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Leyqute:
THIS!

I’ve told my brother and several friends who are big Arsenal fans that this is the major problem with Gyo. Man wants to come into the team and have everybody play to his style and whims. But that’s not how things work. You have to learn how your teammates and find a way to acclimatize your game to theirs. Else, you’ll struggle.

Cunha had the same mentality at United earlier in the season. He was always trying to do everything by himself. He’s wiser now, hence his recent goals and assists, but there’s room for improvement.

Gyo needs to do exactly that, aside improving his touches, reading of the game and so on.

I don't understand how a lot of Arsenal fans don't see this. If you talk about Gyokeres they start thinking you don't know ball.
Big shout out to Spy360 I can now understand a bit of what it felt like defending Havertz everyday. Cus the same fans that criticised kai heavily can't take or understand the little being said about Gyokeres.

mine3112:
Hatrick. MA needs to study how the national team is using him. He is actually a prolific striker but we just need to know how he should be used so that he can be banging in the goals.

he's prolific no doubt about that, but it's not just about how he's being used, there's more to his play than how he's being used. I just want to see him score more goals and utilise his chances well

Gyokeres, two goals already. Abeg just carry this spirit and form come back Arsenal biko.

BlueRayDick:
One thing I noticed is that we have fans who are emotionally attached to some players , maybe because of the hype surrounding such players or just personal sentiments sha. Even when we perform well without such player in the lineup, they would still want the coach to find a way to squeeze him in and make gold out of dust.

Below is one of the instances Gyokeres was actually fed but his first touch , second touch and his inability to make a run at goal with ball at his feet led to him missing a very sweet chance.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWCxH85GGz8?si=PxlSs4JkulqNXHs3

When we point these things out, it's not because we want to blame the player exonerate Arteta for whatever the eventual outcome of the game would be, but just to put things into context .

I agree with you that Gyokeres should be doing better with his big frame and not let average defenders silent him in crucial matches.

he has actually made such runs countless times!!. Like, let your first touch drag the ball into the right position and be in front of opponents defenders chasing you, with his big frame he can either draw a foul or have a run into 1v1, but he would drag the ball off the right course and wait to pass back, most times losing the ball. We see it time and time again, but you know, he pushed to be here, broke up with his ex, and lost money to play for us, so yeah, we shouldn't criticise him.

BlueRayDick:
Personally I am indifferent about Gyokeres; I don't have any sentimental attachment to him.

All those times some fans were running agenda that he's being starved of passes in the final third, I didn't read any meaning to it at all because as someone who played football I can see that most times his positioning is suspect. He was also struggling to flow with the game maybe because of the pace of EPL compared to the Portuguese league.

However, I want to believe he will come out good with time. He just needs to keep improving and hold his head up high. To be fair to him, he's like the only striker doing better compared to all the strikers/forward signed by the top EPL teams this season. If injury doesn't come knocking at his door, he should be in blistering form next season.

i know Gyokeres can't replicate what he did at sporting here in Arsenal, but some fans can't see that. I just need him to improve, that's all. Some fanbase would rather turn a blind eye than see his lapses. Igor thiago, Joa Pedro, Ekitike all have more goals than him. And even sesko has more goal to minutes played ratio than gyokeres. He can have more goals than all these names if he really pushes himself to knowing how the team plays and making better positioning. On sunday, with his big frame and all, haaland had a better game than him, and haaland played against world known best center back pairing while he was with Ake and khusanov. With hom being the preferred no.9, he really have to turn up for us to win titles.

We can always talk about how our attack is dead but we shift blames when it comes to our traditional striker. Everyone knows Havertz issue is his clinicality, he gave us 9 epl goals in 23 appearances before his injury in January with 5 months of epl still to be played. This season Gyokeres have 11 goals in 29 appearances but all of a sudden it is not not fault. Countless times I have talked about his runs and positioning and some see it as hate watching. But the truth is that he needs to do much more better especially with the out cry that made us sign him. We complain about him not getting chances but when kai, Merino or jesus plays, they get more chances than him. Truthfully he is more clinical, but not knowing when to run and where to be at the right time is his achiles heels. On sunday when we were pressing against city, kai got into a nice position but couldn't finish it off and I hear people talking about how eze, Merino and Martinelli would have scored. No one mentioned Gyokeres, he's the striker that should be attacking the box.
The agenda of when he is off we are pressed have died. They don't feed him well, have died. Yet everyday new theories keeps coming up to defend him, just because he wanted us and pushed for a move. No one is calling Arteta out for always playing him ahead of others even though he is not being productive.
Selective criticism is welcomed shaa.

BlueRayDick:
Yeah, I want to believe most of players withdrawing from their respective national team duty during this international break is a signal that they are locking in for the next 7 games and want to see things through without any significant distraction. All they just need do is win as much as 6 out of the outstanding 7 games and results will cancel insult finally.

