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lammysole:
because it's becoming insanity in the market labour.

I don't quite get it, What is the Market Labour?

On a more serious note, That is just the way it is so deal with it and stop complaining!!! Do what it takes to make yourself qualified and prove your worth to employers! There was a notecounter in the bank I used to work who struggled to get his ICAN and today he is a Marketer bringing in some serious deposits, Those who started as notecounters with him and chose to rant and complain about workplace inequality are still bloody notecounters over 10 years after,

After 10 months as a beggar, sorry salesman, sorry yet again, After 10 months as a marketer in one of Nigeria's top New Generation Banks, I picked up my letter for a role in KPMG BPS (Business Performance Services) today, THANK YOU LORD!!!

Not only do I earn more than twice my former pay, I get to do more challenging work and ultimately make a real contribution while at the same time developing myself personally and professionally.

Best of all, no more unrealistic targets and having dumb colleagues whose heads are absolute vacuums.

I wish you all the very best in life!!!

LSBF is crappy and honestly I do not think it is worth the investment, For crying out loud, if you are gonna do something as significant as an MBA, do it in a good school, Put in your best in your application and you will get in cos' an MBA isn't all about grades, Good schools are expensive I know, but if you are determined to study abroad then by all means, try to obtain these finances and go to a solid school.

It is just my opinion and it is in no way valid or proven but I also believe London School of Business and Finance is just a very cheap imitation of the prestigious London Business School which was ranked no. 1 for its full time MBA by the Financial Times in 2009.

And yes, I do know people affiliated with both schools, (1) My mediocre former secondary school classmate who is presently in LSBF.
and (2) The GM of a highly profitable U.K Based Oil and Gas firm that does business in Nigeria who is an alumnus of LBS.

Ok I know these two examples are too narrow to base a decision on; they simply are not representative enough, Furthermore, one is a student while the other is an alumnus, not, not exactly comparable, i totally agree. All the same, what I said prior to the examples is just my honest advice man, Give yourself the best chance in life, DO NOT ATTEND A MEDIOCRE SCHOOL!!!

Hello Inspired, Just stumbled upon your thread, I'm in URGENT need of a decent ride but my budget is 1.1M at the maximum, Ill b able to cough out the 30% deposit but I'll need some sort of bank financing deal to pay up the balance,

I have a number of cars in mind

(a) Baby Boy
(b) Baby boy COUPE
(C) 2002/2003 Honda Civic
(d) 2001/2002 Nissan Altima
(e) 2001/2002 Mitsubishi Galant

Considering my budget, (1.1M) Which of these is a realistic option for me? If not, please suggest something within my budget
Is there any financing option available from any bank and what are the terms or who can I contact?

Hello people, I am a bit confused and worried at the same time. I did my KPMG test in February, went for the assessment in July and the Manager Interview in August, I was just invited for a Partner Interview today which will hold next Thursday 10th September, By the way, Im being interviewed for Business Performance Services, My concern is this: KBAC (whatever it means) starts on 14th September (I spoke with a friend in BPS, He also confirmed this date) So what does this mean? What batch am I even interviewing for? By God's grace, after success on the last stage, when can I expect to called for Medicals/Resumption? Please I really require relevant feedback on this issue,

Also what should I expect on the Partner Interview, Thanks in advance folks

Hello my brethren, Ive been following your conversation with interest and I must say it really is interesting.

My opinion on the whole MBA issue is that the $100K+ investment in Education is absolutely worth it provided you have subjected yourself to a rigorous self-examination and reflection and decided what you really want out of life.

The truth whether or not you choose to accept it is that top firms such as Goldman, Mckinsey, Bain and Co., Morgan Stanley etc. are extremely selective in their recruiting. These firms I daresay have remained the best primarily because of the talented people they continue to employ; nowhere else in the world can you find a greater concentration of talent, potential corporate superstars and potential global leaders than in a Harvard or Stanford MBA classroom. That is precisely why these top firms focus their recruiting attention on certain 'Target Schools' such as Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Columbia, MIT Sloan etc. Thay can rely on the quality and calibre of the graduates of these programmes and be confident in their ability to bring fresh (and profitable) insights into their companies.

