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Yeah!
Finally get to work with the great builder and a true professional. Thank you for the opportunity sir.

Well done sir.

geesampower:
A very good question sir
The rate of charge has NOTHING to do with a generators capacity, it has every thing to do with the charger either the inbuilt charger (inverter) or an auxiliary charger or the use of both.
A typical 3.5kva inverter may not have a charger that is more than 20 to 30 amps, typically 24v, during the first stage of charging the charger uses a higher voltage to charge 28v -32v.
This means the peak draw from your generator is 30amps by 32v which is 960va, so far you generator can provide this then you are ok. Does not matter if it is a 3kva generator or 100kva generator, your charger would only draw what is needed to charge the batteries and go through the whole 4 stage of charging. Real average draw would be more of 480va
With a 20amp charger, charging 4 200ah batteries would take about 10 hours.
For faster charging, add an auxiliary charger and you can half the charge time but double the power requirement.

Mr barezzi, pls note what I said; THE RATE. The question he was asking on is if one generator would charge faster than another generator. RATE has NOTHING to do with generator size but EVERYTHING to do with the inbuilt charger or auxiliary charger you are using. Thee generator size only determines IF that power can be supplied or not.
Appreciate your contribution.
Can you share with use the other appliances you use with the generator sir

Barezzi:
I have a 4300VA magnum inverter that has a charging current of 55Adc.
i have a 6500VA generator.
When ever i use the generator to charge my battery bank, the inverter draws about 12Aac, while feeding 55Adc to the battery bank(Bulk charging stage). The house draws an extra 4Aac, bringing total draw to about 16Aac. My generator usually groans like it wants to die A 6.5kva gen o
So check your maths again...

There is nothing wrong with my maths.
All inverters don't have the same charging current. What you need to do is to check the charging current of your inverter. You just said your inverter has a charging current of 55A dc, that is YOUR inverter. The example I gave above was 30A dc Max NOT 55ADC. So don't mix things up sir.
The importance of my comment is in educating the reader on how to calculate this them selves.
this is not a thread for one fits all, it is for education. You take the knowledge and adapt to your unique situation.
If I say for every 4kva magnum inverter buy a 8kva generator. Does that mean I am making sense?
Absolutely NO.
Because you still have to calculate rate of charge.
Would your inverter need 10hrs to charge 4 200ah batteries?
Absolutely NO.
But the example I gave above would need 10hrs to charge the batteries.
So my maths is not wrong in anyway. Situations only differs
You have to make sure you put round pegs in round holes.
Buy a generator that can deliver what your charging current is
And don't neglect the voltage too.
The lesser you have to step down to the more current your generator can comfortably deliver.

hahn:
I wonder what geesampower has to say about this

This is tiring, I just weak. J.K Rowling, TRR tolkin and a host of other authors have made good money from such thinking, I hope this dude does not waste his talent on nairaland. My candid advice.
Wish I have such a "healthy imagination". I wld write the best fantasy movie the world has ever seen.

johnydon22:
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Exactly the point. . . . If by God one is referring to an infinite value of universal casualty - Energy, matter, gravitational singularity or effects. . . Then that is absolutely ok ..

But when you make an anthropomorphical personifications of these values.

-God becomes a humanoid who has a mansion somewhere
-Has a son
-Like jews more than others
-Is so insecure that it gets jealous
-Cluelessly bearing grudges with humans
-Demands worship
-wants to burn people
-Has a 72 virgin reserve. . ETC..

You see the personification attributes has distanced the idea from the values it was meant to represent making out something different all together.

That is the part someone says - This is bullshiit, i don't believe it...

This was exactly my reply to BETATRON

"If by God one means Gravitational or any other proven force controlling
natural interactions then such premises can be looked into but asserting an
almost humanoid persona it slips down the drain of primitive assumption and
personification."
https://www.nairaland.com/2490200/how-atheists-handle-morality-absence/1#39681058
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What wirinet wrote there says it all. Existence of God may not be the real issue but what we call god.

theAtheist101:
I think he and his other mumu friend are primary school students in Osun State, that got the free oponimo (tablet) that their state governor is sharing.

so obvious he is one. Not seen anyone like him here.
He makes no sensible point with his posts.
I believe in the teachings of Christianity, especially on love and many others, just like the teachings of Buddha, but the spiritual content won't survive for long. Only the teachings and principles would live forever.

peaceland:
Sir
Pls is it that 2.7-3.3 rated generator CANNOT charge a 3.5kva inverter system or its just going to be slow?

