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codemaniacs:
been born in Wes:tern nations' or carrying Wes:tern nations' passports does not make the person ethnicity to become European or scot or english or welsh or german or italian e.t.c..

it is not subjective.. ethnicity is very important..

but the same ethnicity is not important when they want them as players to win laurels

codemaniacs:
there are thousands of black coaches coaching in African countries so yes coaching is easy for black men in West Africa, East Africa and Southern Africa I don't know about Northern Africa...

getting jobs that has nothing to do with medicine or tech or care jobs in Europe or U:S would be difficult because they have to consider their people first..

that's subjective as many blacks now carry European or other Western nations' passports or were even born there so you referring to considering their people first surely has a different meaning

codemaniacs:


E:urope have to put their people first, it is not marginalization for them to put their people first..

African coaches and players should come back home and open football clubs and academies... the African coaches are not as rich as the players so the coaches should not be the ones with the responsibility of building academies..

let African coaches and players and wealthy Africans work together and build academies and football clubs and use their knowledge to create jobs in the sports industry in African countries.

Agreed, but let no one continue to fool us with the meritocracy bullshit

TheGoodJoe:
Totally agree with you. That is why Kompany getting relegated really stung me. Glad he got another chance to redeem himself.

There are many factors and one stint is not enough for a coach. Look at Graham Potter at Chelsea. Despite his remarkable history in the past, he still had a poor stint at Chelsea. Look at Ten Hag at Ajax, and his time at Manchester United.

So a poor run can't define a coach. If Kolo Toure with his achievement was a white European, he would be on a higher level. Look at the likes of Lampard, Gerard, Rooney. Fabregas, Xabi Alonso, they have high grade jobs and a bad stint won't mar their images.

Very true!

TheGoodJoe:
That is one of the reasons I am supporting Vincent Kompany. I believe him succeeding can open ways for more black coaches to get trust.

For instance, just checking, a whole Kolo Toure is assistant coach for Manchester City U16s.

As in, a whole Kolo Toure, captain of Manchester City, Liverpool and Arsenal.

Miami fashie this thing.

Laugh is choking me.

Kolo Toure has a UEFA Pro License and UEFA Executive Masters and is doing assitant work in academy. Someone that was coaching in Celtic, Leicester City, Wigan.

Are you surprised? That’s how the global world works na. Some folks will say black folks have victim mentality when they are actually ignorant of the world they live in. They will be shouting meritocracy up and down when in truth the world never and will never operates on meritocracy. Just wait when president Trump tenure begins and we see the total eradication of DEI in the western world then folks will understand better. phew

Samueltemi337:
Alex Iwobi overtakes Nwankwo Kanu to become Nigerian with 2nd most PL appearances.

Kudos to Iwobi, that’s a great career there!

Lexusgs430:
The best prime minister, is that person that is yet to get power....... 🤣😂

👍 Correct!

Lexusgs430:
Or go extreme and vote Farage and his gangsters into power...... 😂🤣

You see those ones, wait and let them enter first na once chance things. People are only moral when they are not yet in power.

jedisco:
Didn't take long. Telegraph is already arguing against ILR for our great british care workers. When they were used to subsidize care costs, they didn't know they were 'low-skilled'. Now its time to become citizens, they don remember their skill... lol
Interesting how these folks advocate a UAE-esque system when it suits but when it doesn't, accuse those folks of human right abuses. If its a mistake, why is the visa pathway still open? Well, I'm happy Keir is overseeing the return of migration numbers to 'normalcy'

Over the next two years, many of those who arrived since 2021 will become eligible for indefinite leave to remain. Once this is granted, no matter how expensive they may turn out to be, they can stay. The priority for the Government should be preventing this from happening – extending the time taken for eligibility, imposing fiscal contribution thresholds and, in the longer term, shifting towards a guest worker model for short-term, low-wage work. The alternative is too costly to contemplate.

After creating something no one forced them to do then they will start fighting against it whether it’s post study or startup visa as if it was in Sokoto the pathway originated from. This is why am not excited about the AI pathway cos tomorrow when those ones too are eligible for ilr they will start saying another thing again like they are responsible for many Brits sitting down at home and damaging the economy.

It just shows the exploitative approach all these programs are and never about progressive ideological way of solving problems. Like I always say it’s a hit and run system.

