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OkCornel:
If I have told this Heavenly Father is the same deity Jesus spoke and preached about...then what is the need for this question again?

Or are you implying Jesus was preaching about another deity?

If you know better than Jesus, then tell us God's name...

Is Heavenly Father a name of a deiry?

Are you doing this deliberately or, is Emma right in calling you a pretender?

WTH? Abeg stop quoting me.

budaatum:
I don't know. Is it?

Really? You are not ready to have a discussion, so, i will allow you be.

Shalom.

Mujtahida:
Hahahaha hahahaha. I am light my guy. I do not get my light from someone else. I myself I am THE LIGHT because I carry the consciousness of God in me.

You mean you carry him who pretends to be the angel of light?

Again, you wish.

Mujtahida:
The Almighty God is the ignorance of men. As in Man's ignorance = Almighty God.

Hahahahahahahahaha. You wish. Take your frustration somewhere else pls. Your energy is too dark.

Go away.

OkCornel:
To the Jews and the Christians...God Almighty is YHWH...

To the Muslims...God Almighty is Allah...

But Christians tell the Muslims Allah is not God Almighty...

And I wonder if the Muslims see God Almighty as YHWH...

The funny thing I have found though... is if a Christian were to be born and bred in a Muslim home... he/she would see Allah as Almighty God...
And if the Muslim were to be born in a Christian home... he/she would see YHWH as Almighty God...


What counts at the end of the day is having an encounter with God Almighty... He is TRUTH, and lies can never survive His presence...

Good luck at finding out His real name.... it is beyond the tongues of men...


He only comes down to our level of tongues and languages to reveal Himself...and because of the differences in our tongues, languages and background....we are now fighting ourselves to know His true name...

If you want to stick to the Hebrew versions of His name and force it down the throat of every language and tribe... best of luck...


Jesus gave a name which is simple and straight forward and that name is Heavenly Father. I suggest everyone sticks to this...

OkCornel:
To the Jews and the Christians...God Almighty is YHWH...

To the Muslims...God Almighty is Allah...

But Christians tell the Muslims Allah is not God Almighty...

And I wonder if the Muslims see God Almighty as YHWH...

How did this got into this Op? So you are done making a case for Anu, now it's Allah? See? Evasiveness.

OkCornel:
And I wonder if the Muslims see God Almighty as YHWH...Lolzzzz, go easy make you no use stone crack your balls by yaself. U just accused the Christians of not
accepting Allah as Almighty God, i think now you ahd find out if the muslims sees YHWH as Almighty God.

Earlier on this thread, you were told that the only way you can identify these deities is by what they do, their actions, without which, all of them will be one entity, but you obviously want all of them to be one, so, you refuse to identify them by their names.

Something is in the offing.

[quote author=OkCornel post=65792516]The funny thing I have found though... is if a Christian were to be born and bred in a Muslim home... he/she would see Allah as Almighty God...
And if the Muslim were to be born in a Christian home... he/she would see YHWH as Almighty God...[/color]

And it has not occurred to you that many who are born in the Islamic strongholds who are now Christians do not see Allah as the Amighty God and vise versa. What do you say to that?

OkCornel:
b]What counts at the end of the day is having an encounter with God Almighty... He is TRUTH, and lies can never survive His presence...[/b]

Good luck at finding out His real name.... it is beyond the tongues of men...
In other words, you don't subscribe to the name that He Himself gave to Moses to be identified by?

Why am i even having this discussion with you?
[quote author=OkCornel post=65792516]He only comes down to our level of tongues and languages to reveal Himself...and because of the differences in our tongues, languages and background....we are now fighting ourselves to know His true name...

If you want to stick to the Hebrew versions of His name and force it down the throat of every language and tribe... best of luck...


Jesus gave a name which is simple and straight forward and that name is Heavenly Father. I suggest everyone sticks to this...

