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The answer is in the wind

You are wrong, the answer is in the greatness of Allah, one that can be challenged by man lol

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#MeccaOrIsraelChallenge #WhereIsTheKaabaMeantToBe

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If the Kaaba was built by Abraham and Ishmael (Quran 2:146, 2:125, 2:127) and the children of Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael and Jacob (Israel) were asked by their father Jacob at his death bed, who shall you worship and they agreed they shall all worship Allah, Why did Mohammed command that the direction be changed to the Kaaba a place in Saudi Arabia (Quran 2:144) yet today's Kaaba is not in Israel where the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and other descendants grew up with their father (Quran 2:140).

Quran 2:140 says do you claim the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants are Jew or Christians? Meaning, are the descendants of Abraham all Jews and Christians alone. 

But what you didnt notice is, the Jews or Israelite evidently would have built their houses in the settlement where Abraham grew up in, which should not be some metres away, especially at that old age.

So generations to generation of the descendants of the descendants of Abraham has to build their houses, shops, market and all these things around the place where their father lived and not far from the place of prayer which is supposed to be Kaaba, the place of prayer and development would spread outwardly as population increases.

Yet, out of nowhere, kaaba appeared in Saudi Arabia, not even close to the border between the land of the Israelite and the Arabians, even if there was a quarel, but from the words of Allah, Jacob children said we would serve Allah as Abraham prescribed.

Allah claimed prescribed that they go around it, bow to it and prostrate during prayer. Then, Allah sent prophets were sent, guess what, if prophet were sent, they would be sent to Kaaba right, where Abraham worshipped, where Isaac worshipped, where the descendants worshipped and lastly, where every disciples until Jesus worshipped, which is Israel, so where do you think Kaaba should be situated. Mecca or Israel?

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Akhigbeblog:
Mtcheeeew, this front page no be big deal again for me self!!!!! Sha I wish all of them best of luck.... I've given up on Nigeria and it's politics. All the energy I have used to pray and defend this country, if I channel it to serving God, working more on my programming skills..... I go be billionaire in few years

Become a billionaire and join politics again. Politics today is more than struggle, but become influential andby that, people would hear you better and your voice would be more heard. This is the path I am taking

Rest on Tolu

May more of Bilal Adamu arise in Arewa. I have waited to long to see that

Nairalandmonika:
Those are just make believe, if u go to Italy today, they will show you the grave of Romeo and Juliet, don't tell me u believe Romeo and Juliet story was real.
In the history of ancient Egypt there's no record of a ruler name Joseph, there's no proof they had any prince name Moses.

The Bible wasn't just written like that, it was a combination of different religion including paganism.

Jesus is not the only person born of a god and an earthly mother,
Even Hercules was born of a god and an earthly mother.
You should read this and see how an Egyptian goddess was converted to Mary the mother of Jesus.
http://www.columbia.edu/~sf2220/Thing/web-content/Pages/meg2.html

Do have a nice day

Nairalandmonika:
What u just typed now is according to what u believe, it's not fact.
Christian claim god inspired the writers of the Bible, so therefore the book was supposed to be perfect, but even from your write up, one will conclude that the book is not perfect.

Apart from the contradictions, they are many other stories that did not add up or make sense.

Have you heard about the dead sea scroll. They still remain the strongest proof of Bible days. So it's all not some hugwash or cooked up or fabricated stories, these were records of events that happened and there are many artifacts in Egypt that really verified the existence of such occurrence and one among many are the Israelite themselves. There is what is called Tanakh, Tanakh is a basically the old testament. And the Tanakh is exactly the same content as contained in the old testament. There was a Jewish historian called flavius Josephus. He detailed a Jewish historian far back as 60AD and he has the records of all events as they happen. So, it's not all some fabricated piece. The term Bible is another word for "books". So when you see Holy Bible, it means, Holy Books. Now, the Bible recorded events as they happened, not our own personal history. Though we are to learn from people which did so and so with God, so we would have an idea of the kind of God we serve, but above all, God has given us His Spirit which is the present day word of God, now, before can know where we are going, we need to know how it started, so we can picture how we would do it here and with the help of the Holy Spirit, we would know how to improve on them. Most of Paul's writings were inspired by the Holy Spirit and he wrote them as he was inspired but there were histroys and events like the wars David fought, the war the Israelite found, going round the wall of Jericho, the story of Daniel, Esther, Jeremiah and many countless other were things men had an experience of, and they wrote them as they experience them

Galaticos444:
Magu has used Nigeria to do serious maga.as a Nigerian I feel magu is worse than hushpuppi cos d later defrauded foreigners while d former defrauded d Nigeria govt and Nigerians

Magu na legend, him own pass Puppi own

So Magu was a Yahoo boy all these while

What a wonderful world we live in

DJ Marley, please play me, I am a Yahoo Boy by EFCC Magu

Nairalandmonika:
I am talking from the Bible point of view now

Matthew 27:5
Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself.

Acts 1:18
Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and falling headlong he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out.

Above was how judas died according to Matthew and act.

Obviously they are contradicting each other, and this just one example. They are many others.

