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People want government leaders they can trust; they are tired of corrupt politicians.

The Bible describes a government whose Leader is completely trustworthy and honest, free from corruption. That government is God’s Kingdom and its Leader is Jesus Christ as stated in Isaiah 9:7.

Jesus has a proven track record of sincere concern for people as stated in Matthew 9:35, 36 which says in part---- "And Jesus set out on a tour of all the cities and villages and ..... On seeing the crowds, he felt pity for them, because they were skinned and thrown about like sheep without a shepherd".

As King of God’s Kingdom, he will deliver justice and peace to all those who accept his leadership according to Psalm 72:12-14.

Many people are concerned about the damage that they believe humans are doing to the earth and the life it supports especially the climate. According to some environmental experts, human actions are threatening animal species with extinction and damaging the biodiversity of the planet as never before. Will humans be allow to continue to bring ruin to this earth? Or will they live in harmony with nature?
The Bible gives us assurance that the future of earth is secure. It explains why human efforts are not enough to save the earth, and it describes the real change that must be made. Jehovah a God created the earth, and he assigned humans the responsibility of caring for it. (Genesis 1:28; 2:15) They could succeed in their assignment only if they looked to their Creator for guidance and obeyed his instructions according to Proverbs 20:24. On their own, humans do not have the ability to care for the earth, and any effort they make will have limited success at best.
God intends to stop humans from ruining the earth according to Revelation 11:18. He will not reform the governments and earthly society that are harming the planet; he will replace them. (Revelation 21:1) For this reason, Jehovah declares: “Look! I am making all things new.”—Revelation 21:5.

Jehovah will replace human governments with a heavenly one called the Kingdom of God. That government, under the leadership of Jesus Christ, will then administer earth’s affairs according to Daniel 2:44 and Matthew 6:10.

God’s Kingdom will educate humans to live by God’s righteous standards. When humans recognize their Creator and heed his guidance, they will be able to live in harmony with the natural world.

The Bible teaches that uncontrolled anger is harmful, both to the person who harbors it and to those around him, according to Proverbs 29:22. Although anger may be justified at times, the Bible says that those who continue to have “fits of anger” will not gain salvation. (Galatians 5:​19-​21) Some questions come to mind. Questions like, Is Anger always wrong? When is Anger wrong? How can you deal with anger?

Is Anger always wrong?

No. Anger may be justified in some cases. For example, the faithful man Nehemiah “became very angry” when he learned that some of his fellow worshippers were being oppressed according to Nehemiah 5:6.
At times, God feels anger. For example, when his ancient people broke their agreement to worship only him and started to serve false gods, “Jehovah’s anger blazed against” them. (Judges 2:​13, 14) Even so, anger is not a dominant aspect of Jehovah God’s personality. His anger is always justified and controlled.​—Exodus 34:6.

When is Anger wrong?

Anger is wrong when it is uncontrolled or unjustified, which is often the case with the anger displayed by imperfect humans. For example, Cain “grew hot with anger” when God rejected his sacrifice. Cain allowed his anger to fester to the point that he murdered his brother.​—Genesis 4:​3-8.

How can you deal with Anger?

First, recognize the danger of uncontrolled anger. Some may think that unleashing their anger is a sign of strength. In reality, someone who cannot control his anger has a serious weakness. “As a city broken through, without a wall, is the man who cannot control his temper.” (Proverbs 25:28; 29:11) On the other hand, when we cultivate the ability to control our anger, we demonstrate true strength and discernment. (Proverbs 14:29) The Bible says: “The one slow to anger is better than a mighty man.”​—Proverbs 16:32.

Also, if possible, take your leave when anger starts to build. “Beginning a fight is like opening a floodgate,” says the Bible. “Before the quarrel breaks out, take your leave.” (Proverbs 17:14) Although it is wise to settle differences with others quickly, both you and the other person may first need to cool down before you can discuss matters calmly.

The rule of “an eye for an eye” was part of God’s Law given by Moses to ancient Israel and was quoted by Jesus in his Sermon on the Mount. (Matthew 5:​38) It meant that when dealing out justice to wrongdoers, the punishment should fit the crime. a

The rule applied to deliberate injurious acts against another person. Regarding a willful offender, the Mosaic Law stated: “Fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, the same sort of injury he inflicted should be inflicted on him.”​—Leviticus 24:20.

