solite3:

where were you commanded to do such?

the same place you were told to ask others to pray for you.

budaatum:
I think you perceive wrong. I was extremely careful with my choice of words!
Besides, that comment quoted Aaronsrod!

my fault for misunderstanding.

nwabekeyi:
my eyes can prove that there is atom

so you can see atoms?

budaatum:

I don't understand how that relates to our discussion.

it seems you were calling him imbecilic because of his 'theistic' comment.

solite3:


it is a command to prayer for one another
James 5:16
Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

we are to pray to God not to anybody or spirit

and we ask Mary to pray for us also.

nwabekeyi:
my eyes could also prove that there's no God

can your eyes prove that there is no atom?

solite3:
why do you direct your prayer to Mary instead of God?
where was it commanded?

the same reason you ask your pastors, family, friends and other people to pray for you.

budaatum:
"One of you", how?

he is an atheist.

nwabekeyi:
its the same thing because you can't prove its not there

it is obviously not there.
my eyes have proved it.

there is no red vase on the counter.

budaatum:

O Lord God I thank you that you made me an atheist or I might have turned out a stupid imbecilic cretin!

that guy is one of you.

statusquoante:


Are you honestly expecting an answer for this question You are actually confusing the use of the word 'founded' in both scenarios I thought you are smart...



Conquests and crusades are as old as mankind. They have nothing to do with "Christian values".

but morality and law is has everything to do with Christian values...

nwabekeyi:
it's same way some people can't see God

it is not the same.

visibility is a necessity for the red vase on the table.
it isn't necessary for a god.

except you would also concede that atoms don't exist because we can't see atoms.

nwabekeyi:
because you can't see it?

yup.

solite3:
so the prayer is to Mary not to God.

more like we pray with her.

solite3:
no hail Mary is addressed to Mary.

to ask her to intercede on our behalf.

solite3:
prayers should be made to God

Catholics make prayers to God.

the red vase isn't there.
there is no red vase on the table.

bloodofthelamb:


I have checked them and did not find anything that support your position.

ok

bloodofthelamb:

What chapter of revelation and where did Jesus gave such hint?

rev5:8
luke15:7

bloodofthelamb:

Where is it written that the saints in heaven intercede for us?

revelations.
Jesus also hinted that those in heaven are aware of what goes on on earth.

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solite3:
hail Mary is a prayer directed to Mary not God. prayers are to be directed to God

what part of the prayer is problematic?

bloodofthelamb:


Mary do not have the ability to hear and respond to prayers in heaven. Neither can She intercede for anyone.

The scripture says we have only one mediator and intercessor who ever liveth to intercede(pray) for his people in heaven, the man Jesus Christ.

who told you she can't hear them?

the saints in heaven intercede on our behalf.

bloodofthelamb:


Ok then.

Hail Mary, full of grace,

the Lord is with you,

blessed are you among women, and

blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus.


Holy Mary, mother of God,

pray for us sinners,

now, and the hour of our death,

amen.

point out the part of the prayer that is problematic.

cc: solite3, doyinbaby.

bloodofthelamb:


This question is irrelevant. The question should be, what is the foundation of the prayer and to whom is it directed to?

I pray different kind of prayer everyday directed to God my Father.

your question is also irrelevant then.

the hail Mary is directed to one who is together in communion with God and Christians to intercede on our behalf.
an intercessory prayer.

bloodofthelamb:


Jesus clearly gave us a guide on how to pray in Luke 11. It is in line with how Jesus taught us to pray.

Directing our prayer and request to the eternal Godhead(Father, Son and Spirit)

where did Paul get the prayer from?

bloodofthelamb:

And what is wrong with the prayer?

Did Jesus ask us to pray the prayer?

bloodofthelamb:


Which one is grace?

the grace of the lord, Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the fellowship of the holy spirit be with us now and forever, amen.

bloodofthelamb:


Did the Lord ask us to pray such? He layed a foundation of prayer for his disciples in Luke 11.

did the Lord ask us to pray the grace?

NobodyKnows:
Pregnant women! Not married women please. Don’t be ridiculous

what are you trying to say?

I don't understand the one of married women and tattoos. how do they affect service?

and if a single woman joins, will she not be allowed to get married eventually?

can't they just grant leave of absence to pregnant women during the heavy stages?

UbiPetrus:
He obviously can't answer that. It makes a mess of his entire argument.

that's why he is hiding under the banner of "silly question".