₦airaland Forum

erico2k2:
who told you I live in your ghetto? slippers nor get size??I live in a better city than your President as we speak!

pls tell me where u ar ,I like to no

erico2k2:
Wetin I get pay pass church so why will I downgrade??
Guy grow up abeg!

Oga u are a chronic liar nothing pays like church in this ghetto, not even oil company

deebsman1:
Freeze my guy, it's actually one of them that is still tackling them.

Ever since their hero GEJ stepped out of office, Oritsajofor has been more than silent, to those always claiming all was propaganda that third hero GEJ never stole, this is another obvious fact starring at them,since the means of the easy money they were using to fund the lavish lifestyle have stopped, we can all see the resultant effects. Buhari may not be a good manager but GEJ put us in this mess and for me, honestly speaking, Buhari is trying his best even though he's a muda4ka but a million miles better than GEJ.

It's until Nigerians start embracing facts before their could be meaningful development in this country.

And what are the probability they will ever embrace fact judging from their crude mentality

bloodofthelamb:
It is heartbreaking what is happening today... Jesus is the goodnews/gospel from the beginning to the end..

Many will not agree cos they don't even no the basic objective of what they ar into, all they want to hear us is riches and prosperity, not knowledge to understand the intention of God,,,,,, these peoples mind worst than the Pharisees

petra1:
i don't get you

the threat of missing eternity , the illusion of divine curse, the the threat of being in abject poverty (tight)are all conjures to scare the gullible

Statsocial:
The same Rome which exchanged money for indulgences abegii. And mind you I have American White Christian Friends who are Tithers so shift.

Believe me the tithing was introduced to them by ur bible-armed robbers here in naija

bloodofthelamb:
I don't know for them o. They have turned The Most High to a security personal, like the one in my area. If you don't pay them, they won't keep watch.

Nothing in us, or we have can possibly afford the precious gift of GOD.

Truly the ignorance of of Christian has makes many to questions the authenticity of the religion

but the bible is very straightforward and easy on all human but some still allow pastors to put Israelites yoke and burden on them even when the bible says curse is everyone who live according to the laws cos Christ has redeemed us from the curse

I think the bottom line is that some still choose to be under the curse if the mosaic laws, and the message of the Cross is foolishnesses to them

petra1:
But thats how it has always been even in the old testament. every one has the choice to do or not to do. no one put a gun on the head of another

treat if missing heaven is more than pointing gun at ur head

petra1:
So whats your point ? is it wrong to give to God. ?

No but not under compulsion, or obligation but cheerfully giving as u intended to do

Statsocial:
Lol the way some people talk about this tithing thing as though it is a Nigerian invention never ceases to amaze me.

The roman that invented the religion never built its doctrine on tithing ,but the black race took the it as means of exploiting the masses

jeruzi:
There is no sense in this post

It can't make sense to u cos u ar irredeemable from the illusions of hypocrisy of ur God of men

dayo2me:
what makes you any different from the supposed gullible christians?




a gullible calling others gullible is what...?

a gullible like u will always think others partake in ur unfortunate mediocre

bloodofthelamb:
Tithe is not an insurance against satanic encroachment, JESUS is. A believer has been placed above Satan and his demons in CHRIST JESUS.

Satan cannot touch a believer who knows his identity in JESUS.

pls help be to ask that man y money is the bone of contention to establish relationships with God even when God says he did not need anything from us than praise,,,, is God now mmm or baba ijebu


many people has just been mentally robbed in this Christian race

All this tithing, first fruit, brouhaha of a thing make me understood the average IQ of Nigerian Christian
This set of people (pastors) since they established themselves from the first church ,took advantage of the poverty in the nation and promise miracles of prosperity instead of salvation, and making u to pay a compulsory offering, tithe, first fruit, seed,special seed, prosperity seed, categories of donation etc as a conditions 4 harnessing ur glory and even a gateticket 4 heaven

Their church branches increase by thousand per annum building mansions home and abroad, private xpensive uni on the run, series of xoensive cars ,multi billion building project here and there, series of private jets at their disposal all with the gullible hard earned money and they simply tells u to wait for a miracle of ten fold returned ,but more we go, more poverty increase, on the other hand ,the more the church pastors net worth increased

Nigerian Christians (in most cases) is the most gullible, humans on earth

That is y I said Christianity is a confused religion as a result of ignorance of the acclaimed practitioners ,,Jesus though in human form simply mean or represent the word of God ,,,,,and the word became flesh and dwell among men,,,,,,the word which is use to create the word

Don't just call urself s Christian without the deep knowledge of what u ar into

alBHAGDADI:
You can say you don't think he's wrong in his claims especially when you both haven't been able to prove such claim with standard scriptures not quoted wrongly.

