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Ogatitus:
Yea,finally i think the movie is coming alive. Nemesis surely catching up with someone in Kingslanding. But walahi this king too weak. Imagine say na Jeffrey make i hear say person wan lock up im wife.

Theon is rily a lost cause, but am still anticipating a radical twist in the prognostic outcome of his story line.

I still think Lord Commander Snow is wrong going for the wildlings. I wonder what will have become of castle black upon his return.

Stannis is surely heading for another defeat unless he stops listening to that evil woman. Imagine asking him to kill his daughter.. for wetin na.

Tyrion Lannister & Khalesi.. what a sumptuous combination.

But hold on, i thought Ser Jorah had that terrible skin disease?

Tommen is weak and a child. It's not fair to judge him by geoffrey's standard. But I trust joffrey. That mum high Sept guy abi Wetn be him name head for don cut since

You mean reek? Theon is dead.

I think snow is doing the right thing. It's either the wildlings join the army of the living or the army of the dead.

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Kaycee7:
For a man to have sex, an erect penis is involved. For a woman to have sex, a wet vagina is involved. A man can't have sex if the penis is not erect and a woman will find penetration painful if not wet. If she doesn't want to have sex, forcing her to have sex will result in serious pains for her. This is equal to wife battering. And if you do care about ur wife, I don't think u wld force sex on her. Nuff said.

We both know what lubricants are for. If she isn't getting wet, then lube the 4k out of your d1ck and most condoms are lubed up already. Anyway, this is not about me, this is about sansa and Ramsey so don't bring me and my future wife into this.

Episode 7 is out so no more rape arguments. Our opinions don't matter anyway

Csami:
Well for those of you talking about marriage and s€x, take it to family or sexuality section.

For those who agreed that sansa was raped, ok she was and for those that disagreed, no she wasn't.

For those that have read the book and hate where the series is heading to, you can stop watching and wait for book 6 & 7.

For those screaming that the show is becoming boring, find a lively show and stop complaining.

I'm tired of hearing people whining. If you don't like the show anymore, quit watching!

Truer words have never been said. Spot on bro

Dgunnerz:
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Search for date and download. Or the parent site mobiletvshows.net

ntyce:
The act was definitely rape, who would want her sister to go through same horrific experience.
Even the wiki page of Game of Thrones called it Rape.
So I don't understand it when pple think otherwise.

Strawman's argument. Because I wouldn't want my sis to go through it doesn't mean it is rape.

Game of thrones wiki page was edited by a human being like you and me, it wasn't put there by a supreme being. Why is that persons opinion superior to ours? Because it is on the internet?

Gbola5:
Hey i like Stannis. I believe he's a king Westeros needs right now. Nevermind Varys' gentler than Stannis speech #goodguyvarysmyas s.

High 5

hertz9te:
okay then physically she wasnt against it...but emotionally she was.....so call it emotional rape.....rape is rape no matter the form

Lol. What kind of joke is this?

xboyelyusuf:
Can't wait for Stannis to enter Winterfell...,Surprisingly, Lord Stannis is my most favourite actor...Love his humourless, stern and grim nature ....looking forward the ep7.,The Gift.

You are the first person here that roots for Stannis. I thought I was alone..

#StannisTheManis bro

Episode 7 should come and wash away all these arguments since most people don't want to see reason.

Kaycee7:
Please Sir, doesn't that also mean that a woman who doesn't want to have sex can't have sex?

A woman that doesn't want to have sex can have sex. That is why female rape is recognised but male rape hardly is. For your d1ck to stand, you need the right state of mind and you can't be in it if you don't want to but the same cannot be said for females (they can do it if they want to or not). A limp d1ck can't 4k no b1tches.


Back to the point, "I don't feel like" is a reasonable reason for a wife not to have sex (even tho she doesn't need to "feel like" to just open her legs)but when it spans for a few weeks maybe months, it becomes an unreasonable reason. But being in pains or whatever is a reasonable reason.

But in the case of sansa, "I am a virgin " is not a reasonable reason.

Gbola5:
Is there still argument about this ?. I think the thing that people are bothered about isnt that she was raped(or not raped however you see it) but that her losing her virginity is like a plot device.

Jon snow's virginity, sam's sexuality were all used as plot devices. I don't hear anybody complaining about all that.