Is Allah Heavenly Father to the Muslims? Call a muslim as ask him if allah is his father, then come back and tell me.

budaatum:
None of the above. He is revealed in a book written in English!

Is YAHWEH an English word?

OkCornel:
God revealed Himself to Moses as YHWH...

Has God revealed Himself to you? If yes...what name did He call Himself? was it a Hebrew or Jewish or Yoruba or Arabic name He identified Himself by?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. What a waste.

OkCornel:
First things first...

How have I been evasive?

Two - What does God call Himself? I have told you that is a million dollar question...however, I would stick to the name Jesus called Him which is

HEAVENLY FATHER


I hope this answer is clear, straightforward and not evasive

See the evasiveness? Is 'Heavenly Father' a nomenclature?

Is this 'Heavenly Father' the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob or some other deity?

MuttleyLaff:
https://gifyu.com/images/steadylaugh.gif

Sir, una try for this guy sha

MuttleyLaff:
Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons

True.

OkCornel:
The million dollar question...

Do we stick to the Hebrew names for the A

[quote author=OkCornel post=65792087]Do we stick to the Hebrew names for the Almighty God?

Or does He have a name that goes beyond the Hebrew Language?

Which is your God? The God of Israel who is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? If Yes, He told Moses that His name is Jehovah. And He said He is the Almighty God. But, since OtemAtum says there's a God Almighty who is not Jehovah, what then is his name?

OkCornel:
Same goes for the adversary called Satan (in the Bible & the Holy Jewish books)...

Same what goes for satan the adversary? What brought satan into this matter now?

Pls sir, I'd rather you dont bring that leg of 'God is too big to be given a name' with me. I don't have the patience these other folks have with you. You are very evasive. A question is asked, you'd abandone it and jump to something else.


What does the Almighty God calls himself?

MuttleyLaff:
Thank you for this question, ojaare
1/ Who, out of Anu, Enlil, Olorun, Eshu, Yahweh and Allah, is this, known as, Almighty God?
2/ Who, out of Anu, Enlil, Olorun, Eshu, Yahweh and Allah, calls Himself, God Almighty, also written as El Shaddai?

orisa37, you didnt at all, give any understanding and insights to the meaning of "Olodumare".
You, just waffled and made no attempt at explaining, or breaking down, whatever the meaning of "Olodumare" is

These people make empty noises. If you attempt to hold them down, they run.

Ifeness ran. Orisa ran. Where is OtemAtum? You guys shd come out and tell us more about this your beliefs.

Ikebesupa:
... Extra ordinary things like what please?

Like actual sustainable miracles that are benficial to the well being of men. Not just words. Asin, most seers see but have no solutions to your problems. But God sent prophet profer solutions to lasts.

deebrain:
They are almost the same. And they almost always manifested in the person called a prophet.

Prophets however, did not always have to see before they spoke. They were prompted to. Spiritual forces that motivated them to speak, gave backing to their words. Seers had to see first and only told you what they saw like reporters. He necessarily might not have any power to do extraordinary things like the prophet could do.

Very correct.

Let me add that, in addition to what you have said, as much as they are almost the same, but there are still ways to differentiates them, and their sources matters.

The prophetics doesnt, i mean godly prophetics does not deal with divinations ans enchantments, but Seers do. Seers are mostly Soothsayers or Fortune tellers.

There's the spirit of divinations and the spirit of Prophesy.

The spirit of divination deals with spiritualsm/spiritism, while the spirit of prophecy deals with spirituality.

How you know their sources is Gain. Spiritism/spiritualism is done for gain. As in, if they are consulted, you pay for their services. But the prophetic is freely you recieve, freely give

Cases in point

1. Divination/ enchantments/ Spiritsm = Soothsaying---Balaam Numbers chapters 22, 23,and.24.
Balak paid him handsomely to lay a curse on the Israelites.

Prophet Elisha and Naaman the Leprous General. In 2Kings 5. After being healed by the prophet, Naaman presented gifts, the prophet declined.

