₦airaland Forum

Teelabo:
Nawa ooo, this can only happen among the black races. Senseless continent

Putin is doing the same, Kim is also doing the same, it's inferiority complex to think that this is only happening in Africa. Emancipate yourself from mental slavery

Boladogailese:
This might just be our fate as Nigerians if we don’t stand up this 2027

This can not happen in Nigeria. There's too much tension, division for this to happen. The country's existence is constantly sitting on a keg of gunpowder, anyone too ambitious to try this will set it off and that would be the end.

Kukutente23:
Where did God say so? Can you quote it?

22 “Set aside a tithe—a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Then go to the one place where the Lord your God has chosen to be worshiped; and there in his presence eat the tithes of your grain, wine, and olive oil, and the first-born of your cattle and sheep. Do this so that you may learn to honor the Lord your God always. 24 If the place of worship is too far from your home for you to carry there the tithe of the produce that the Lord has blessed you with, then do this: 25 Sell your produce and take the money with you to the one place of worship. 26 Spend it on whatever you want—beef, lamb, wine, beer—and there, in the presence of the Lord your God, you and your families are to eat and enjoy yourselves.

Deuteronomy chapter 14; 22-26 ( goodnews Bible translation)

CodeTemplar:
lol. Pounded yam and egusi soup inside church.

And what's wrong with that? In Deuteronomy, God directed the Hebrews to Eat and drink wine( that's shayo) in his presence .

SixSeven:
Again, I don't know this man and I don't care but I disagree with you about manmade this or that. I don't believe in sheeple. There are those guys who wear aprons while their oga is using bodyguards, if they choose to be like that, all the best to them. What I won't accept is that certain places don't have rules. I don't believe in that.

If the rule in your house is that you must call me before coming, I should respect that. I won't call you a charlatan for that rule neither will I insult those who go there if I prefer surprise visits. There is freewill and because of people like this, there are consequences too. Have you seen someone heckling a comedian or panelist while they are speaking to an audience? It's freewill but there are rules to these places. Indiscipline is when you cannot obey rules or regulate yourself with other people.


https://www.tiktok.com/video/7547802946029817102

You're not getting it. Asking people to not nourish themselves in your presence is shows you're an egoistic control freak, which is what most of these MOGs are. Not even God has ever asked that of any man.

Guestmale:
The freedom to go out and drink water is when it's absolutely necessary, things we couldn't do in the presence of ordinary governor let alone president,we are comfortably doing it in the presence of God.

So if it's not necessary then you don't have the freedom to go and do whatever? And who determines when it's necessary, the pastor or you?

You can go on and about in the presence of God because God doesn't see that as a problem, he instructed the Hebrews to eat, drink wine and enjoy themselves in His presence.

SixSeven:
Discipline refers to training that produces obedience, self-control, or order, often involving rules and, sometimes, punishment for violations. It encompasses both internal self-regulation (the ability to act in spite of distractions) and external regulation (enforced rules).


It is free will to not obey the rules by not attending. Don't you think so?

It is also free will to choose not to obey such rules in the church.

Here's the thing, if people start obeying such man made rules by walking out of the church auditorium to eat or drink, this same charlatan will order them to not leave because they in the presence of God and claim that it's disrespectful to leave their seats during worship.

Kukutente23:
Before you attack him, he's saying don't drink water inside the church auditorium
If you want to, go outside the church building to do so
You may disagree with him but he's not said anything that's not practiced by most churches and religion

In the old testament, didn't God tell the Hebrews to come and eat, drink wine and enjoy themselves in his presence?

All these are just man made laws that has nothing to do with one's salvation

buygala:
Muslims don't drink water, eat or chew gum n mosques during their prayers...By so doing, they show by example how others should respect their religion and Prophet

If Christians choose not to respect their own Jesus by behaving anyhow in Church, then what basis do they have to demand such respect from others?

If these same Christians are before even a Local Government Chairman, they won't be eating, drinking and chewing gum in his presence

I don't like Pastor Ibiyeomie, but but he is right on this one..

God ordered the Hebrews to eat and enjoy themselves in his presence, Jesus fed thousands of people during a sermon.