The real question is Does it apply to Christians? The clear answer is No, this rule is not binding on Christians. It was part of the Mosaic Law, which Jesus’ sacrificial death abolished.​—Romans 10:4.

Even so, the rule provides insight into God’s way of thinking. For example, it shows that God values justice. (Psalm 89:14) It also reveals his standard of justice​—namely, that wrongdoers should be disciplined “to the proper degree.”​—Jeremiah 30:11.

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In view of man’s misuse of violent force, some may question God’s use of force to destroy his enemies. Some sincere individuals have wondered if God’s use of force is always justified.
History provides no evidence that God ever abused his power. He does not rule by arbitrary force. He wants us to worship him out of love as stated in 1 John 4:19. In fact, God does not use force if there is a just way to avoid it as stated in the following verses --Jeremiah 18:7, 8; 26:3, 13; Ezekiel 18:32; 33:1. And when he chooses to use force, he always gives plenty of warning so that whoever wants to can take corrective steps.For example, when God destroyed the wicked in the Flood, it was after many years of warning. Anyone could have availed himself of the provision of the ark and survived. Only eight did. Are these the actions of an arbitrary, cruel God?
God’s use of force has nothing in common with the unjustifiable abuse of power by humans. Deuteronomy 32:4 says "The Rock, perfect is his activity, For all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness who is never unjust; Righteous and upright is he."
When attempting to understand God’s use of force, we must begin with a basic truth about our position before God. The prophet Isaiah acknowledged at Isaiah 64:8 that“We are the clay, and you are our Potter,”. Obviously, as the Creator of the universe, God can use force in any way he wishes to.
It is Jehovah’s sense of justice and his love for people that will move him to rid the earth of those who abuse power and violently trample on the rights of others. This act of force will establish ideal conditions on the earth for all peace-loving humans who want it. (Psalms 37:10,11).

THROUGHOUT history God has tolerated much badness and outright wickedness. Many individuals are puzzled by God’s permission of wickedness. Do you feel at times that God should hurry up and destroy all wicked people right away? Consider what the Bible says about the limits of God’s tolerance and the reasons for it.
God is patiently tolerating many things that he finds totally unacceptable. Although he hates wickedness, he is temporarily allowing it to continue. There are good reasons for his doing so.
One of the reasons is he allows time for the crucial issues raised by Satan’s rebellion in the garden of Eden to be settled once and for all time. These are issues that center around the rightness and rightfulness of God’s way of ruling.
Another reason is God patient endurance of wrong provides time and opportunity for those involved in badness to change.
However, it would be unloving and unreasonable for God to allow wrongdoing to continue forever. No loving father would endlessly tolerate badness from one of his children who continued deliberately to inflict grievous pain on other family members. Apostle Paul made reference to this at Acts 17:30.31. Jehovah God has outlined a timetable and now is the time for those who continue in badness to repent genuinely and change their ways as stated in Acts 3:19.
In summary, Jehovah God is tolerant but there is a limit. As soon as the limit elapsed, the wicked who remain unrepentant in their ways shall face God's judgement.

Ken4Christ:


Keep up with your deliberate lies. You only quote Scriptures that appears to support your pre conceived opinions while ignoring others that even have more passages.

Hell is real and its not just about bad people going there. Good people also go there. In fact so many good people are in hell.

If you don't accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, you will burn in hell.

And your final destination is the Lake of fire which is far worse than hell. You will swim in that liquid fire for the rest of your life weeping and gnashing your teeth.

Better repent now and stop your deceitful teachings that appeals only to the senses but clearly contradicts the scripture.

First of all, this is a forum and not an insulting, argumentative based discussion. You can present your points without the "toxicity". Secondly, you did not understand my write-up. Please read to understand, next time!
Many people think there is hellfire where people will burn forever which is not accurate and I state the Bible view in my post. Also, I accept your point that good and bad people go to hell. Hell (“Sheol” and “Hades” in the Bible’s original languages) is simply the grave, not a place of fiery torment. Both good people and bad people, according to Job 14:13 and Psalm 9:​17, go there.
Purpose of my post is to inform the propagators of hellfire that there is nothing like that in the Bible and that Jehovah God is a loving God who does not take pleasure in seeing people suffer or burn. These propagators of hellfire belief are probably mistaking it for Gehenna which is eternal destruction for the unrepentant wicked ones.

