tdayof: Gambia crisis: Ecowas 'could send troops' if Jammeh refuses to go
Military intervention in The Gambia is "possible" if President Yahya Jammeh does not step down after having lost elections, the head of the West African regional bloc Ecowas has said.
Henry240: You don't mount a CIWS on a patrol boat. If that happens, we would be the first in the world to do so. All modern Corvettes and above come with a CIWS as a standard defensive suite.
thought this is a missile boat but its of almost similar size with our newly commissioned boat.
nemesis2u: soory at first i thought u were asking about rcws , later realized u meant ciws.
it is a good idea , depending on the requirements . since ciws has been implemented in land systems already for dual role of anti air and anti ground.
installing a ciws means hull penetration will be necessary , but the psychological effect of a high volume fire weapon will deter all pirates , and other light/medium caliber armed combatants etc
added benefit of anti air protection
some sort of tweating will be required to reduce the rate of fire , so as to conserve ammo and prolong barrel life , i actually like the idea .
why i like the idea 1.deterrent effect 2.even with a small time window of 1 second u will be able to pump out 500+ rounds and then scoot (run) 3.everybody wants to be cremated / buried with atleast some part of his body intact , so psychological effect is high here.
ak630 calibre 30mm, range 4km, rate of fire 5,000 rounds per minute all these r good figures for a weapon if fitted onto a patrol boat
will just need trigger discipline
tnx mate that was my point.
@henry if we don't have d capacity we improvise. we need to invest in ciws cause Cameroon our next door neighbour are equipped with ththe C-series anti ship missile.
Henry240: Denel produces no CIWS. The infrastructure simply isn't there to support it. CIWS is an air defence system, although with a manual override it can be used as an area defence weapon. However it is not designed to be used that way.
The best gun for what you're trying to achieve, Area Defence and Air Defence is the BAE systems 40mm naval gun. It's a very beautiful weapon system. Rapid rate of fire et al.
I also like the South-Korean concept, adding a guided rocket artillery system to boats of that class.
nemesis2u: edit : i thought u was asking about RCWS , sorry
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Tnx mate dats wot am asking about.
@ henry,i tnk it will be good for efficiency and accuracy.
@ nemesis ,do your defence industry have any of such
chimere66: APC supporters in Rivers state have staged a solidarity rally for Nigerian police.According to them, full investigation into the bribery audio tape indicting Governor Wike should be carried out.They were pictured with various placards with many inscriptions like 'bloodthirsty Wike on the prowl again' and more.
Hon Asita and other APC leaders used the avenue to hand over the audio tape of leaked Wike tape to the police
chiefobdk: The suffering and smiling of lagosians. . Used to live in festac. . The suffer wey dey lagos ehh.... Dem go dey form like say lagos special. . No good road. No light. . Wicked giant mosquitoes. Traffic from hell.
juman: You make me laugh. Russia is only in syria to strengthen president assad. Nothing else. Palmyra was "given back" to isis by russia/assad some days ago. They did that to make a point.
In my own view, the syrians themselves are big fools. Why do they allow the international politics kill hundreds of thousands of their people. And their country utterly destroyed. All countries involved in syria issue are just after their selfish gains.
I believe its also Russia and Assad that started the Arab spring that turned unsuccessful in syria
bidexiii: @ IbnSultaan his a junk and how it's not hard to tell that the guy just hates PMB. Well d only advice I av for u is to hug a transformer....
How can someone say PMB hasn't buy a single bullet; what about all the airforce procurement that's on there way, 1st the junk guy said it's all a lie, thank God we av seeing the Mushshak, when the other start arriving I'll know how to deal.with such junk, till then all fingers are crossed.
In the army there are still some few new hardware and more to come.
I talk trash,I talk junk.
who that help. even the mushshak is a renegotiated deal from the last Adminstration.
IbnSultaan: you love making stupid comments Current Govt has provided political n financial support to GEJ indigenous n foreign (contemporary) defence assessment needs acquisition. Defence acquisition for these Govt is important and necessary to protect Nigerians.
come you uncircumcised idiot mind your lane.must my comment tally with yours.
I gave you and bidexii chance in his thread so free me.
let PMB invest in the military,since his coming to power not even a single bullet did he get for the military.
he has submitted 2017 defence budget while one doesn't know what he did with that of 2016.
so if you don't like my comment just jump and pass.
Henry240: I made this comment on the 3rd of december. My Navy source was right on the money.
I followed the Karaduwa project right from inception to today, commissioning into fleet. NNS Karaduwa clearly represents my highlight of this years military activity.
