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NigerDeltan:


Show me a G.O that does not accumulate wealth for ghimself, show me one without a bank account balance worth N500m and above

All of them benefitted from the missionary schools but today they can't on their own subsidize education for the poor followers, building universities that charge as high as 500,000 per semester

Apart from TB Joshua non has done anything visible to help those at the IDP camp

everything that are done, doesn't need be announced

Matthew 6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

The above verse relates to where Jesus was telling the Pharisee of their overemphasis on tithing and giving I guess

And Jesus is saying, there are better things to lay or place emphasis on.

People need to be born again

people need to know God intimately

people need to know how loving and caring God, is.

but, you have left those which you should place more emphasis on, but you lay more emphasis on that which is of least importance.

Now, don't get me wrong, the fact, Jesus said, some are weightier, does not mean, others should be trashed out, it only mean, we shouldn't put more emphasis on them, even though they are needed

nairanaira12:
Please do. And don't bring Malachi o. Malachi ask Israelites to give tithe to levites and your pastors are not levites. So, look for another lie to justify this spiritual error of tithe.

Tithe is generally known as a means God ordained to provide for the levite

Abraham was not under any law when he paid tithe to Melchizedek, he had the leading and directive to pay, and he did

Tithing is not an error, thank you

Pataricatering:
Op , where is the scriptural backing for pastor collecting tithe in money ? Daddyfreeze has given his own backing abi you people are no more following Bible ?

There is, lemme Check

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salvation101:
No matter what, the Church will stand.
Talk is cheap. The same freeze guy that is always on social media advising pastors on what to do with church money was posted his pics with hushpuppi in dubai nd dey were flaunting their rolex wristwatches.. Wat happened to all his sermons? Why not sell d watch or use the money h spent to travel on the poor people around him? Now isn't it obvious dat this ppl are simply out to tarnish the image of these men of God? The gates of hell are fighting, Christians be wise so u don't end up joining the devil to fight the Church of God

hmmmm

by the way

Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

The above verse relates to where Jesus was telling the Pharisee of their overemphasis on tithing and giving I guess

And Jesus is saying, there are better things to lay or place emphasis on.

People need to be born again

people need to know God intimately

people need to know how loving and caring God, is.

but, you have left those which you should place more emphasis on, but you lay more emphasis on that which is of least importance.

Now, don't get me wrong, the fact, Jesus said, some are weightier, does not mean, others should be trashed out, it only mean, we shouldn't put more emphasis on them, even though they are needed

Whether Sunday or Tuesday

Our worship to God is not to be judged by a special day

What God is interested in, is the inward man

1 Peter 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

The inward man is the reason for Christianity and the coming of Christ. That all men be save

1 Timothy 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

goodmanjustice:
Warning!, this article is not for lazy people, it is way too long.
Testimony, I read it from start to finish.
Advice, read it with the greatest level of objectivity.


The Tithe is Illegal
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/TheTitheisIllegal.html

cc@ lalastala, only if you'l do the needful.

Stop this rubbish

delugajackson:
Yeah, right.
I'm sure you're a fan.

No more

Stevengerd:
Lol

How are you sir,

I go like hear your songs anyway



Are you the one that sang

We wait on you

I saw the disk, saw Steven on it, but didn't catch the surname

opeomoope . kindly paragraph your recent post on Grace. Thanks

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Stevengerd:
Wait On him, Stevengerd

create Christian threads too, bye

delugajackson:
The Hillsong - Where feet may fail

Oceans right

emmie14:
My song is as the holy spirit may direct me.

I thought hier was alone on this one

see no 2 comment

MhizzAJ:
Great are you Lord...Sinach

another one

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Lirqur:
Daviddson i understand the reason you opened this thread to curb the number of post related to atheism and not preaching to Christians who count themselves as believers but are still living in sin. i understand that your concern is to stop the general believe that most believers have meaning they think it's ok to be a casual christian and still be saved. But you cannot downplay the good works of the like of KingEbukasBlog, ScienceWatch, butterflyl1on, DoctorAlien, GodsMopol, winner01 and the likes. Debates and regular rebuttals to atheist threads of theirs are very necessary so that casual Christians don't fall for the trap that atheist front as if their use of logic is the right way, hence why we need threads like theirs to push back atheism as much as possible. And moreover they're other threads that attempt to do what you propose, just that casual Christians don't pay attention.

