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[quote author=Nuzo']Well, just like Bakare stated a few days ago.
PDP and presidency are busy pardoning rogues while the opposition are busy accepting rogues.

This whole thing is a mess![/quote]An incorrect analogy to make. The most controversial "rogue" Mr.President pardoned, or planned to pardon in this case, are convicted felons. The "rogues" you say the APC have accepted are , factually, rogues in your own mind in the sense that nothing is proven against them by a competent Court of law. You should get that fundamental difference correct.

licensed2k: I won't be surprised if GEJ decide to pardon Osama bn Laden....yap he's dead....buh don't ever underestimate Jonathan Stupidity.

Well, Ali Baba (GEJ) needs his '40 thieves' for 2015 so Nigeria should prepare to see more 'recycled' and 'resurrected' distasteful characters between now and the PDP Primaries. GEJ has always been a desperate character but "very desperate times calls for very desperate measures" will be Mr. President's thinking. It is going to be interesting to watch the mother of all corruption that will engulf Nigeria before the PDP Primaries. Another round of open scamming like the fuel subsidy con.

shymexx: I'm just tired of reading about deaths in Nigeria every day... Since, this man can't protect Nigerians in Nigeria - why can't he just do the most honourable thing and resign He needs to let anyone who can tackle the boko haramites take charge for now because if this menace isn't stopped - the next 5-10 generations of Nigerians will will never forgive this generation... We've not forgiven the generation who lead the country to a civil war and the events that happened before, during, and after the civil war still governs the suspicions all the ethnic entities in Nigeria have against one another.... As we march towards another inevitable war - something needs to be done asap to save the country and innocent people's lives...

I don't even care if the person who takes over from him is from Somalia, or Nibiru - we just need peace in that country... And enough of the South South nonsense... If it's about their oil - let them take their oil and shove it in their ar.ses, for phu.ck sake... At the end of the day, the innocent people who're being killed everyday like animals don't benefit anything from the oil..

Tell that fedora hat wearing president to resign, for phu.ck sake!!

Jonathan, and any other grossly inept leader for that matter, will resign the minute Nigerians, for one reason or another, stop defending and celebrating crass leadership mediocrity.

Going by standards those in saner climes would judge with, GEJ is failing spectacular. Nigerians are dying while the entire world watches the dithering of a man who confessed to knowing the sponsors of terror yet has never moved against even one. The only political figure charged with abetting terrorism (Ndume) is swaggering around with bail conditions similar to that of someone who committed N2,000.00 fraud. He says Boko Haram has infiltrated every level of his government yet real leaders worldwide will wonder what is wrong with him since these folks continue to thrive wherever they are to undermine the efforts against terrorism from within the government. Azazi says Boko Haram is the PDP and he is removed by GEJ. The list is too long demonstrating the gross incompetence and indifference of this President.

The fact that he continues to enjoy nauseatingly sycophantic support here shows you how aberrant Nigeria is. Uniquely many things, to include the direct efforts of the man himself, conspires to make GEJ a very divisive President. The loss of lives is unacceptable but some will never accept that because of a devotion to mediocrity

The thread title is different to that of the supporting article but the part in bold correctly justifies the choice of thread title.

http://sunnewsonline.com/new/cover/more-secrets-in-ex-bayelsa-govs-pardon/

More secrets in ex-Bayelsa governor’s pardon
Our Reporter March 23, 2013 31 Comments »

By ADE ALADE
Worried by hostile reactions from some Nigerians and the United States Government over state pardon granted former Bayelsa State Governor, Chief Diepreye Alamieyeseigha, among other VIPs, President Goodluck Jonathan has turned to European countries to seek for their understanding over the controversial decision.
Saturday Sun gathered that the meeting, where President Jonathan pleaded with European Union (EU) governments, was held at the Presidential Villa last Monday, with EU ambassadors in Nigeria in attendance.

Reliable sources told Saturday Sun: “The meeting was urgently called by the president to forestall possible negative reactions from EC (European countries), some of who are natural allies of the US on global issues, following the US public condemnations and threats of sanctions against the Nigerian government over the state pardon granted Alamieyeseigha and others.
There have been widespread local and international condemnations of the pardon granted Alamieyeseigha and former CEO of Bank of the North, Alhaji Shettima Bulama by President Jonathan through the National Council of States. While Nigerians cried blue murder, the U.S embassy in Nigeria, in a tweet on Friday last week, said it was “deeply disappointed” over the pardon.