A feeling of guilt is triggered when we realize that we have hurt someone we care about or when we otherwise fall short of the standards we feel we should live by. If we have done something wrong in the sight of God, and feelings of guilt come over us, it is good because it signals that we are aware of acceptable standards. It shows that we have a working conscience. It will help us not to commit the same wrongdoing.
Proverbs 14:9 says "Fools make fun of guilt, But among the upright, there is a willingness to reconcile.". A guilty conscience can and should move us to confession and other positive action. However, our basic reason for serving Jehovah should always be, not guilt, but love. The Bible assures us that when good people are encouraged with this in mind, they will do all they can. More important, they will be happy doing it.
So feelings of guilt is not all that bad as long as the individual is ready to do his best to stop that wrongdoing.

Righthussle:
I feel Jehovah loves violence .

No, he does not! 1 John 4:8 says God is Love. A loving God cannot love violence,that's why as stated in Bible verses mentioned earlier, he does not like those who are violent.

VIOLENCE is widespread and has many faces. Aside from war, there is sports-related violence such as boxing, wrestling etc gang-related, school-related, and work-related violence as well as violence in movies, films. There is also domestic violence in many families. But how does God feel about violence?
Violence has a long history. The first act of physical violence by a human that is recorded in the Bible is described at Genesis 4:2-15 when Cain killed his brother, Abel. How did God react? The Bible explains that Jehovah God punished Cain severely for taking the life of his brother.
How should Christians conduct themselves in a world that is filled with violence? Christians should avoid association with those who promote or perpetrate violence. Christians are also warned to avoid all forms of uncontrolled anger, even verbal violence, as stated in Ephesians 4:31. Psalms 11:5 says "Jehovah examines the righteous one as well as the wicked one; He hates anyone who loves violence.".
So, it is clear God hates those who promote and practice violence without remorse.

Many Christians turn to God in prayer about their problems and anxieties, certain that he loves and cares for them. Some, however, experience frustration as they wait for their prayers to be answered. Do you feel that your prayers are ineffective? Does God listen when you pray?
Even if our prayers seem to go unanswered, this does not mean that God did not hear them.The Bible assures us at 1 Peter 3:12 that "For the eyes of Jehovah are on the righteous, and his ears listen to their supplication,but the face of Jehovah is against those doing bad things.” So Jehovah God hears the prayers of righteous ones, whether they are spoken audibly or uttered in the heart.
However, prayers must meet certain requirements if they are to be acceptable to God. First, they must be directed exclusively to God​—not to Jesus, to a “saint,” or to an idol. Prayers must also be offered in the name of God’s Son, Jesus Christ as stated in John 14:6.
Prayers must be offered in faith. Hebrews 11:6 says "Moreover, without faith it is impossible to please God well, for whoever approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him." Faith produces actions, and they, in turn, show that we love God and are trying to please him.
Worshipers of God must also be persistent when praying. Luke 11:9,10 says " So I say to you, keep on asking, and it will be given you; keep on seeking, and you will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone asking receives, and everyone seeking finds, and to everyone knocking, it will be opened." After all, if a person prays just once about a matter, does this not indicate that he or she is not really serious about the request?
When all these had been done, we can be sure that our prayers will be heard by God and he will answer in a way we do not expect and in his own time.

In this forum and outside this forum,there is a sense of ethnic hatred among various tribes. How would you feel if you were perceived as a devious, violent, or immoral individual simply because you belong to a certain ethnic group? Surely, you would not be happy about it. Many who held on to such hatred actually profess belief in God and the Bible. And there are those who claim that racism is here to stay​—a part of human nature. What does the Bible say?
The Law, God gave to the Israelites shows that he is not partial. On the contrary, he displays genuine concern for the welfare of all peoples, no matter the nation or tribe. At Leviticus 19:33, 34, we find the following compassionate command from God to the Israelites: “‘If a foreigner resides with you in your land, you must not mistreat him. The foreigner who resides with you should become to you like a native among you; and you must love him as yourself, for you were foreign residents in the land of Egypt. I am Jehovah your God." Obviously, Jehovah who created humans did not justify ethnic hatred. He insisted on ethnic harmony.
Christians in this forum(nairaland) do well to resist the urge to judge or insult others because of their ethnic background. Viewing people as individuals, the way God does, and not just as members of ethnic groups is just and loving. Is that not how YOU want to be viewed? Jesus Christ admonishes us: “All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them.” (Matthew 7:12) Living without ethnic hatred for hausas, Igbos, yorubas or any other ethnic group will results in greater peace of mind and peace with others.

