extol1:

How does my words portray hatred to Nigeria. The country should have been ahead in every sector in Africa

and what have you personally contributed to that? Or is it not humans like you that make things happen?

Onana just Dey show skills

Tenibegilojuo:
Hello guys, please I urgently need your advice on this:

I am a cybersecurity specialist, currently working in a cybersecurity company here in the uk for about 8 months now. I just landed an offer with an NHS trust for a cybersecurity role band 7. I was surprised not to see anything regarding sponsorship on my offer letter. I tried reaching out to the HR guy in charge of my recruitment to seek confirmation regarding the sponsorship but he won’t respond to my emails. However, I sought a few guys’ opinions and I was told NHS always gives sponsorship for tech roles and that it’s almost cast in stone.

My current employer is actually willing to sponsor me towards my visa expiry which is in 6 months, but it’s just that I prefer the NHS role as it’s more senior and strategic.

I need to tender my resignation in 24 hrs to fulfill my 1 month notice period. I don’t know if I should maintain the assumption that the NHS trust will sponsor me or I should just stay put where I am sure of CoS.

Have your current employer put it in writing that they are going to sponsor you? If yes stick to your current employer, if no try and confirm with nhs if they are going to sponsor you before making any move. Don’t assume anything in this country, it’s what is on paper they go with

Lexusgs430:



Fortunately, we all appreciate our small beningin........🤣😁



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlB7HReFejE?si=mkWvcsoOcwArjU4w

na something like this uk cold fit cause o

Lexusgs430:



No be small tin o ..... From cold weather to cold freezer room ..........😜😁

and you go dress like ninja, where you will use 20 mins to UnCloth if you want to go for 30 mins break!

Lilymond:
Hello everyone,

I'm at a crossroads in my career and seeking advice. I hold a master's in Public Health Education and a bachelor's in Health Education. I'm torn between pursuing a career as a Health Policy Analyst or a Health Promotion Specialist. I'm equally interested in both but would appreciate suggestions based on demand in the UK, job opportunities, salary, and overall professionalism. Thanks for your insights!

Pursue both opportunities, anyone that clicks start from there. As you progress and gain experience you can decide on that much later

Oyi12:
Hello elders, please I need your opinion on this. I got 2 offers with sponsorship. The first is with council in a day centre while the second is a Band 5 with the NHS but in Bristol. Considering how expensive Bristol is will it be wise for me to move there with the band 5 salary with my family? There is prospect for me to secure a higher grade in the NHS in future but I am just scared of because of how expensive Bristol is.

House rent is about £1,500 average while i stay in a town where i pay less than £1,000 for rent. We are a family of 4 and my spouse hasn't gotten a job yet.

Please make that move to Bristol, your wife will surely get her own job since sponsorship is settled. I would have said you try a city called Newport for cheaper accommodation which is close to Bristol but when you factor in transportation cost will it make any difference and I don’t think so. I think you may just have to bear for some months before your household income increases when your wife starts working but throwing that nhs job away shouldn’t be an option.

Resurgent2016:


You can't use your story or even field to make a theory.

Certain fields and industries are more open/exposed to offer sponsorship than others. For instance, many accounting firms (big4 or big10 as called here on the sponsorship list are open to offering sponsorship on contact. Discussion on why that is is a different subject. In the industry, an accountant is less likely going to easily find companies that offer on contact or they may be offering below average pay e.g a role that will fetch £50-69k, one will offer it for £25-30k with sponsorship and even those may not be so common. I also understand some data and IT focused firms/roles also rich sponsorship opportunities.

Mind you, an accountant without big4 or closely matching experience in Nigeria is unlikely to land a big4 job in the Uk and so will likely focus on industry roles.

Bottom line is not all industries and careers offer the same level of sponsorship opportunity. For instance a medical practioner/dentist/pharmacist and similar guys have a very high chance of securing sponsorship on contact. Someone with experience in hr or marketing will probably have much lower odds of getting sponsorship.