Also, a second tweet from the embassy simply said: “We see this as a setback in the fight against corruption.”
This led to a diplomatic row, as the Nigerian Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a statement saying it was urgently calling James P. McAnulty, the U.S. deputy chief of mission, for a meeting while it called the U.S. remarks “undue interference and meddlesomeness,” since the president had followed the provision of the Nigerian constitution granting him the power to issue pardons.
“The ministry finally expressed the hope that the embassy of the United States of America would henceforth desist from making unwarranted comments on Nigeria’s internal affairs, which are capable of undermining the friendly relations that exist between them,” the statement said.

In Washington, State Department spokeswoman, Victoria Nuland said the “recent pardons of corrupt officials by the Nigerian government” are a setback for the U.S. support to strengthen the rule of law in Nigeria, “which is very important for the future of the country.”
She hinted that the pardons could have repercussions on U.S. assistance programmes. “We have made clear to the Nigerians that this puts a question mark on the kinds of work that we’ve been trying to do with them,” she said.
No sanctions or punitive measures have been taken, she said, “but we’re continuing to look at what’s appropriate.”
Sensing that some equally influential European countries, especially the United Kingdom, Germany, France and others, may toe the line of the US government on the issue, the president moved swiftly to hold the secret meeting with the ambassadors on Monday night, in a bid to keep the parley and its details away from public knowledge.

One of the diplomats at the meeting however, told Saturday Sun: “The meeting was called by the Nigerian president mainly to plead with the EU ambassadors to convince our home governments to show understanding over the pardon granted some convicted leaders. President Jonathan was humble enough to plead for understanding in case his decision has affected the relationship between Nigeria and the EC.
“We sought clarifications and his government’s commitment to the Nigerian anti-corruption war because the EU is the largest foreign donor to the work of the anti-graft agencies and the judiciary in Nigeria, and he gave assurances, citing some recent government actions to buttress his commitment. We only assured him that we would convey his message to our home governments where final decisions are taken on what may be our individual or collective response on such issues.

[b]Meanwhile, it has also been revealed that former Deputy National Chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, Chief Olabode George, who was convicted and sentenced to two and a half years imprisonment in 2009 for contract fraud, was on the initial list prepared for state pardon by the Attorney General of the Federation and Minister of Justice, Mr. Mohammed Bello Adoke.
A presidential aide, who confirmed this, said it took the intervention of several persons within the president’s kitchen cabinet before George’s name was removed from the final list presented to the National Council of States for approval.
“We have to remind the AGF that Bode George has a pending case against his conviction at the Supreme Court and the court should be allowed to decide it before any help can be offered through state pardon.
That was the superior argument that removed his (George’s) name from the list otherwise the backlash effect would have been more than what we are trying to contend with at the moment,” the source explained.[/b]
When Saturday Sun sought reaction of the Federal Government on the meeting with EU ambassadors, Foreign Affairs Minister, Mr. Olugnenga Ashiru, said no such parley took place.
“There was nothing like that, no meeting. We have no problem diplomatically with any country or group,” he said.

Clerverly: Please MOD, move this thread to front page let nairalanders share their experience.

What is there to share if not predictable bad news?

dbride: His attack dogs and defence tigers are kind of mute. Their man is not making their job easy at all, defending the indefensible.

We will soon see the PDP, under GEJ, fielding militant war lords as gubernatorial candidate. They will tell you that these men becoming Governors is the non-negotiable choice they had to make to keep oil flowing. I am really ashamed of Nigeria currently. A nation where mediocrity is defended, celebrated and empowered.

dbride: Gbawe, I truly weep for this nation. What a president and how low can we go.

My dear fellow, if not for the united international condemnation this has attracted the ultra-callous GEJ would not even be bothered to offer excuses. Him, Okupe, Abati, Omokri et al would simply call critics "dumb" or "yesterdays men" because that is the level of disdain they have for Nigerians who are, essentially, their boss. Now the desperate lies, aimed at the international community, are flying around to attempt the laundering of an impossibly dirty image.

Sincere 9gerian: I give to you for atleast attempting to challenge the facts on this thread. You'v also learnt that it doesn't pay to chase shadows by attacking usernames. You'r learning fast indeed.

However, you should also learn to speak for yourself and let those who read your post arrive at their conclusions. I speak for myself on any issue.

My man, don't be deceived by my constant lack of courtesy to what you post here. I do it to you and others because that is what you do too directly plus encourage when you go around attacking many happy and fulfilled stakeholders in the Nigerian project as "haters". I actually don't dislike you. The reason for this is that my path that led to where I am today has made me understand that it is always best, either way, to know an individual stands for something. Those who are very dangerous, treacherous and worthless in every sense are the characters who are always "neutral" in the "middle" and want to be all things to all men.