People are just complaining because the show runners are deviating from the books and they don't like it. They don't like it because they won't be able to rub it in anyone's face anymore about how superior they are because they have read the books.

They think George Martins way is the only good way to tell a story and that it is the holy grail so any thing added or removed from it is an abomination.

kay9:
And how did that argument turn out?
Your statements in italics above is oozing with so much ignorance. Do yourself a favor, google "marital rape".

Do yourself a favour and apply common sense.

Marital rape is not a crime in nigeria (check the listed countries on the Wikipedia page). I said I argued with a law student. Obviously a Nigerian law student.

Marital rape is not recognised in many countries and nigeria is one of them. There is something called conjugal rights in marriage which is a right to sex. And like I said in a previous post (probably the one you quoted but you edited it), a wife cannot deny her husband of sex for an unreasonable reason. He can force her to so far he doesn't apply extreme force in which case he will be charged with assault.

That scene showed us what sansa has "grown" to become. It was not meant to show her as a victim but to show how she has evolved from the scared girl who's daddy was murdered in Winterfell to the strong girl who will do whatever it takes to get her way.

Kaycee7:
So the man can't deny the woman sex when she wants, as well? Or does it, as usual,apply only to d woman?

It applies both ways but you being a guy knows that a man that doesn't want to have sex, cannot have sex. Well, unless he takes viagra or something but that's besides the point.

Sansa is just doing whatever it takes to have her revenge or whatever. That is one of the reasons I think she wasn't raped. She knowingly walked into that herself knowing fully well what was required of her.

Also, marriage is a contract and sex comes with the package. A woman cannot deny her husband sexual relations unreasonably. She has to honor the agreement.

Please let us end this argument and move on.

Gbola5:
Marital rape is still rape. Even though they did at at the time(and its not ancient, its medieval times). But its still considered rape whether they're married or not. But Dany started to develop from there, it became part of her development story in the show. Sansa's was unneccessary, it doesnt mean that she will also develop from there also. She's always the victim, and part of her character growth was to stop being the victim and take charge. She had gone through pain enough, she didnt need this as another booster. They were already showing signs of this in s4, when she walks down the stairs in the Eyrie, when she was looking confident, and now she becomes a victim again. Ofcourse she will grow from here, as most of you use to defend the scene, but rape shouldnt be the catalyst, no more than the death of her family.

Good luck arguing that in court. You marry a woman and she doesn't want to have sex with you, you can force her to because by law, she signed a contract (marriage) and must honor the agreement. I have argued this with a law student before.

Also, she is not a victim anymore. She is doing whatever it takes to further her agenda (whatever it may be). This is one of the reasons why I say she wasn't raped.

Let me clarify a bit, a wife has no legal right to starve her husband of sex for an unreasonable reason e.g am a virgin (like sansa). And also, the man must not apply extreme force else he will be charged for battering (still not rape).

blublahd:
that is incomparable to this. If the raping of sansa makes a more intriguing plot, am unfazed. I think there wont be any outcry if it had followed the books, cause speculation is,such occurence were just for entertainment rather than delivering a score point.

you think? I suggest you put your ears closer to the ground.

Dude, you are making it sound as if the message of the scene was "Women are nothing to mean and should be treated like shyte". The movie is about ancient times, these things happened in ancient times.

What do you think would happen when a savage being (ramsey) wants to have sex? He is an animal and that is what they showed, nothing more. Really, if you are reading more to the scene then you should check yourself.

themodernman:
You didn't notice Myrcella has grown to look so beautiful.

I was too busy getting frustrated by the poor acting.

Honestly, the dornish scenes have been below par.. bad actors, bad dialogue and bad shooting. Apart from oberyn's wife and the prince of Dorne, the other actors are shyte.

The sand snakes were the worst. They are like kindergarten actors. And the fight scene was horrible. Even the guy tried tho.

Gbola5:
But here Sansa is taken against
her will(brutally) in way that’s likely (and
disgustingly) customary for arranged
marriages in this setting, it's the same for Dany, but to say Dany got over it, Sansa will doesnt make sense.

That's all it was, rough sex. She knew this was on the table when she signed up. She was a virgin and Ramsey didn't go easy on her.

kay9:
But bro, if it was not "love making", then what was it?

