PropheticMike: Why quoting Jeremiah 17 vs 5-11? i thought the Old book is not relevant again? stop confusing yourself and stop your selective obedience to God. you obey the ones you like and disobeyed the ones that don't suit your lifestyle.. selective obedience is still disobedience to God
That you do not follow the old covenant does it mean you cannot quote from it? The old testament show you what happened b4 Christianity came. It's only Africans that fail to understand the Bible due to ignorance.pls remove prophet from your name.. Oh.. U be juju prophet sorry
PropheticMike: . I guess that "judge not that ye be not judge" is also in the old testament? now that you assume the position of God to judge who is wrong and who is right(you must be Jesus yourself. wow Adeboye is ignorant, kumuyi is ignorant.........you must be God that set the standard. let me ask, what has been your contribution to gospel since you were born to come out attack everyman out there trying to win souls to Jesus? Go and evangelize and stop sitting behind buttons attacking everyone to impose your dirty ideology. worse still, you keep attacking the scriptures like you have rewritten it.
You call the written word of the Bible 'dirty ideology'? By responding to you have I not won more souls to christ than carrying a Bible to preach falsehood. 'Judge not' being old or new testament, how does it relate? That I judged you means another can judge me. Am I complaining? That kumuyi and adeboye have a large church gathering does it mean they will all make heaven? Have you not heard that narrow is the way?
PropheticMike: All the reactions are expected, but i will advice you to write articles on your wall, based on your own understandings and views and stop attacking everyone that doesn't see things the way you are seeing it. stop attacking people on the cyber space. share your views on your walls and bless somebody. Dont be a terrorist.
It's like seeing a child say 1+1=45, wouldnt you stop to school him right? One thing I have noticed is that mostly those that did not prosper in school went on to become pastors and most lack simple comprehension of English language and claim to be spirit taught.the spirit teaching you also does not know book. Why is something called old? Is it not because there is a new one? It is foolishness to practice what is old together with the new way given to you. That living faith, redeem, christ Embassy etc practice it, does it make it right? These churches I mentioned above, are they not run by ignorant Nigerian men?
PropheticMike: Thank you Mr all knowing. to people like you, sin was nailed to the cross with Christ. to people like you hyper grace preachers: fornication, adultery, and stealing are under the law. you cant do anything wrong again. Just continue with your delusion.
Like I said before, you are lost in ignorance. Under the law, fornication, adultery and stealing had its immediate consequences which was physical death(law of sin and death) but under grace, you are forgiven and you can be reborn anew. The old testament law of sin and death was accomplished as soon as christ fulfilled the law by dying on the cross.
Matt 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.(A) 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.(B)
Bro, Come down from your local high horse, so that you can learn.
OkCornel: We’ve been screaming this truth for years now. But ignorant brainwashed pastor worshippers will never listen.
They will soon come and repeat their “tithing works for me” lies even when it’s clear there’s no scriptural authority backing the monetary tithing scam going on in the penterascal churches.
I’m really curious to know how much Job (a gentile) tithed before God blessed him. Let’s start from there.
PropheticMike: People of God, do not be deceived, every part of the bible is relevant and valid but must be studied with revelations of the Holy spirit.
I know very well that there is nothing you post or preach that people will not attack you, but gospel truth must be preached without fear. The issue of Tithe, offering and seed sowing have always separate preachers and it is a topic for the scorners. The concept of seed sowing was designed out of greed. Those sowing seeds are also doing so out of greed, but tithing and offerings are not in that league: They are biblical and important for the work of God to progress( do not tell me that old testament is not important to us under the dispensation of grace), however, there are terms and conditions(as provided in the bible) for the payment and collections of the same.