Eating in the presence of God is not disrespect, neither is it a sin. Humans are just pilling on man-made laws and doctrines on people. Pastors will come to the pulpit with a bottle water and occasionally drink it to wet his throat but then tell the congregation to not drink or eat? That's hypocrisy

MrJames007:
What about pastors who drink water on the pulpit while preaching

you dey mind that man? Na people wey dey listen to him I dey pity sha.

Bernadette9:
He is 100% right on this one.
Most Nigerians are not disciplined.
Unless on medical ground, it disgust me when I see people come to church with snacks and drinks for a church program thsts less than 3 hours.
Even of you're coming with a toddler, as long as the were fed before coming out, they should be able to hold on for 3 hours and this practice of coming to church with food is common amongst poor people (no disrespect intended).
As a Catholic, I know I won't stay in church for more than 3 hours.
Sometime last year, my family and I went to a church program and during prayer my husband and I go distracted for few minutes.
In less than 2 minutes i notice that my baby (a toddler) was holding cheese balls.
I asked the woman behind us and she confirmed that she was the one that gave her (i almost ran mad) when she said she gave my child snacks because first of all, you don't know the feeding program of a parent on their child so how dare you give my baby food without my permission.
Secondly, it shows how undiscipline you're as a parent if your child (if not sick) can't stay for 3 hours without putting something in their mouth and it even more disgusting if it's an adult that's eating in the church.
My baby was once crying and a woman asked me to go and buy her biscuits (she comes to church with snacks and carbonated drinks every Sunday) i no just answer am, pamper my pikin to stop cry.

This is because you really don't understand the religion yourself. There's absolutely nothing wrong in eating in church. I challenge you to show me one passage where people were told not to eat or drink in church. In fact, if we're going by the old testament, God himself ordered the Hebrews to eat, drink and enjoy themselves right in his presence. Jesus in the new testament fed thousands of people during a sermon, but here we have charlatans preaching false gospels to people who don't know there left and right.

Gotocourt:
Mtchewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


Wahala for who kpai.
Use your offering and tithes to feed well

lol... Tithes were even meant to be eaten by the tither but all these prosperity pastors have found a way to gaslight people into doing the direct opposite of what the tithe law says.... That's for those who still have one leg in Judaism and another in Christianity

brain54:
Irrespective of my personal opinion about the man...

He is right on this matter. Many Nigerians are not disciplined and don't know how to behave in public.


He is absolutely right on this one!

So how does this really work? In the morning you say feel free and be lively in the presence of God, then before noon you're ordering people to be disciplined in the presence of God. But then in the bible jesus fed thousands of people during a sermon.
I believe a lot of Christians have not really read the bible extensively and majority of Christians don't even understand the religion they're into.

There's nothing wrong with eating and drinking in the church and neither is there anything wrong with operating your device in church. It's not indiscipline, it is free will. You worship God the way you want to, as long as it's in truth and spirit.

WizardOfNG:
MTN and DSTV are businesses. They cannot be held responsible for what ordinary South Africans do. If you build a great business in Ghana, do you want it destroyed when some Nigerians over there attack and kill some Ghanaians?

Your business must be destroyed or taken away from you simply because you share nation of origin with wrongdoers you don't know and do not even approve of their action? This is too ignorant from Oshiomhole abeg.

Chelsea football club had no hand in the war Russia waged with Ukraine but the British government freezed their assets and forced Abramovic to sell the club at a discount just because he's a Russian and was at one time a close associate of Putin.

insidelife22:
Omo, Osho should answer the damn question.

He answered the question admirably and I totally, totally agree with him here.

geoworldedu:
You are right. Opta placed MLS far higher than Saudi Pro League.

Do you think that Seria A is stronger than Bundesliga and La Liga?

geoworldedu:
See what Opta power ranking said below. So the argument is debatable.

That Opta dey mad! How can Seria A be higher than Bundesliga and La Liga?

dibunotion:
As of today, MLS is ranked higher due to number of on Field attendance and online views

We're talking of league ( football) quality not viewership numbers

Satazaa:
Not only Nigeria, even in England too, Micheal Oliver is a close ally and in the paybook of the owners of Manchester City, he favours them unashamedly, he even received a golden wrist watch from the city owners, so na everywhere only say Nigeria own worse pass 😩😩😩

The refereeing in England are so blatant with their corruption. Some people call it incompetence but I disagree with that, they're just very corrupt and biased. Michael Oliver and co are always fair decent in Europe, with little to no controversial calls. But when they come to the EPL you start seeing all sorts of nonsense.

codemaniacs:
Read image below

I've just confirmed something, you're obviously one of those data boys

Iweakbro:
Una mind go touch ground. We speak Igbo in some parts of Anioma, we support Anioma state, but it will never be zoned to the south east. The one term senator(Ned Nwoko) is on his way out.