For some others in the industry, even when they are on the sponsorship list, it is not a norm to offer sponsorship on contact or make any firm commitment towards sponsorship.

So be thankful your prior experience and positioning has landed you in a rich fishing spot. Trust me many others work as hard and diligent but do not find same opportunity because of they do not have the prior experience in the visa-rich field to leverage on.

I currently worked in industry but also have experience working with a big4 prior, so I speak from some level of experience.

Except for some specialised engineering roles, my current employer will not offer sponsorship, neither will others in the industry. Best bet will be to join and hope you convince them to do so. For people with less than 24months on their visa, that is a challenge.

In addition, one of the big four I worked with in the past will not even offer sponsorship to folks on a dependent visa no matter how qualified the person is can’t say for the other big three which reduces the chances of those whose dependents are the ones that are highly skilled some of which they have to go the care route to keep their dependent spouse in those plum jobs. In recent months they will not even go forward with those that have less than a year left before their visa expires except if they are on a student visa. Yes for those on student visa they do sponsor. Like you said many firms tend to sponsor more on roles they feel are critical or technical like software engineers, cloud engineers even in the civil service. A lot of folks I have seen got offers in the civil service but got withdrawn even in the NHS because of visa length, should we say they are not hardworking enough or don’t know what they are doing. Circumstance differ from one person to another. This is my basis why I feel some folks can explore other countries instead of putting themselves at risk if they can’t go the care route. I repeat not everyone will get the opportunity of their desired work visa in this country. We all insisting that everyone should continue to try without having a plan B is very insensitive.

Goodenoch:


Man, many many companies offer sponsorship.

Difference is most don’t offer it to entry-level hires.

That is the entire reason for PSW, to relieve graduates of the need for sponsorship and allow them to prove themselves to the point that companies will sponsor them.

There is a clear, logical progression to the thing but many people don’t want to follow it for various reasons and that’s how they end up where they end up, and then people like you start blaming the government for everything.

Your advise to anyone not interested in care work is to go to another country? Lmao. I can see that you’re fully set on this so all the best to you and all the others who join you in believing care is the only work available to immigrants in this country.

This one I think I work in care

Resurgent2016:


You can't use your story or even field to make a theory.

Certain fields and industries are more open/exposed to offer sponsorship than others. For instance, many accounting firms (big4 or big10 as called here on the sponsorship list are open to offering sponsorship on contact. Discussion on why that is is a different subject. In the industry, an accountant is less likely going to easily find companies that offer on contact or they may be offering below average pay e.g a role that will fetch £50-69k, one will offer it for £25-30k with sponsorship and even those may not be so common. I also understand some data and IT focused firms/roles also rich sponsorship opportunities.

Mind you, an accountant without big4 or closely matching experience in Nigeria is unlikely to land a big4 job in the Uk and so will likely focus on industry roles.

Bottom line is not all industries and careers offer the same level of sponsorship opportunity. For instance a medical practioner/dentist/pharmacist and similar guys have a very high chance of securing sponsorship on contact. Someone with experience in hr or marketing will probably have much lower odds of getting sponsorship.

For some others in the industry, even when they are on the sponsorship list, it is not a norm to offer sponsorship on contact or make any firm commitment towards sponsorship.

So be thankful your prior experience and positioning has landed you in a rich fishing spot. Trust me many others work as hard and diligent but do not find same opportunity because of they do not have the prior experience in the visa-rich field to leverage on.

I currently worked in industry but also have experience working with a big4 prior, so I speak from some level of experience.

Except for some specialised engineering roles, my current employer will not offer sponsorship, neither will others in the industry. Best bet will be to join and hope you convince them to do so. For people with less than 24months on their visa, that is a challenge.