You may question the absolute nature of my previous statements but I dare say I have reasons for my conclusions. You need to understand there are MBAs and there are MBAs, You simply cannot even begin to compare a top schools to rest of the pack. What makes the top schools stand out? I am not an authority on the subject but I believe three major factors distinguish these schools from others.

First the calibre of professors that teach on Top MBA programmes are second to none. Harvard and Stanford for instance have several Nobel Laureates among their faculty. These professors apart from being technically sound in their fields are foremost thinkers steadily reeling out fresh ideas that become the stuff of textbooks and are eventually adopted the world over. Examples include Myron Scholes (Stanford) who received the Nobel Memorial Prize for the creation of the Black-Scholes options pricing model, a benchmark formula for the valuation of stock options and William Sharpe (also from Stanford) who received the Nobel Memorial Prize for his development of the Capital Asset Pricing Model, an economic model that weighs the potential gain from an investment against its potential risk.

Second major factor is the quality of the students admitted into these top business schools every year, You need to read their profiles, these folks are not ordinary, I am not talking about grades alone, that is where so many mediocre institutions miss it, I am talikg about accomplishments and leadership potential, In these schools, you find people who have taken the initiative to do meaningful things like starting charitable organizations or leading charitable causes, Bottom line, apart from being incredibly smart (Super high GPA and GMAT), you have to be a well rounded outstanding individual. Forming close bonds with such people over two years will revolutionize the way you think, act and respond to situations around you. These schools realize that potential for success can be displayed in a number of ways not just by detailed knowledge of a particular subject, This is why Harvard may admit an applicant with a very good GPA and GMAT who has accomplished a great feat such as leading a team of Mountain climbers over the Everest in record time and deny another applicant who has a perfect 4.0 GPA, MSc with Distinction, C.F.A and even a PHD but absolutely no extracurricular accomplishments.

Also very important are the Alumni Networking opportunities available at these top schools. Be it a career on Wall Street or in a top Consulting firm or even as an Entrepreneur, It is a great help if you have valuable connections. Certain schools like Harvard have alumni in virtually every sphere of American (and global) society, You just need to look up the notable alumni of these top business schools; this alone is enough motivation to get a top MBA, (George Bush, Henry Paulson, Our very own Bayo Ogunlesi are all Harvard Alumni), Harvard is a LEADERSHIP FACTORY, Other Schools such as Wharton, Columbia, Stern or Chicago boast probably the highest number of alumni that work on Wall Street, Stanford Alumni on the other hand are typically the pride of Silicon Valley,

If for instance your dream is a fulfilling career in Goldman , JP Mogan or a similar firm, an MBA from a school like Wharton or Columbia is probably the surest way in, Different schools also have their particular specialties. This is specifically why I said at the beginning of this post that you need to determine exactly what you want out of life before you dole out a 100Grand on an MBA, If you know all you desire is to be a top shot in one of Nigeria's commercial banks, do not waste your money on an MBA, Simply bringing in Billions of Naira in Deposits will get you to your promised land, the MBA is for people with far bigger dreams,

To my distinguished colleague who would rather spend the 100+ Grand on a business venture, I daresay that is a very noble idea once you have done your homework well, If you have a really great idea, go for it by all means. It is important to note however that top MBAs also focus on building entrepreneurs. A number of successful young entrepreneurs take a break and go to business school for two years to gain valuable insights and make even more valuable contacts. The teaching in the top MBA programmes is revolutionary, These programmes make great use of Case Studies that present some of the most complex business issues that exist today and even issues that they anticipate will exist in the future. Students are encouraged to THINK beyond the limits they have previosly set for themselves, analyse these issues and tackle them while in a classroom environment, Top programmes typically hold Business Plan Contests, The winner of such contests in some cases may receive funding and alumni support to bring the plan to reality. I believe the MBA, while in no way a neccessity if you are on an entrepreneural track, is also udoubtedly HIGHLY USEFUL as a lot of the concepts taught are very relevant in starting and running your own business successfully. Once again, a glance at the notable alumni of top schools like Stanford and Harvard will reveal the number of successful entrepreneurs that have been groomed in these formidable institutions.