Whatever motivates you, I know where you stand. Anyone who has truly lived life , with all its trials and tribulations, and come out on top will know this is a good thing. I.e knowing where people stand because they willingly reveal this. Nonetheless, this does not change the fact that GEJ is hideously corrupt and that far too many examples bear this out for you to even hope this your thread is anything but dead on arrival.

GEJ is openly mocked, even beyond Nigeria, as a very corrupt President. You do know that the USA has said the GEJ Government is not serious about fighting corruption? You will also not have missed the demand of David Cameron for the GEJ government to account for the trillions received in income in the past years? Man mi, give it up. You should, for efficacy, focus on what you think GEJ does well instead of trying to change perceptions about areas highlighting his abysmal failings. That will only attract ridicule to your person.

@OP.

Look, even when one tries very hard to take you seriously, your open penchant for dishonesty and your recidivist zeal for sycophancy is nauseating. Corruption is at its peak under GEJ and no sensible person will indulge in your shameless cat and mouse game of open self-deceit. Are you aware that one of the greatest act of corruption in Nigeria's current democratic history (1999 to 2013) was committed with brazen "don't give a damn" bravado by your messiah GEJ and his corrupt 'tool' Allison-Madueke? I.e the grotesque fuel subsidy scam?

Please tell us the two individuals who head the only two authorities (FG and NNPC) able to issues marketers licence to fuel importers in Nigeria. Under these two, and blatantly significant of a desperate level of immorality and crookedness, Marketers licence were literally handed out to many road side mechanics with no capacity or expertise to engage in the fuel importation sector. This was deliberate so you cannot even try and spin the fact that the fuel subsidy scam would never have happened without the complicity of GEJ and Allison-Madueke. Open and brazen complicity for that matter as well same way both crooked and irredeemably corrupt individual rubbished the Ribadu petroleum task force efforts shamefully before the entire world.

The fuel subsidy scam is only one example of many. You can therefore never convince anyone, regardless of your spin and half-truth, that such a disciple of grand, large scale corruption is fighting it. It is the open frolicking with corruption Nigerians can see and the abetting of graft that has led to Jonathan's spectacular loss of credibility and goodwill. In short, your messiah blew it for himself. The yansh of the foul is now exposed before the whole world so all this shameless sycophancy, trying to market a rotten and bad product, is a waste of your own time more than anything else. You are not changing the perception of GEJ and his government with the crude crap you put up here daily. It is almost demented for a man to pretend to see one thing while the entire world sees different. I hope you appreciate, in that context, how some view you here.

Don't mind him. As if plans by the Presidency to find ways of 'rehabilitating' Alamieyeseigha and officially bring him back into politics is anything new. What people don't want to accept is that GEJ is crudely greedy and crudely transparent as one of the 'throwback' politicians who will do outrageous things simply because they don't have the sophistication to accept the finer and more desirable aspects of developmental politics. Have we not seen Patience Jonathan become an undeserving Permanent secretary? Have we not seen maritime security contract awarded to former militant when such that, for any serious nation, must never leave the domain of the national security maritime force i.e the Navy? How many other blatant acts of crony empowerment do folks need listed before they accept the obvious? If this happens, then it is not anything out of character for GEJ and his crudely opportunistic style of politics. That is my point.

Barring any last minute change in plans, President Goodluck Jonathan will today request the National Council of State to ratify a presidential pardon for the disgraced former governor of Bayelsa State, Diepreye Alamieyeseigha. A presidency source

Read more http://trends.com.ng/ex-convict-alamieyeseigha-may-get-presidential-pardon-today/

FreeGlobe: ^
so what are you saying in essense Gbawe. You sound very incoherent. You should concentrate on selling the ACn/OPC/APC propaganda you were employed for.

You are not only pathetically bigoted, you are illiterate also. Hardly worth the effort.

AjanleKoko: The weird thing is, nobody even said anything about Yoruba victimization.
But the speed at which the GEJ apologists and tribal chumps jumped out of their skin was alarming. I usually ignore such idiotic comments, but I just could not let these ones go like that.

Anyways, like you said, it is Nigeria's loss. Some people are busy commenting about how younger men should be allowed. Is it pounded yam they are eating there?

Everything has an ethnic angle for some folks here. Get used to it bro. These vermins have issues. They are here seeking vengeance and attrition for some unfinished war, still in their head, they must continue fighting against others. It is obvious, if Nigeria is not a nation with serious mental cases parading themselves as 'citizens', that Demuren is not someone anyone can mock. Throughout the World achievers are respected.