I want to see those players smile after the pain of failure in the past 2 to 3 years. I believe they have what it takes to do it. Make we just focus on our own games and not concern ourselves with city ; if they like let them be winning 13-0 each match going forward.

focusing on our game is the priority, if we can win our matches regardless of city's result, it will be great for us. If we can avoid a loss against city and win 5 matches, we're champions.
Gyokeres needs to be proactive if we are to win the title. He is the preference no.9 but keeps ghosting in important matches. For a team that has created over 60 big chances this season, our striker has 11 goals and 8 big chances missed. It's funny that no one talks about that. I clearly don't see the difference with what kai had in his first and second season even though he played some games as a midfielder and not a striker. Last season kai had 19 g/a in 35 games, in his first season he had 21 g/a in 51 games. Gyokeres currently have 17 g/a in over 40 games and yet everyone choose to be silent and defend him like it is normal.

BlueRayDick:
I agree with u.

the win on sunday has given man city a major confidence boast, it remains to see how how players react to this loss in the upcoming games. Throughout this season, each time we lose, we go on a long undefeated run, I hope we replay that in the epl with 7 games remaining and get 5 wins.

Kai got into a nice position and couldn't convert, this was the kind of things that made people shout for a no.9. But the no.9 we've got no fit ever enter that kind of position not to talk of shooting. He drags the ball so lazily, makes slow runs, and watching him play is sometimes frustrating.
I hope we have our attacking midfielders back before the visit to etihad.

eph12:
Arsenal will still win the league. I don't know why there is a meltdown about Carling cup

they say "attack wins you games but defence wins you league". This was just a game that our attackers choose to be fuccked up. Of all the rants I've heard and read online and offline, no body is talking about how Gyokeres, kai, saka and trossard cost us. The focus is on kepa for making a mistake. Yes, he made mistakes but what did our attackers do about it?. No pressing upfront, not managing and controlling the ball well, not burying the little chances they got, losing 1v1 situations, not linking up well.
Kepa should have done better with that first goal, but 10 minutes leading to the goal we looked disastrous and finished. If we get the ball from city we only loses it in seconds, the structure was disorganised at the back and they kept pushing, I knew a goal would come from that, cus it was obvious we lacked focus and structure to keep our heads cool.
I just want us to get far in ucl and fa cup, by then we would have won the league. The shift in mentality after we're confirmed league winner would be obvious.

Fkforyou:
Look at Guardiola formation today. It required in game management to adapt to the game.

Arteta got in wrong.

Whether Raya should have started or not, was immaterial at that point.

So, yes, for today, it’s on the coach.

I’m still backing the team to win the premier league though.

i really don't have the time to loathe this team. It is truly not worth it. We had the best chance in first half to kill the game but... Make them no just Bleep up epl and ucl. We move regardless.

Exactly. Na only league we want. And we don mark attendance in cup already. Next is to drop out of fa cup and ucl. If we bottle the league, e no go bad shaa. At least we would have a reason to sack Arteta

Basically, we're practically doomed!!!.
I no know why this match mo dey pain me,
Una put mind for quadruple, una no trust and rate Arteta, una know say na rubbish coach and una dey get hope untop him matter na when and if we lose epl I go talk, but all this ones no really concern me. We no spend billions to win calaba Cup or fa cup. Na epl i want 😛 😝

mostob:
Arteta wey we go soon sack. Thank God, De Zerbi is available.

even potter sef. We only have one fa cup in 6 years of spending billions, and we agitated for major trophy, now he lost the most important trophy in history of football. Sack him jhoor. Now we're only in rubbish epl race, 9 points clear in rubbish trophy and lost this wonderful chance to get a major trophy.
SACK ARTETA NOW!!!

mostob:
na wetin dey muse me pass for here. Hossanah today, nail him tomorrow. They swore the reason we lost the league last season na because the coach no buy striker. Unfortunately, the striker was not fit to make the lineup today.

e no funny you how none of them is talking about striker. Abi the striker dey score 5p goals per match wey we no know?.

Arteta out!!!!!
See, one thing that is fact anywhere in this world and beyond is that, once we lose a game, the fault is 100% on Arteta. And if we win a game, it accolades is only for the players. That's a fact in the heavens and below.
So therefore, Arteta out!!!!.

mostob:
For real?
But when Madueke started against Forest, una tall say the coach dey sabotage the team

why are you acting shocked and surprised?.

I should not really have praised Arteta so soon!!!, i should have waited till season ended to do so. End of the season determines what we should do!!!.
Then wtf are you dragging and insulting Arteta now, why not also wait for the end of the season when he doesn't win anything. the goal is to win a major trophy right!!!, we never lose any major trophy yet!!!. 🏃🏃

mostob:
Be like this one go reach chapter 100 🤣🤣🤣

wetin concern me

Book of lamentations

Coyg!!!!