An MBA is a lot more than the typical academic qualification, It is also very professional in nature providing you networking opportunities your peers can only dream of, The top MBAs also prepare you for Global Business Opportunities and ensure you do not remain a 'LOCAL CHAMPION' in your chosen field, The MBA as I have said is not only useful to those who have Goldman Sachs or Mckinsey in mind, even as an Entrepreneur, this qualification could really provide the missing link (knowledge, concepts and contacts) necessary to take your business to greater heights.

It is an expensive venture but one I DEFINITELY choose to invest in, Like my friend DAVIDIF, I am an absolute GOLDMAN SACHS FANATIC and I am not ashamed to say so, This is why I intend to go to a TOP business school in the very near future, As I have said repeatedly, let your ULTIMATE GOALS AND DREAMS determine your decision on whether or not to pursue an MBA, Never be a victim of 'CROWD ACTION', Only dead fish swim with the stream, If you've got what it takes and you want to make an impact on the GLOBAL BUSINESS scene, then an MBA may be just the thing for you.

Finally, research has proven that the Economic value of an MBA is directly related to the status of the school you choose to attend, Mega paying corporate establishments like Goldman, Morgan Stanley, Blackstone, KKR etc are very UNLIKELY to recruit out of certain less prestigious schools. You honestly cannot expect Harvard Business School and University of Maryland's Smith Business School to send their grads to the same companies, Complain as you want, it is not impossible but certainly very unlikely to see a Smith MBA in a firm like The Carlyle Group, That is just the way it is, My advice: do all you can to make yourself the ideal candidate for the top schools, this will give you prestige, virtually limitless opportunities, more confidence and certainly MORE VALUE FOR YOUR MONEY,

Hello my brethren, Ive been following your conversation with interest and I must say it really is interesting.

My opinion on the whole MBA issue is that the $100K+ investment in Education is absolutely worth it provided you have subjected yourself to a rigorous self-examination and reflection and decided what you really want out of life.

The truth whether or not you choose to accept it is that top firms such as Goldman, Mckinsey, Bain and Co., Morgan Stanley etc. are extremely selective in their recruiting. These firms I daresay have remained the best primarily because of the talented people they continue to employ; nowhere else in the world can you find a greater concentration of talent, potential corporate superstars and potential global leaders than in a Harvard or Stanford MBA classroom. That is precisely why these top firms focus their recruiting attention on certain 'Target Schools' such as Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Columbia, MIT Sloan etc. Thay can rely on the quality and calibre of the graduates of these programmes and be confident in their ability to bring fresh (and profitable) insights into their companies.

You may question the absolute nature of my previous statements but I dare say I have reasons for my conclusions. You need to understand there are MBAs and there are MBAs, You simply cannot even begin to compare a top schools to rest of the pack. What makes the top schools stand out? I am not an authority on the subject but I believe three major factors distinguish these schools from others.

First the calibre of professors that teach on Top MBA programmes are second to none. Harvard and Stanford for instance have several Nobel Laureates among their faculty. These professors apart from being technically sound in their fields are foremost thinkers steadily reeling out fresh ideas that become the stuff of textbooks and are eventually adopted the world over. Examples include Myron Scholes (Stanford) who received the Nobel Memorial Prize for the creation of the Black-Scholes options pricing model, a benchmark formula for the valuation of stock options and William Sharpe (also from Stanford) who received the Nobel Memorial Prize for his development of the Capital Asset Pricing Model, an economic model that weighs the potential gain from an investment against its potential risk.

Second major factor is the quality of the students admitted into these top business schools every year, You need to read their profiles, these folks are not ordinary, I am not talking about grades alone, that is where so many mediocre institutions miss it, I am talikg about accomplishments and leadership potential, In these schools, you find people who have taken the initiative to do meaningful things like starting charitable organizations or leading charitable causes, Bottom line, apart from being incredibly smart (Super high GPA and GMAT), you have to be a well rounded outstanding individual. Forming close bonds with such people over two years will revolutionize the way you think, act and respond to situations around you. These schools realize that potential for success can be displayed in a number of ways not just by detailed knowledge of a particular subject, This is why Harvard may admit an applicant with a very good GPA and GMAT who has accomplished a great feat such as leading a team of Mountain climbers over the Everest in record time and deny another applicant who has a perfect 4.0 GPA, MSc with Distinction, C.F.A and even a PHD but absolutely no extracurricular accomplishments.