I am currently in West Africa and tend to visit at least 4-5 Nations while there. It is only in Nigeria I see this garbage and aberrant behaviour constantly. Nigerians, as obtains everywhere else, and regardless of our differences, should all be able to admit that the Nnajis, Demurens, Falana, Ribadus et al deserve respect. Sadly not the case with Nigeria and this is what marks out Nigeria as a very troubled Nation having a very long way to go in my opinion.

In the USA, even a racist talking about Alli/Michael Jackson would say "that coon could box/sing". He will say everything racist yet will not deny Alli's/Jackson's special talents and achievement. Come to Nigeria and see a new level of bigotry where some will disrespectfully deny the well-documented achievement and talent/ability of others because of a fearsome level of hatred that means they cannot even give credit where due. Demuren, regardless of the circumstances linked to his sacking, deserves respect for what he has achieved professionally and for his nation. We know some are simply incapable of according him this respect because of bigotry. Sad way to be really.

GEJ does not "give a damn" how reprehensible and senseless his actions appear to the world. He is very crude and unsophisticated in that regard and this development does not surprise me at all. We will see more like it because if GEJ realises that the game is up, despite all the PDP's bravado, then, because he is a 'throwback', we will see him doing what African leaders did in the past. I.e last minute looting, selling of State assets to cronies and empowering minions, pals and benefactors. We even saw OBJ doing this because he is a 'throwback' Dinosaur also. Predictable really but Nigeria deserves this for deciding they wanted an abjectly poor mediocrity as President while other African Countries are now firmly embracing the principles of empowering the very best their Nation has to offer.

AjanleKoko: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Demuren

When you're done reading that, produce five names that even come close to him in terms of credentials and industry experience, who are still in service.

It really does not surprise me those who are discrediting the man and talking inanely of how he has been in the Aviation sector for a long time. Those characters come with no element at all of giving credit where due. All they know to do is celebrate their ignorance and lack of respect for others in public. Everything is tainted with their parochial and bigoted outlook.

Demuren is a well-respected and highly regarded expert in the African Aviation sector. He will easily find suitors for his services elsewhere. Serious African Countries are now less rigid recruiting non-indigenes, with highly sought after specialist knowledge/skill, to assist them. They are reforming their Country with competent hands while Nigeria endure with and promote mediocrity. No big deal to Demuren anyway. It is Nigeria's loss. The bigots laughing at the 'downfall' of Demuren only laugh at themselves. The man will move on very easily and very well. Can you ever move on?

Notable Achievements



Dr. Demuren (left) receiving the 2011 IATA African Aviation "Personality of the Year" Award from IATA President John Tyler in Morocco in Nov 2011.
• 2011 IATA African Aviation "Personality of the Year" – Nov 2011[12]
• 2010 Flight Safety Foundation "Laura Taber Barbour Air Safety Award" - Nov 2010[13]
• 1st African to be elected President of ICAO General Assembly - Sept 2010[10]
• Obtained U.S. FAA Category 1 Certification for Nigeria (6th African Country) - Aug 2010[8]
• Led Nigeria to successfully complete the ICAO Universal Safety Audit - 2006, 2008 & 2010[2]
• Led Nigeria to successful completion of the Aviation Security Audit of Murtala Mohammed International Airport and Nnamdi Azikwe International Airport by the United States of American Transportation Security Administration (TSA) - 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010[2]
• Fellow of the Royal Aeronautical Society – 2008[14]
• Fellow of Nigeria Academy of Engineering – 2008[15]
• Fellow of the Chartered Engineers (UK)[15]
• 2008 Thisday Awards "Regulator of the Year" - 2008[16]


Dr. Demuren (left) with TSA Assistant Administrator, John Halinski (right), after signing a US/Nigeria Security Pact at the TSA Headquarters in Arlington, Virginia in June 2011
• Launched the IATA E-ticket / Billing and Settlement Plan (BSP) regime which revolutionized the Air travel industry in Nigeria – 2008[15]
• Strived for the rapid passage of the Nigerian Civil Aviation Autonomy Bill into Law - 2006[2]
• Implementing the Cape Town Convention replacing Old-Age Aircrafts in Nigeria - 2006[17]
• Re-established confidence in the Nigerian traveling public and international community after the tragic Air disasters of 2005[2]
• Introduced a new Civil Aviation Safety Regulations that ensured Safety Oversight of all aviation activities in Nigeria in compliance ICAO Standards and Recommended Practices (SARPs).[2]
• Laid the foundation of the National Civil Aviation Policy for Nigeria[2]
• Longest serving Director General of Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) – Dec 2005 to Present[1]
• 1st and only African Member in the Board of Governors of Flight Safety Foundation – 2003 to Present[2][5]
• President, Flight Safety Foundation (FSF) West Africa – 2003 to Present[2][5]
• Co-Founder of Afrijet Airlines (1998)[2]

Why are you Yorubas working yourselves up with these ignorant, immature and hateful creatures? Do we not have many examples of their paranoid delusion and unthinking hatred of others that means they are forever obsessed with proclaiming themselves innocent while insisting only others steal, defraud, commit crime and are corrupt? Even in the face of glaring evidence showing all crimes are committed by all ethnic groups, and will continue to be so if circumstances makes that amenable, we still hear garbage and deluded rants totally incongruous with the reality n the ground.

