₦airaland Forum

BitterTruth0001:
I would’ve commended your post but it’s not balanced and treats only side of the equation
I don’t know what tribe you’re from but you fail to address the fact Yoruba people ate some of the most arrogant people that exist on this planet .
I am widely travelled , Across multiple African counties , the Middle East and the Americas .
The Yorubas remind me of Nazi Germany, the air of superiority they have towards other Nigerians is nauseating.
They even ignorantly refer to themselves as a race, forgetting there’s only one race , the human race.

An Igbo man boasts , but he only talks about himself and his achievements .

The Yoruba always looks at other Nigerian tribes and derives his arrogance from within the context of the multi-ethnic , socio-economic complexities of the Nigerian space . That my friend is more systemic and troubling

Don’t be a hypocrite

I disagree with your arguments.

I don't think most other Nigerian tribes see Yorubas as "arrogant" or "Nazis". I would even argue they have the best brand and goodwill, from all other tribes, out of all the major tribes in Nigeria.

Yes, they do show a lot of pride in their history, culture, traditions, language and achievements, but definitely not in a nauseating way. As a matter of fact, they put out there pride in such a way that they are happy for others to be included in it and share in the enjoyment; and Nigerians are frequently adopting aspects of it. That is what happens when you don't disparage others and show arrogance.

Most people know Yorubas are proud and that they think they are the best, but at least they don't go around saying it publicly, nor do they try to belittle others with it. If they are going to say something bad about another tribe, they are experts in saying it behind your back and not heat up tribal wars.

That said, the thread was not about Yorubas; it was about Igbo brand challenges. I don't even know why you insist I must talk about Yorubas "to be balanced" out of all tribes in Nigeria. It is obvious many Igbos see Yorubas as their main competition in their need to claim being the best.

humilitypays:
Agreed Igbos have plenty issues, Igbos are the worst tribe or humans ever created by God, I am not here to argue or prove you wrong for what you already believe in.

All I am saying is, attack Igbos directly and stop hiding behind everybody hate Igbo to spew your hatred against Igbos.



Lastly, you cannot force a tribe to change who they are just to suite your desire, the best thing to do is to cut off that tribe and enjoy your peace. To this effect, the best solution is peaceful division of Nigeria so Igbos can go stay on their own with their plenty wahala so Yorubas and every other tribes that hate Igbos can live without worrying about Igbos tarnishing the unblemished wonderful image of the Yorubas.



This to me is what Yorubas should be working to achieve at least now that Yorubas have all the political power to shape Nigeria the way they want it without having to be spreading hatred and propaganda about Igbos every blessed day.


Use your federal political gains now to expel Igbos from Nigeria or divide Nigeria so Igbos can carry their boastful arrogant, annoying wahala and go, because expecting Igbos to change to make Yorubas happy will never work till eternity, so simply cut them off once and for all and have your amazing country without the troublesome Igbos

You have an under-developed brain.

Instead of trying to identify "what tribe is attacking us" and the useless "be brave" nonsense, you should have the IQ to listen to what is said, comprehend it, evaluate it, rebut ones you might want to rebut and then think about your role in improving and developing your people.

That is what someone with high IQ would do. This is just one angle of a defect. The other one is the culture of being known for drugs to the point NL is full of NCAN.

If people like you had been doing high IQ stuff (i.e. listen to what is said, comprehend it, evaluate it, rebut ones you might want to rebut and then think about your role in improving and developing your people), the problem of 95% of those caught selling drugs abroad being from just one tribe would drastically change. It is shameful for even South Africans, Indians, Thais to be able to identify the tribe in Nigeria that carries and sells drugs. It is not because they too are "jealous" or "envious" of you and your "success" (like some of you would prefer to claim in defence, instead of addressing the culture driving the bad behaviours synonymous with your tribe and changing it so your tribe brand becomes better).

Listen to what is said, comprehend it, evaluate it, rebut ones you might want to rebut and then think about your role in improving and developing your people!

If almost every tribe has a problem with your tribe, the problem is not every other tribe.

nedu666:
Op let it be known we don't give a damn what the rest of Nigeria think about us. Igbos are too busy and important to waste time gossiping over other ethnic groups. We are allergic to idiots

Boisterous, chest-beating.

humilitypays:
You lack comprehension.


I am not here to say who is wrong or right.