A very good question sir
The rate of charge has NOTHING to do with a generators capacity, it has every thing to do with the charger either the inbuilt charger (inverter) or an auxiliary charger or the use of both.
A typical 3.5kva inverter may not have a charger that is more than 20 to 30 amps, typically 24v, during the first stage of charging the charger uses a higher voltage to charge 28v -32v.
This means the peak draw from your generator is 30amps by 32v which is 960va, so far you generator can provide this then you are ok. Does not matter if it is a 3kva generator or 100kva generator, your charger would only draw what is needed to charge the batteries and go through the whole 4 stage of charging. Real average draw would be more of 480va
With a 20amp charger, charging 4 200ah batteries would take about 10 hours.
For faster charging, add an auxiliary charger and you can half the charge time but double the power requirement.

keziah123:
hello, what's the price pls

52,000 naira

keziah123:
hello, what's the price pls

52,000 naira

johnydon22:


Lol... I feel compelled to oblige and explain some things when asked or engage in a discussion when necessary.

It may be rude or arrogant of me to ignore someone just because i think he is wrong, i can spare a few time to discuss and at least reach a logical conclusion.

Just like i am sure i and Remi have reached on his Ouija board postulation..

That is good anyway
All the best

frank317:
Lol...i magine the embarrassment. And he fails to explain how his crying ghost wore spiritual cloths.

It is just plain ridiculous.
Just the other day in PH (story was on FP) a whole permanent secretary of the ministry of agriculture believed a white rabbit under his car was a witch and workers even closed early on that day to run home. Smh

johnydon22:


I believe that sentence was very self explanatory and clear...



This was still addressing the state of ideomotor because the person's consciousness is in a sub state, cognitive ability, perceptibility and volition and willful motor control is not in a normal state and so the subject is in a state of ideomotor... (His body is moving but in this state he cannot perceive it is..

The sentence was quite clear. . .It was addressing the state of Automatism/Ideomotor...

Well done o.
You really have time for all these. But I understand, if you don't answer their questions regardless of how silly it is, it would be presumed you've been proven wrong.
But honestly you don't have to.

As I said earlier, this sort of argument only lead to brain drain. There is nothing to gain from it. This is not a discussion this is a "I MUST PROVE HIM WRONG" sort of argument. Explain all you want to, you are just wasting your time.

One day I was burning some trash and as I stood there staring at the flames I heard a voice loud and clear. The voice told me all sinners would burn in hell. That happened when I was a kid. I've had a dream of me and jesus living happily in heaven. Lol, so what? Does my dream of a talking pencil also prove pencils talk, or my dreams of mickey mouse and I playing prove the existence of mickey mouse?

All these I tell you are true, but they don't prove anything. Dreams and "voices" in our heard are all products or our thoughts, which are products of what we hear, read etc.

I used to have sleep paralysis some 6 years ago, when ever it happens I feel I am struggling with a demon, a female demon to be precise.
I stopped believing in demons and all these bull crap about 5yrs ago.
I researched sleep paralysis and got to know the cause (has nothing to do with demons of cos)
I realized it happens when ever I sleep very late and I try to wake up before having enough sleep.
Since then I sleep on time so I don't have to force my self to wake up before having adequate sleep (which my body fights and caused the sleep paralysis). That was the end, no prayers, no deliverance.
I got the impression they were demons cos of what I hear in church, people giving testimonies about demons pressing them in their sleep and how "God" saved them from the demon.

Our minds can be very funny, tell a kid there is "ojuju" in a dark empty room and his mind would create the image of the "ojuju" vividly to the extent he would believe he can see it physically.
You can even influence how the "ojuju" would look like. Tell the kid it has horns and he would see one with horns, tell the kid it has a tail and he would see it with a tail.
This works for ANY kid. Just don't look like you are playing. Tell the kid with all seriousness and he would see whatever you describe.
Leave such a kid with this impressed on him and his mind would create more demons of different shapes and sizes. Reason why I laugh at the so called cockville miracle many are excited about.
An impressionable mind only needs suggestions and the mind would do the rest.