All that you have said here is what I cannot fault at all. I would have said all this earlier but our motivational speakers here will still find fault with it.

see, just leave some folks here to continue to use themselves as a model when what applies to one cannot apply to many others. It's just a lack of sensitivity to other people's plight. I currently work in the aerospace, security & defence sector and it would be very bad to use myself as a model when I know many others don't have or may not be able to have the kind of experience and privileges I do enjoy. This country at times is like a lottery, if you are privileged, give thanks and do not think many others are not even hardworking like you. Enough said

Omenlon:
if you do not protect the local industries how will they grow. the so-called foreign companies started from somewhere, their home govt protected them to grow to international standards. Nobody can help you other than yourself.

the local rice companies we protected by shutting our borders, how far now?

hustla:



I am just telling you its more commonplace than you think, stop trying to shift the goal post. If you are talking about companies with sponsorship that may not want to, NHS trusts also do it and some want to sponsor certain roles only. Monzo and Starling do the exact same thing

The salary requirement has not been implemented yet so ...

It’s not common place anything, the stats released by govt shows it. Am talking from the data released and if you want to know there is another site that tells you company by company how many workers they sponsor within a year. That’s when you will know that many have the license but don’t sponsor. I’ve seen large companies with thousands of employees on their payroll that won’t sponsor more than 50 in a year. The salary requirement increases is definitely coming but again the health sector won’t be affected and we will blame people again for going that route

hustla:



Not true, as a matter of fact, lots of companies sponsor that arent in the healthcare sector sponsor. In actual fact, i have seen ice cream shops with sponsorship while browsing through

As of 11th November, 2023, the figure for London was about 26,000. Means 2,000+ companies signed up to sponsor folks (i will check the exact figures to confirm)

See, the thing about life is, you only see what you want to see

Are we going from health care to ice cream shop now, let me know o

That companies sign up to get license does not mean they will sponsor. Make Una no give people bp on top this sponsorship matter o

Hope you also realise that by the time they increase the salary requirement for skilled workers that again will reduce the ability of more companies to sponsor. Smell the coffee they say they want to reduce net migration and we are here encouraging people to gamble, Dey play and keep playing. You guys don’t know the damage Suella and gang has done

While I support our local industry it’s also important they give highest quality of services

It’s in protecting our local industry we gave some learners to operate the distribution part of our power sector the discos and still nothing to show for it.

If it will take giving tax cut to foreign organisations for us to have a befitting national carrier of international standards why not?

Am tired of all these local sentiments that gives Nigerians the worst of services or is that what we truly deserve?

Goodenoch:


After about 6 years of full time care, he will port to a new career in cyber? 😹😹
As what? Assuming he’s around 30, at close to 40 he’ll start looking for entry-level cyber analyst Abi? In 2029 when the cyber landscape will be completely different and he’ll probably be weighed down with a lot more familial responsibilities?

You people so love to titillate yourselves with these fantasies sha.

The fact of the matter is that if people actually came to the country with their fees and POF sorted as they declared, they would comfortably be able to get PSW and then use that time to get jobs without bothering about sponsorship in the first instance, and then get a sponsorship role of the back of that experience before the PSW expires. That’s because there are a ton of professional jobs vacant but sponsorship is the issue, which many employers are reluctant about whether rightly or wrongly.

Many of my friends have even been sponsored by the same place where they work after just a few months of working on PSW because the organisation now has the confidence to do so, and many others simply go to other organizations that sponsor after a year or so.

In 90% of cases where people default to care it’s because the foundation of their immigration was faulty (fraudulent?) ab initio, thereby robbing them of the flexibility to take advantage of the very clear paths to career progression, and then they get stuck doing things they hate for the rest of their lives.

But no, keep blaming the government and tories and companies and everybody but those who chose to cut corners and are bearing the consequences.

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Edit: for the avoidance of doubt I have nothing against care work. I just believe it should be done as a way to pad your finances while studying so you have a reserve for PSW and while searching for a job afterwards, or if you are a professional health care worker or have a passion for it.

To pay 15k to do cybersecurity or some other hotcake masters (especially STEM!) and then discard that to go and do care full time for 5 years though? Haba mana.