DABIGATRAN:
I am backing Eric Chelle to do well because that will be a win-win situation for us and for African coaches.

Are the thieving politicians running football interested in Chelle succeeding? Never!
Very soon the government will release billions for the so-called WCQ project.

There is no Senegal in our group, no Morocco or Egypt. Just Rwanda and Benin and we have had 4 coaches. Una well done 🤝

It's terrible. I have never been a fan of changing coaches like this. I hope this current coach stays at least until the next Afcon to maintain some form of stability, no matter the immediate results.

Mujtahida:
I watched some 90s football clips yesterday. See shot upon shot. From outside 18 oo. Chai I feel like saying it shall not be well with Guardiola but I won't say it.

I will help you say it, may tiki-taka perish

aicon4s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR221LVtH4U

For those that didn't know who Segun Odegbami was, watch out for that guy in the number "7" Jersey

When we rate players of the 70s and 80s we no dey exaggerate.

Napoleon55, with these kind of mesmerizing Skills is Odegbemi not worthy of top 5?

The kind of goals these players even score in the days where dangerous tackles were a norm you hardly can see with the eagles of these current era.

TheGoodJoe:
When his CV is brutally above the competition, I see some bad eggs switching to plan B of giving him the job and massively sabotaging the person. We saw it with Stephen Keshi. It was literally open. He was winning games and qualifying for a tournament and still getting reports of bringing in a technical adviser (won't mention the name of the person but a footballing Super Eagles legend).

This time, I think those eggs did not want to take the gamble.

Amaju pinnick was one of the arrow head insisting on a foreign technical adviser when keshi was our main coach. The same Amaju now accusing Nigerians of racism because of Chelle. phew

wittydee:
This is wickedness. He can donate billions in Ukraine for people to kill themselves in Ukraine, he can set aside billions for children to change their gender through surgery, but you can't give your citizens that have been paying taxes through their nose enough money to restart their lives. Na woo for this world.

He's already on his way out of office, when trump comes in he can open the treasury and give the citizens 1m each

TheGoodJoe:
Ironically, he was a good player but his attacking style did not suit Okocha's style. I think Ogbeche suited Ebiede more. Ogbeche liked the ball released early to him when in space while Okocha preferred breaking the midfield with his skills to create room for the forwards.

Okocha's style was pointed out by some analysts as a hinderance to Ogbeche. Ogbeche had a history of being a good player from FGC Okigwe to Unical to the local league scene.

Unfortunately, despite the array of creative midfielders in that time, Abubakar Musa, Ebiede, Ibeji, Oruma etc, Okocha was untouchable to get dropped. So Ogbeche had to go.

Oruma never had a good run in the Eagles because of Okocha. So sad

TheGoodJoe:
Nope. Not really. My focused watching started in 1996. I used to watch all the past games but more of waiting for a goal to shout with everyone around.

You started soaking knowledge in 1996!

Lexusgs430:
You read too much Daily mail and Sun newspapers........ 😁✉️☀️

Which one you sef dey read? Telegraph abi na Guardian

Lexusgs430:
BBC should simply invest in technology, by simply adopting a Netflix subscription based system....... 😁😂

you want them to collapse and send more people into the job market so they will blame immigrants at the end of the day. Take ya time o!

Lexusgs430:
The power of silent protest....... Una mumu don do...... 😂😁

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14274937/BBC-license-fee-swapped-tax-Lisa-Nandy.html

If anything is scrapped, just know it will still come out of the same taxpayers' pocket in another form. Nobody can be wiser and smarter than any govt. They will still collect that fee from you

Joebie:
A very good point i wanted to make earlier. Chelle will meet a different profile in SE, will he be able to make our midfield click? Time will tell. Let's hope for the best with him at the helm

That's why I have reservations on the coach but folks here think am just being flippant.

elyte89:
That’s my fear sincerely ..at times I wonder if our players are professionals

Reason someone like me have very little hope on the wcq

Joebie:
Lose? no be draw draw Peseiro bin dey draw...

Mali still has some decent players.


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I just tried to attach a list of players that Chelle utilized with Mali, but I can confirm attachment functionality is broken

The free-flowing football Mali played at Afcon is what is deceiving many, forgetting the Super Eagles don't have that spine or personnel for it. Even one-touch football is a problem, Whether it is Chelle who will play the midfield himself for us, we'll wait and see.