There could be a possibility that he hanged himself and fell hence his stomach gushed as proclaimed by both sides. There is a possibility that while trying to untie him from the rope, he fell.

Both side could be telling their stories from different approach

Nairalandmonika:
I am talking from the Bible point of view now

Matthew 27:5
Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself.

Acts 1:18
Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and falling headlong he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out.

Above was how judas died according to Matthew and act.

Obviously they are contradicting each other, and this just one example. They are many others.

First of all, the Bible was compiled some 2000 years ago. The Bible contains 66 different books. Evidently, written by different authors. But one thing that would interest you is, there are more correlation in the Bible than the contradictions. And I believe that's worth a thumbs up. We are talking about different authors still agreeing to the same thing as seen in sermons and cross-referencing. For instance, Jesus on different occasions made mention of verse in the old testament where things about Him which were found in the dead sea scroll which dated 2000 years ago also cited.

I would want you to know that, the Bible was rewritten over the millennial from the period of Moses till civilization (print) as materials occasionally depreciate and need to be replaced. Hence, people would have to rewrite and in the case of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Acts. I believe these books were written at different times to different audiences and when the compilation was done, it proved to agree on many things than what it disagrees on. I would ask, if a student scores 91% in a test, do you because of their inability to cover for the remaining 9 score them an F. Evidently, you commend them for the job well done.

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Nairalandmonika:
U don't think u know the meaning of contradictions, contradictions are two words opposing each other, meaning one is a lie.

Comparing contradictions to Chinese language doesn't even make sense.

A Chinese language may seem like rubbish to me but one it is interpreted then it makes sense.

What do you mean by contradictions, let me in please

Dtruthspeaker:
I am Deeply Honoured by You! It is Much Respected and I Pray to Lord Most High, That I Never Disappoint Him, While Praying that the Eyes, Ears, Noses, and Feelings of My Brothers in Nigeria May Be Open To See and Understand the Great Goodness of the Lord, which He Has Poured on Us Already, But it is Only for Those Who See It, Perceive It and Take it, That can Have It!

Blessings to You Too Sir, For Hearing These Things I Say, For They Are in Deed True, Myself Doing Them Also!

Prayer is the key, with much intercession and evangelism, more people would come to the knowledge of the truth

IJOBA2:
EVEN CHRIST TOLD HIS FOLLOWERS TO FOLLOW THE LAW THAT WAS GIVEN TO MOSES

Have I insinuated anything other than that

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You are not hungry enough�

Christian's most times trivialise the decision to become financially free.

If you have a spiritual issue, you will ������ to pray, fast and do all you can to get out of that situation

But when it comes to being blessed financially, we expect it to happen automatically, without putting in the recquired work

God is a God of principles and process,

You see, if you shout amen to your pastors prayers and sow seeds without following the ������� and ���������� that will lead to your financial freedom, nothing will happen.

When you keep asking "oh God when will my story change", that is not a decision, that is a communication of regret and frustration.

������, then put in the required work and effort in daring to be different.

������ that you do not want to continue in what your parents suffered,

������ to invest in yourself,

������ to deny yourself of some comfort now in other to acquire knowledge,

There was a time I had to clear the last 30k I had in my name and even asked for more from others to add because I wanted to get knowledge,

I was hungry for knowledge,

I was hungry for growth,

I wanted to leave the level I was,

And yes, I left a long long time ago.

It is only with this kind of hunger that your pastor's prayers can work.

So beloved, ������

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©Tricia Famoriyo 2020

IJOBA2:
TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT PORK MEAT

1 Timothy 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

I still don't get your point and what you are insinuating

IJOBA2:
SO TEN COMMANDMENTS WAS THE ONLY LAW GIVEN TO MOSES

Those are the popular ones everyone can relate with. There are other laws given to Moses that many Christians still live by, what are you actually insinuating

Elder0001:
shut up,god doesn’t exist.

looooool, how would you know

IJOBA2:
NOW THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE LAW OF MOSES

I BELIEVE IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS and every Christian were taught the 10 commandments
and also to obey them.

Dtruthspeaker:
You certainly did not read the post for the op is debunking and refuting the Shit of ble-bleble and blabbles!

first of all, the person you quoted is an athiest, and what I meant by saying Athiest is, he has chosen his kind of life

Yea, about speaking in tongues, tongues are divinely inspired speeches and in most cases, they are inaudible to the hearer or speaker

1 Corinthians 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

The Bible says, he speaketh mystery because no man understand him. But we must understand one thing, that Paul wrote to the church, not to a person, so literally, Paul was speaking with regards to the church setting all through the book of Corinthians and everything he said, he said because he was addressing a church and not a person, so somethings could be taken out of context just as Peter said, 2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