Let’s break out of this default-to-care mould biko, while other immigrant communities are aspiring higher and building careers and businesses.

How many companies outside the healthcare sector are sponsoring skilled workers?

Some of us are not realistic enough, from the current stats it clearly shows not many companies outside the healthcare sector sponsor skilled workers and that’s the only major pathway in this country. And from my current observation the number of companies outside the health sector that are sponsoring keeps reducing. Let’s not give people false hopes by urging them to continue to hope on what is never available. My advise simple to anyone not interested in care is to start to explore other countries and don’t get caught in the cross fire of uk immigration which is the perspective Justwise is coming from but many here are clearly misunderstanding him. I should keep applying when my visa is expiring soon and I have a family? Common

This has nothing to with the foundation of POF, it has more to do with the opportunities available and not everyone I repeat not everyone will have the privilege of working in the nhs which does not even sponsor for many roles. It’s what it is.

justwise:


My question is this.. if you studied a particular subject and applied for jobs with no success what do you do? Go back to school to get more certificate ? Go back to Nigeria to start looking for job? Thinking that you must work in the area you studied is outdated. Education gives you the exposure , the ability to make rational decisions.

Yes this may sound controversial but given the choice I will take health care sponsorship over PSW.

PSW should be avoided if you can, I will take it if that is the only option available.

I can’t even fault anything in all that you have said. You’re so spot on

justwise:


Your friend can swtich back to Cybersecurity when he settles with full right to live and work in this country, nobody pins him down to health care work for ever. He is thinking outside the box which is what education gives you. You studied Cybersecurity and you applied for jobs with no positive outcome then what? You keep waiting until your visa expires?

Some of our motivational speakers here think otherwise

Rachie83:
When an immigrant with no legal stay gets here, there there are some jobs like warehousing jobs that are easily accessible in midwest states with good pay which are not really in places like Texas because of minimal numbers of warehouses. You can be new here and be earning like $18-22 per hour in warehouse while in Texas u might not see such a job with such a pay. "Wa lo iwe oni iwe ni awon ilu yen lati fi se ise" if you don't understand the yoruba pls look for someone to translate for you.

Thanks 🙏

babajeje123:

Post study is never a waste of time. One of the challenges our people have is their inability to delay gratification. Our people don't want to sow today to reap a better tomorrow. I finished my Msc in January and opted for post study. Meanwhile I got a job with a trust who was not going to sponsor and won't still allow me to start till I get my post study. It was a band 3 role but I went for it. Paid £8k plus for the whole family and started the job. Few friends who heard I opted for post study abused hell out of me since I could have used the money to buy COS. To sha cut the story short, got a higher band for the same role with another trust who sponsored. Few weeks back, we applied and received £1600 plus as IHS refund, part of the post study ihs and part of dependants ihs. So you see, there are numerous opportunities in this country such that one doesn't need to cut corners. People just need to define and stick to what they want.

You can only speak for yourself, you can’t speak for others. Circumstances and experiences differ from one person to another. Not everyone on the psw route will get a sponsorship job and that’s a fact. We have been told here that no company is under obligation to sponsor anyone. And some of these people in this circumstance are the ones going to other countries yet we will condemn such move and say it’s not greener on the other side or they don’t know what they want. We need to be more sensitive to the diverse situations of others.

Zahra29:


Suella-let here 😂....Locals aside, you're telling me they couldn't find a chef or mechanic or barber within the vast Indian, Pakistani, Bangledeshi communities already in the UK They had to go and find some in India? Ok....

I don't think they should scrap the list entirely as there are some roles that make sense e.g. welder, civil engineer etc...but it needs to be refined so that it doesn't simply become an avenue for employers to get cheap labour in.

if they were never allowed into the country, who would have done it, I remember one Justwise comment way back as in 'What is the real definition of a local or British'

We also seem to be putting everyone inside the same bucket, locals can also refer to graduates here who already have some experience but are limited by visa length, this is where the system needs more definition. If more efforts are made to retain graduates without the burden of sponsorship, it's even easier to control migration, but if you put both inside and outside the country in the same bucket then there will be chaos like the selling of COS.