Many preachers have made it a central message(greed) as condition to attracting the blessings of God; these is an error. The standard are; numbers 18:21-29, malachi 3:8-9. and many verses on offering. 1. Tithe must be paid willingly and out of the increase of individual member 2. Must be paid into the coffer of the assembly or church (not to the account of the minister or in the envelope) 3. Must be used in running the activities of the mission including payment of full time ministers and the the tent(not the cathedral race we are now experiencing) 4. Should be oversee by the church committee or elders Romans 12:13, 2 corinthians 8:10-12, 2 corinthians 9:6-8 On offerings, a minister should not be requesting for an offering but a willing congregant can give to support Him and other less privileged in the church and society, and he should not make it a message............................. watch out for more tithe and offerings Yours in the vineyard; Pastor D.A. Mike 08067562634
You have a limited understanding of the Bible bro. Tithes, animal offerings and sacrifices, first fruit, seed etc were all nailed to the cross. Under grace, you give cheerfully any thing your mind tells you. When u talk about tithe, which one? Festival tithe, the poor tithe? Under which priesthood? Melchizedek? Levitical?
Very important - Not every thing that is biblical or scriptural is Christian. The Bible contains Judaism and Christianity All the things you said up there are not even scriptural, they are ideas of men, a farce
Daddyfreeze, the controversial OAP of Nigeria info fm has thrown his weight behind Rev Abel Damina's position on tithing. In his yesterday's teaching, he added further that paying of Tithes attracts a curse. He posited that it is laughable that a yoruba man can claim to be from Levi. Levites(temple assistants) are to collect from the people and give to the blood line of Aaron who are priests in the temple. He floored tithing before the law as well. He further challenged any Nigerian pastor to a debate which they have been shying away for 4 years now.
The senior pastor of Power chapel, Rev Abel DAMINA has finally put a lid on the argument about Christianity and tithing. He has painstakingly explained from the old testament to the new testament the meaning of tithe and its rationale. Excepts below
EaglesEyes1: Mr. Paul Odekina has taught guys a great lesson, 'that you shouldn't react harshly or negatively immediately u catch your spouse in the act of adultery'. Try to make use of the situation at your own advantage.
You are uninformed. He did not catch anybody. His wife left him on account that he was gay. She started seeing DF and they became married traditionally. If u stay with a woman separated from her husband whose marriage has not been annulled offcouse in law they can prove adultery.
The wife was separated from her former husband for several years on allegations that he was gay. She met and married DF later, they married traditionally but her former marriage was not annulled yet by the courts.legal divorce can take even 10yrs.Her former husband, to spite her proved adultery but she maybe could not prove his gayism.
His case is far better than that of Rev Iginla who was committing adultery whilst his wife was still beside him or that of past oyakilome of which his wife cited adultery and unreasonable behavior. DF own is a legal technicality.he married a woman already separated from her husband.
Angelmichael63: HMMM IS VERY WRONG AND AM SURE THAT THE PROPERTY WILL BE RETURNED TO THE FAMILY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY SOME NIGERIANS ARE SO BITTERED WHENEVER THEY HEAR THE NAME'CHURCH "WHETHER YOU PEOPLE LIKE IT OR NOT THE MORE YOU HATE CHURCH THE STONGER IT BECOMES BECAUSE NO ONE FIGHT AGAINST GOD AND SUCCEED.
THE FACT THAT MANY RUN TO OPEN CHURCH BECAUSE OF MONEY DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE DONT HAVE TRUE MEN OF GOD THAT GOD IS USING ON A DAILY BASIS. And our Lord Jesus warned us about them before now MATTHEW 24:11
THAT IS HOW SOME OF U WILL CONTINUE UNTIL GOD THROUGH U INTO A BIG PROBLEM AND IS THE CHURCH U WILL RUN TO FOR SOLUTION.
SOME EVEN GO AS FAR AS SAYING 'WHY SHOULD PASTOR BE RICH' LET ME REMIND YOU THAT PASTORS HAVE DIVINE SUPPLIES Matthew 6:33
JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF WERE VERY WEALTHY TO AN EXTENT OF HAVING FINANCIAL SECRETARY TO MANAGE THE TREASURY (JUDAS) SO WHY SHOULD HIS FOLLOWING BE POOR.
CHURCH WILL CONTINUE TO BE WEALTHY WHETHER U GIVE OR NOT.
ON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH AND THE GATE OF HELL WILL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.MATTHEW 16:18
REMEMBER EVEN FISH PAID TAX FOR JESUS CHRIST.