If Anioma is created it will 100% be zoned to the South East region. That's the entire essence of the campaign for it's creation.

WhizdomXX:
We can't deny it bro, yes I want Anioma state but don't want to be in southeast for personal reasons but it is what it is. I advised Ned people to not force it but instead ask for a referendum in 2027 alongside the general elections as it will also show people the government is taking the state creation seriously and will also drive support and turnout for Ned in the general elections but they were insulting me. Now Okowa, with a 1.5 trillion naira efccc allegation hanging on his neck is coming to displace him and all he has done.

If Anioma is created it will 100% be added to the South East region, that's the entire essence of the campaign to create it. If it's not going to be added to South east then it will not be created. There were campaigns to create a sixth state within the South east region but this was abandoned for the sake of Anioma which if created will become the sixth state and reunite the igbos across the Niger with Their kin in SE.

Now check out the names of those rallying for his re-election 🤔 and tell me what you noticed

fredoooooo:
Keeeeeeeee yaself

na Una dey keeeeeee unasef for the matter na

loveth360:
When i saw them complaining about south Africans, asked some of them the different between Yorubas and the south Africans they are complaining about.

There's no difference between them and South Africans.

Pootle:
yes there is insecurity and the govt is not doing enough, but the attacks looks political during buhari 8years herds men were causing issues but not to this level. those playing polities with people lives hand go touch urna one day

What?! It wasn't to this level during buhari's tenure? You people really think we all have goldfish memories like the rest of you. It was during Buhari's tenure that Agatu was attacked repeatedly, I know someone whose brother died in one of those attacks, there were attacks in Benue almost every month, sometimes twice the same week. In fact, the Fulani herdsmen/ terrorists were very emboldened during the last dispensation which led to the total rejection of RUGA and the establishment of Ametokun. It is just that now they have moved down south and are currently sieging SW states.

Irony1:
That guy always spread bigotry and pretends like he is good.

Na hypocrisy be their bread and butter.

fredoooooo:
Governor what happen to osun indigene...
This is the ori uruku you always start

This is even worse than the South Africans who are demanding that businesses and organisations should sack all foreigners in their payroll and employ South Africans instead.
But I'm sure you criticised South Africans for their xenophobia but here you are doing the exact same thing

Codepain:
You are right kind of.
But shouldn't it be reciprocal
If those igbo friend get to power in igbo land shouldn't they help their yoruba friend too?
Or helping is only for igbo

There are Yorubas working as civil servants in the South east.

saintkel:
so other state appointing non indigenes are also silly?

Tomorrow these same people will be criticising South Africans of xenophobia.

YoungBlackRico:
Well, jokes on you. It wasn't usually like this 🙂, before now people usually overlook shi like this...

wonder why people are becoming more vocal now...🙂

That's a lie! People never overlooked anything, it's been like this since independence. Awolowo was a well known tribalist same with Ahmedu Bello.

Christistruth00:
You can call us whatever you like we don't care anymore as long as you stay out of our Lane and we stay ot of yours.
Before it was not a big issue
But Betty Akeredolu and Okey Onuakalusi
really really spoilt the ground

Tah! Shut up there, it has always been an issue for you people long before Onuakwulusi. I remember the story of a girl who was denied the opportunity to represent her school despite her father being Yoruba, but because her mother was Igbo They denied her that opportunity. I also remember the case that happened in this very Osun State where a boy who was of Igbo decent got the highest score in weac, the LG chairman celebrated him and that caused serious issues among the Yorubas who criticised the LG for not celebrating the second placed student who was omolabi. Did we also already forget how the Yorubas disenfranchised the electorates who weren't omolabi during the 2023 presidential and governorship elections? Even going as far as burning down their shops and livelihoods. Your tribalism did not start today so don't come her to pretend as if you're were saints before now. It's even funny you should be saying this when the presidents himself have favoured his tribesmen in the majority of appointments he's made.