With official commissioning of NNS Karaduwa, Nigeria has shown she is significantly self sufficient in building vessels which are 60 meters in length and below. We can now look to adding more vessels of this size to our fleet, while we look at exporting to draw in income. There is significant market for exports, we can and shall make money.
The Navy has now gone ahead with building a larger vessel, hopefully we don't have to wait long to see her completed unlike the Andoni or Karaduwa. In 3 years time, we could be looking at building Corvette sized ships 65 meters and above.
With the commissioning of additional 27 Epenal 8.5 meters boats, we have totally eliminated the need to import Inshore Patrol Crafts, unlike in 2006 when 500 IPCs were procured from foreign vendors. Progress!!
Onward Together!
congrats to the navy,
as they launch this crafts from the last administration of GEJ, let PMB government surprise we Nigerian with a more vigorous approach to equip our military.
bumi10: TV host and OAP, Frank Edoho and his wife, Sandra have welcomed their second child, a baby boy in the U.S. They had their first child (another boy) in 2014. Frank is blessed with 3 children from his previous marriage to Katherine Obiang while Sandra has a child from a previous relationship.
Frank is well know in his MTN show of "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire"
PapiNigga: Move over Yoruba Demons , the German Machines are here to stay...
These are lovely photos taken from the traditional wedding ceremony of the Princess of Isoko Land in Delta state (Omote Kovie) and her German Boo last weekend...
Odunayaw: I tell you...that IVM vehicle is d best bet...both single cabin and double cabin models hell Proforce could rig up a SF recon vehicle from it
I totally agree with you, 100 of each vehicle wouldn't be too great to ask.
we need more of this in the North east. if possible proforce can up amour the IVM military pick up and if possible add a v-hull underbelly to the vehicle
Talk2Bella: Everyone is faceless and not important until they become popular or pass away, then we wish and gnash our teeth and lament on how nice we should have been to them, how we should have known them more and tried to be friends, this was exactly how I felt when the death of Asuquo Ukeme was confirmed in NYSC orientation camp.
It started as a rumor, a corps member died in a hospital in the capital of Zamfara state {Gusau}, he was in platoon so so so and so, we whispered it to ourselves, someone had just died in Kano camp, we asked ourselves what was happening? and immediately we began to bind the spirit of death out of the camp but it was too late as the next day it was confirmed that yes indeed a corps member had died, he died and left a grieving family behind.
Do I know exactly what really killed Asuquo? All we were told in camp was “he complained of body weakness and when they couldn’t diagnose or treat him in the camp clinic he was transferred to Gusau where he started defecating uncontrollably till he gave up”
Could his death have been avoided? This is not for me to say, I cannot question the Christian God, he giveth and taketh and all things pleaseth him be it good or bad, Asuquo according to rumors was a first class graduate, he was the shining light in his family, he was the torch bearer who would lift his family out of poverty and yet life was snuffed out of him just like that.
The doctors and nurses at the camp clinic will definitely try their best, after all we are all corpers, we need to fake an illness so we can be redeployed or sent home and so they tend to pay less attention to those who come in with unexplainable illnesses, they write a prescription and when you go to the pharmacy they don’t have it you’re advised to go to “Mami” and “PAY” to get it.
I have a lot of complaints but I am a patriotic Nigerian, I will not wash the dirty linings of my country for others to laugh at, I will only say my bit and see if the government will do something about it. Why would NYSC put the lives of corpers in the hands of doctor corpers who just recently graduated? Don’t get me wrong, these doctors volunteered to be there, but they need experienced personnel on ground for emergencies, they need medical equipments for emergencies, they need surgical materials for medical emergencies they need stable light in the clinic, clean environment and professionals to handle cases corper doctors can’t handle.
Did you know a corps member who was seven months pregnant miscarried? Oh such sights I saw, mighty lumps of blood everywhere, oh please don’t ask me why she wasn’t redeployed immediately, I know what I know but won’t say I am still a serving corps member but all I will say is “She didn’t look pregnant and she was unmarried”
Why’s there a camp clinic if it’s not for emergencies? Poor woman had to be rushed to the capital for proper medical care; I will not play the game of what if, but what if there were proper medical equipments to treat her in camp would the baby have survived? What if she really looked pregnant would she have been redeployed? What if she was married does it mean she would have gotten instant redeployment and her baby would be alive today? But I am a patriotic Nigerian so I will not play the game of “What If”
Don’t blame camp officials, they work with what they are given, do I need to complain about the Food? Toilet? Hostels? And security, we slept with our eyes open, we were robbed how many times, oh and please don’t say indigenes did it they are untouchable it’s our fellow corpers who did it, robbed us in our sleep, we saw and couldn’t move our bodies, our lips were heavy and our throats patched, if you didn’t believe in African voodoo now will be a good time to do so because I experienced it firsthand.