Remilekun101:
i read that also

check this link


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdoKgXPi9C8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kCHtl7BqNo

http://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Ouija-Board-True-Story-History-35962378

i have scanned the internet but can't find where this man paper work is The phenomenon was first explained way back in 1852, in a paper
presented by Dr William B Carpenter at the Royal Institution of Great
Britain.

http://paranormal.about.com/od/ouijaboards/fl/Tales-of-the-Ouija.htm

So why does it not work when users are blindfolded. Please stop beating a dead horse. I am sure the inventor if alive would be amused at your kind who took his TOY so serious.
This thread would only lead to brain drain. Seems like a discussion of desperate primary school pupils.
I apologize for commenting on your thread, I just cldnt help it. I am really bewildered at how primitive and disjointed the arguments presented in favor of afterlife are.
At the beginning I was excited, thought you had a ground breaking discovery to share.
But here we are with TOYS as proof of after life.
Again I apologize for commenting. Off I go

Remilekun101:
You know they exist through experiments. Remember my Ouija board. Why don't you create one and try to talk to any departed ones. Then you will KNOW

Gone through the thread. It was interesting, but equally annoying. So many red herring tactics.

You fail to keep the conversation in line.
From ouija boards to your "inner" eyes seeing a spirit to micro organisms.

Why don't you follow any of your analogies to a logical conclusion before jumping to another.
You seem desperate to say the least.

John asked a very good question; you saw a spirit in clothing, so does this mean cloths have spirits too? Why was the spirit or soul or what ever you saw, why did it not have a mobile phone too?

Can you see the white skeleton in your body?
But you know you have a skeletal frame, you know you must have a kidney, same with the microbes. They are physical entities that can be verified at any time. You don't need analogies or inferences to prove them. They are proves of them selves. You want to prove the existence of your femur right now, just take a knife and cut deep into your thigh. You will find your femur right there as proof of it's own existence.
As a kid shadows, flares and reflection of lights in my peripheral vision were perceived as ghosts and demons. Ask any kid that has been exposed to movies with ghosts and stuff, they would strongly believe in their existence and claim they have seen ghosts too.
I have claimed to see ghosts many times as a kid. I was 100% sure of their validity. I believe we all passed through that stage in our lives. Growing up, you either outgrow this or you give credence to your paranoia. Same goes for the ouija board, it is nothing more than a mirror to your mind, you see what you wanna see, just like looking at the clouds and making sense of random shapes the cloud forms, you will always make sense of the random pattern the cloud makes if you open your mind to it.

Hehehehehehe This is very interesting

KingEbukasBlog:
You are really missing the point here . I'm not disputing the fact about matter and energy but am asking why couldn't energy be eternal and not self existent since it cannot be created or destroyed . Simple . I'm not arguing with him I'm trying to discuss with him . Or can you help ?

Ok
It is very possible that matter and energy has always existed (eternal). There can't be anti matter without matter and there can't be dark energy without energy. There can't be life as we know it without all these 4 components. No one knows the beginning of matter, it cannot be dated. Scientists can only attempt to date the age of the universe, that is the order it has, not the actual age of matter.
Even the bible saying in the beginning the world existed tho it had no form. So even if we would believe the biblical account, it also agree's that matter has always existed.
If we would believe in God, then it's prove that energy has always existed.
The substance of creation is eternal. So plain to see. energy and matter has always existed obviously.

wirinet:
If what i said offended you, then i am sorry. I was surprised you did not know what the E = MC2 equation means. It simply means energy is equal to mass multiplied by a constant. The constant is the speed of light multiplied twice.
It the simplest term, it mean mass is very concentrated energy.

I hope you understand now.

Please explain what you mean by eternal.

That is just it. It's funny to see nairalanders try to be physicists without proper research into what they post. Explaining science to a determined religious minded person is a waste.
Even the bible agrees that the wise cannot understand the things of God, because faith in God is only by faith.
Even without knowing of E=mc2 I independently arrived at the conclusion that matter is equal to energy even as a little child cos I think a lot about life and whatever tickles my imagination. Excite matter enough and it breaks up unleashing energy and losing mass. Seriously this arguments here are ridiculous. I have seen religious people even say scientific break through and inventions are all white men's witchcraft. Are these the kind of shallow minded people you are wasting your time replying?

KingEbukasBlog:
@wirinet ... you still haven't shown how energy is self existent and not eternal .

