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Trinity is a concept that say, there are three being that makes up God. It's a concept anyway.

When we talk about God in the Christians perspective, We look majorly at God The Father(Agidigba), God The Son(Yeshua, the unborn Jesus or Jesus), and God The Holy Ghost (the Holy Spirit)

Many have had issues interpreting their personalities and how they come to play in relation to specific verses.

So I did my research on the topic, I have always wanted to. But there was no leading, even dropping this, I was led to. And I believe, I will be doing much justice to the issue surrounding the GodHead

adepeter2027:
It's clearly stated in the Bible that the ways of god ain't the ways of man, which infers that, we can't fathom or understand god.

This now posit a question which goes as thus

If we can't understand god, or his ways ain't our ways, how then can we be sure that we pleasing him or acting according to his will.

Just incase many still it difficult to understand the message I'm trying to pass across, I'm gonna give an analogy to explain myself better.

I'm a master/teacher, a follower of mine asked me to explain something to him. I responded by saying "I don't actually understand the question or I can't a,nswer the question".
"Miraculously" and "magically", I find myself explaining something I have no clue about. On what scale will such follower of mine agree to my solution.?

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

1Cor 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

odabo

I'm done here

Create a thread, I promise we might have 100 page

originakalokalo, I remember you thread back then

alBHAGDADI, come and drop your blessing on my thread

Moreso, If Adam could speak and tell the angels the name of creatures, it stands to say that Adam saw the Spirit realm, then Adam must have had a spirit that can relate with spiritual things

also notice why you must be born again

[quran 2:36] But Satan caused them to slip from it, and ,caused them to depart the state they were in. We said, "Go down, some of you enemies of one another. And you will have residence on earth, and enjoyment for a while."

Notice the fact it said, the state, also notice Adam thought the angels, so Adam was a god in a sense, except he eat from the tree of wrongdoing

My point now is, if Adam had a spirit, and the Spirit has died seeing from v36 that it says the fall has caused you to depart from a state (spiritual). It stands to say, washing of hands and other form of worship can not cause that spiritual state to come back.

The Bible said, God is a Spirit, and they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

So, it's a Spiritually conscious being that can serve a spiritual God. Iron and wood doesn't sharpen each other, no, Iron and iron does, Spirit and Spirit does, being born again is getting a new Spirit and no one can give you or restore to the nature Adam was in in the garden but Jesus.

Jesus was born of a spirit, died as a spirit and defeated the devil, so the nature that pleases God can be given to us. Man is subject to death, anyone that dies without this nature of Man as it were being restored back will be an offense to God.

I pray that God heals you, Spirit soul and body that you might see the Light, Shalom(peace)

[quote author=africpost=62298599]may Allah be merciful to Issa[/quote]I ran into this on a thread, and I feel this guy will listen to what I have to say, together with Iamgenius and other Muslim folks

I don't know who Issa is, but if that Issa is Jesus, you guys are wrong at all point

Lemme ask, in Quran 2:34-35, a phrase termed "We" was used, can you explain who the "We" is referring to, noting that v34 used the Word, we command the Angels to Worship Man, so it can never be referring to Angels, so cage yourself

[Quran Chapter 2]

34. And We said to the angels, "Bow down to Adam." They bowed down, except for Satan. He refused, was arrogant, and was one of the disbelievers.

35. We said, "O Adam, inhabit the Garden, you and your spouse, and eat from it freely as you please, but do not approach this tree, lest you become wrongdoers."

I won't say, Jesus is part of the We, I won't use the quran to proof that. At least we is a collective term, which does mean one

But the Bible in John 1:1 and Gen 1:26 addressed that

Jesus was with God when God wanted to create man.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Notice the term, let us

second

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Word (Jesus) was with God

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Dada, Jesus is the Word made flesh, Jesus was with God in the beginning before creation, Jesus is part is of the Us, Jesus is part of the We.

I know you are stubborn, so, just flex your nerves

Anyway, Jesus saves

africansunite:
may Allah be merciful to Issa

I don't know who Issa is, but if that Issa is Jesus, you are wrong

Lemme ask, in Quran 2:34-35, a phrase termed "We" was used, can you explain who the "We" is referring to, noting that v34 used the Word, we command the Angels to Worship Man, so it can never be referring to Angels, so cage yourself

I won't say, Jesus is part of the We, I won't use the quran to proof that.

But the Bible in John 1:1 and Gen 1:26 addressed that

Jesus was with God when God wanted to create man.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Notice the term, let us

second

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Word (Jesus) was with God

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Dada, Jesus is the Word made flesh, Jesus was with God in the beginning before creation, Jesus is part is of the Us, Jesus is part of the We.

I know you are stubborn, so, just flex your nerves

Anyway, Jesus saves

They are not any course

They are doing it ignorantly in unbelief

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

1 Timothy 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

Though, their ignorance won't stop them from being damn

John 3:16, whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, whosoever does not believe in Him will perish. Very simple.

The mercy for ignorance is here on earth, when they die, the Word of God that can not lie take over

damosky12:
Tithe differs from giving in the new testament. Tithe, as part of the law, is a commandment. Its a MUST. That's why you call it a debt. You pay it.

Jesus paid all our debts in the new testament. The new testament man is called to liberty. 2Cor 3:17, Galatians 2:4, 5:1, 5:13.