Shegzdave:
If we win major trophy, you’ll see how those criticizing him will praise him toheavens,

People only remember the victors and not the runner up

We need results(cup) to cancel insult

e go shock you when we win trophies and you no go see those praises and recognition you think would come.

Shegzdave:
Exactly what’s on my mind
Let’s secure this league first before all these shalaye

my initial post wasn't about trophy. I just listed things i found praise worthy about our coach.

Spy360:
When Leicester win the league, Arteta wasn't manager. It was Wenger.

Arteta wasn't even a coach then.

Let him go back to 1865 to look for an example

iamoyindamola:
Bro all these na story
Every team had their own fair share of injuries
All I want is trophies simple, I can even over praise him this season because of our injuries crisis

by April 18th, I expect you to start writing your episode for Arteta.

iamoyindamola:
All the managers I suggested didn't have same financial strength, lost alot of key players and the clubs they managed are third best not even second

na because they couldn't manage the players well.

iamoyindamola:
Did Arteta bottled it or not?
When Leicester won the league they didn't bottle it
Arsenal, spuds and city challenged Leicester for the league
Who have been challenging Arteta for the league? Just one club of and that's city

No one said you shouldn't appreciate Arteta, the way you have your opinion is the same way I have mine too Abi?

this man ehh. i don't know why It's always funny to me when you talk about bottling. Other people can say it and it won't mean anything, but once I see you tupe anything bottling e dey just funny me. Make we just win epl, if you no write episode of praise for Arteta i go know say u get strong mind.

iamoyindamola:
Well slot did it
That's why Arteta is not special, you all defended him and said it wasn't easy defeating Guardiola
Well slot did it by just get Chiesa in his first season he used same squad Klopp left for him.
If he can win a double or treble or quadruple then I can start rating him, he should just win something.
Funny enough I was one of his biggest fans when he won the fa cup I thought he meant serious business

injury damaged us last season, injuries and bad referee decisions or else Liverpool no for smell am. You should know that or you just want avoid that talk.

iamoyindamola:
The competitions we played we ended the season trophy less
You made reference to Chelsea spending and I told you their achievements
I didn't remind you anything, Na you they remind me of the managers we wanted to replace Arteta

Like I said let the sleeping dog lie, he hasn't won anything so far yet let him win first then we can admit he's good or not

all the managers you suggested at some point has regressed so much i don't even remember their names. We're winning epl this season, shebi I don de talk am since. Just wait and see.

iamoyindamola:
You talked about managers now why not mention them yourself
Did Leicester believe they could win the league too and they did it, but Arteta bottled it
If he's a victim of his own success why hasn't he delivered any trophies?
He hasn't started a competition and won it the fa cup sef he met it half way
Una just they put this man for dragging, leave shalaye let him shame us by winning trophies, every true fans badly crave for it and I am sure he does too
Let him win trophies then you can drag me I will accept not now you want to be gas lighting on something that's not 100% here

how can I mention managers when I am telling you he's the best
When Leicester won the league they did with 81 points, do you know how many times we have passed that 81 points and didn't win under Arteta. If I talk now you would say I wan use Apari excuse. But who challenged Leicester. I will always celebrate and praise Arteta for his good works, just as you always want to drag and and discredit him.

BlueRayDick:
I just wasn’t us to have a successful season capped with multiple trophies a then when we at in off season we will have some really extensive discussions on this thread .

We will touch all of the talking point that has been used to criticize this team and call for Arteta’s despite visible progress in the past 3 to 4 years .

I no wan Dey put the cart before the horse , na why I just Dey avoid all those talks about Arteta being a bottler , Arteta wasting money , Arteta being well paid and not showing workings , etc….

I want make results cancel insults first , then we will have some serious fact based discussion in a relaxed atmosphere where nobody will be vexing and using frustration of bad season ending to make their point .

e just sure me say that epl trophy dey come home. Just watch and see, if we win, they would still look am less and tell you it took him 6years and billions to get it. Like say no be money Chelsea, man city, man utd, Liverpool take the win league. Aside from Leicester magic, who can win epl without making some significant spending. Epl sure this season, na then my voice go even loud pass.

iamoyindamola:
Chelsea won conference league and club world cup
I will take those trophies ahead of finishing second and going trophy less
More over, Chelsea have completed football in all aspects
We haven't done that
Just let the sleeping dog lie and celebrate what you feel is an achievement for your coach
What's the point of all this without trophies, Na that one we go endure abi

Arsenal didn't play conference league, and we never played the club world Cup too. This seaon wey Chelsea played ucl wetin happen?. Na me dey celebrate person wey I believe say dey try and you wan remind me say i no suppose celebrate am.