When the fuel subsidy scam saga broke, without waiting for names, they began gleefully dancing around on this same forum shouting that we will soon realise the Yorubas are stealing the nation blind. Lo and behold, when names of suspects were announced, there was a very 'healthy' amount of suspected "thieves" from their neck of the wood. You guys should ignore these rabble-rousers. Their modus operandi is obvious. Many of them just come here to carry on some battle they feel they must win against Yorubas by all means.

AnitaMandy: If it's true then I think APC are not fit to lead. They couldn't secure their name how then do they propose to secure the country. So if I decide to go to INEC now and steal this their new name They would change from ADC yet again. Maybe this time they would adopt ALC - African Labour Congress. lol

Leadership efficacy , or lack thereof, is now determined with issues concerning a logo? You are all the same set of folks who quickly use the excuse you voted for the individual, GEJ, and not his Party when reminded of the 14 year evil of the PDP. Now, rather than consistently apply the same principle and look at the many,many, many proven leaders the APC is home to, you are happy to simply write them off over a Logo imbroglio. Why not simply confess your motivation instead of making statements that is obviously very unobjective, logically inane and lacks cogent sense? A bit like saying someone who made one spelling error cannot write properly while you ignore the many award he has won showing he has writing skills superior to virtually all others.

take dat: Bro, even this trickery and treachery of theirs won't work. The other "Faceless" party is yet to be registered, the threat coming from the opposition is just to put INEC on its toes. Apart from PDP members getting jittery, those other folks who are against the merger are blinded and motivated by clannish sentiments/resentment and animosity, they are not bothered if we truly run a true democracy or not. To them PDP's do or die and wuruwuru politics is fair!

Totally correct. From every single tread to the next, it is the same pathetic show of open bigotry and nauseating clannishness. The sad thing is that no one is even preventing them from fully pitching their tent with the PDP and working for the Party. Yet, all attention is focused on the APC because of the paralytic and myopic fear these bigots and losers entertain that a victory for the APC is a victory for Yorubas and Hausa/Fulanis.

GEJ will be booted out in 2015 because Nigeria has to make the progress others are experiencing. It is not an ethnic battle even if some have been indoctrinated and damaged to the point they are incapable of accepting this. In fact, GEJ may not even get the PDP ticket despite all his gra-gra so anyone looking up to him as the 'local champion' helping them fight "yarobus" and "aboki" should begin to prepare for massive disappointment.

Katsumoto: @Gbawe

The Northerner that Fashola should serve as vice to is Buhari; in my opinion. ACN is the biggest party in that merger and Tinubu should, would have a voice in who gets both the Presidency and VP slot.

We are on the same page completely . We know some people are condemned to never see the politics of things with their sentimental, bigoted and myopic take on everything. Imagine I mocked you when you had the vision to save up and buy a car. Now I not only want to tell you how to drive your car but insist on the destination you must drive it to as well. What manner of unreasonable minds are some cursed with that they can never believe in 'fair is fair' and "give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar"?

What is sure is that this is still politics where it is all about what stakeholders bring to the table even if some usurpers now want to talk as if they should be promoted straight to the top of the pile. Let everyone get in the ring and fight for the position they want. The Tinubus and Buharis of the world have the right to play umpire because of what they bring and no one can now be belittling their worth. Like it or not, they are the leaders of the Party. Hate their ethnic group or not, you must still fall under their leadership or get lost. No long thing.

Buhari = massive votes in the North while Tinubu and Fashola can deliver the SW if they work hard at it. Let some attention-seekers spare us their noise. Those who want what is best for Nigeria, whatever their ethnic group, should get behind the APC , stop any attention-seeking histrionics, and accept the choice of the Party or simply go elsewhere instead of trying to now come and dictate to those who abided with the idea of merging and pushed things to where they are today.

PapaBrowne: Definition of Hypocrisy
Hypocrisy is the state of promoting or trying to enforce standards, attitudes, lifestyles, virtues, beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually hold.[1]

Why not then shut up on everything happening in Abuja with the FG and wait till 2015 when you would be opportuned to utilize your SINGLE VOTE. Why do you come on Nairaland to talk about the PDP and its actions. Why not simply accept the limitations of your position in life with regards to the activities of the PDP. If you wanted to have a say on the activities of the FG & PDP, why not be on the right side of the fence and stop shouting vacuously, judgementally and bigotedly on nairaland as though a mai guard in Aso rock would hear you out and and give your crumbs from his table!