MindHacker9009:
Lying to do good is OK.

Exodus 1
19 The midwives answered Pharaoh, “Hebrew women are not like Egyptian women; they are vigorous and give birth before the midwives arrive.”
20 So God was kind to the midwives and the people increased and became even more numerous.
21 And because the midwives feared God, he gave them families of their own.

Lying to do good is NOT Ok. The example you cited, the midwives did not give a direct answer but deflected the conversation to another direction.

Many men and women especially youths had undergone difficult, even dangerous, procedures in order to alter their natural appearance. Radical forms of body decoration had gained ground. Extensive piercing of body parts—including nipples, noses, tongues, and even genitals—is popular. Is there anything the Bible say about this practice?
Tattooing, piercing, and cutting existed in Bible times. They were most often practiced by pagan nations in connection with their religion. Understandably, Jehovah forbade his people, the Jews, to imitate those pagans as stated in Leviticus 19:28 which says "You must not make cuts in your flesh for a dead person, and you must not make tattoo markings on yourselves. I am Jehovah."
Christians today are not under the Mosaic Law, but it sets out certain principles that Christians must consider before deciding whether to practice body decoration or not. Christians are not completely free to do whatever they like including body decoration because they are still servants of God (1 Peter 2:16.)
An individual who wants to make God happy recognizes that becoming a Christian involves the offering of oneself to God. Our bodies are living sacrifices presented to God for his use. (Romans 12:1) Hence, a Christian do not view his/her body as an exclusive property to be damaged or defaced at will. When this is done, they can let their reasonableness shine before all men.—Philippians 4:5.

Many people think that lying is not wrong if it does not harm anyone. Many believe that there is no real harm in so-called little white lies. Is this true? Are there occasions when Christians may be justified in telling a lie? What does the Bible say?

Psalms 5:6 says "You will destroy those who speak lies. Jehovah detests violent and deceptive people." Proverbs 6:16-19 also makes it clear. It lists seven things that Jehovah detests. “A lying tongue” and “a false witness who lies with every breathe ” are prominently included in this list. Why? Because Jehovah hates the harm lying causes. That is one reason why Jesus called Satan a liar and a manslayer at John 8:44. His lies plunged humanity into misery and death. Apostle Paul told Christians at Colossians 3:9a --Do not lie to one another.

So, it is clear from the Bible verses that God hates lies and will destroy those that lie. Christians should always say the truth,no matter the situation.Of course, being truthful does not mean that we are obligated to divulge all information to anyone who asks it of us. It is better not to say anything or divert the conversation to another direction. Lying can never be justified.

malvisguy212:
being Good is the evidence of your faith. even the pagan can be good and sincere . what matter the most is your relationship with God.

Good works are not what a person must do to be saved.

"But to him that WORKETH NOT, but
believeth on Him that justifieth the
ungodly, his faith is counted for
righteousness" Rom. 4:5

YES, believe in Jesus, your faith will be counted for righteousness

Faith is not enough for one to be saved. It must be accompanied by doing good to others, obeying God's laws etc. James 2:17,20 emphasize that faith without works is dead. James 2:24 says "You see that a man is to be declared righteous by works and not by faith alone."

The proud and assertive are often portrayed as the people to imitate. The humble and meek tend to be seen as feeble, timid. But is genuine humility really a weakness? And is pride actually a strength? What does the Bible say?
First of all, it must be stated that the Bible speaks well of certain forms of pride. For example, Christians should be proud that Jehovah is their God and that he knows them. (Jeremiah 9:24; 2 Thessalonians 1:3, 4) However,pride has a darker side.
One definition of pride is excessive self-esteem. That kind of pride gives one an improper feeling of self-importance and superiority, maybe because of beauty, race, rank, or wealth. The Bible speaks of men being “puffed up with pride.” according to 2 Timothy 3:4. In other words, they have an inflated opinion of themselves, one that is unjustified.
The humble, on the other hand, try to view themselves honestly and objectively, acknowledging their imperfections and their lowly position before God, and also rejoice in the superior qualities they see in others. (1 Peter 5:6;Philippians 2:3) Hence, they do not become bitter with envy or consumed by jealousy in their relations with other people.
God’s Word encourages humility because the lowly in heart readily accept counsel and are a delight to teach. They are happy to adjust their viewpoint when presented with accurate new information. They are unafraid to ask questions, whereas the proud often refrain from doing so, for fear of having their ignorance exposed.
Humility is strength because it moves Christians to always learn and change their ways if they have committed some wrong acts. Pride will make an individual not to accept correction because he/she believes they are always right even when it is wrong in the sight of God.

