₦airaland Forum

Pentecostalism is the worst thing that have happened to Christianity , They are only known for hatred , confusion and wealth acquisition at the detriment of the average deluded puppet

sKeetz:
Christianity is the most confused religion ever. Anybody can wake up and interpret the same bible anyhow to suit whatever purpose. Yet they claim they are inspired by the Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit of confusion.

My brother u hit the nail on the head

Note: Christianity is the most confused religion in the part of Africa that practice it and not in the world because of the average mental capacity of Africans

The Royal family should not do the mistake of allowing the Pentecostal money mongers to build their religious biz house there cos they will surely regret it

Primesky:
The blood of anybody who would have found grace in that bus, is on your head. You God, but the devil is forever defeated. Have you ever seen light defeated by darkness before?.

Then y are u still spending ur precious time day and night in the church battling a defeated devil

IF someone call the average citizens of this nation an educated illiterate now it will looks an insult, but imagine Nigerians readingdifferent lessons from it , which had led to the greatest confusion ever among the so called Christian which I think does not happen among the Western world

so critically looking at Nigerians predicament u will see that our problems among others is lack of education,

Note:many can claim to be certified but we all no certificate can be gotten by the least person provided u can pay the price

Nigeria is in this situation cos we have citizens who are too gullible to gain freedom from the shackles of political and religious money mongers

I imagine this nation been controlled l, embezzled and dupe by few political and religious money mongers ,all because the citizens are too gullible

brodalokie:
I am not the usual Christian you meat everyday, I was tutored under a prophetic ministry. I speak the oracles of God. I am on this thread to support it because it is scriptural to tithe but I am not a money preacher.
Finally, the word of God is not to be debated or politicised. It is the absolute. May the Lord bless you all...

Please go and argue with like of YBJoshua Olukoya others who said otherwise and I wish u good luck in ur state of religious confusion

brodalokie:
Let's discuss about the salvation of your life. This topic is not available for debate. It's a law already

said by someone whose salvation status is unknown self righteous hypocritical religious bigot

brodalokie:
Let's discuss about the salvation of your life. This topic is not available for debate. It's a law already

said by someone whose salvation status is unknown
self righteous hypothetical religious artist

OkaiCorne:
Stop dodging my questions and give me a direct answer.

1) Where did Jesus or the Apostles collect tithe?

2) Where did God instruct tithes to be paid monetarily?

3) Where was it written in the Bible that the Gentile church paid tithes... especially after the meeting of the Apostles held in Jerusalem in Acts 15?

4) Are the Jews robbing God since they are not paying tithes to any Levite or in any temple?

Please stop wasting ur time with that illiterate and religious bigot his types of people are the reason people stuck in confusion about religious beliefs

OkaiCorne:
Stop twisting scriptures abeg...which one is spiritual Jew?

1) Where did God demand tithes to be paid monetarily?

2) After the meeting of the Apostles in Acts 15, were the gentile church required to pay tithes (one of the requirements of the Mosaic Law) to be considered as Christians too?

3) Where did Jesus or the Apostles collect tithes?

4) As we speak, the Jews in Israel have no Levites or temple to offer their tithes, hence they don't pay tithes....are the Jews also robbing God?

The only thing I am concerned about is how i manage to find myself in this part of the world where the only thing importantancy is attached is religion and tithe among others crucial things
For God sake are we the only humans on earth ,has anyone heard the whites debating on religion and tithe every day. and that is where I believe this nation will never marginalized

brodalokie:
During the days of Jesus and Paul the people paid taxes to the federal government but tithing is a spiritual ritual and the church of God is separate from the state.

Paul talks about the importance of tithing in the books of Hebrew and Romans too, I think... How that the Fathers paid tithe to God while they were yet in Abraham's belly (unborn)... It is a sacred thing, TITHING.

na wa o,pls don,t expose ur ignorance further

ottersberger:
Erm...

Why is this even a topic of discussion?.

Who in his right mind will want to question the quest which Freeze has embarked upon, unless you are one of the many lazy, miracle seeking Nigerians that populate our country space.

A man is teling you to wakeup and smell the coffee, and instead of using your free given brains to "maybe" understand where he is headed, you'd rather resort to name calling and assinine assumptions.

Now, Lets crunch the facts:

Nigeria has 23,000 registered churches. Of these, one church alone has 34,000 branches. Even our banks are more modest.

According to worldpoverty.io, Nigeria has 83 million or over 46% of its population in the poverty list. Even India with a population of well over a billion people is doing much better on the anti poverty struggle with 79 million.

Now, India is not a christian country. That means that most of its people do not pay Tithes as the Tithing law is not given to then, neither was it given to any Nigerian. The very same goes for china, UAE or Japan, who are all world leaders in development and provide a life of dignity to its citizens.

How then can we as Nigerians, and in good conscience, justify the thousands of churches that litter our streets or the noise makers that will not allow people sleep in the wee hours, because according to them, they are called to minister, yet we are bedevilled with every societal ill imaginable and poverty?. All these despite our Tithes, which was not given onto us in the first place.

Which one of these daddy Go's is of Levitical Ancestory?, or are we now to accept that oratory skill and the ability to conjur, now equates to hard facts?.

How plausible then is the claim by Nigerian pastors, that only those who Tithe to them will "see" financial freedom, while non Tithers like yours truly and Freeze, are doomed to condemnation by God, because in their warped and 419 minds, we are stealing from God?.

Also, how is it that with all our universities, both Federal, State and private, we produce practically nothing, yet we have the most churches, while 7 out of the 10 wealthiest pastors in the world are Nigerians?.

Freeze has so far backed up his arguements against Tithing to a Nigerian pastor with the bible. Not his bible, not his conjuring, but hard cold fact and plausible explanation from the scriptures.