You see, the consequences of your hypocrisy is on you, not on the people you think are your foes. Hypocrisy and bias blinds you out completely of making strategic decisions. A person deviod of hypocrisy would read the comments here with the understanding that every commentator is a potential APC voter and their opinions reflect a cross section of Nigerians. If I want their vote, I would align my strategy to appeal to them or I would work at convincing them to see positive in my actions.

I do sympathise with you though, cause the actions I've seen the APC take, would definitely keep Jonathan in power till 2019, and I feel bad because that means you would be bitter for another 6 years. Its hard being you bro. I don't envy your position right now especially when I know that Tinubu might just disappoint you again by switching his vote to Jonathan at the last minute!!

Look you silly clown and clannish dolt, the FG is the federal government of Nigeria. I am a Nigerian and can take the federal governing body, and the President that heads it, to task any time and anyday. I know clannish twerps like you think GEJ is more your President than he is to others but that shows what bush men and cave dwellers you silly folks are.

If we are talking hypocrisy, it is about folks like you who never had a decent word to say about the ACN, Tinubu,Buhari and CPC only to now be insisting unreasonably, for example, Fashola be dropped for Rochas as VP. What could be more bigoted than that? Anyone politically sophisticated will realise things are still entirely political and that making sentimental and unreasonable demands , after the political efforts of others you mocked has become productive, is dishonest, immoral, unprincipled, outlandish and ludicrous.

Tinubu is the biggest stakeholder in the APC. It will not be too much, from a political perspective and in view of what he brings to the table, for the man to rightly demand his choice is considered for the VP position. Let us not fool ourselves. As I am not on the same level as a clannish cretin and limited thinker like you is the same way efforts and political relevance differ from stakeholder to stakeholders. What is the height of hypocrisy is for it to be those who curse Tinubu, Buhari, Yorubas, Hausa/Fulani, ACN, CPC daily to be the ones making the most unreasonable demand simply because of ethnic hankering and bigoted lack of fairness. From a purely political perspective and for the work the ACN has done and the sacrifice it has made, they can meritoriously demand that Fashola be VP. Simple as that. It is still about permanent interests in politics and not sentiments or bigoted myopia. Your sort lack enduring principles so I expect issues to remain above your thick head. Now run along and go and play monopoly.

Katsumoto: Am with you now. I was too lazy to read all the comments.

My man, go to the first few pages and it is just ugly. It makes one ask "are these immature and over-sentimental people for real"? Spitting bile and vitriol over legitimate and freewill choices others worked hard to be in a position to make while they busied themselves insulting everything and everyone ? Seems rather rich, deluded and even schizophrenic to me.

The same fools who shouted Yoorubu and Aboki Party are now hurling insults rather than simply recognise that those who put in the hard-work to deliver the APC can field whoever stakeholders settle on. Some folks are just twisted and confused to the extent they do not appreciate they are mocking themselves and their own indolence/lack of political sophistication and awareness.

Katsumoto: You are correct in your assessment, however, folks are simply commenting on the permutations that are likely to win the election for any party. Some of those commenting are likely to vote in 2015 and what you read here are their private thoughts as to how they will likely vote. Think of it as some sort of survey. If the posts on this thread is some sort of voting sample which may be representative of the electorate in 2015, then it would be unwise to dismiss it. My comments relate only to independents and not PDP sympathizers/card members.

I have no issue with folks who are specifically doing that because I do it too and it is obvious when poster mull permutations speculatively and amiably. I am talking to those who have commented inanely as seen below:

Austinsmat wrote:

must north produce president why not fashola be president north vice it seem truly s.w is a political slave to north

Lastpope wrote:

Isn't it so shameful to hear that in 2013, 53 years after independence, a set of idiotas up north are sitting down to look for a vice presidential candidate having concluded that they will produce the president and some other set of idiotas down south are actually waiting to be chosen to do the yes-man hatchet job.

You and I know what is responsible for the silly comments above, and many similar ones here, that leads some to foolishly hurl insult an entire ethnic group, over political issues linked to deliberate strategising others have never showed an interest in utilising. It is their own ignorance and bigotry being exposed since the APC owe their ilk nothing regarding Party stakeholders choice for Presidential candidate.