Many believe that being a good person throughout their life is all that God requires. Others feel sure that even if they commit serious sin, God does not care as long as their overall life pattern is positive. They believe that God is more inclined to forgive than to condemn.

But what does the Bible say? What must we do to have God’s approval? What does it mean to be a good person in God’s eyes?

Revelation 4:11 says "You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honour and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created."
As our Creator, Jehovah God has the right to give us moral direction. In the Bible, God provides laws and principles to guide our conduct and worship. To his people and all humans, God said: "Obey my voice, and do all the things that I command you; and you will become my people and I will be your God.”​—Jeremiah 11:4.

Imagine that you wanted to become someone’s friend. You would naturally want to know how that one prefers to be treated, and then you would act in a way that pleases him or her. So “being good” from God’s viewpoint requires learning what his standards are and adjusting our life to meet them.

“MONEY is for a protection,” says the Bible. (Ecclesiastes 7:12) Because it pays for food, clothing, and shelter, money serves as a protection against the hardships associated with poverty. Indeed, in a material way, money can buy practically anything.
God’s Word encourages us to work hard so that we have the means to provide for ourselves and our families. (1 Timothy 5:8 Honest, hard work rightly brings feelings of satisfaction, dignity, and security.​—Ecclesiastes 3:12, 13.
There is a major danger associated with money. The danger is the love of money, which, usually brings unhappiness. “The love of money is a root of all sorts of injurious things, and by reaching out for this love some have been led astray from the faith and have stabbed themselves all over with many pains,” says 1 Timothy 6:10.
Hence, money lovers ‘stab themselves’ with endless frustration. Moreover, their greed contributes to poor relationships, unhappy family life, and even lack of proper rest. “Sweet is the sleep of the one serving, regardless of whether it is little or much that he eats; but the plenty belonging to the rich one is not permitting him to sleep.” (Ecclesiastes 5:12) Above all, the love of money earns God’s disfavor.​—Job 31:24, 28.
True Christians must especially be on guard because people in general are, as foretold, “lovers of money.” (2 Timothy 3:1, 2) True Christians who remain conscious of their spiritual need are not swept along with this wave of greed, for they possess something far superior to money. What is that? King Solomon added at Ecclesiastes 7:12b that “wisdom is for a protection” because it “preserves alive its owners.” What did he mean? Solomon was here pointing to the wisdom that is based on an accurate knowledge of the Scriptures and on a wholesome fear of God. Superior to money, such godly wisdom can save a person from countless pitfalls in life and even from a premature death.
Thus, in summary, Hebrews 13:5 says "Let your way of life be free of the love of money,while you are content with the present things.For he has said: “I will never leave you, and I will never abandon you.”

WOULD you buy a suit or a dress without first trying it on? Likely not. After all, if you later found that the garment did not fit, you would have wasted your time and money.
Many people apply a similar logic to marriage. They feel that it is better for a man and woman to live together before making a commitment to become husband and wife.
What is the Bible’s viewpoint on this matter? To answer, we first need to consider what God’s Word has to say about the institution of marriage.
At Genesis 2:24, it says "that is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he will stick to his wife, and they will become one flesh." From the beginning, Jehovah purposed that through marriage a man and woman would become “one flesh.”
Granted, some who marry will later divorce. When this occurs, however, it is not because of some lack in the marriage arrangement itself; rather, it is because of the failure of one or both partners to live up to their wedding vows. When a husband and wife maintain their relationship and are determined to work out their problems by applying Bible principles, divorce is far less likely. There is a feeling of security in the marriage because a personal commitment has been made by each partner. Marriage then becomes the basis for a loving relationship.
The Bible’s answer is clear. Paul wrote: “Abstain from fornication.” (1 Thessalonians 4:3) The term “fornication” refers to all sexual relations outside of marriage. That would include sex between a cohabiting couple, even if they intend to get married. Temptations to carry out sexual immorality will be higher and strong if a prospective man and woman live together before getting married. According to the Bible, then, it would be wrong for a couple to live together​—even if their intention was to marry later.
Thus,instead of a man and woman living together and facing temptations or urges to committing sexual immorality before marriage, [/b]it is better one take sufficient time to get to know the person you are considering as a marriage partner aside living together.[b]