I am saying, you Yorubas should learn to fight your enemies directly one on one, stop instigating others to join you in fighting who you hate.


Fight your enemy man to man. Stop gaslighting others to join you in hating and fighting who you hate, it makes you guys appear cowardly which you are known for.



Be brave, challenge Igbos directly.


Attack Igbos directly.


Condemn Igbos directly as Yorubas not "the same way we Yorubas hate Igbos is how every tribe hate Igbos too"


Allow "every tribe" that hate Igbos to come out on their own and attack or condemn Igbos, it is none of your business, focus on how and why Yorubas hate Igbos, stop hiding behind others to spew your usual hatred for Igbos.


That is my point

You lack high IQ.

Firstly, you make an assumption I am Yoruba.

Secondly, you are trying to deflect from the defect many see with the Igbo tribe, instead of addressing the defect.

ValarDoharis:
Why should we change the narrative? We lefts Nigeria btw 1967-1970 but Nigeria fought to bring Biafra back to Nigeria, you have to deal with us!

Ah! Victim-siege mentality.

Part of the problem.

ValarDoharis:
Everyday Igbo this, Igbo that!

Make una rest!

There is no Hausa this, Hausa that everyday.

No Yoruba this, Yoruba that everyday.

No Kanuri this, Kanuri that everyday.

No Bini this, Bini that everyday.

No Tiv this, Tiv that everyday.

No Ibibio this, Ibibio that everyday.

No Igala this, Igala that everyday.

No Ijaw this, Ijaw that everyday.

So, you really cannot see the problem and try and explore how to change things to change the narrative?

humilitypays:
Why can't a Yoruba person that wants to condemn or criticize or attack Igbos come out brave and say:

We Yorubas hate Igbos and we are ready to live without Igbos. And we also welcome peaceful division of Nigeria so that we can be on our own without the boastful, arrogant Igbos?


Why must every Yoruba person that wants to criticize or condemn or attack Igbos first start by reminding us how every other tribe hate Igbos?


Dear Yorubas, please stand on your own in your hate and attack against Igbos, stop hiding behind everybody hate Igbos.

Leave how other tribes hate Igbos, it doesn't concern you, focus on how you and your fellow Yorubas dislike or hate Igbos or how your tribe dislike or hate Igbos, stop forcing other tribes to join you in hating Igbos.


Stop gaslighting other tribes to join you in hating Igbos. Stand on your own and attack Igbos on your own, trying to tell the world how India, America, China, Togo, Ghana, South Africa, Gabon, Japan all hate Igbos because they boast or do this and that as your backup reason for hating Igbos makes you and the entire Yoruba tribe appear cowardly and scared of facing Igbos one on one without hiding behind others or ganging up against Igbos.



Talk about how and why you and your fellow Yorubas hate Igbos, stop telling us how Ijaw, Hausa, Bini, Idoma, etc also hate Igbos, allow them to talk about their own hatred for Igbos you this unscrupulous Yoruba people.



If an Igbo person wants to attack Yorubas, he will go straight to attack Yorubas and tell you why he hate Yorubas as a people, he won't first start telling u how the whole world hate Yorubas for being deceitful, cunning, unreliable, treacherous and dirty in nature. He will tell Yorubas straight up that he hate Yorubas for this and that because Igbos don't need any other tribe to join them to attack or condemon or fight Yorubas or any tribe. We no de fear anybody Papa, we no de find backup or people to join us in fighting ordinary Yoruba people lol


Dear Yorubas pls grow up.



The whole world hate Igbos that's fine, allow the whole world to fight Igbos when Igbos offend them, focus on fighting or condemning or attacking Igbos single handedly as Yorubas, stop hiding behind other people hate Igbos to spill your hatred for Igbos, be brave for once in you peoples treacherous life

So, your point is "nothing is wrong, they are just jealous of us"?

Enugurangers:
Good post op.

Wow!

I never knew the great man and mind said this.

Honestly, I have lived my life watching how some few Igbos destroy the Igbo brand.

I have also read articles and seen clips about Nigerian history, some presented by independent whites, that show that certain inter-tribal relations culture by the Igbos has not changed for the better in over 70 years.

The way Igbos were described (the good and the bad) 70, 50, 30 years ago is generally the way most Nigerians would describe them today. Fair enough that same applies to some other tribes too.