ApostleAnarchy:
God is with us brethren.
In some Bible passages(Genesis 18:1-8; Genesis 18:22; Genesis 19:1-3) we can see that Angels appeared physically ,in human form to some people who God had commanded them to visit while sometimes they appear spiritually(Numbers 22:23-32) or even through visions(Revelation 10:1-3).
I was assisted through an encounter with an angel who appeared in human form.
I vividly recall a day while coming back from registering my Jamb which took me late into the night, Problem started when I got trapped due to lack of cabs going to my home direction .It was getting really late and I found myself praying to God in fear. Seconds turned to minutes but still, no cab! About half an hour later, a dark complexioned man walked towards me and stood beside me, at first glance, he looked like a waiting passenger. I turned to face him and greeted, he glanced my way and responded to my greeting formally, then I asked "sir, please where can I get a cab going to Army junction? " I asked .He then said to me "you're at the right place" Few seconds after he came, many cabs suddenly drove to a stop in front of us. He pointed to a particular one and said "enter that one" he said with all surety, I rushed through the crowd of people and got in, while waiting for the cab to get filled, I turned to him and yelled a thank you to him. He faced my way and stared penetratingly at me, I thanked him again but he stood unmoving. I suprisingly felt comfortable with his gaze at me and on thanking him a third time , I some how heard and felt something in me saying ;" this is an angel of God" The cab driver turned the keys and sped off. Looking behind me, the man's eyes were still focused on my cab I, I felt protected and somehow, he made me know he was an angel. I thanked Jesus for assisting me that night and I still thank him everyday.
Note before; I modified the name of my destination for anonymousity
God is with us all brethren, let's have faith and never feel alone, happy Sunday

such experiences are rare, but I bless God for you

Dtruthspeaker:
Tell them brother!

Old things was always clearly defined as your Former old conduct and behaviours which was not good.

But dem no go hear Word! Dem wan troway the one wey dey no Like for Bible make dem go dey deceive themselves and others too.

Preach the Gospel, more grace man of God. It has been long I meet someone who is called into ministry on Nairaland. It's nice meeting you sir, more grace in ministry sir

IJOBA2:
REMEMBER THE SAYING “OLD THINGS HAVE PASSED AWAY “.


IF OLD THINGS HAVE PASSED AWAY, THEN WHY ARE WE MAKING REFERENCES TO THE OLD TESTAMENT

Old things are passed away does not refer to the old testament, it was referring to the old man which is the sinful nature in human which when we repent are forgotten. Hence, old things (sinful human) becomes an history, hence are passed away and we are become new, because we are born again

That verse refers to us as humans, not the Bible or old testament

Here is the verse,

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Referring to the forgiveness and forgetting of sins

Hebrews 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

There are lot of lessons that has been thought from the old testament and believe me you, no part of the Bible is no more significant.

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

IJOBA2:
I THOUGHT THE OLD TESTAMENT IS NO LONGER THE WORD OF GOD


IS SOMEONE CONFUSED HERE

Says who

CAPSLOCKED:
MUMU TALK. PLEASE READ ABOUT SLAVERY AND THE CHRISTIAN CRUSADE BEFORE HAVING AN OPINION ON BARBARIC QUEST FOR LANDS.

Christian crusade?, commanded by who? Not Jesus and slavery were done by colonial masters, not missionaries. Missionaries just saw a people who need salvation, and they saw access, but those colonial masters were more like politicians, they were driven by the wrong drives. Which was greed just as politicians today, but they were not genuine Christians and can not be called missionaries

So please try to understand the difference, many people have misunderstood this and it is blinding them and causing them to fight the wind and engage in wrong quest

Christianity came to liberate, not to enslave

CAPSLOCKED:
MY ANCESTORS DIDN'T SERVE GOD. SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?

You ancestors were freed from the bondage they were under. Those bondages were broken by missionaries which stop killings of twins, occultic sacrifices and dumping of babies which are tagged to come with bad luck in the evil forest which are anti-human in itself, which are also parts of the bondage Christianity freed them from. Needless to mention the endless shedding of innocent blood over fight and quest for lands as communities were stirred by greed hence acquiring and looting properties, subjecting them to slavery amongst themselves and lot more which were checked Christianity. The same benefit you enjoy or partake from today

Elder0001:
Worshiping someone who doesn’t exist

God does exist, just as you need a decoder/antenna to know there are signal, so you need the Holy Spirit to know God exist. And knowing a signal exist does not require the direct use of the 5 senses(touch, smell etc)

hopefulLandlord:
Nothing would happen to you bro. although believers in this useless nonexistent Jewish god say he'd throw you into some eternal furnace and if you serve him you'd be sent to some eternal happiness place. Carrot and stick at its finest.

God exist and we shall all receive the reward for the works we did on earth, whether good or evil. The human body is too complex to conclude there was no God. Every building or design has an architect or designer or fabricator, so also we human. We were designed by God and of course there can be only one God who would be the creator of the world, and not many as in African gods, India gods and other countries saying this is their god. Whether it is Jew or African or whichever it is, there ought to be one God, and we all know that even traditional Africa worshippers have their worship centres in hidden places where they are reduced to a corner or a jungle which is not characristic of a true God. God is God and everyone should worship Him and as such should not have His worship place in hidden places as seen in traditional worship, and guess what, there were African gods in Africa dominating africa, but when Christianity came, Africans left them for the better