HUMANS possess a spiritual need that is as fundamental as the need for food. Many feel that as long as you do something spiritual, it really does not matter what you choose to believe or what form of worship you engage in. What do you think? Does it matter how you satisfy your spiritual need? What does the Bible say?
The Bible identifies an element essential to human spirituality. At 1 Corinthians 2:12-15, it describes a spiritual person as one who receives the spirit that is from God. This spirit is God’s active force, and its operation is a prerequisite to getting to know spiritual things. A person is thus able to examine and understand issues from a spiritual perspective. By contrast, a person lacking God’s spirit is called a physical man, one who considers spiritual things as foolishness. As a result, his conclusions are limited to what human wisdom alone reveals. In fact, those who refuse to be influenced by God’s spirit, choosing instead to pursue their own desires and ungodly things, are described as not having spirituality. They are driven by fleshly appetites and inclinations according to 1 Corinthians 2:14.
True spiritual fulfillment begins with acknowledging Jehovah as the Creator and recognizing that we owe our existence to him. (Revelation 4:11) We thus realize that our life has meaning only to the extent that we do his will. (Psalm 115:1) Doing God’s will provides purpose in life, an aspect of our spiritual need that is as vital as our physical need for food.
Since we are created in God’s image, true spiritual satisfaction also depends on our conforming our personality to his. (Colossians 3:10) By so doing, we avoid conduct that demeans us or that damages our relationships with others. (Ephesians 4:24-32) Choosing to live by Jehovah’s standards elevates our lives and contributes to real peace of mind.
Thus, if we develop a relationship with Jehovah God, seek to do his will, and follow his guidance, we will find the truth behind the Bible’s words: “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need.”​—Matthew 5:3.

WHEN faced with adversity, many people feel that God is punishing them for some past wrong. Overwhelmed by a sudden avalanche of problems, they may be heard to lament: “Why me? What have I done to deserve this?” Should we conclude that our problems are an indication of divine disapproval? Are personal adversities really a punishment from God?
The Bible is filled with accounts of upright individuals who faced personal adversities. Although he was a loyal servant of God, Joseph endured years of unjust imprisonment. (Genesis 39:10-20; 40:15) Even Jesus Christ, who never did wrong, was cruelly mistreated before suffering an agonizing death. (1 Peter 2:21-24). Hence, it is a mistake to conclude that adversity must be an expression of God’s displeasure. But if God is not responsible for adversity, who, if anyone, is?
The Bible identifies Satan as the chief source of our problems today when it states: “Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.” (Revelation 12:12) As “the ruler of this world,” Satan has influenced many to engage in evil acts that have resulted in untold misery and heartache.---Psalm 37:12, 14.
We should not, however, be quick to blame the Devil for every adversity we experience. As a result of inherited sin and imperfection, we are prone to make unwise decisions that can cause us problems. (Psalm 51:5) For example, imagine a man who by choice neither eats properly nor gets sufficient rest. If this eventually leads to serious health problems, should he blame the Devil? No, the man has merely reaped the bitter consequences of his own poor judgment.
Finally, it must be realized that many unpleasant experiences are simply the result of “time and unexpected events.” (Ecclesiastes 9:11) There are some negative situations or conditions that happen to us as a result of bad timing or circumstances beyond our control.
From the foregoing, it is clear that problems or adversities are not punishment from God. Jehovah God has already made the promise at Revelation 21:3,4 that all forms of adversities or problems will soon end in the near future. In the meantime, he shows that he really cares for us by providing “instruction” and “comfort from the Scriptures” so that we can cope with trials now as we look forward to that wonderful future just ahead. (Romans 15:4)

PeaceJoyLove:

That's not what I asked you. Here is it again...

Can you put your head in the table that this truth you are saying is the absolute truth....and that we should chop it off your body should we find a slight error in your analysis?