But some of the bad is highly detrimental to Igbo people and the brand today, despite the great potential and ease of that not being the case, and this is not being discussed. It is sad if you ask non-Igbo people across Nigeria the tribe they 'like the least' in Nigeria and force them to answer, Igbos would play a significant role at the top across the country. This is why the bad needs to be highlighted, discussed and action should take place to intentionally change or adjust.

Let me state some observations I have made:

The chest-beating, self-delusions of some few igbo people
- Igbos don’t run Nigeria’s economy
- Nigeria would not fail without Igbos
- Igbos are not developing or transforming any part of Nigeria outside the SE
- Igbo states are not the richest states
- Igbos are not the richest Nigerians
- Igbo states (or the SE region) are not the most developed even once you remove Lagos & FCT

The facts
- Igbos are probably the most trade-inclined tribe
- Igbos are good at trade
- Igbos really only dominate (1) Transport, (2) Spare parts, (3) Electronics, (4) Building materials and (5) Hospitality sectors
- Igbos are probably the tribe that are most spread across Nigeria as local residents
- Igbos are highly competitive and a successful tribe in all aspects of life in Nigeria



To make clear, Igbos are not feared by other tribes, neither are other tribes jealous/envious of Igbos. The uncouth and antagonistic boisterous nature of a few, but sufficiently significant number of, Igbos and these few Igbo’s culture of trying to claim superiority or attack other tribes just ends up with the Igbos breaking/damaging bonds with other tribes.

You can be good at whatever you do, and even vocalise this prowess, without a need to boast you are better than everyone else, you are their benefactors, you dominate them and you will always be the best, especially when all you can back it up with is daft and wrong evidence. Even Messi, Lebron James, Einstein, Michael Jackson etc. do/did not talk like that.

This should be spread across the Igbo community!

Straighttime:
Igbos are the main unifying factor for the existence of Nigerians in Nigeria.

Since some people/tribes have been threatening them with their multi billion dollars investments a cross all sectors and regions in the country. They have chosen to channel their wealth and domicile them in their region.

Soon people will start migrating to their region for jobs.

Are you having a laugh or you are smoking discarded tire?

Alpharey:
And so? You and those Nigerian leaders should bury your heads in shame.

Because?

Alpharey:
Nigeria lost Bakasi... Forever. You think you are doing Igbos.... 🤣🤣

And so?

ariesbull:
such as the wwy yoruba has forever lost Ilorin,Offa etc to Fulani

They can't even be an Oba there

So, despite your chest-beating that "Never fight Igbos, you will lose your land forever", Igbos did not win the war and they lost land forever?

ariesbull:
Loose which war

Even when the Nigeria fought with Igbo they agreed on terms NO VICTOR NO VANQUISHED


yet yoruuba can't perform ordinary Isese festival in Ilorin ...why

It is lost with the winds


Such a shame

This mugu is always trying to deflect and distract when cornered and his points are disproved.

So, despite your chest-beating that "Never fight Igbos, you will lose your land forever", Igbos did not win the war and they lost land forever?

"Group Economics" graduate.

ariesbull:
and we pluck the pasture and send the fruits back home

That's my joy

SW is London to you. You are blessed.

ariesbull:
this one pain am wella

E pains me that Igbo men's hope and greener pasture is found in SW?

ariesbull:
ask your mama ...she was born then

After you

So, despite your chest-beating that "Never fight Igbos, you will lose your land forever", Igbos did not win the war and they lost land forever?

Chest-beating professionals!

ariesbull:
the same way they packed yoruba as slaves via badagry by awori and egun tribes

Oh, you are deflecting?

I thought you were saying Igbos were a fighting and dominant tribe?

Just another chest-beating?

ariesbull:
very backward people

With all the lies you blow about Ogun state and IGR we gave seen the backwardness

It is a lie that Ogun state has 4 times the IGR of Anambra and more than the whole SE combined?

Are you really this mentally-ill?

ariesbull:
yet those smaller tribes all ariud igbo land lost their territory to igbo in fight

Half of Abia state from Aba are gotten through conquests


Igbo no dey make noise ! You took Igbo as slaves yet na Una dey loose Una land ....