Rough sex. They are not in love so it can't be called "LOVE making"

hertz9te:
the sex or rape was really emotional,cos sansa was crying.....haba that girl infuriates me with all that her soft acts(team arya)
i was expecting theon to do something,like stick a knife in ramsay....that scene was a bit fast paced,,,,n with the camera focusing on theons emotions....i hoped for a sec,,,tha he will snap...........i think i will be highly dissappointed

Couldn't have said it better bro...team arya

Gbola5:
Dude it was a rape.

It wasn't. By custom, man must bed wife night of marriage. She knew this and still agreed to marry him so by extension agreed to have sex with him later on.

It was not rape.

Jamie and cerci sex scene beside geoffrey's corpse is a better rape debate than this.

themodernman:
Granma Tyrell always looking helpless when whipped but I trust she's up to something too...episode 7 waiting!

She might confess to killing geoffrey and rub it in cerci's face. That would be epic.

blublahd:
a trend i thought i was the only one who observed it
even Dany....the central protagonist of the series wasnt spared.
Kind of condescends her queen status to me.
Doggy for that matter.
I am yet to hear from the feminists tho

It's a movie about ancient times... what do you expect? When Hollywood made a movie of slavery, why didn't you say they were being racists? The writers have done nothing wrong. They were being historically accurate. You won't be hearing from the feminists because they understand this.

Gbola5:
It didnt really have to be a rape. The series has become fond of showing these rape scenes that only signify how women are these weak things that men can dominate. Really it didnt have to be a rape.

Firstly, it wasn't rape.

Secondly, that's how those times were. Men were savages and women were victims. So, the writers are just being historically accurate.

Thirdly, it wasn't rape.

ApexTitan:
Joffery wouldn't have done any better, that one was a coward too, he never proved himself with his wit or intelligence. All he did was prey on those he imagined were weak.

I rewatched that Cersei and Little Finger discussion last night. LF is the master of glibness! The way he laid out his plan before Cersei was just brilliant (in an evil kind of way), the luring yet confident tone of his voice, the way he pronounced each word, his cool and collected carriage. And amidst it all he still showed his wit. That was a real display of high value, the guy has perfected the art of deception. I know that's how he usually is but I was especially struck by his performance this time.

That's the thing... he might even be deceiving cerci too. That guy is a sly bastard

Come on guys, why pity her? That wasn't raped, is that not what man and wife does? She should have known it was going to happen when she let LF marry her to ramsay. Maybe I am biased because I don't like her. She is not strong like arya.

Theon should snap out of it already

The sand snakes are the worst actors on this show so far... they are like children who just started acting yesterday and that fight scene was boooooooring

Arya....iloveyou

Mr eko repping naija...cock merchant

I can't wait to see what granma tyrell will do to cerci...

Winter is here

Gbola5:
"Im Sansa Stark of Winterfell, this is my home, and you can't frighten me"
Few minutes later she gets raped. They just keep making her a victim. Loved the Arya scenes, atleast those are still true.

Lol. She wasn't raped per say. But she would have known it is what was going to happen when she agreed to marry Ramsey. That's why I said earlier that she will end up getting played.

If she cannot be "no one", I wonder what she is going to be (don't tell me, it's a rhetorical question).

Gbola5:
So y'all stop trying na justify it, it was a crime, and cowardly.

Lol. Seriously man, I didn't say it wasn't a crime or cowardly. I said Robb had it coming. There is a difference.

Gbola5:
That was South of the wall, his vows dont stop him from going North when he knows what's north.

Yes they do. They stop him from abandoning his NIGHTS WATCH duty. Bran is not his nights watch duty the last time I checked.

Great episode. I was hoping reek would snap out of it and stab Ramsey with a fork.

C0ck merchant (Mr eko from lost) lol

Great to see arya once again

I never knew lord commander mormmont was Jorah's daddy hmm

The sand snakes fight scene was really boring

Cerci na bad guy

Gbola5:
His dedication to the watch doesnt stop him from going beyond the wall, to look for Bran. The red wedding because it just happened and we arent shown the consequences of it.

Uhm yes it does. What part of DUTY do you not understand? He didn't go afternoon Robb or his dad for the same reason.

The show is not over, they will still show the "consequences" of the red wedding.