighbor

While following Jesus, lay your head down for a criminal to cut it off. That's your definition of love?

Some of you don't even know that scripture provides balance for every position.

Aemmyjah:
You Will be happy na
It's still you that when war strikes that will start to run instead of taking up arms
Jus de play

Let me run in peace. But I'll not be foolish enough to say soldiers are not needed.

Aemmyjah:
If war strikes, you'll run
Continue claiming aggressive

Our position shows we love our neighbors as ourselves. Something you don't have

I don't want to run, that's why I appreciate the efforts of soldiers who defend the country.

Aemmyjah:
How do I defend my nation?
If you have a relative in Ghana and I kill him to defend nation
Will you appreciate my nationalistic efforts over the death of your relative?

You're asking childish questions.

Aemmyjah:
If everyone is defrauded, the whole world will be in peace without any fear of harm
But let us remain in fraud and enjoy a global brotherhood while you kill your brothers to serve your fatherland with heart and might

Keep deceiving yourself.

You mean the fraud in JW is good as long as you're asked to lay down your necks in the face of external aggression to your country? Fraud is fraud, and it's bad, no matter how it looks.

Michael547:
While defending my country in war, is it possible for me to kill Christians too?

Is killing christians your intention for going to war?

Michael547:
Which one is church follower again? Is Jesus no longer the head of the church?
Is church now bad?

Jesus is the Head of the Church. We follow Jesus, not church.

Aemmyjah:
I always defend myself
I've not gone to war

If you can defend yourself. You can also defend your nation. Don't be an hypocrite.

achorladey:
Research outside the organization endorsed material is tantamount to apostasy. All the response are what they already accepted from their GODS of men housed in USA and packed into their brains. You see that bold ehn

Fraud! The earlier they see this fraud, the better.

Michael547:
Ahhh....why are you hiding the true church na....others may even benefit from the information.

Are you a church follower or a follower of Jesus Christ?

Michael547:
They may not say so. But Are you saying that we would never encounter other Christians in war who may be on the opposing side?

Is your intent to kill Christians in war or to defend your country?

Michael547:
After doing all that, what church should we now start going to?

Do that first. Then come back to ask this question.

Michael547:
So how do I go about this discretion?

You can ask your 4yr old son.

achorladey:
I spent years in that religious organization even defended them here on nairaland. Yet people on this platform made me do investigation based on the discussion I kept having with them. By the time I complete my investigation. My hand fall. All I was defending was a construction of man whose foundation were built on lies and manipulations of people and their publications. The very thing they accuse others of doing and called them false Christians is the very thing they are doing and want members to see them as the only true Christians


Double standards, double face.

Wow! Good to hear.

I will advise Maxindhouse, Michael547, Janosky and Aemmyjah etc to research outside the organization to find out whether they've been deceived or not. They should start by examining their Bible against original manuscripts of scripture with proper language and word research.

But I'm sure these guys would never follow this advice. They love their deceivers and enjoy the deceits.

Michael547:
So does that mean that in defending my nation with my personal discretion, I can just wake up one morning and with my personal discretion, i just pick up my gun and go to war with you?

Or is there any other way I engage in this war?

If that's what using your discretion means to you, then I'm afraid.

Michael547:
It is a rebellion. So when government say we should go to war, should we kill Christians too or just people of other religions?

Is the government saying you should go to war against Christians?

achorladey:
They were emphatic in saying all other churches were liars and teaching falsehood by interpreting the same Romans 13:1 to refer to governmental authorities instead of Jehovah and Jesus.


It took them years to realise their folly and then correct their mistake to make it fit with other Christian denominations that believe it refers to human governmental authorities

By the time the correction was made. Terrible things that cannot be recovered happen to many of their members

Wow! You know too much about them.

achorladey:
FxMasterz

I have been trying to recall the reason they said they are neutral to war or politics.

It is simply because they lied and said Romans 13:1 was about Jehovah and Jesus not about human government by the time they realise their lies and manipulations many had suffered untold consequences following those lies especially the death of many of their members during World War 2. To cover up the whole issue they introduced neutrality to war and politics only to go the way of alternative service for those who are not willing to go to war

Romans 13 1
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established."

Lol. They're Jokers. If government says you should go to war and you refuse, is that not rebellion against the authority?

Aemmyjah:
Should a Christian smoke?
Yes or No?

How does not answer the question of whether a Christian should defend himself?

oteneaaron:
Well, the Jehovah's Witnesses have rules of engagement when it comes to making love to your own wife.

Just like their flip flop doctrines, they have been confused on whether it is right for married couples to engage in oral & anaal sex.

In 1974, it was a disfellowshipping offence for married couples.

In 1978, it was no longer a disfellowshipping offence for married couples.

In 1983, it once again became a disfellowshipping of fence for married couples.

Since 2011, they have been vague about this.

For direct quotes from their publications, see this article - https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/oral-anal-sex.php

Imagine a religion that dictates how you should sleep with your own wife!

😁😁

Thanks for this heads-up. This is hilarious. The organization is a joke.

achorladey:
Define persecution and stop peddling your sympathy and apologetics for insurgent and terrorist.

The same politicians were giving God's organization and the better performing performance group in Norway money to persecute them. That's why you are running helter-skelter to get free money that you don't pay TAX to obtain from the same persecutors

FxMasterz more updates for you regarding persecution

You've given him the right response. He should get out if he can't define persecution.

achorladey:
He wants to redefine persecution for you. Na one of his mode of operation. He will tell you that you don't really understand what persecution mean

It's quite shameful when they attempt to defend their falsehoods, they'll end up contradicting themselves and their publications all in an attempt to defend doctrines that are contrary to the Bible.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know the meaning of PERSECUTION?

Perhaps sometime weapon carriers are also persecuted by weapon carriers!

Chai. Is it not a waste of time to be discussing with you?

Please tell us the dictionary meaning of persecution and how it relates to personal or national defence against a dangerous criminal.

Michael547:
So who decides the technicalities and tactics about how we christians are going to defend the nation?
Who are the enemies that we Christians should target whenever we go to war? Are there certain enemies that we should avoid?

So, who decides the technicalities about how we Christians should be climbing our wives? What are the types of beds or mats we christians must use whenever we want to do it? Are there certain room lightenings that we should avoid?

MaxInDHouse:
When they persecute you in one city, flee to another; for truly I say to you, you will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel until the Son of man arrives. Matthew 10:23

Please can you interpret the highlighted in blue as the Son of God ordered his disciples and tell me what they're supposed to do when other Jews wants to DEFEND their nation?

It says, when they PERSECUTE you. Not when a criminal attacks your home or nation.