In the New Testament. In Acts 16:16, a slave girl with the Spirit if divination/Sorcery made good money for her owners by her Seeing/ Soothsaying until Paul cast the demon out of her.

Again, in Acts 8:9 a certian man called Simon was also a seer using divination, he made gain for his work.

But Apostle Paul did so much without collecting a dime from anyone.

Today in our society, be careful about Prophets (So called) who demands for gains from you. They are sorcerers.

OtemAtum:
Anu is just one of the beings made by God Almighty, same as Enlil, Olorun, Eshu, Yahweh, Allah who are all made by God Almighty.

Who is the Almighty God? I mean he calls himself.

frank317:
The are actually working to make him feel bad. Read the op again.


What do u consider insult? U walk up to me and tell me to believe in God or burn in hell and i say no, God does not exist? Is it what u call insult?
U sensitivity is the issue here. Its unfortunate that u dont understand my position. U want me to hold ur God dear to my heart like u hence u expect me to act in certain ways when God is mentioned. Breaking news: its not possible... God is just a false ideaa to me so when i talk about God see me as someone who does not care. Hence u should see my view as insult and i shouldnt see urs as insult. So no need for anyone to relegate anyone.


I wasnt the one who wrote the bible u believe in. The bible says turn the other chick. If u claim u are a bleiever, i expect u to act that way. U cant eat ur cake and have it. U cant justify claiming to be a believer anf acting like an unbleiever.


Do u even know what it means to be a Christian? U quickly accept u are a Christianbut u are not ready to carry the cross. Why then are u wastin both our time? Like i said, ur sensitivity is the issue here. Why get angry when u know i sont care? Why get hurt and act unchristian when ur belief is challenged? Why claim to be a christian when u cant take the heat.
My advise... join athiest and release ur soul from this burden i cannot bear.


The should feel bad when people regate him for airing his views. He never claimed to be a Christian who will turn the other chick and love ur enemy. The question is why will christians feel bad and relagete him when they claim they are holy meek, kind, loving, joyous, patient, good, gentle. U want to be called a Christian but u dont want to be a Christian.


How is this supposed ro change anything? Should christians succumb to tests because its coming from satan?


Do u know the meaning of resist? Does it mean... get angry, relegateand hate? Are u even a christian?


U are missing the point... loving ur enemy does not mean u should relegate and make them feel bad


When u relagete and hate them and make them feel bad u are habouring loving thoughts?


Loving enemy does not mean u should hate and relegate them either



Here u are supporting fellow christians who instead doing this, they are doing the opposite.


Someone does not believe in ur God now he wants u dead? Like i said u have sensitivity issues. Stop sayin another thingand doing another thing. U dont love ur neibour by relegating and hating them... all u have typed above is not what the chriatians in the op did. Stop prerending and trying to justify unchristian acts.



U cant be two faced bro... if the bible instructs i to love ir enemies and u relegate and hate them like the chriatians in the op did.. u have failed and hell is waiting for u

What is Love?

ScienceWatch:
The biggest mistake atheists make is when they believe true Christians are pushovers.

Wherever they see the words, God and Jesus, they convulse with pain then proceed to attack innocent loving believers.

I LOVE JESUS !!

I LOVE JESUS.

I expected that OtemAtum will be here siezing this opportunity to teach men about Anu he so much talks about.

Where are all the Anunnaki believers?

Where is Johnnydon who advoctes seriously for the Epic of Gilgamesh, even though he claims he is an atheiat?

frank317:
Does it also mean thatbu should segregate them, look at them with hatred and allegations and make them feel bad? I mean, thats what i get from the op. The christians him are making him feel worst because he objects to their God idea. They neglect all u have written up here and do the opposite.

No, we don't work to make them feel bad, but we are not in charge of the state of their mines, we can't influence how they feel.