Also very important are the Alumni Networking opportunities available at these top schools. Be it a career on Wall Street or in a top Consulting firm or even as an Entrepreneur, It is a great help if you have valuable connections. Certain schools like Harvard have alumni in virtually every sphere of American (and global) society, You just need to look up the notable alumni of these top business schools; this alone is enough motivation to get a top MBA, (George Bush, Henry Paulson, Our very own Bayo Ogunlesi are all Harvard Alumni), Harvard is a LEADERSHIP FACTORY, Other Schools such as Wharton, Columbia, Stern or Chicago boast probably the highest number of alumni that work on Wall Street, Stanford Alumni on the other hand are typically the pride of Silicon Valley,

If for instance your dream is a fulfilling career in Goldman , JP Mogan or a similar firm, an MBA from a school like Wharton or Columbia is probably the surest way in, Different schools also have their particular specialties. This is specifically why I said at the beginning of this post that you need to determine exactly what you want out of life before you dole out a 100Grand on an MBA, If you know all you desire is to be a top shot in one of Nigeria's commercial banks, do not waste your money on an MBA, Simply bringing in Billions of Naira in Deposits will get you to your promised land, the MBA is for people with far bigger dreams,

To my distinguished colleague who would rather spend the 100+ Grand on a business venture, I daresay that is a very noble idea once you have done your homework well, If you have a really great idea, go for it by all means. It is important to note however that top MBAs also focus on building entrepreneurs. A number of successful young entrepreneurs take a break and go to business school for two years to gain valuable insights and make even more valuable contacts. The teaching in the top MBA programmes is revolutionary, These programmes make great use of Case Studies that present some of the most complex business issues that exist today and even issues that they anticipate will exist in the future. Students are encouraged to THINK beyond the limits they have previosly set for themselves, analyse these issues and tackle them while in a classroom environment, Top programmes typically hold Business Plan Contests, The winner of such contests in some cases may receive funding and alumni support to bring the plan to reality. I believe the MBA, while in no way a neccessity if you are on an entrepreneural track, is also udoubtedly HIGHLY USEFUL as a lot of the concepts taught are very relevant in starting and running your own business successfully. Once again, a glance at the notable alumni of top schools like Stanford and Harvard will reveal the number of successful entrepreneurs that have been groomed in these formidable institutions.

An MBA is a lot more than the typical academic qualification, It is also very professional in nature providing you networking opportunities your peers can only dream of, The top MBAs also prepare you for Global Business Opportunities and ensure you do not remain a 'LOCAL CHAMPION' in your chosen field, The MBA as I have said is not only useful to those who have Goldman Sachs or Mckinsey in mind, even as an Entrepreneur, this qualification could really provide the missing link (knowledge, concepts and contacts) necessary to take your business to greater heights.

It is an expensive venture but one I DEFINITELY choose to invest in, Like my friend DAVIDIF, I am an absolute GOLDMAN SACHS FANATIC and I am not ashamed to say so, This is why I intend to go to a TOP business school in the very near future, As I have said repeatedly, let your ULTIMATE GOALS AND DREAMS determine your decision on whether or not to pursue an MBA, Never be a victim of 'CROWD ACTION', Only dead fish swim with the stream, If you've got what it takes and you want to make an impact on the GLOBAL BUSINESS scene, then an MBA may be just the thing for you.

Finally, research has proven that the Economic value of an MBA is directly related to the status of the school you choose to attend, Mega paying corporate establishments like Goldman, Morgan Stanley, Blackstone, KKR etc are very UNLIKELY to recruit out of certain less prestigious schools. You honestly cannot expect Harvard Business School and University of Maryland's Smith Business School to send their grads to the same companies, Complain as you want, it is not impossible but certainly very unlikely to see a Smith MBA in a firm like The Carlyle Group, That is just the way it is, My advice: do all you can to make yourself the ideal candidate for the top schools, this will give you prestige, virtually limitless opportunities, more confidence and certainly MORE VALUE FOR YOUR MONEY,

I REST MY CASE.