Joebie:
If we are truly patriotic and we belive our nation is a big nation at least in football then we should demand someone befitting. We can't watch and see other African nations employ proven coaches yet we say we can't afford it. Can we truly not afford proven coaches, put together a long term plan etc? Aren't we Nigeria?

Modified

They tell you they don't have money and we suck it in like a simp. Whereas people are sharing salary.

They will soon tell you to be a man and stop moaning. And that you can't change anything. They are coming. Jokers!

Odunayaw:
As far as NFF is not hiring Grade A coaches, the criteria will keep being subjective regardless of the name or country of the coach. Gaskiya

As your Lordship pleases!

Joebie:
My rationale for Saintfeit is simply his love for handling the Super Eagles which he has applied fir severally, and very likely his knowledge of our team that he must have heen following. I see there is a new PR attempt for Chelle that the Super Eagles has been deer to him since he was 12. May be true....

Back to Seinfeit, yes he is a blank slate as well, and he has not even managed teams at the level of the Mali national team but he has some experience with African national teams.

And if Chelle doesn't give us glory in the next AFCON, would we see it as a failure? I can see there is more expectation from him based on past AFCON. Let's not forget he is a young coach with limited experience. So we should keep our expectations realistic and be patient as he tracks his CV and hopefully achieves something new with us in the process.

On quality of play, we have seen that from some of our indigenous coaches. At the end of the day, it's the results that will matter

That's why one keep asking on what criteria was the selection based on. If na ambition even coach elyte on this thread, his ambition is well know to us 😆. This wayo from nff needs to be studied. Our senior national team don use style become entry level job.

TheGoodJoe:
Rohr admitted openly that he was splitting his salary.

Just leave us alone and let us keep living in self denial that only local coaches are corrupt

Joebie:
Thats saying things as it trully is. Most of what i see is PR stunts. If you support a specific candidate, say why but dont and sugar salt and all kind of spices.

I'm actually okay with Chelle if we are going to be patient with him.

The criteria used in selecting the coach is flawed but when you look carefully like you said a very good pr has been put in place to sell the coach no matter what anybody thinks. We’ve been through this route before and one only hopes it doesn’t bite us too much in the end. Gracias!

forgiveness:
Well, you can mention one.

However, Chelle has come to stay. Gbam.

You can check Google, stories abound and you know it

forgiveness:
No, because of corruption.

Really? So foreign coaches can't be corrupt? Have we not heard about foreign coaches splitting their salaries or being involved in transfer deals to accept or keep Eagles' jobs? That is not corruption abi

minfelix:
which kind continue with Finidi.
Eric Chellea first two matches as coach of Mali
June 2024 (Mali 4-0 Congo)
June 2024 (S/Sudan 1-3 Mali)

Finidi first two matches
June 2024 (Nig 2-1 Gha)
June 2024(Nig 1-1 SA)

which one gives hope to stick faith with?

And if chelle does not win his first two matches with the eagles we will start shopping for another coach abi

Truidstarr:
Guy, this is becoming irritating. Eric Chelle is your new coach. Deal with it like a man. All this your moaning will not change anything.

Don't be a kid if you can't tolerate difference in opinions then stay silent. There was a BBC report I was commenting on and not from my head ok?

Tessyy1701:
Nobody is making excuse for anybody abeg....

We were all here when Finidi was given the chance, many were sceptical and he later prove them right and some of us who are glad to have him, he proved us wrong that he is not yet there.

Sir Equeavon came in and after the Rwanda game - the chorus of he is not good enough, due to his substition this and tactis that was loud for everybody in the room to hear.

Our brother with US U19 team hasnt gone proffesional and you like many other will criticise a white man if appointed in that position.

SiaOne (Our special one) is just coming back from suspension and due to the corruption thingy many wont want him.

We are only left with Pep's classmate and I believe He will get His time.

The foreign coach that we might be looking we cant afford them and thats our reality

We are just deceiving ourselves we know we couldn't afford a foreign coach, then why don't we continue with Eguavoen as interim coach or do what we did years ago when Eguavoen led a consortium of local coaches and we ended up with an afcon bronze. The nff just fooled us for months claiming they were shopping for a coach only to end up with a coach they want to experiment with. At this stage of our football haba this is ridiculous and we are now using all manner of examples to justify this gamble. No wahala make we continue