SO IF YOU GIVE PASTORS,YOU ARE DOING YOURSELF MORE GOOD THAN THE PASTOR.
BETTER NIGERIA IS INEVITABLE.
This is the most stupid comment I have read on this thread. Guess it's written by a brainwashed teenager.
Pastors have Devine supplies. Lol.. So why do u give them money?Las Las, you are your pastors God. Who told you that Jesus christ was very wealthy? Is it nt your pastor?so even me that have a secretary/treasurer, that means I am wealthy? Luke 9:58 Jesus replied, "Foxes have dens and birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head." Your pastor cannot show u d scriptures above. Jesus neither rode horses or chariots except the one time he rode lowly on a Donkey during his triumphant entry. He did not live in a palace either, Was not rich, rather..
2cor 8:9 For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.
Note:he was rich in heavenly riches but became poor on earth That u might become rich is not in worldly material things oo..but in heavenly riches
You are also not aware that his disciples died poor and were killed. Your brainwashing is complete. Yahoo Boys in suit and permed hair have finished this one
Oracleforce: ....Always Evasive and dodgy....so obvious.
..just show me some of the territories you have used your royal priesthood to occupy for the kingdom of God pending when Christ will come back to reign on earth. After all, Jesus says, occupy till I come...
Christianity is not a theory or hypothesis. It is neither by possessing good writing skills or oratory skill ...it is more practical than just propounding. thesis, theories, and dissertation.....
Bible says, "/by their fruits, you shall know them.....you become Christian with the seed of proofs and track records.....
Back to the topic of argument; bad or fake pastors, General-overseer is not my focus in Christianity. We all have our cross to carry. I always have it at the back of my mind that we will all bear account of stewardship before the judgment seat either good or bad.
SanctifiedSista: papa is not the healer. GOD is.. besides that's a rumour and u are better than that
So if God is the healer, what do you need papa for now? You think it's a rumor that your papa's wife is sick? You think she cannot be sick?maybe she doesn't shit as well!
SanctifiedSista: It's a wonderful idea though Tomorrow is church..what's your expectations? Never enter church without having the things u want to see turned to a testimony for u. Personally for those sick or in dire straits, i.invite u to the living Faith church winners cananland. Papa will be anoiting everyone with sickness and they will be free. Chat me for time or transport enquiry
But papa cannot heal his wife I heard suffering from cancer. She flies abroad for treatment.
assamu1122: To make your Sunday worthwhile according to the command of God, here are the five obligations to keep.
1. ATTEND CHURCH SERVICE: One of the important events that makes Sunday worthwhile is going to church and worship God. Though some people believe that, one must not go to church in order to worship God but in a day like Sunday set aside by God for the Christian community to worship him, it’s necessary to be in church service on Sunday so as to join others in fellowship with God.
2. REST: Rest is a very important ingredient for human growth. As a matter of fact, God has specifically set aside the 7th day of the week which is Sunday for man to rest. This is because, God himself used 6days to work and created everything in the world but on the 7th day, he handed up and took a rest. In a nutshell, it’s also applicable for man to set aside the day God himself honored for rest.
3. EXTEND A HELPING HAND TO THE NEEDY: Another obligation to keep on Sunday is to reach out to those who don’t have. Some people believe, one can only reach out to others or help neighbors only during festive period forgetting that, poverty does not look at time its occurs. People have needs at any given time and not only festive period. As such, in order to keep the commandment of God, one has to show love to one another on Sunday by reaching out to the needy.
4. READ BIBLE: Bible as the greatest book ever written and as a book that serves as life’s guide for mankind especially the Christians, it’s advised to read it at all times and the best day to read it and reflect on is the day God has set aside for rest and to worship him which is on Sunday.
5. THANKSGIVING: At the beginning of every week, one is propelled to ask God for a successful week ahead and it’s a spiritual task that, at the completion of a week as God has granted a successful week, one should thank God for making it possible. Thanksgiving to God excites God to do more for mankind. It spurs God to want to do more because one is grateful to him for the past. On a Sunday, the best gift to offer to God is a gift of thanksgiving. It’s a man’s obligation to get on the knees and thank God for all he has done.