If we shd live together then we shd respect each others views. Not you insulting mine but expecting me to just keep you around me doing nothing about it. Even Jesus said, If your own hand causes you to sin, cut it off.

You are making it seem like, only atheists have the right to their feelings and the Christians must abide by what the atheists wants them to do. When i relegate you, you'd feel bad, but you are poised on doing what shd make me avoid you, yet you expect that because i'm a Christian i shd just keep accepting you.

This soumds satanic to me. You know that this thing hurts me, but you won't stop doing it. You keep hurting me, and you know my continuous association with you will bring about strife as a result of your actions. you know as a Christian, i shouldn't live in strife, but you insist. When i relegate you you get angry.

Why shd the Op feel bad for being avoided? Does he want to delibrately keep hurting the Christians or make them angry thereby sin?

frank317:
Isn't this a kind of test for the christians too?

No, God does not test His Children with evil. Satan does.

Jesus says, resist the devil and he will flee from you. We don't see satan, just like we don't see God, but we see their manifestations emanateing from the people that have subjected themselves to be used by them. Anyone you stirs up anger in another person has an evil spirit dwelling in them. Keep them off. If he is hungry feed him, but don't give him access into you, because he will poison you. Sheep does not play with wolves.

frank317:
Is this what loving ur enemy is? Wven though i dont consider the an inch to their enemy he ia getting more than an enemy deserves.

You're missing the whole point. Loving my enemy doesn't mean allowing your enemy access into to your inner most thoughts. He is still your enemy, undeestand that. That you love him doesn't he will love you back and not harm you.

Loving my enemy means, i don't harbour any ill towards him in my heart.

Loving my enemy mean, i don't avenge what he does or has done agsisnt me.

Loving my enemy means, i give to him help when he needs it. I don't walk pass him because he walka pass me in my needs.

Loving my enemy means, i forgive him all he has done against me and pray that God delivers him from the devil.

Loving my enemy means, i can give him my last meal and go hungry even when i know he can uae what i give to him against me.

BUT...

LOVING MY ENEMY DOES NOT MEAN, I SHOULD EAT FROM THE SAME PLATE WITH THEM, they still hate me and wants me dead.

Jesus said LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF, HE didn't say Love your neighbours more than you love yourself.

Remember you have to stay alive in other to love(?)

frank317:
My conclusion... all.these Christians have failed the test...

Sir, your conclusion is very irrlevant in this matter. You are in no position to give orders to another man's servant. His master has ordered him on what to do and how to do it, you don't come in miarepresenting the madter with an attempt to mislead the servants.

Love ia giving, you can give without loving, but you can't love without giving. That is why we give you our time letting you know your fate if you remain rebellious, but you insults us, yet still wants us to keep you close.

No, the Lord did not say we shd keep your company. Crying about it won't change.

Bad company corrupts good manners.

I see people who claim to be christians before insulting Christ here, how did it happen? Wrong association with the sons of perdition in Nairaland.

This forum was raised by the Seed of satan to bring souls down, but his reward awaits him.

CuteMadridista:
Actually, you didn't "ask", you concluded he insulted your imaginary friend. Big Difference! and when I asked you why you made that conclusion you said he should post the screenshots
what you just did is make a conclusion based on assumption and then turn around to ask for evidence. only someone with failure in logical thinking could've committed such a bizarre and embarrassing gaffe

Also OP never called the WhatsApp members his "Friends", that's another assumption on your part, I belong to several WhatsApp groups and I can say that in a group of hundreds, I can only call 2-3 members my "Friends", most would be strangers and many would be people I know but can't categorise as "Friends"

Its obvious who lacks common sense here


Actually I do but I don't care if my father is called that on a faceless forum by people who don't know him nor me and when the intention is to get under my skin. THIS is called maturity, something you (apparently) lack

Now if I claim my dad is everywhere, all powerful and all knowing as you claim your imaginary friend is, then I don't need to get angry or react in a particular way when some people insult him as my dad would've done the reaction himself if he wanted but it seems your all powerful god that's everywhere and knows all relies on you to react on his behalf. something doesn't tally