Zahra29:


But it's true though. The shortage list allows you to pay 20% less than the going rate, some companies esp SMEs would definitely pay much less.

I laughed in Spanish when on the BbC last week, an Asian man said he couldn't find a mechanic to employ in the UK.Another said he couldn't find chefs🙄 - both occupations are on the shortage list and they went to Pakistan / India to recruit, maybe directly from their communities, who knows.
Where is the evidence that they tried to recruit broadly in the UK first?
How much do you think they will pay the mechanic and chef that they have already done such a favour to by bringing them and their families (both real and arranged lol) to the UK?

don't sound like braverman here o, how many locals are truly willing to work as chefs or mechanics? I have worked in a local council so I Know firsthand, despite all the training available for locals to do in these areas, how many come forward for it at the end of the day? I once asked someone what's really the problem, and with shame he told me our folks are not interested. We see these things but many will say it's a lie.

As for that shortage list by the way apart from the healthcare roles, not many foreign workers are recruited for other roles so I support that it should be scrapped cos it's obvious it doesn't make sense and the policymakers know this already. It's a huge cost to employers to bring in foreign workers in the first place and it's because of the waivers the healthcare industry enjoys reason they can bring in as many as they like.

dupyshoo:
Psw is no waste of time. I know of more than 20 friends that got a job in their fields during PSW. While some people will get job before finishing, some will get after a year, some after 2 years. The final outcome will be to become a citizen. It is not how far but how well.

You did not address the statement that some students are not chanelling their energy to applying for jobs in their field. How will they get sponsored when they did not apply.

If we want to be a force to be reckon with in this country, as Nigerians, we need to start targeting the top collectively and stop settling for less.

Why will they channel their energy when there’s no hope of sponsorship, do we all have same level of resilience? Like someone said we may need to respect people’s choices for going the care route. For many it’s family survival first, will you blame them? This is why some people feel we are bashing other people’s career choices here.

karixz:
Good day guys,
Please I need advice on what physical bank I should open as a new immigrant. I’ve heard something about some of these banks coming with financial incentives from this thread and I’d be really delighted to know more about this.

Physical or high street banks lol, spiritual banks no Dey o. Any of them is good actually be it hsbc, Lloyds or Halifax

kwakudtraveller:

But it’s clearly defined on their website, they have a list of skill set they want for the top visas. If the companies are not sponsoring, it’s no fault of the government as they have to prioritise their own as opposed to putting in an extra cost for a visa when they can just easily hire a citizen or someone with an existing work permit with no ties. That people are seeking care jobs post uni is their lack of patience, and for some, the fear of the unknown which I can’t blame them for. Care is still a profession and at some point, we have to respect people’s choice but ensure we speak to people close to us to not settle. Another issue is people are looking to move into other professions because someone somewhere has told them that it’s the best way to get into the job market, instead of just continuing from where they stopped in their country, everyone now wants to be a project manager or a Fraud Expert and they think doing a Masters for it is enough which in a way is putting these companies at risk. That’s why companies are now doing double reference checks. Because if one is on top of their game; why would a company need to do another thorough background check if one has been hired already and has been there for months.
My point is, 2 years is enough time to figure things out, nobody forced us to move here, they’ve given us this opportunity so let’s use it wisely and stop pointing fingers at them.

one of the top recommendations now from the Migration Advisory Council is to scrap the shortage skills list as it's obvious to all that its just for decoration, so many things here are not straightforward, they want to scrap it cos according to them it is encouraging cheap labour which I find laughable.

dupyshoo:
Regarding the bolded, while I blame the government, some students are not even trying at all. Ask them to apply for PSW and consider roles within their field, a lot of them will curse you. When I did my MSc., most of my classmates did psw and majority of them got very good jobs before they finished the psw. Sponsoring of visa was not even that popular then. I applied for around 500 jobs, got to 10 assessment centres before I got a job offer. Some of my classmates even applied for more jobs. When I was not happy with my job, I started applying again. I did so many applications, had so many heart breaks but eventually got 3 companies that wanted to sponsor me at the same time.