@i_laugh, i admit KPMG hasnt FULLY materialized yet but since wen did it become a bad thing to seek information about a firm you might be moving to in the near future, So i really dont understand wot u mean by unnecessary questions,
And there definitely are intelligent pple on nairaland, At least I know Im intelligent, If u feel ure not, its too bad,
Thanks anyway, but in the future, if u aint got an answer to the question that's bein asked, ure better off keeping ur opinion to yourself, Goodbye

Hey friends I need some URGENT advice on a pressing issue, Is quitting a MARKETING job at Zenith bank to go to KPMG a wise career move Started in Zenith just last December as an Executive Trainee so its not like im goin to lose any significant job progress I already made, Please I need really knowledgeable people to advice me here as I need to take a decision a.s.a.p, SALARY is certainly not my first priority in a job but does anyone have an idea of what KPMG PAYS TO FRESH GRADUATES.


P.S (I REALLY HATE THE WHOLE MARKETING THING, ITS JUST NOT MY SORT OF JOB, RUNNING FROM PILLAR TO POST TO MEET TARGETS EVERY MONTH, LEFT TO ME I'D QUIT FOR KPMG AT THE DROP OF A HAT, I JUST NEED SOME OPINIONS OF THE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE OF NAIRALAND, THANKS GUYS!!!

obamaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanx Pal, It worked, Ive been able to complete the application, I guess I dont hav 2 worry bout duplication anymore cos im sure the others weren't even submitted, Do hav a gr8 day, God bless

Hey house, Pls for those who hav filled the online application for Oando, How does one submit the form, I dont get any submit option after uoloading my certificates, It just shows that the upload was successful, but doesent give me the option to click a button to submit, Does uploading the certificates immediately end the application process and submit the form? Ive now done it about twice, I hope Im not guilty of duplication! Please urgent advice and information on any similar experiences are needed!!!

Same for me as well, ive been tryin 2 find the form for ages

Lost is a crappy series, especially wen compared to the masterpiece that is prison break

Space is a wonderful place, no dumb people that dominate the human race

Of all countries, we had to choose freakin Iran!!! Ahmadinejad land! A country Israel and the U.S consider a threat, a country that believes Israel should be wiped off the map! is it that our leaders are retarded or wot? Me im takin my kaya and im leavin on a concorde plane, I dont know wen ill b back again!

Sorry 2 hurt ur feelings man,
Im in awe of Cass but I cant help bein a bit sore about the fact that a 740/800 wasnt sufficient to get me in even tho they specified that a GMAT score would b required for those with non-finance backgrounds, their GMAT requirement for their MBA program is 600!!! Wot more could i possibly do? Ur school broke my heart,

Ill hold u to the starbucks coffee offer wen we get there, Just pick me up at 85 Broad Street, (Goldman Sachs New York, H.Q).Im confident I wont even hav 2 reapply next year, The same Cass business School fellows that rejected me will surely reconsider, Ive got unshakable faith in God, the Lord most high for whom absolutely nothin is impossible!! Peace bro

@ Kadman
Ure now officially my new BEST FRIEND!! Im so glad ive found another AMBITIOUS wall street fan! From my user name, Goldmann (coined from Goldman Sachs) u can tell that im absolutely obsessed.
I actually took and murdered the GMAT in Abuja in May, To the glory of God i had a total of 740(97th%) wit 49(89th%) in quant,42(95th%) in Verbal and a perfect 6.0(89th%) in the Analytical Writing Assessment,
I actually applied to Cass Business School in London for the Msc in Investment Management but it seems my 740 isnt good enough for the imperialist pricks! i was denied admission!
So basically thats y im considering the States cos they appreciate GMAT SCORES more and they also hav foundation courses in a number of schools for pple wit unrelated first degrees like me (Bsc Geography) Univ of Ibadan
Lets keep in touch PAL, we might need each other someday, See u very soon on WALL STREET! Amen!