Abi you no get sense ! Oyibo no fit colonise Igbo na these small minority tribes dey take Igbo as slaves

Abi u no dey see as Igbo dey give Yoruba nightmare for their own Lagos ...imagine small tribes taking Igbo as slaves ...lol

Yet Igbo no loose one inch of their land rather they gained


Your mumu too much

So how were Igbos packed as slaves through minority tribes ports?

ariesbull:
I warn you ... Any fight you bring to Igbo territory and you loose ! That land is lost forever

Beer that in mind so....be careful

You mean like after Biafra war? Which territory was gained? Which was lost?

ariesbull:
Okay let's forget OTEDOLA...dude has nothing to give to his people let's get that fact

Okay show us one world-class hospital any of your big men built for his village or his people free


Una no dey shame

Everything you guys are backwards

You think this is your "Group Economics" class at your state poly?

ariesbull:
And Ilorin lost almost 300 yrs ago couldn't get it back nor install a king

I will advise...never fight Igbo in Lagos ...the land you will lose will be lost forever

But they (smaller tribes) packed Igbos significantly as slaves to ship to the Americas.

ariesbull:
show us a simple clinic your OTEDOLA built for his people to help and assist them from the effects of agbo


Other tribes are laughing at you people...your backwardness is glaring....Una no dey shame

ariesbull:
group economics is what made Igbo to develop their lands and ensure that the economics of a group is well protected as we can see Igbo billionaire voting hospitals in villages making the money that will be spent for Medicare outside to be in Igbo land


Abeg show me one HOSPITAL THAT OTEDOLA BUILT or BABABLUE for his village


Una no dey shame!


Mugu do you know that this is a hospital in Anambra built by an Igbo man in his village


Show me one that was built in Yoruba land


Even the best hospital in Lagos is even owned by igbos the Eko Hospital (Enebeli , an Igbo land, Obiora an Igbo man and Kuku)


See Igbo hospital in Anambra village

Low IQ statements.

ariesbull:
we have lots of wars in our history but today we are peace loving people but don't push us to war...cos any Territory we win in war we will never give it back again


Be warned!

Your chest-beating is very high, your IQ is very low.

How many peoples/tribes do not have lots of wars in our history?

You see what happens to your critical thinking abilities when you go and study "Group Economics" at a state poly?

You just want to beat chest that you are a gangster and warrior tribe?

ariesbull:
Before Igbo arrival in the Aro territory, a group of proto Ibibio migrated to the area and established the Ibom Kingdom during the Bantu expansion. This proto Ibibio group originally came from Usak Edet (Isanguele), a segment of the Ejagham in present-day Southern Cameroon. The Eze Agwu clan from Abiriba, initiated Igbo migration into the region around the mid-17th century. The Ibibio clan welcomed all until some started rebelling against the ruling house. The Eze Awgu group who lead the rebellion against the ruling family aligned with several outside forces like the Priest Nnachi from the Edda group near Afikpo, was called by their king Awgu Inobia (Eze Agwu) for help. When he arrived, Nnachi and Eze Agwu allied with prince Akakpokpo Okon of the Ibibio kingdom of Ibom Kingdom. Akakpokpo Okon was the son of a marriage between an Igbo woman of the Eze Agwu clan and the King Obong Okon Ita in an attempt of a peace treaty for a war that have been fought between the Igbo subgroup and Ibibio. The Eze Agwu/Nnachi faction decided to help Akakpokpo attempt to overthrow his brother king Akpan Okon.


Aro Confederacy, and its far reaching Influence


The coup was heavily resisted which called for even more help. Through Nnachi, an Eastern Cross river group answered the call for help. They were known as the Akpa who were living at today Akwa Akpa before the arrival of the Efik people in that region. These warriors and traders, may have had European guns which were new to the territory. Being the Igbo allies, the Akpas were led by the royal Nnubi family. Osim and Akuma Nnubi led Akpa soldiers to help fight against the ruling household. Together with Igbo forces and rebels, they fought against the Ibom Kingdom forces (1690). During the final battles, Osim Nnubi was slain in Oror city state making it the capital of Arochukwu. At the end of the war, Osim and Akakpokpo were dead. In order to honor Osim's legacy, his brother Akuma was crowned the first EzeAro (king). After his death, Nnachi's descendants took the throne starting with his first son Oke Nnachi. The Arochukwu kingdom, was founded

400 years ago?

ariesbull:
As the Igala already lived in the area with the Orri they sought friendship with the Ezza and gave them land for farming. However, betrayed by the Ezza whose true intent was expansion and to address their ongoing land scarcity. It led to a conflict between the two groups, resulting in the Igala's defeat and expulsion from their occupied territory which the Ezza then took control of. The Agba community, located in Ebo Ndiagu, Ochuhu Agba, and Orie Agba Elu, faced defeat as the Ezza's territory expanded. Some rallied, but despite putting up a spirited but brief defense, the Agba were compelled to retreat southwards, leaving their abandoned lands to be later settled by Umunwagu and Ikwuate (Idembia). Seeking safety and security, the Agba people sought refuge in Ishielu Division, departing from their original mainland settlements. The Ezza met them again in 1850 and again conquered and displaced the remnants, naming the new territory Ezzagu.