When SW Politicians, like Tinubu and Fayemi, are putting in the hard-work and deliberate effort to deliver political target, lazy layabouts, with nil vision and zero appreciation of what it takes to get involved and build something worthwhile, busy themselves with calling others name. I mean, who would call deliberate and visionary strategising, they should be learning from, "being a slave" if not anarchaic losers who don't understand the fundamental need to plan in life? It is those clowns I am talking to.

All this thread shows is that this forum does not have many who have built valuable things or led anything worthwhile. The APC owes no one nothing and only those with a usurpation mentality, preventing them from discerning the basics of procedural fairness, will shout "why a Northerner".

The only option for the voting public is to reject candidates Parties present through the ballot box not dictatorially insist on who Parties must field/not field. APC stakeholders will determine who their ticket will go to. If some of us had wanted the right to speak vehemently, then perhaps we should have joined the political process , like all those we cowardly insult daily, so that we too have a voice at this non-public Stage of things. Anybody who has not done that should shut up, understand the limitations of their position and accept the entitlement of others to free choice. Worldwide, political Parties chose their leaders freely without interference from anyone. It is in Nigeria we are not politically sophisticated enough to accept this

The option for mature folks, leaders, solution providers and critical thinkers is to simply vote against the APC, if you don't approve of their choice, or form your own Party. To insinuate the APC is wrong to go with a Northern candidate is the heights of intolerance, stupidity and the rank unfairness afflicting the minds of some. Let us even assume the APC was formed to return power to the North, so what? Is this a crime considering , unlike others, they are going about it the right way via deliberately building politically useful structures?

Why do the lazy loudmouths against this not form their Party ages ago to counter this and put in the daily grind the likes of Tinubu, Buhari et al have? What gives any of us the right to tell these people what to do with their Party? We have our vote. We should recognise our limit and stop encroaching on things outside our jurisdiction. Simply use your vote as you see fit. It is very important for us to accept the limitations of our positions in life. If anyone had wanted a say in the candidates Parties field, then they should be on the right side of the fence to begin with and not shouting vacuously, judgementally and bigotedly from the wrong side of it.

When the PDP bragged it would "rule" for 60 years did anyone think they were seeking to remain in power by performing. This is only the beginning because a highly dictatorial, cluelessly power hungry President will do anything, however openly undemocratic, to remain in Aso Rock. The sad news for GEJ is that things are changing even for Nigeria that is one of the nations most resistive to change in the world. Simply trying to cheat, bully and intimidate everyone into submission won't work.

Eko Ile: All of a sudden, all the cowards are claiming maturity.

1. Maturity is not insinuating under your breath without specifically naming names and addressing people directly, only cowards do what you did, that was cowardly and immaturity.

2. People were lied on and slandered with no proof and for no reason, obviously, maturity and common sense dictates that if you must comment on the situation, you offer a sane, rational and unbiased assessment of the situation, but that you did not do, you instead offered your own cowardly, jundiced and immature statement.

3. The ultimate insult and uncorrected insult is the lies and slander perpetrated by lying Afam the bigoted mod and you ignoring that says a lot about your own sense of lowly honesty and meager reservoir of maturity.


My friend, leave maturity alone because maturity is one thing you know nothing about and shouldn't be referencing.

Thank you. I did not even bother reading what he wrote because I am done with time-wasters who cannot simply call out unthinking slanderers. Who can compare the mischief-makers and liars that are Insincere9gerian and Beaf to other posters here? When has posting encouraging, uplifting and genuine pictures with accurate links , as you do, about your own State and region become "propaganda"? Especially to those who should be indifferent to said "propaganda" since they don't live in the States and region they claim to be the subject of propaganda?

Who has ever asked these hateful creatures not to simply do same about their States and region? When has it become "propaganda" to speak in support of a Party in my own region , i.e the ACN, doing far better than one that left devastation everywhere (the PDP) not long ago that affected me and my loved ones personally ? This is proof some of these hack are pure evil and totally insane to the extent they say things that makes it easy for sane folks to discern that it is ethnic hatred that drives their utterance.

The real propagandist are those who don't live in Lagos and yet obsess about Fashola and Lagos 24/7 like the f00l Insincere9liar. The *astard propagandist are those not from lagos, like Insinceure9jara, who start a mischievous thread "seeking one project of Fashola" when the Lagos government is currently supervising over 1,600.00 projects currently. The shameless propagandist, supported blindly by these fools, would be a disgraceful troll who is from Delta State (Beaf) yet confessed to cowardice as per not being able to take his own failed Governor to task. Meanwhile, the slimy slowpoke has the energy to harass Tinubu,Aregbesola, Amosun, Fashola and Ajimobi 24/7. If some of these fools here are not vile creatures, they would not be supporting vile local champions who are always looking over the neigbhours fence here and are the embodiment of everything undesirable in a human being while calling those minding their own immediate business and directly pertinent governance "propagandists" . Mad people.