You speak of barbarism in the Bible. Mention one and also accompany it with the story behind it and see if it wasn't justified. Now, compare that to the Quran which gives commands to be followed and never disobeyed even in today's world.

The best thing to do instead of what you wrote is to prove my post wrong with Scriptures.

Pls, if you can't prove how Muslims worship the same God Christians Worship, then it's best you exit the thread instead of speaking on things you know nothing about. Thanks

In my own opinion, Jesus in the first place simply mean the word of God ,not to be seen only as next to God in organogramme so either Muslims or Christian has their own instruction(word)and the duty to follow suit

Come to think of it ,Abraham has 8 children's and god promise to bless them all ,and I believe God has a relationships with all of them,and they all worship God in their own way according to inst
ruction given to them ,so don't even think ur own way and believe (religion) is the only way,because that will show us how narrow and sentimental ur thinking appears

imagine the old testament event, will u believe that God instructed all those massacres and inhumanly laws which he latter find to be ineffective and replaced them with easy and effective ones,of wish ur pastors agree except on tithing and first fruit ,,,so how can u conclude they are not serving the same God cos of varies in instruction,

Have u ever notice the confusion and variation in Christianity believe, y did u not assert that Christianity is not serving the same God

see u are only finding fault where there is none, the bible says the word of a poor wise man is not taken ,but the word of a rich foolish man ,,,weather you agree or not that man is more knowledgeable than ur GO biblically,,,,, until we all comes to our senses the nation and the Christian race will continue to be loosing value cos of people life u

dallyemmy:
OPEN HEAVENS DAILY DEVOTIONAL

DATE: TUESDAY 9TH JANUARY 2018

THEME: DO YOU DESIRE TO BE HEALED?


MEMORISE:
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 1 Peter 2:24


READ: James 5:14-16

14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.


MESSAGE

It is unfortunate that many children of God are ignorant of the truth that healing is part of the package of redemption. Neglecting what is their inheritance in Christ, such people seek after inferior channels for relief. My prayer is that God will open your eyes to comprehend in your spirit the reality of healing through the stripes of Jesus. I thank God that the realisation of this truth was one of the earliest testimonies I experienced in my Christian walk. Before I met Jesus Christ and received Him as my personal Lord and Saviour, there was no month when I would not be attacked by fever. Any month I managed to escape breaking down as a result of fever, I would celebrate. However, when I met the Lord and He opened my eyes to His provision for healing, I grabbed it with both hands, and for many decades since, He has been my Healer.


What should you do if you desire to be healed? The Holy Spirit gives the answer in James 5:14:

“Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:”

Prayer is the key here. Due to unbelief and unwillingness to pray, most people prefer other channels of healing, though very costly, to the healing that is freely provided through the stripes of Jesus. Beloved, if you desire to be healed of those sicknesses that have defied traditional and orthodox medicine, you must be ready to pray. Moreover, the truth is that more often than not, sickness is brought about by the sin of disobedience. For this reason, James 5:15 says,

“And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.”

Disobedience to simple laws of hygiene can bring about sickness. Furthermore, failure to sleep properly, or working round the clock because you want more money, is disobeying the law of Sabbath (the law that governs taking a day of rest). In addition, according to James 5:16, if you desire healing, you must confess your faults to and pray for one another. There are lots of sicknesses and the diseases in the Body of Christ that have defied all manner of prayers and medication. This could be the result of holding grudges against anyone. We refuse to forgive each other because we don’t want to admit our faults against one another. Beloved, if you want to be healed, take note of what the Lord is telling today, and the healing virtue of His stripes shall flow through your body to make you whole.


PRAYER POINT:
Father, please let the stripes of my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, heal all my infirmities without exception today.