The New Testament giving isn't fixed or under compulsion. It is done freely and at any percent, whether 5% or 90%. 2Corinth 9:6-7.

ok

damosky12:
My brother, the epistles will never mean today what it never meant when it was written. Hebrews 7 only aimed at revealing Jesus as an high priest forever just as Melchizedek.
The reference to tithing was not one that teach on the need to tithe but to show how that Levi is "lesser" than this Melchizedek in that he paid tithe in Abraham (verse 5-10).
The reference was just in passing.

Giving is clearly taught all through the epistles. But tithing isn't.

We can give 10%, 20%, 30% or more of our earnings but not as tithe. Just giving.

Hmmmm, well, Kenneth Copeland pays 90 percent of tithe

I think that will be all

MhisTahrah:
Since God is not broke and does not need the money.Why do pastors emphasize tithing then?Perhaps,for their own selfish interests.

Why do we pay tax, is it to enrich the government or cater for government needs?

anyway, case closed

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You are delivered in Jesus name

Whaoooo, I think this thing is evolution anyway.
God bless Nigeria
Something must sha trend. Boko don taya people, newspaper must sell anyway

8. Those who hate mission works and don't want to sponsor the proclamation of the gospel

Zechariah 1:17 Cry yet, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; My cities through prosperity shall yet be spread abroad; and the LORD shall yet comfort Zion, and shall yet choose Jerusalem.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations;, and then shall the end come.

The city is the Kingdom of God in case you care to know

Bonnke is currently in Nigeria, all those directly or indirectly working on site will receive something, fuelling, logistics and many works would be done on site. Truth be told, #50 and #20 for offering won't pay that mans plane ticket to and fro. Well, pay or watch missionaries and churches with evangelist in different countries like Iran and Afghanistan withdraw their evangelist, because the grace movement said, we are under grace and need not tithe

MhisTahrah:
No 8, The ones who don't want to keep the pastorpreneurs in business.

`I'm paying to God'?? Then let God come down from wherever he is and collect the money directly.

I am not a puppet,can't risk enriching a pastor at my expense.

hmmmm, let God come down, did God tell you He's broke and need the money you can't give your pastor, and who do you think pastors represent in the first place

Bros, Jesus is our Melchizedek

If Jesus is our Melchizedek, and Paul said, Abraham paid tithe to Melchizedek who was not an offspring of the Levite. Does that abolish tithing considering all we know about Melchizedek is, Melchizedek received tithe

cc Hebrews 7

Some will sing.. ‘shake bum bum’, ‘oya roll your waist’, ‘baby pull over’, ‘I want your body on my bed’ and they are living large. But one fellow didn’t see it necessary to advise his so called “Sheeples” to stop using their hard earned money to buy such songs or attend such shows.
Many pastors left their jobs due to the demand of ministry. And like I said a day or two ago, even in the Bible a woman built a house for a Prophet. So, a Pastor is not a license to suffer. God called you to bless people, and it’s only a fool that you will bless and wont look for a way to bless you too.
Anyway, a life coach, Allison Bisongs Hyacintho, has weighed in on the ‘mess’ created by OAP Freeze with regards to Tithe and Offering and how pastors should live or not live. Read what he wrote below: When you go to church today and feel the AC blowing through your wig into your skull, know that you are eating out of your tithe.
…when the bass guitarists, the keyboardist and other guys on the drums are delivering some good music during praise and you’re dancing everywhere and removing your coat, uncle they pay those guys working for God, know that you are eating out of your tithe.
… Most Sundays you don’t go to church because you depend on nepa to iron your cloths, it is the same thing in the house of God, we don’t depend on NEPA to power the church, we pay for fuel and diesel, so when you go to church today and enjoy uninterrupted worship, know that you are eating out of your tithe.
… If you go to church to charge your phones and you grudge about tithe, well, your case is different.
… When we invite Pst Nathaniel Bassey to lead you in worship to our God, it is not his trumpet he will eat when he goes back home after ushering the Holy Ghost into your life with his ministration, it is not halleluyah challenge his landlord will eat, we give them minister’s gifts to support the work God is also doing through them, it is the meat that you have stored in God’s house that we use to feed them.
So when Travis Greene comes from the UK to raise the roof in praise and worship dance very well because it is your tithe.
…Who deserves to live in lekki? The pastor that feeds you daily with God’s word or Timaya that adds nothing to your Christian faith? Who deserves to drive the best cars? Your pastor glorifying God or Iyanya winning waist with half- n*de ladies?
One witch somewhere will just be vexing for nothing that we are giving to advance the kingdom, you grudge when asked to donate to a church project, you grudge when asked to pay tithe. You think it’s your squeezed 50 Naira that makes you comfortable in worship at church? Witches campaigning for people not to pay tithe to God when they cheerfully pay Millions for a table for 5 at AY shows. Witches!!!

subtlemee:
I asked a simply question that needed a simple answer and you are judging me is that Godly

Okay, I didn't reply you based on the thread

Don't think so.

In a sense, I prefer seeing ladies dress decently I mean modesty.

Lemme ask, is NL helping your spiritual life, that's what I was trying to point out.

Nothing more, like NL get your cloth dirty every now and then until people start announcing their unbelieve.

Lemme do a small litmus test, do you believe in tithe

subtlemee:
How about soldiers of Scotland that wears skirt and traditional elders that tie wrappers

NL seem to have tout you so much of logic

Lemme just say, NL seems to take God away from many this days

Guess what, I just caught a guilty fish

Tyrabarbara:
welcome development for them to have introduced that dressing mode.

Lemme ask this question
When last did you dress this way to church, just asking

Do they dress like this everyday @hati13
I think, all I see is religion

1 Tim2:8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

In every situation, praise God

Pray

Glory