Kamanda: The problem with Nigeria is that 99.99% of the people have an IQ of less than 10.

That is why they are easily brainwashed by ethnic, religious,political forces and easily swayed by sensualism and sentiments.

That is why morally bankrupt sub-humans with no concience like Sincere9gerian,Rossike and co will daily cook up B-Ull-sKhit on NL like this trash story.

Anyone with a brain slightly more developed than that of a Toads can see that the SSS/JTF/PDP and Presidency have been playing out a BH script right from when GEJ became acting Presido.
The aim is to hold on to power by playing the North against the South/Muslims against Xtians.

The JTF have simply discovered weapons that they themselves had planted in the first place.

Thank Goodness for sensible Nigerians like Shymex.
As for 4oL crew,they are scums not even fit to be eaten by vultures.

Thank you. How many examples do we have that shows we are currently led by a highly dishonest government lacking credibility or even a scant appreciation of basic decency? This is a Government preserved by spin and the divisive manipulation of Nigerians who remain eternally gullible and disgracefully unsophisticated politically and socially. PDP politicians are threatening the President left, right and centre but cretins here continue to shout Buhari, Tinubu. El Rufai et al to justify how some want to make this exclusively about the North and Soutwest fighting the SS and SE when it is crystal clear to anyone not into self-deusion that this is a struggle between a highly treacherous President and his colleagues from the same "nest of killers". Shior. Nigeria is a dream come true for evil politicians because the people are so easy to bait, deceive, divide and dominate.

eggheaders: hypocrite, i wonder what kind of subhuman you will be in real life.switching alliances on a default.you started leaning seriously to do pdp and gej since when the allegation of being bias was leveled against you by the worthlessnigerian.and you lied to seun about your political worldview.wonder which kind of being you are that stands for nothing.rather swayed like garbage by other people's opinion. your cluelessness is priceless.

Slimy, bigoted piece of sh1t more like.

talktimi: The insults and abuses on this thread are coming from only one particular group of progressives. I like their maturity.

Shut up you clannish dolt. What maturity do you expect from someone you have lied against all in a cheap attempt at character defamation? Shun indoctrination and stand for what is right for once in your miserable life. You guys have not even seen insult. You are all losers who don't care your name is slandered because you don't have the character to develop a name/persona worth respecting either here on this forum or in real life. I will not entertain lies against my person by a semi-illiterate bigots in the form of Afam4eva.

Insincere9gerian and Beaf specialise in attacking Fashola, Aregbesola and every individual perceived a threat to GEJ 24/7 here regardless of how well that person is performing at meeting the needs of the electorate. You fools should show where I have ever done the same even once against the likes of Chime, Akpabio or Amaechi. Being happy with my region, people and the Party in charge of affairs in the SW does not amount to propaganda i.e stretching the truth. It is my right to love what is working for me and announce support for that publicly as long as I am not making things up. Why does that make you hateful people mad? When , if he has not lied, have I accused an Anambra-dwelling passionate APGA supporter of propaganda here on this forum? It is lying and falsification that is wrong never passionate political support.

Even Eko Ile, ultra-passionate about the SW, cannot be accused of that because he is only celebrating achievements he provides pictures and official links for. That is very different to Beaf claiming Yar Adua's amnesty program was GEJ's idea yet not a single corroboratory source anywhere in cyberspace. It is also different to Insecure9gerian, Maku and others conferring 'stolen' achievements on GEJ. Insecure9gerian confessed to not living in Lagos yet he never stops attempting to malign Fashola. Show where I do same for Chime or anyone else. My concern is the Presidency, for obvious reasons, and local State administrators in SW State because that is the region I use directly in Nigeria. Eko Ile is same. You should ask why all the liars from your neck of the wood you support clannishly are always obsessed with everything to do with Yoruba folks to include the administration of Yoruba States they don't live in. This is very true for the failure called insecure9gerian and the shameless and serially discredited liar called Beaf who never spoke of his Delta State yet knew every nook and cranny of Osun, Ogun, Oyo and Ekiti State .

Yes, I will insult you all because that is what you aberrant folks deserves. Rather than tell Insecure9gerian off so you have better representatives in cyberspace, your ilk ignores the wrong he does to round on others who do nothing wrong and have no particular interest in you. I challenge you all to simply rise above market women behaviour. Prove any allegation you level against others. SImple. It is what a real man, father, husband and productive member of society would do. Continuing to speak without compelling those you clannishly support to prove their slander is proof you too amount to nothing but scum.