So i'd say just as you've suggested, you can create a focus on the restoring of casual Christians and let the debate continue even Revelation 3:16 says, So then because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth. So i doubt you'd want the logic of a believer to be cold, don't let atheist think they're rightly using logic.

I was pondering on this thread some moment ago, I rarely do NL this days, that's why am seeing this now.

I think, my first experience on NL as a Christian and countless encounters by people who seem to be helpless when those athiest spin their questions is one of the reason I attend to athiest thread.

Though, I always advocate for balancing, not too one sided on most cases, ie. not giving to much attention to athiest thread

At most, after 4 or 4 dialogue, am quitting whatever argument with the athiest. My major reason as you stated, is to either, strengthen Christianity or weaken anything outside. That's what I majorly try to do.

Many lovers of this section are confused as to which is which, Muslims, athiest and all other beliefs' are really on the Christians. So, peradventure someone is contemplating, I try to weaken whatever believe is outside mine, just to open the eyes of some.

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Salvation and tithing, which is greater

Daeylar:
Don't worry you're fine, it's just a dream
I don't believe in Christianity nor the Christain God.

okay, that was my dream
I will say bye from here, until we see again
Have a nice day

Daeylar:
Don't worry you're fine, it's just a dream
I don't believe in Christianity nor the Christain God.

okay, that was my dream
I will say bye from here, until we see again
Have a nice day

Daeylar:
Fine and you?

Well, I don't know if am fine or not

I had a bad dream just recently, but that's by the way.

Are you born again ma?

Daeylar:
Hello

, yea, how are you, ma

Daeylar:
No, please explain

hi sis

Demons are real. Demons are the reason why a man with a wife and children will want to do anything against his own will. For instance, Baba Fathia will wake up in the morning, give his children #40
food and later in the evening, baba Fathia is in a beer parlour, drinking gulder, star, and one useless
girl is dancing beside baba Fathia and baba Fathia who is a sane man who knows his children will need feeding money the next day, quickly reach out for his pocket, pull out his wallet.

After doing conductor all day, reach out for a rough #200 note, a stamp it on the girl dancing, after two minutes of the dirty thing still dancing, baba Fathia feels, she deserves more, he reaches out for his wallet, and bring out his wallet again, pull out the highest denomination out, another #200 note, probably the last, and looking at the #200 note, he realises this is his last #200, aside some small change scattered all over the wallet, there is a section for torn money which baba Fathia believe he can spend only at night, especially when the seller of item he wants to buy is paying little or no attention to the stitches and bandages the amputated currency bears on it.

Baba Fathia chooses to ignore the dancing thing as she threaten by attempting to walk away to another victim. Baba Fathia summon some boldness as he wonders what could have caused him to give out the initial #200 to the ungrateful piece.

At that moment, baba Fathia is high, but a part of him is still active. As baba Fathia have a chat with this active part of him. He realise his children will be going to school the next day, this part his sense, probably his good mind is telling him, there is no food in the kitchen
which his wife will give to the children after school, he smiles at the #200 note which just survival a round of mental combat.

At that moment, the bar owner sight the #200 note as he empty the table of empty bottles. The bar owner, seeing the #200 quickly snatches it, reminding baba Fathia of a sum he owe him some month ago, which baba Fathia believes the bar owner should have snubbed. Now, baba Fathia is no more high anymore, but the liquor is calling.