I asked one student who was complaining how many jobs he had applied to in his field, he could not mention 10.

People just want to get into skilled worker visa immediately. I was practically begging someone to send me his CV. He was just interested in getting COS from a care home. This is someone that studied cybersecurity.

Also, I have spoken to a lot of students as we have huge no of students in my town. Some of them don't even have a clue what they are studying. They hire people to do their dissertation and course works. Are those people students?

However, some students are still trying their best though and I am certain their hard work will pay soon.

people feel it's a waste of time applying for psw cos it leads to nowhere, nobody likes uncertainty, if the UK immigration policies are straightforward it will be easy for people to make more well-informed decisions, the only straightforward thing now is care cos it leads to their desired settlement. That is why the smarter ones are looking to other countries not because the UK is not even better than those countries but because nobody wants to mortgage his future for any uncertainty. It looks like a gamble for many especially with families applying for psw with the heavy cost to it while with care they just pay the visa fee and are exempted from ihs fees. Only those with a strong desire to remain in their field will try the psw route first and see what happens and they are very few. Th Uk does not need to make these things hard like this and still complain of over 1 million vacancies not filled.

kwakudtraveller:


People are now setting up care home businesses just to sell COS. The rot keeps getting deeper but people like to be delulu instead of acknowledging that we as a people, Indians, Ghanaians, Zimbabweans, and Nigerians need to do better. I’ve come to realise that it’s their country and their rules and if I don’t like it, then I can fxxk off to another country where I will still cry and cry if their policies annoy me. But to ignore the fact that we are abusing the system is downright preposterous. Because their policies appear to be turning on its own no mean say they are wrong, they are right in their own way as it’s their country and their rules.

The truth remains that one has a higher chance of getting a UK visa than any of those countries mentioned and you people know that Heroshark is right but you are just in denial. Not every Joe can make it into Canada as their deciding factors are strict, that’s why there’s a distinction between the quality of people who move into Canada, Australia and the US versus the UK. A high percentage of the people who moved to the US legally either did so through Family, Lottery system or School and as for the student route, US universities will deny your study application or visa before you finish spelling SUELLA. US universities reject their citizens, talk more of you a foreigner. The people who moved in illegally, got in through a visiting visa and they either did marriage fraud or applied for asylum. I know a handful of such people. Make Una Japa to US easily like the UK now, make we dey see.

The UK is this and that, but the other day, we dey complain about woman wey get work go dey collect free food wey suppose be poor people with zero income, she come even turn am to content creation. But we wan dey banter back and forth on top the truth.

Make everybody dey deceive themselves.

Sorry Zahra for hijacking your post to write this long talk. The talk don tire me

In all of this, the Uk is to be blamed for not properly defining the kind of disciplines and professions they really want which has been my own major issue in all of this. The US and other countries you mentioned have more desire to attract more qualified professionals to settle in their countries but what do you have here in the Uk, folks graduating with an MSc in cybersecurity but no clear immigration pathway but have to settle for jobs in the care sector by paying for COS. Let's not deceive ourselves companies are not really sponsoring professionals here in this country.

The Uk will continue to attract the kinds of people its currently attracting cos that's what they want and they should not blame anybody. If they are serious, sponsorship jobs should not be the only major immigration pathway, overhaul the system, find out honestly what professions you truly need and attract those well qualified for it.

Zahra29:


The panic set in when they observed the large number of dependants that started accompanying students on a 1 year post grad course. It points to a plan to stay permanently as opposed to get your masters and then return home.