If your god is as powerful as you claim it is, then you shouldn't be reacting that way. only a god that resides in your head would make you feel an insult to it is an insult to you

Lmao! "a man who can insult your imaginary friend can kill another human without a thought"

Tell us exactly how you feel

Edit: I think it would be a honour for someone that makes conclusion on assumptions and adds words when no assumption is there to avoid my monicker. I'm one of the dumbest Nairalanders and I actually feel insecure when I meet people dumber than me

Didn't read and will never read anything you post. You are dangerous. Worst than a murderer.

budaatum:
No, not quite. But as God supposedly so loved the world that he didn't wait for you all to go begging but allegedly sent him from heaven in the first place.

Yet He didn't impose Himself on anyone, so that no one will àccuse Him of being taken against his Will, He placed an invitation. 'Come unto me all ye who labour and are heavy laden, and i will give you rest'.

budaatum:
Sounds like one must be very weak and fearful if one has to avoid you least your leaven rub off and pollute one. That would indeed be the case if ones leaven were built on the sort of foundation the winds and the rains could wash away.

With a solid foundation, you could go into their homes, say a joyful "Good morning", keep their company and actually ask them what help you may offer them today, instead of waiting for them to come begging.

Theirs all sorts, I guess.

Just like you saw Jesus going into people's homes and asking them how he could be of help to them abi?

We will do as we are taught, not as the world thinks we shd do. Everyone who needed Jesus asked for His help. People came out to Him not the other way round.

Till today, you need anything from Him? You come and ask.

Nothing you'll say will invalidate this scripture...
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
Psalm:1:1

The Lord says 'Come out from amongst them', You are saying 'Go in unto them'. That sounds opposite to me, and opposites has been satans language.

CuteMadridista:
That we cab agree on


So you assumed, without evidence, that he must've insulted your imaginary Jesus and when challenged you're now asking for evidence? shouldn't it be that you get the evidence first and the conclusion afterwards in cases like this? that's common sense lol

To what end

I agree with you you're mistaken if you think all these would get some reaction from me, I've heard worse

Maybe you she go back and read. I asked what he said to make his friends shun him. And maybe your common sense (If you have any) shd tell you that for his friends who had been his friends before this episode will shun him, he must insulted their God, but since you don't mind people calling your father a worthless peraon, you won't see it as anything.

Well, that's you. Some of us takes it seriously and will avoid your company to keep from encounters.

Besides, a man who can insult God can kill another human without a thought. I will not think twice to avoid your moniker even in here. You are dangerous.

kullozone:
So what does "love your enemies" mean naw?

To ignore their greeting, stop patronizing them, looking at them like aliens and gossiping about them, right?

Hahahahahahahaha. It means if they need anything from you or you see they have a need, give it to them regarless of what they are. But don't keep their company for their leaven can rub on you and pollut you.

frank317:
Show me an instance i insulted anyone... this is what i mean when i say religious people lose confidence aroubd me. Lol.. u wish i was bragging right? Will that make u feel good?
Them never born that Christian way go relegate me because i am not a Christian. I am yet to see. I am too much for them all even jesus.
I walk with my head and shoulders high. Jesus is too small for me to lose confidence for.
Imagine... how can somoene who belief in imaginary being and ancient books even try to relegate me... watin the person smoke?

With all the bragging, you registered your moniker since 2008, yet yoh couldn't hold down a real and consistent discussion with anyone religious or irrlegious? Why? Could that be because they you empty?


Move along Mr Braggard.

frank317:
Show me an instance i insulted anyone... this is what i mean when i say religious people lose confidence aroubd me. Lol.. u wish i was bragging right? Will that make u feel good?
Them never born that Christian way go relegate me because i am not a Christian. I am yet to see. I am too much for them all even jesus.
I walk with my head and shoulders high. Jesus is too small for me to lose confidence for.
Imagine... how can somoene who belief in imaginary being and ancient books even try to relegate me... watin the person smoke?