Honestly, your posts and questions are all ridiculous. I am not an atheist, but you are taking this too far.
If we are to go into details of proving relationship of matter and energy then we would turn this thread to a physics thread which in no way helps to prove the existence of God. Believe in God is simply believe in God, faith based, personal experience you can attribute to none other but the almighty.
Don't make a fool of your self here saying matter is not energy.
I hope you have heard of the hadron collider? Where atoms which is the building block of matter are smashed together to break them further down. One of the product of this collision is energy, immense energy. Same principle is responsible for the operation of atomic bombs.
It's obvious you don't know that elements can be converted from one to another. For example you can canvert helium with atomic number 2 to hydrogen with atomic number 1. This is how the hydrogen bomb works, this is how nuclear weapons work. There is left over mater which wld be lesser in mass cos the missing mass was converted to energy.
Stop this display of illiteracy online. This is the internet your post would be read all over the world.
You don't have to struggle to prove God. Believing in Him and serve Him how best you can. Preach his word and not make a fool of yourself driving at nothing. Science can't yet explain the beginning of everything, neither can any religion prove the beginning. So what is exciting you here? You are asking silly questions and you are feeling funky. People replying you must really have time. I don't post on religious threads cos we throw reason out of the window just to uphold our believe. Be a christain and stop being uncomfortable with scientific findings. I am not interested in conversing with you. You can quote me but I don't reply people like you.
I am a christain by the way.

Bossforeva:
Cool Ride, Davido please take that Ride to Khaz Custom, for an Exciting paint job, super cars don't stand out on plain black and silver rims.

Pls is the outfit in Nigeria, kindly share address or link where their paint jobs can be viewed.
Thanks boss

biyibd:
Thank you for the response boss. So in essence no grid tied pump can deliver such flowrate at such low wattage. So what do you advise then? Can a solar pump deliver such flowrate? If yes,how much will the setup cost- cost of solar pump and solar system to power same. The pump will run non-stop. Thank you once again

I sincerely apologize for my late reply.
Absolutely yes. But when you say round the clock, then that would require a battery back up, charge controller and extra solar panels that would cater for the backup charging.
There are grundfos, sunpumps, lorentz pumps that would get the job done

donmajor2:
@geesampower Is there any small Solar pump to pump water from an underground reservoir/well to an overhead tank? I am thinking of deploying a small DC pump for this purpose to be used only during sunshine.
Please advise. Thanks in advance

Absolutely. And it can use just 200watts, but would only deliver about 500 to 1000 liter in an hour. If you are on wattsapp, you can contact me I can send the pump to you.

biyibd:
Hello boss,
I have followed your various posts on solar powered pumps and solar power for home use. I have the following questions on pumps and solar:
1. Is there any low head (20feets) high flow rate (15-20,000ltr/hr) pump that can be powered by both power grid and DC(inverter tie solar) with low wattage less than 400watts? How much does it cost and what is the rating and flowrate?
2. If there is any, and i want to run same for 24hrs none stop (recirculating aquaculture system), how much will such a solar system cost to run the pump only?
I appreciate and anticipate a swift response. Regards

I am really sorry sir. There is no pump either dc or ac that can deliver that flowrate at that wattage.
And very few pumps use ac and dc interchangeably, so this highly limits your options.
To get that flow-rate you need a pump of at least 2hp and that would require about 2500watts of electricity or more if the pump is not using a BLDC motor.

targus:
1) 1, Chest Freezer.
2) 1,Double doors American Fridge Freezer
3) 2,OX standing Fan.
4) 1, 50" LCD tv
5) 1, 1.5 Pumping Machine ( everything else can be switched off when using this)
6) 10 Energy saving bulbs. (Only at Nights)
7) 1 Dstv
cool 1 Laptop


The Fridge and Freezer i expect to be on 24 hours a day (irrespective of Nepa Wahala), the rest 7 hours top except pumping machine which will only be use when there is no water in the tank

Can see someone posted a cost of N10m above.
Hope he is just kidding.

Ishilove:
You see the problem is that 'religion' as we know it is inherently flawed. Religion is a creation of man, and hence it is being abused by human beings who use it to perpetuate their insidious purposes. Humans are now more religious, rather than spiritual.

All a matter of time. You will see the bigger picture

samplegirl:
I have one 200ah battery. I have been charging it with nepa but now I want to add solar panels, plz how many panels and what capacity do I need.

Thank you.

The number of panels depends on how quick you want it to charge.
Use 2 140watts panel and you will have your battery 100% full within 4 to 6 hrs depending on the weather guaranteed. That is for charging alone.
A 30A pwm is ok. I am asking u to use pwm cos it is just 1 battery, u don't need to buy an expensive MPPT charge controller to charge a 200ah battery

We will be Renovating this. Stay tuned. A big learning experience for me.

Good job Femi!
Keep delivering. Many still believe there are straight forward and reliable people like you here on Nairaland.

Engrr:
Bros you are very observant, noticed that too!!

Hehehehe
Nice observation. I challenge the op to take a picture of himself standing in front of the car with today's newspaper.

Seun! We got one here. Pls ban this thief