BIBLE IN ONE YEAR: Genesis 21-23 and Revelation 8:1-12

AUTHOR: PASTOR E. A. ADEBOYE

HYMN 8: THE GREAT PHYSICIAN

1. The Great Physician now is near,
The sympathizing Jesus;
He speaks the drooping heart to cheer,
Oh, hear the voice of Jesus!

Chorus:
Sweetest note in seraph song,
Sweetest Name on mortal tongue;
Sweetest carol ever sung,
Jesus, blessed Jesus.

2. Your many sins are all forgiv’n,
Oh, hear the voice of Jesus;
Go on your way in peace to heav’n,
And wear a crown with Jesus.

3. All glory to the dying Lamb!
I now believe in Jesus;
I love the blessed Saviour’s Name,
I love the Name of Jesus.

4. His Name dispels my guilt and fear,
No other name but Jesus;
Oh, how my soul delights to hear
The precious Name of Jesus!

U no dey hear word ,don't post this thing again

pls is the curse in the book of Malachi on tithing, only attributed to tithing or other mosaic laws

I think in the book of deut ,moses read the laws and pronounced a curse on anybody who will not abide by it and the people shall say ,,amen,,

Also the book of Gala says curse is everyone who did not continue in all the laws(mosaic law)and to do them

Now the question is that y the curse emphasis is only on tithe and not other mosaic laws

Elparaiso:
Better than the dead? You know how many "dead" are living eternally in "heaven"? The dead better pass them sef.

that is y u said people ar ignorant of their doctrines,,,,, the Bible says the days of death is better than the day of birth

OkCornel:
Jesus FULFILLED the obligations of the old covenant through His death on the cross, as such those under the new covenant are no longer under the OBLIGATORY BURDENS that comes with the old covenant...

Jesus has given a new covenant to His followers which is LOVE. Through sincere Love for God and man, you have pleased God.

even Matthew 25 v 31-46 and James 1 vs 27 attests to that...

I would have like to no u personally,, I don't no people of such medulla oblongata level exist in this platform ,,,,,,,believe me if everybody has understood that simple verb as used there ,Christianity would have been a meaningful organization in our society

asuustrike2009:
All these grace preachers
Tithing dates far back before the Mosaic law. It is a covenant practice born out of revelation and insight into the deep things of God.
Father Abraham gave tithes.
Jacob gave his tithe.
And if we are Abraham's children and are now partakers of Abraham's blessings, then we must equally engage the deeds of Abraham (Hebrews 7).
Many are busy shouting, "we are now under grace, and not under the law, therefore the law should be done away with". Is this only regarding tithing?
I hope grace has now nullified the law that says thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit fornication, thou shall not lie, thou shall not worship any other god besides me, etc.
Many have become abusers of grace because they don't understand what grace is and what it has come to do.
Grace is the divine ability to do God's will without limitation where ordinarily, men would fail. Grace rides on the wheels of Mercy.
It is this mercy (divine pardon) that everyone enjoys today as a result of the blood that Jesus shed on Calvary. That is why, when many ought to have died instantly after committing a sin, they live on. Mercy suspends at outright almost instant consequence for sin and gives many chances for repentance.
The death of Jesus didn't abolish tithing because if it does, then it also abolished the sin of murder, idolatory and fornication.
His death only grants us divine pardon from the immediate consequences of sin.

I am surprise about people if ur type only vomiting what u swallow from ur pastors

OkCornel:
Was Jesus addressing His followers or the Pharisees?

In that same verse, did Jesus support or condemn animal sacrifice which is also a part of the Law? If He didn't, why aren't you doing animal sacrifice?...abi is it not part of the Law that Pharisees (not Christians) are meant to keep?

See ....no matter how u talk ,,a ------------@40 is a ---------4ever

as 4 me I am tired of this tithe trend of a thing

OkCornel:
In Matthew 23v23, was Jesus addressing the Pharisees (observers of the Law) or His followers (Christians)?

Are you aware that the Law was not yet fulfilled by Jesus in Matthew 23v23 and animal sacrifice were still ongoing in the temple by then?

Are you aware that Jesus had full respect for the Law such that when he healed the Lepers, he still instructed them to visit the Priests to be cleansed in line with the Mosaic Laws?

If Jesus heals you of an infirmity today...have you asked yourself why you no longer need to visit any Priest (not Physician ooo) to be cleansed in line with the Mosaic Laws?