Hahahahahahahahaa. Braggards are cowards.

CuteMadridista:
Who insulted you?

and if your entity is as powerful as you say it is and it holds coolusername's life, why does he rely on you and other humans to talk and do everything on its behalf? seems that entity is as manmade as it could be

I curious, where did OP say he insulted Jesus?

that notwithstanding, there's a difference between insulting imaginary friends and insulting real friends. I want to believe most atheists here who insult imaginary Jesus, Yahweh, Vishnu, Allah, Olodumare etc don't go about insulting people's parents

CuteMadridista:
and if your entity is as powerful as you say it is and it holds coolusername's life, why does he rely on you and other humans to talk and do everything on its behalf? seems that entity is as manmade as it could be

Don't worry ehn, He is powerless.

CuteMadridista:
I curious, where did OP say he insulted Jesus?

Ask him to screen grap his discussion over there and post it here lets see why his folks are avoiding him.

CuteMadridista:
that notwithstanding, there's a difference between insulting imaginary friends and insulting real friends. I want to believe most atheists here who insult imaginary Jesus, Yahweh, Vishnu, Allah, Olodumare etc don't go about insulting people's parents

But your father is imaginary to me. Prove to me your exists.

As far as am concerned he is imaginary. In fact, it is not human but a thing. I useless nonentity who is worth nothing.

dalaman:
Will you shut up your lying mouth. So you believe it when scientist tell you that snakes once had legs but refuse to believe when the same scientist tell you that humans evolved from ancient hominids because it disagrees with the Jewish mythology written inside the bible abi?

The writers of the bible did NOT tell you that snakes were crawling on their limbs before they started crawling on their bellies. They could be flying, it wasn't stated you are just using your empty assumptions as usual.

Can you not make your points without insults?
Lolzzz. Atheists and their way. Why amni supprised?

frank317:
I have a domineering and seemingly focused personality... the story for me is the other way round. Religeous folks feel stupid around me. They are scared of arguing with me... can they even afford not being friends with me? I am both fun and interesting to be with.

I meet someone for the first time and he is dissapointed I am an atheist, but he quickly gets over it and only promise to pray for me... sometime they leave with "i am sure God will touch your heart one day" and I reply "I am waiting"

my friends and family dont have the confidence to relegate me, I am confidence itself... how can u use what I have against me.

Even Jesus de fear me

This is what you tell yourself to feel good about your life because, although, i have not had a discussion with you, but i have watched you fall flat on your face and resort to insults during a discussion here.

Hahahahahahahahahaha. Pls stop the bragging.

kullozone:
These guys are shameless. Even the god they worship accepts sinners with open hands(according to them sha), but just take a look at their comments. They've filled themselves up with hatred and wickedness... And they still have the guts to call other people hypocrites.
Lol very funny and confused set of humans

So, you expect us to keep keeping your comapny as you continue to insult our God abi?

If i insult your dad here and now, won't you take it out on me? Or because He is Spirit He is less a Father like yours?

Boy, if you have bad manners, expect people to avoid you.

CoolUsername:
They are so happy to see an atheist down on his luck.

But what can i possinly do if he has decided his fate as you rightly say ''his luck?'

I am not happy that you'll eventually burn in hellfire if you remian obstinate and in rejection of the offer of eternal life by Christ. That's why i'm here warning you while you insult me and scorn at the very one who holds your life.

I can only warn you, but can't accept the offer on your behalf.

If i'm permitted to see souls burn in hell in eternity, it will break my heart eternally, but i wouldn't have a way of changing things.

Besides, if the Op can insult Jesus with reckless abandon, what will he not say about my earthly father? Shd i keep company of a man with such manners? No sir, perish the thought.

butterflylion:
I concur.

God bless you sir. Good morning.