Hi comrades, Please i need some KNOWLEDGEABLE advice on a very pressing issue,
I'm roundin up my Nysc in less than a month and. I'm considering doin a Masters in Finance at Freeman school of Business, Tulane University.
The business school is ranked no. 10 in the US (for FINANCE). MY question is : How easy is it to get an Investment Banking job preferably in New York after my degree? also how easy is it to make my stay in the US permanent after my studies? I'm considering taking a VERY LARGE LOAN to finance my degree so im going to need a high payin US Job to b able to pay bak, Is this gamble a wise one?
STRICTLY KNOWLEDGEABLE CONTRIBUTIONS PLEASE!!!

Hi people, yesterday I received a mail 4rom the GSE Administrator that some company called HP energy nigeria is recruiting, application is based on GSE scores, ive got 2 questions for the good folks of nairaland

1. Pls has anyone actually been employed by this GSE stuff? cos im just a wee bit sceptical, Something just seems a lil shady
2. Dont want to seem paranoid but does anyone know anything at all bout the HP energy Nigeria? Checked their site but its so bleak, i clicked on management team and the message "COMING SOON" appears, dont know but i need legit info bout d company, compensation, locations etc

Brethren, i cant help but notice that threads concerning the recent Guinness online test hav bin relegated to other pages, I was one of the lucky chaps who was 'UNABLE' to complete the online test, i did 20 questions and when i clicked next, that was it! I mailed Guinness immediately but now 3days after, stil not even a reply, if u had d same issue,have u bin rescheduled or retested or woteva?, im feelin so rundown especially cos d test was goin so well, (i took d ACTUAL GMAT on the 3rd of May and scored 740/800, freakin 97th percentile!! I was sure to kill d guinness test but they messed up! Enough rambling, anyone heard anythin from them?

Abioye Coker-Dickens, BATCH B 2007, Gombe State, Kwami L.G.A, Im out of this shithole 0n sept. 11. hopefully . Any other Gombe state corps members in the house, I hail!!!

I dont know why these guinness people just keep disgracing themselves. I started d test, did 20 questions perfectly, but the final page just refused to load. If ure not up 2 the task do regular tests and stop wastin my damn time. JERK OFFS

People please help me, I registered for the GMAT at Dolman Networks in Abuja, Its been over a month now and I still havent received a confirmation letter, Is this normal, Does it usually take this long? All advice appreciated, Thanks

Similar thing happened 2 me wen I just started school, Bout 7 guys came up 2 me after an evening lecture, They were quite blunt, Told me to join or else, I said I couldn't, One slapped me, another punched me, Yet Another kicked me,
They told me to fill an application form at gun-point, I said ok, that I just needed to get my biro from the car
They didn't see me reach into my glove-compartment, I moved the safetyy swith on my Smith&Wesson from off to on
I aimed through the windshield,
The first guy's head exploded like in a cloud of blood, brains and gore, I squeezed the trigger 15 more times until the magazine was empty
I stepped out of the car, 6 of them were dead, one was groaning in pain,
I turned him over so he could look me in the eyes,
And I said, You messed with the wwrong Jambite u son-of-a-bitch
I reloaded and shot him in the left eye,
He died a blind man,
My advice 2 u bro is this,
Buy yourself a gun, I can hook u up, Call me on 0803-SHOOT-A-CULTIST today, Ure saving ur own life

I second "Funkbaby's" post

, Was also on the arik air flight from Lagos to Jos that she talked about, Was on the 7th of January 2008, I think the man that refused to switch off his phone is an slowpoke, But, the

other passenger should hav controlled his temper, Thats where anger management comes in, The passenger on my flight was equally stuipid but, no

one lost his temper and got in a physical fight with him, so in the end only the blooming idiot got thrown off the flight,

I HAVE SPOKEN

Some stupid game called "Viking" or sth like that, Escape from monkey island is also incredibly dumb, Sorry 2 divert, but the all time stupidest game on the planet is "superman" on the now deceased Nintendo 64

bingo!