Now, pray tell, what arguement, rooted in the scripture other than emotional blackmail and bragging about flying private planes since 1972 has any one of your numerous daddy Go's proffered as a rejoinder to his blasphemy?.

I hold no brief for Freeze, I now understand why politicians will forever hold Nigeria and Nigerians to ransom. A generation of lazy miracle seekers, who have refused to use their most basic capital, common sense. But will rather troop en mass to churches, to seek that which God gracefully bestowed on you at creation from a man. How can anyone blame them for milking your stupidity?.

Nobody will be correct to discourage donations and offerings to the church. Even God's work require finance, But to reawaken and misinterpret a a clear doctrine for personal enrichment is wrong and ought to be arrested by every chiristian.

U have done quite well, as for me I think I can't say any much cos no matter what, how u try, u can't inculcate any thing in a dead brain, it will take more than words to free people who are under some kinds of spell, and u can't redeem or save those who can't be saved

Dalexicographer:
IF YOU MAKE IT IN LIFE, CALL ME A BASTARD!!

and what is ur definition of making in life

And don't tell me is by acquiring earthly properties cos that will show us how irreligious u are

frosbel2:
Nothing will happen to him, absolutely nothing - your so called men of gog are powerless!

not entirely powerless, they have the power to defraud people of their hard earned money and giving them fake prosperity hope

uba1991:
so d church did not av d brain to reason how a general in d army was able to get 35million to dish out even though his salary is nt up to 500k. Infact religion is d worst thing dat ever happened to dis country

The religions bigots will soon come after u

walegees:
Not a fan of insult irrespective of the target.

However, if men of god cannot detect ill-gotten gifts or moneys coming into the wallet of the most high, I don't think such men should be trusted in matters of spiritual delivery.
it takes a lot of courage to put this men of god in their proper place and take charge of your own life.

Freeze should know that Oyedepo didn't force anybody to be a sheeple, the same way Dangote didn't force anybody to buy his products.

When time comes, the blind shall see and the fake guide shall be discarded.

I think I will disagree with u on this point, I think those people are under the influence of some kind spell or something

Anyone who can,t see the hypocrisy and the fraudulent minds of these so called men of god is physically n spiritually blind

successinlife:
I am not in support nor in defense of either of them. My point is that freeze should talk about other important issues facing the country.

he has been talking about this n u can help talk about others he is not the only one to talk about all things

dermmy:
Freeze should attack politicians and leave these men alone.

these men ar more greedy than politicians, how many politicians flown private

adajiboyy:
freeze the anger of God is slow to come but very powerful and fierce when it comes. remember the children that called Elijah bald headed they all died after the made fun of God's servant. your end would be so bad and none would save you. young school girls are been kidnapped and raped and you don't say anything, politicians steal out Money and say monkeys do it and you don't say anything, buhari is making mockery of the goodwill of many Nigerians that voted him by giving us bad leadership you no talk anything na oyedepo and adeboye be your problem.

stop this things, the same money they stole is the ones they lodged to ur pastors acc, that,s y ur pastors will never Complain

Tosyn99:
It's high time you woke up from your obsolete mentality guy, anytime you see a man of God prospering, most of you shout of tithe and the likes. some of these great men of God have taken a very mammoth risk when it comes to investment, when they begin to reap the reward of the risk they have taken, then you begin to shout aimlessly. No one noticed them when risthey were suffering, now that God has blessed thof ofeir work you begin to say another. Just let us mind whatever we say to any man of God, either genuine or fake. you are not the judge.

what kind of risks or investment ar u talking about other than the instilling of tales and delusional threat of spiritual curse to defraud thousands if not 4the lately intervention from freeze

diasporaman:
This is not tithe money. You guys should free Apostle

is it ritual money, or the cleagyman owns other major biz than church bz

KDULAR:
How you give is not same as what or how much you give

everyone know what the speaker meant we don't need ur help

The man is as funny as his shoe

FriendofGod:
If you want to tithe as they did under the law, then you have got to tithe the right way.

Words such as the devourer, storehouse all signified that tithes was food and not money. God promised to increase their harvest and stop devourers like locusts from destroying their farms. Only farm owners and cattle owners were expected to tithe and they were to tithe a tenth on the increase in farm produce. Does your salary increase every week? So, what increase are you tithing on?

You can't have the right personal relationship with God without studying His Word.

This tithe matter will make some one to imagine if God 4get or purposely not add a vital part to most black man medulla oblongata.... as in most black folks are too foolish

Religious bigots at it again

So with all u claims to know about the Bible u are still ignorant of the numbers of Abraham wives &children

Penalty82:
No genuine Christian will stop paying his or her tithe. Every genuine Christian knows that Freeze has problems.

What makes u think u are ,, jenuine,, by paying ur tithe

u have been robbed of ur natural gift

deebsman1:
Sir @your comment, that is the biggest problem we are facing as human beings, the black man's biggest problem.... 'hypocrisy'

I think we have not really achieved the obj of education, as many are still speaking like someone without any symptoms of education.

BabaAduras:
I think you need to get your facts right and clear you mind of "Pastor Worshipping", start believing BIBLE not PASTORS. stop depending on what the Pastorprenuers will quote on the pulpit. ".

I think u just hit the nail on the head,this is exactly what is causing the dichotomy among Christians

the gullible vomit any thrash they swallow from their pastors without any proof unlike the Greek of Berea in the book of act ,,after receive the word they went and search the scripture weather those things were sob

many Nigerians need to go back to primary school

erico2k2:
who told you I live in your ghetto? slippers nor get size??I live in a better city than your President as we speak!

Chairman u are just very lucky, Nigeria is not a place someone should stay