solite3:
the question should have helped you answer your question.

I asked the question and told you to give a direct answer, yes or no, not a 'question that should have helped me answer my question'.

solite3:
answer this question first is your father only the father of you flesh or spirit?

I asked the question first.

solite3:
we are on the same page bro,
yes Mary was his mother in the flesh but that is where it ended

when your mother gave birth to you, did she give birth to flesh alone or flesh and spirit?

solite3:
Don't compare me to Jesus, Jesus was already in existence before Mary was even born.

yes or no.

did she give birth to you?

EzeIgboNwaChukwu:
shut up there. no one asked u to be sleeping around while you were a teenager.
I blame your poor upbringing cos obviously it's the cause of your promiscuity.
wh0re.

see as you are talking as if they were disvirgined by spirits.

what happens to the men that disvirgin the women?

solite3:
Jesus only connection with Mary was in the flesh apart from that nothing,

a mother gives birth to what originated in her that is the baby. originated from the mother is the flesh.
who is taking about creation?


what I m saying is that the spirit does not originate from the parents but from God it is only the flesh that originates from the parent.
as long as I m in the flesh my mother remains my mother.

that is wrong God was born of a woman in a figurative sense in that Mary bear Jesus physical form because God was already in existence,
yes Mary was a vessel God used in getting his flesh.
Jesus humanity was gotten through Mary not his divine nature.

did your mother give birth to you?

yes or no answer.

solite3:

Mary gave birth to the man Jesus only not his divine nature.
one cannot claim to the father or mother of the child that did not originate from him or her, so you cannot say Mary is the mother of God since God didn't originated from her.

for your question, my mother is not the mother of my spirit after death the relationship of mother and child no longer holds.
she became a mother on earth and on earth it ends.

where was spirit Jesus when Mary was giving birth to flesh Jesus?

where was your spirit when you were in your mother?

giving birth to does not = creating the person.
Mary gave birth to God is not the same as Mary created God.

your mother gave birth to you doesn't mean your mother created you.

God is uncreated and he came into the world through a woman. that means God was born of a woman because, the person through whom you entered the world gave birth to you, and is your mother(not your creator/originator)

don't go if you are not interested in academics.

frank317:


First the goat appeared after it was killed... Then it starts producing honey and milk? Are u kidding me?

There no valid scientific explanation for this... Quote me anywhere.

it was another goat, not the same goat.

the goat could be mutated and be producing something that is like honey in taste but is different from it.

frank317:


Not necessarily whatever they say. But such story above? Common.
Isn't such stories all theism is all about? I dismiss them like yesterday.

what if there is a valid scientific explanation for this phenomenon waiting to be discovered?

frank317:


I take what religious people say with a pinch of salt. History is a biatch.

that's not taking things with a pinch of salt.
what you did is straight up dismissal just becomes it comes from a theist.

it is a form of ad hominem. 'theists are liars, therefore whatever they say must be a lie'.

frank317:


What's there to consider in the frigging story. Did u even read it?

don't atheist claim that most supernatural claims made by theists have a completely logical scientific explanation?

the goat could be mutated and produced something that isn't actually honey but is similar to honey for instance.
the woman coming across the goat could be coincidental.

what happened to being open-minded?

frank317:


U know right?

I'm sure if a religious person tells you about the headless chicken, you'll dismiss it in a heartbeat. just because it came from a religious person.

so much for open-mindedness

frank317:


Ya right... I remember the blue three headed flying sheep that we used to play with as kids.

Don't mind the atheists jare

yeah. just disregard any nature claim as false without considering all the outrageous things that happen in nature. mutation for example.

frank317:


Ya right... I remember the blue three headed flying sheep that we used to play with as kids.

Don't mind the atheists jare

I'm sure you've head of multiple headed animals.

if this story is true, the goat could have a condition that makes it produce a honey substitute. it could be something that tastes like honey but isn't actually honey.

I don't know why the atheists here are quick to debunk without being 'openminded'.

there are things like that in nature.

man produces plant based meat.
there is plant milk.
plant honey...

nature is a freaky place.

there are animals with two heads/cojoined animals, humans with woodlike skin...

this could be one of such cases.

statusquoante:


What Christians are against is a change in the pro Christian status quo. Yet we still give concessions every now and then.

But homosexuality will always be a no no!

Whether you like it or not, Christianity will always run the show until the rapture happens...

OK.

statusquoante:


Sure Obama did which was why Hilary lost...

I said let's stick with Nigeria. Nevertheless, we now have churches in Saudi Arabia.

Infact what we Christians call Islamisation is a change in the status quo to accommodate Islamic tenets. It has never been about Christians being free to be Christians.

so what you are saying is that Christians are protesting Islamic right to be recognized and be free to follow their religion constitutionally. even when it affects them in no way.

you people are problematic.

you don't want people to be free but when you get the same treatment, you are being persecuted.
Christianity is all about freewill, but you fight against freewill.

you fight against homosexuals freewill, now you say that you fight against accommodation of Islamic tenets when both situations are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

OK.

I think I'm done.

statusquoante:


Stop trying to be clever by half.

US under its most anti Christian president (Obama) couldn't limit Christianity to the closet.
All the same, no government in Nigeria can be anti Christian and/or pro gay.

Let's stick with Nigeria.

Obama wasn't trying to limit Christianity to the closet because UNLIKE YOU, he understood what PERSONAL LIBERTY means. he did not force his beliefs on those who don't share them. UNLIKE YOU.


Islamic nations are also anti Christian. will you saying Christianity is not in the closet here?

hope you won't mind if Nigeria becomes an Islamic state.

if no government can be anti Christian, why do people cry against islamisation?

statusquoante:

It can't happen!

OK

statusquoante:


USA has started backtracking since Trump became president.

All the same, I am particular about Nigeria.

so, it shows there can be an anti Christian government before the rapture, disproving your earlier assertion.

I hope you won't mind if an anti Christian government limits Christianity to the closet.

.

statusquoante:

It can't happen jor!

I hope you won't mind when it happens.

statusquoante:


Which country are we talking about here

India, Canada, USA, UK,... are you going to pretend to not know these countries that are legalizing sin?

statusquoante:

How will that be It can't be!

I hope you won't mind when it happens.

statusquoante:

No I don't.

and if it applies to all of Nigeria, you won't cry 'islamisation'.

statusquoante:


Can there ever be an anti Christian government before the rapture

Never!

all the government legalizing homosexuality, abortion and all other 'abominations' are pro Christ right?

statusquoante:


Some states in the north have already done that.

Are you okay now?

I hope you don't have a problem with it.
and you won't have a problem if it applies to all of Nigeria.

statusquoante:


India and Nigeria don't have similar religious and cultural background.

Homosexuality is not alien to Africans. But it has never been something that can be practiced and accepted openly. It must be limited to the closet!

Homosexuals must remain in their closet to be free in this part of the world.

OK.

I hope you won't mind if an anti Christian government limits Christianity to the closet.

statusquoante:


You are wrong.

The state drawing inspiration from its religious and cultural foundation is the one that has criminalised homosexuality and you just have to abide by it.

OK.

I hope you won't mind if the state draws inspiration from Islam and bans pork and alcohol, and enforce hijab.