As he realise the beer he has drank was beyond his wallet savings. Sure, he is thinking of an escape plan,
he grabs his unfinished bottle of beer and head the direction of the bathroom. The bar owner observing him feels baba Fathia is pressed. At the other end of the bar, a customer is calling for more beer as his attention is diverted from baba Fathia. Baba Fathia noticing that, turn a sharp bend, some days ago, there was a fight in the bar and the broken bottles were thrown over the fence by new bartender. This route is the escape route baba Fathia have been using since his youthful days. He reached for an empty keg, while attempting to jump the short fence. As he lands on the other side, he feels a sharp cut.

Nearby is a clinic where he rushed to knowing his cousin will be on duty. He had sworn to her that he will never drink again . . . *CD skipping* and *skipping ferocious* oooooh, hier, come and turn this thing off. *pulling curtain*

First, you are a Spirit

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

To be born of water means to die to the flesh,

To pull curtain over sin and its works unto a new man in Christ

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

The moment we are born again, sin ought not have dominion over us. Its like saying you repented from smoking and you still smoke as usual. Though the desire might arise, we are to shut those desires down by the Word of God. The Bible spoke about how a tiny rope and a small rudder, control the direction and bodily direction of the whole horse and ship respectively.

The price of salvation is a worthy one. First of all, because we are not only to enjoy eternal life, but heaven on earth. I know that feeling where you are passing through difficulties and hardship and its like, God is quite and there is nothing you have tried that is working.

Sin is one separater between God and Man. Lemme explain, God does not like sin, and the moment anyone sins, the person protection is taking away. The reason the protection is taken away is because the accuser of the brethren is standing before God in Heaven telling God what He has said in His Word. It amazes me that the devil knows how serious Gods word are.

The Bible said,

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

The word is powerful and sharper as any two edged sword. Jesus has done it all for us on the cross. He paid the full price for whatever thing you might desire.

The Bible said, call unto me Jer33:3. Despite all that Jesus has done, we need to still open our mouth and confess the Lordship of Jesus over our life. Reason because, we all have sinned, and we need to renounce our bondage with the devil by confessing with our mouth that Jesus is now our Lord

Haven established the relationship life of God

We will say, God was from the beginning, and at a point in God, God needed some to relate with, and God took of Himself a creation which was a delight to God. This creation will become the saviour of the World someday. Moreso, the Holy Spirit also is a Spirit who proceed out of God to act as God or carry out the operations of God. Its like saying, being a replica out of an existing object, but there is still the parent object standing unaffected.

Here in Proverbs, I checked my cross reference and it pointed this verses to me and there I saw Yeshua(Jesus)

Prv 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

Prv 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

8:30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

Here is Yeshua saying He was with God from from the beginning, notice the term, brought forth and brought up

Same goes in John 1:1 where

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Word is Jesus and The Word was with God, just as proverbs puts it.

Like I said, God need someone to fellowship with, then a being proceeded out of His Being. The being that proceeded was Yeshua(Jesus).

Okay, let the scripture judge

John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

Jesus said, He proceeded forth and came from God.

To proceed forth means to come out of sth. Like coming out of a whole.

The other part of the verse said, when I proceeded out, He sent me.

That stands to say, If Jesus came out of God, then He and His Father(personality from which He proceeded from are one) meaning His source was from inside God. And there is a place for Him inside God.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

On the other hand, if Jesus was to recognise the superiority of God, like a replica outside the mother personnel from which He took His source.

You will hear

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Father means, from whom I took/ came out from

I don't want this thread to be a debative one, I will sure attend to questions, but I wouldn't want a strify(strife) thread to be made out of this one

Before I go ahead, let's talk God.

No.1 Let US create - Relationship.

No.2 Twenty Four Elders around the Throne- Relationship.

No.3 God created man for the purpose of fellowshipping that's why we are called Sons, God will come to the garden to fellowship with Adam before the fall.

Ge 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

No.4. It is not good that the man be alone, then God took out of man a being, and called them one, I.e. Eve proceeded out of Adam. Source of Eve:Adam

Personality that seeks for relationship

No.5. John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Worship has to do with communing. I always ask people this question, what will we be praying about, if there was no fall

Yea, if it is not Good that the man should be alone, then this stands to say, God appreciates relationship, from His own perspective