If you are sure, we can arrange it. You will sign a document that if your analysis is wrong...or if you cannot proof it that your position is the truth after being checked...your head should be chopped off.

If you are sure this analysis of your is absolutely right, I dear you to put your head on the table. Guy, I will be the one to chop it off with an axe. Can you?

I have cited/quoted Bible verses supporting the view that Bad people do not literally burn in hell but are destroyed, if totally unrepentant of their wrongdoings. If you have a contrary view, you can quote or cite Bible verses. It's a discussion.

redcliff:


The soul never dies! Humans have a soul, spirit and body, just as scientist call it, mind, body and soul. That soul is what will burn in hell. The bible refers to that process as death because there is nothing about it that shows you are alive. Stop trying to translate the bible literally otherwise, you will be lost

This is not science discussion but a religious discussion! You need to support your stance with Bible verses that clearly says human souls never die.

PeaceJoyLove:


Can you boldly say it clearly that this position of yours is absolutely the truth? And can you put your head on the table that if we probe it further and it is untrue, we should chop it off? Can you?

Yes it is true! Bible verses are cited/quoted in the write-up to support this.

enilove:


Your flesh will decay but the soul will burn in hell for eternity :

Psalm 9:17 KJV
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Well, as someone said,look at other translations of that verse. It's the Grave.

Kobojunkie:
Is the first death a temporary kind of death or what?

The statement in bold is pretty vague. According to Jesus Christ, one must be born-again in order to gain access to the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hell(eternal damnation) are domained in. Unbelievers have no part in Heaven or Hell.

Yes, the first death is temporary but the second death is permanent ( no resurrection from it).

The first death is due to sin inherited from Adam, according to Romans 5:12.

According to the Bible the sin-atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ makes possible “a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” (Acts 24:15) The Bible foretells that those who return from the dead during the millennial reign of Christ will undergo a period of “judgment” that will afford them opportunity to gain eternal life. (John 5:25, 28,29) But gaining a favorable judgment will require that persons repent and turn around from their former evil ways, according to Acts 3:19.

Individuals who do not feel sorry for their sins against God, and who are unwilling to bring their lives into conformity with God’s righteous standards will experience the second death and permanent this time.

Many religions teach that bad people will burn in hell. But is that the will of God? What does the Bible say about this?

According to the Bible, God created the first human pair perfect. (Genesis 1:27) He placed them in a paradise garden and gave them the opportunity to live forever. However, the first humans, Adam and Eve, had one restriction--not to eat from a certain tree. They disobey and reap the deadly consequence of death.

Had Adam and Eve been in danger of burning in hell, would not God have warned them about such a punishment? The fact is that he(God) mentioned nothing about suffering after death. How could they suffer? They did not have immortal souls that would survive after death. The Bible makes this very clear at Ezekiel 18:4 which says in part--"The soul who sins is the one who will die."

As the Giver of life, our Creator knows all there is to know about life and death. He tells us in his Word that “the dead know nothing at all, ” (Ecclesiastes 9:5). That is why Adam and Eve could not suffer in a fiery hell after their death. They simply returned to the dust and ceased to exist. They "know nothing at all.”

So, then, is it reasonable to believe that people suffer in hellfire for their sins, when Adam, the one who brought death upon the entire human race, simply became dust after dying?​ If both good and bad people die and nobody experiences suffering after death, what is the final punishment for those who continually do bad things without remorse?

Anyone who refuses to conform to God’s laws will be punished with “the second death.” as stated in Revelation 21:8. This is the death from which they will never awake.

So it is clear from what the Bible says, that bad people who continually commit willful bad acts without remorse will not burn in hell but will be destroyed.

DO YOU see religion as a force for love and peace or for hatred and violence? Today many see it as the latter, especially when religion is fused with politics, ethnicity, or nationalism.
A true Christian should follow what Jesus says at Mathew 5:44,45--"However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you, so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous."
Also, another servant of God says at Romans 12:20,21-- “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink "
When Jesus was on earth, on the night of his unjust arrest by armed opponents, Jesus showed love for his enemies. In fact, he healed one of his captors, whom the apostle Peter had struck with a sword.
So, as seen from what the Bible says and the actions of Jesus Christ, It is possible to love your enemies,even the worst ones.