Re the health and social care sector, the largest vacancies are in the care sector. But I find it strange that since brexit, the number of vacancies doesn't appear to have gone down, despite over 150k care visas being granted in the last 2 years.
And if there were such huge vacancies as reported, why are so many immigrants , especially those who came in via an agency, unable to get shifts?

Something's not adding up. And it's certainly not working in the current format.

and who do we blame for this? Immigrants?

heroshark:


I can also argue that many Nigerian that migrated to the UK using the student visa route in the last 2years are not qualified for the UK student visa.

But then again people will attack me. But let's examine it without bias or prejudice.

The UK Student visa is point base. To qualify you need a total of 40points.
CAS = 30points
Proof of sufficient fund = 10points

Many Nigerians (majority in my uni and cohorts) used fraudulent means to obtain the last 10 points. So genuinely speaking they did not meet the criteria and if UKVI had discovered they would've been banned.

The influx of immigrants that the UK is complaining about is mainly from Indians (+subcontinent) and Nigerians and these are also the group that uses the most fraudulent means to secure visa ( Selling of COS and Fraudulent POF). This is the truth and we all know it. But if I talk am, everybody go tag me as enemy of progress.

I personally can not say this outside the community but as na we we dey here, make we tell ourselves the truth.

What i

The UK you're trying to defend knows these facts well more than you but you know what? they didn't care as they were more after the numbers to reach their target. Stop trying to be more righteous than them, they were in the know but looked away to get all their figures. And that's the hypocrisy lot of people point at, you were the ones who let them in with all the fraudulent credentials in the first place.

I have always maintained that the sales of COS should be blamed on the govt for allowing all sorts of agencies to issue COS, I hear they are now trying to do proper background checks if that is true anyway.

Gerrard59:


Honestly, I would love to read a research paper why that keeps happening. It is prevalent across almost all immigrant societies. Those who have migrated a long time get agitated and somehow unhappy when there are newer arrivals in large numbers. It is not just a Nigerian thing, but happens among Whites in Japan, Indians in the US, Indians in the UK, Mexicans in the US, Indonesians/Malaysians/Filipinos in Japan, etc.

Sha, one thing is clear from the recent exodus: the veil on the UK's face has been removed. It is not a new thing anymore. Literally, an above average Nigerian can get into the UK. The mystery has been demystified. It is good anyway. It is an all-comers-affair.

I remember the time whites said Dubai haff cast because many blacks, especially black Africans, were visiting there en mass.

The UK haff cast.

you're a badt boy that's why I like this forum, someone will catch some fun from the whole drama

pretty1986:
Ok.Thank you for your response.I will be glad if you can link me up with anyone in Australia that is in medical line.I will like to migrate there,My Wife is a registered Nurse.any contact pls?.I will appreciate.Thanks

The Australian visa thread will be a good place to be with loads of information there

pretty1986:
Good morning,I noticed something.why is it that nobody is talking about Australia as if there is no future for anyone that is moving to Australia?

Even the Brits themselves are moving to Australia, it’s also a destination for uk healthcare care workers. I have a couple friend both on individual work visas moving to Australia as permanent residents so yes it’s another choice destination. No much noise though

Zahra29:

But It's the citizens who are crying out that immigration is too high. The same citizens who voted for Brexit because they wanted to reduce and control immigration. The same citizens who are warning the govt that they will go the way of the Netherlands.

People who voted for brexit because they felt that 200k plus net migration was too high, how do you think they will just accept 700k plus, and from countries that are even more "forrin" than the EU lol
It's not personal, that's just how they are.

The Brits themselves should educate themselves better from the stats before them and be realistic. Most of the numbers are international students many of which will not settle permanently. Secondly the highest number of foreign workers are actually from the healthcare sector so they should ask themselves if they are now ready to man that sector themselves otherwise all the hue and cry is baseless cos it’s the politicians themselves will continue to use such stats to get their votes to keep themselves in power and not focus on more pressing issues affecting their own well being. Enough said