If the Law is no longer binding on Christians...how be it that tithing is still binding on Christians?

One very funny thing is that many religious fanatic ranting here does not even no the meaning of fulfill as used in that verse

prove me wrong by explaining how u understood it.....and that is the major course of their confusion on the meaning of the verse

asuustrike2009:
Stop misquoting Paul. Don't imply where there is nothing. If you are to draw your point on tithing, it must be expressly written stating that " don't or no need for tithing ".

I don't have any hope 4 people like u ..may be only in the next world

asuustrike2009:
Jesus said in that same verse of Matthew 5:17 that he didn't abolish the law.

u ar too gullible,,, he only said that to avoid certain accusation from the high priest and hypocrites like u while systematically changing the law,....y ar not ur pastor practising all the laws of moses covenant.

I pray u receive some sense this year

asuustrike2009:
Because it wasn't disapproved by same Jesus you illustrated. Jesus never spoke against it

sheeple ,,,read heb 7:1-19 Paul openly speaks about its ineffectiveness on Christianity but cos u can't read ,only believing on ur pastors, hence u ar brainwashed and become mentally imprisoned

felixomor:
Receive knowledge.
Testament written in that scripture i quoted is different from "testament" as written on back of KJV bible.

Receive knowledge

sorry,,,,,,,,,but u ar a disaster to ur generation for that ignorance,,,,,,,,, testament is testament

HsLBroker:
Na so something I can't mention they start. What do we call this now?

religious madness

ipobarecriminals:
even person wey struggle to put/drop 50/100 naira in a offering basket go open thread and post rubbish.Do dey force u people to pay tithe/or those who pay their tithe complain to u?Nonsense. Feel free to go open ur own church/go worship in freezer house.The same pipu that can't give alms/help the needy dey complain Tufia!

u will never get simple sense

milkymesh:
In Gen 6:6 He regretted that he made man.Some translation rendered regretted as "repent". You regret an action or inaction you likely do not the outcome. Creating man was a mistake and God regretted it.
We learn from our mistake, isn't it?

U can imagine our Christian answering question to pls their believe instead of the bible assertion ,the bible clearly made us no that God learn from experience and also prone to mistake but when u make such statement the religious gullible will attack u and brand u an Antichrist I just hope 4 the day Christians will get their own sense of reasoning other than their GO and pastors, and I think that is what is making the religion unrealistic

asuustrike2009:
If you don't study you can't understand. Secondly your mind isn't open from your last statement

Even ur mentols don't no the bible ,only acquitted to the verses they use to exploit gullible like u ,that us no one of them can defend their course on tithing till date, i no people of ur type hardly have chance of knowing reality,cos u are already in a state of mental slavery and pls stop guoting me cos I ain't in ur category of people

GiantParrot:
The question is irrelevant because there is no justification for Christian tithing. Nigerian Christians would've been saved from these religious fraudsters if they were a little more like the Barean Christians who received Paul's message and went to verify from the scriptures that the message was true (Acts 17:11).

You cannot be more Christian than the first Christians who never paid any tithe. But instead made personal sacrifices to engage in charitable acts that bettered their community in line with Jesus' own teachings in Matthew 25:31-46.

These money grabbing fraudsters masquerading as religious Christian leaders are following from a tradition that started when the roman conqueror Charlemagne in 777AD merged the Church and the State and instituted tithing as a State law to be obeyed by all. It's amusing that our popular protestant preachers cannot see the irony in their continuance of the practice of tithing considering that Protestantism was started by Martin Luther on the basis of Sola Scriptura - that Christianity must be based solely on the scriptures and not on the traditions of the Church. And the scripture has no teaching on Christian tithing. Otherwise the so called men of God would have by now revealed the scriptural backing for their fraud.

This irony of protestant leaders straying away from the very foundation of prostetantism - sola scriptura, although amusing, is not surprising. As the 18th century French philosopher proclaimed: "When it is the question of money, everyone is of the same religion". Your Nigerian christian religious leaders of today are of the same stock as the extremely greedy roman catholic church leaders of Europe's dark ages.

If the nation has got 30% of ur types I would have got some hope of freedom from mental slavery of our people but as u can see urself this peoples does not a y evidence of been educated, or their version of education is that of swallowing any thing their superior said without proper research and conformation