Almost 200 years ago?

ariesbull:
During the early 19th century, the Eastern Igbo subgroups located in Ebonyi State underwent a significant migration towards the Cross River areas, this in turn manifested in boundary disputes between several Eastern Igbo groups with her neighbours such as Ikwo-Nsobo and Osopo of Cross River State, Izzi – Osopo and Yala of Cross River State and Mgbo-Igala of Benue State. A similar migration skirmish towards Abia State in the 17th century established the Aro Confederacy. As the Ezza, Izzi, Ikwo subgroups moved northward, all who are said to descend from siblings whose patriarch hailed from Afikpo, the Ezza ecountered the indigenous Orri people and protected them from extinction in exchange for farming rights. The Ikwo people encountered the Okum and annihilated then assimilated the rest of them, the Okum do not exist as an identifiable group anymore but there is archeological and cultural proof of their existence, as there are non-Igbo dances and masquerades in modern Ikwo culture. The southern Ikwo displaced the indigenous Adadama group far to modern Cross River State.

300 years ago?

ariesbull:
Nsukka is the most notable Igbo subgroup to be involved in these wars as the Igala people conquered and installed priest kings to govern the district for almost a century. The Nsukka people have continuously inhabited northern Igboland since the 3rd millennium BCE as shown through archeological continuity and glottochrony. They are considered to be one of the first Igbo subgroups by historian and archeologist Edwin Eme Okafor. During the period of the Igbo-Igala Wars, marked by a scarcity of labor and insecurity resulting from slave raiding and the Nsukka-Igala conflicts, notable changes occurred in the iron smelting practices of the Nsukka people. Due to urgency, some iron smelters resorted to using wood directly in their smelting process, bypassing the usual practice of burning it to produce charcoal. This adaptation in smelting techniques demonstrates the impact of the war on the traditional methods employed by the Nsukka community, as they incorporated wood into their process to sustain their iron production amidst the challenging conditions.[3] The conflicts started with the arrival of a figure named Onọjọ Ogboni whose background is surrounded in mystery. One of the 18th century conflicts was the Battle of Nsukka in 1794, which resulted in a Nsukka military victory, but with significant losses including the Eze's eldest son, and three of his wives. The battle was witnessed by Sailor, Joseph B. Hawkins.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo%E2%80%93Igala_wars

So, in your chest-beating head of Igbos "fight", you were pointing to and digging out examples 200 years ago?

ariesbull:
Lol

You don't know that Igbo fought Igala to take over Nsukka and Enugu parts

Half of Abia state was gotten from wars ....that's why in Abriba till date they do war dance


Arochukwu was gotten from wars


Ebonyi the Ikwo axis was gotten from wars



Igbo dey fight for lands like mad


Even till today they are fighting around Ebonyi Cross River for lands


Go and read history I am not here to spoon feed you


Yoruba get luck say dem.no be Igbo neighbour shaaaaaaaa

Put the years on these without any "Group Economics".

Oya, sharp sharp!

KingOfAmebo:
FreeStuffsNG left the group chat.

Someone like FreeStuffsNG should atleast for once in their life travel out of their state and see how other states are developing not bragging on nairaland that it is only Lagos that is developing while other states are deserts.

I am Yoruba and based in Lagos, I have traveled to 11 states in different parts of Nigeria so I know what I am talking about.

People like that show how weak mental health facilities are in Nigeria.

ariesbull:
abeg show us

Okay this is Iwoye Ketu and a village is Ogun with their hIgh IGR!


Una go dey lie to unaseff to feel good...OTEDOLA no fit build small hospital for three 14th century Yoruba villages

Una no dey shame ! Every Yoruba man na Lagosian even Una Babablue


Shameless lots

Your IQ is very low with this your "Group Economics" random selection of measures of wealth.