I heard 700 Naira is allocated to each corper for feeding and yet our soup on camp is a reflection of our faces, is it the beans which would make you purge or the rice which look and tasted like “just eat and belleful” but the meat was okay, fear for my stomach didn’t let me eat one day in camp, I have many complaints but I am a patriotic Nigerian and refuse to let others laugh at my country.
What should I say about the cold? This cannot be explained but experienced because no amount of explanation can paint a mental picture of how cold Zamfara is and what the cold does to our bodies. Why is Bella home while her peers are in camp? Bella couldn’t cope, the cold paralyzed her muscles and for days she couldn’t walk, well you all remember what I said about “Unexplainable Illnesses” I had to be sent home and applied for redeployment.
You wake us up at 4am, send us into the cold with nothing but our shorts and whites and our Khaki shirt and ask us to pray and do parade, do we look like we have been to “ICELAND” before? I do not want the NYSC scheme to be abolished, I made some great friends and families there, but I want our lives to matter, you don’t take a riverine fish out of the river and expect it to survive in the ocean, you don’t take a wild animal out of the forest and try to domesticate it in a park, I haven’t had an asthma attack in years but my second day in camp I came close to having an attack.
NYSC scheme need to be rebranded and restructured, we are still working with the 1973 brochure, children of nowadays are like “Agege Bread” soaked in water we are not strong, I saw a lot of things in camp but I am a patriotic Nigerian, I will say what needs to be said “camp officials tried their best”
Asuquo shouldn’t have smelled death in the next 70 years or so, the corper who died in Kano should be planning her wedding very soon, but both Asuquo and the corps member in Kano had one thing in common”NYSC” his parents couldn’t even afford to bring his body home, “NYSC” paid for the body to be taken back to Porthacourt “Oh death you shouldn’t have taken this one”
I cannot say rest in peace to Asuquo
I cannot say rest in peace to the corper who died in Kano
I cannot say rest in peace to the baby who was never born
Henry240: We would not forcefully seek regime change in Gambia. That's not a Nigerian diplomatic route. We would offer the Gambian leader a place in Calabar if things escalate, but then again i don't see that happening.
There would be no force deployed in Gambia. This isn't an option on the table.
If there are concrete evidences of Western interferences like Jammeh claims, he would present the evidence to the Presidents of Nigeria, SLR, Liberia and Ghana.
Let us see how diplomacy plays out. However for a fact, I don't believe Nigeria would allow a forceful regime change in Gambia. It's not the right option to take.
dialogue is the way,but if jammeh prove stubborn then let get prepared for ECOMOG 2.0
IbnSultaan: Is the ECOWAS standby force in Abj still active, will the be deployed to Gambia if the need arise
. standby force? ECOMOG is better
pls just inform the CoAS to get ready to deploy 1 brigade. the only problem i see is transportation of men and hardwares.
Senegal ,ivory coast , Niger can contribute 1 battalion each
Liberia ,Togo, Benin ,cape Verde,Guinea, Sierra Leone and Guinea Bissau can all contribute atleast 1or 2 company each. then Ghana can come with their engineering company.. (sentry duties)
Mali and Burkina Faso are exempted due to their own security struggles.
for me west Africa don't really need the standby force we have always had one
BlackBaron: Doubt up to 4000. From equipment captured, it showed very little defence of the city. Seems like the main bulk of the army got deployed elsewhere and left less experienced (paramilitary) numbers in Palmyra. Besides, small numbers of Tiger Forces were also in Palmyra when terrorists attacked. In another way, it also shows the poor quality of troops in many Arab units, once an enemy attacks, they peel away only for another counter attack to recapture previously captured areas by others which costs more lives.
Most likely after Aleppo, Desert hawks, Tiger forces and the mix of the proscribed terror groups fighting for Assad would have to be redeployed there.
the Syrian army is over stretched, and above all Palmyra is more or less not an important town apart from the T4 tiyas air base near it
chiozo: please what is the difference between chemistry education and chemistry and can a b.sc in chemistry education work elsewhere apart from the school, also can he do his masters in courses like industrial chem,chem Engr. etc
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 5:46pm On Dec 16, 2016
