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Difrent:
Saudi does not have a relationship with Israel.... But has normalized relationship with some Arab nations.
Yes Iran and Saudi differ ideologically but that Iran will nuke Mecca is a big fat lie.

Kim Jong UN Has nukes and as crazy as he is has he ever nuked anyone? So enough of all the LIES that Iran is few months away from a nuclear weapon that bibi has been lying about for 33 years.

Israel just wants to remain the only nuclear armed nation in the region so it can invade any country it wants and when.

Do you think Israel dare bomb Iran if it has nuclear weapons? That's the more reason they should be allowed to have it.
Israel that has nukes but keeps denying is the one trying to stop others , what a hypocrite nation.
Countries develop nuclear weapons to deter others from attacking them anyhow.
Mistake Ukraine made was to dismantle it's nuclear weapons, if it still has them, Putin fare not invade

You islamists cannot survive without lying!

Israel and Saudi Arabia don't see themselves as enemies but the same cannot be said of Iran and Saudi!

Israel and Saudi are currently talking about having business relationships. Saudi is only holding back because of the Palestinian conflict.

Iran shouts 'death to.isreal' all the time and have that ideology of obliterating the nation of Israel. They armed Hezbollah, Hamas and all those terrorist organizations for this same purpose! Your Quran has said you should not allow Christians and Jews to live, and that's exactly what Iran follows. Iran sees Saudi and all Sunni Muslims as infidels. They'll annihilate you for the same reason Boko haram attacks your mosques! Saudi will not be safe if Iran has nuclear weapons. Have you seen Saudi Arabia condemning Israel's attack on Iran?

madridguy:
He is working for his money so he will be pleased what is happening in Iran. I am also happy with Iran missiles are doing to the iron dummy.

At least you can confirm historically that he's not lying!

You black Muslims are really bereft of knowledge. Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar and most Sunni Arab nations are happy about what Israel is doing to Iran but you ignoramuses only see religion and not reason.

If Iran gets nuclear power, it will not hesitate to nuke your beloved Mecca because till date, Iran is a staunch enemy of Saudi Arabia. America has been protecting your Mecca, yet you empty islamic fanatics continue to chant 'death to America'. Israel is in good terms with Saudi Arabia. What does that tell you?

Iran is the one arming and sponsoring terrorists around the world. If Iran gets nuclear armed today, even you will not be safe. Use your head.

cezarman:
I just dey laff una. You don't serve God for food, money etc but you people will be praying for financial prosperity day and night, giving tithes and offerings because pastor said you'll be prosperous when you give.
Una too funny...
The only thing they even preach about in churches now is financial prosperity and you're here talking nonsense

Even your pastor go dey one side dey laff you sef

All what you listed above are for those practicing Christianity as a religion.

True worshippers don't practice religion. They serve God because they love God.

Anguldi:
Providing our needs nko, despite years of hardwork abi labour 🤷

If you chase God, provision will chase you automatically. If you chase provision while pretending to be serving God, you'll never have enough.

He was serving God for food, house, money and cars. Serving God for the wrong reasons. God cannot be deceived.

We serve God because we love Him. Not because we want cars or money!

Speaklove:
Hello .

There are more spiritual manipulations going on upon the earth that men are not aware of but only a few .

The agents of the kingdom of darkness poses more spiritual knowledge than an average Christian because the knowledge that those who explore the spirit realm among them saw it fit to document their experiences ,and to train other persons with such knowledge so that there can be perpetual interaction on with the realm they were able to trap on earth.

However Christians should not submit to any knowledge or book or doctrine or human opinion that is not in agreement with the mind of the scripture .
The word of the is the gate and the guard to the knowledge of truth .
Every knowledge ,wisdom or understanding is subject to the authority of God's word .

If you desire to know or acquire spiritual knowledge concerning these then you should pray to God and ask him to illuminate and inspire your heart while you study that subject through the lenses of the Bible .

Now .
The sun is a representation of father ,and the moon of mother while the stars represent sons . Genesis 37:9-10. (The story of Joseph )

The moon receives it light from the sun
As the woman (mother) receives her seed from the husband (father)

The sun has it's own light while the moon's light is from what the sun sowed into it .

Now the moon was ordained to rule over the night not the stars .
The stars are many but the moon is singular because there can only be one mother but the mother can have many children .
There can be many mothers with one child but a single mother with many children .
The moon brightens the night sky and sun stars shines under its light .

Remember Jesus.
the wise men from the east saw his star ,they were astrologers who understand that the stars speak of the offsprings ( Genesis 22:17.)

The stars speak of offspring (sons ,and daughters .)

The Angels where called stars in the book of Revelations ,men were called stars in the book of Daniel .
Stars represent both Angels and the sons of men
judges 5:20. Nehemiah 9:23.
Angels are heavenly sons of God .
They are the stars of heaven .
While men are the earthly sons of God they are the stars of the earth .

Look at this Scripture below .

Job 38:7
[7]When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?




Psalms 147:4
[4]He counts the number of the stars; He calls them all by name.

This in spiritual term speaks of the Angels ,and the (earthly) sons of God not the stars of the sky .


Speaking of Lucifer here the scripture says
Isaiah 14:13
[13]For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north;

Above the stars means : up high above all the Angels just has God's throne stood high above the angles . He is not talking about the stars we see in the night because that scenario played about before the creation of mankind .


Compare these two scriptures

Daniel 8:9-10
[9]And out of one of them came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the Glorious Land.
[10]And it grew up to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and some of the stars to the ground, and trampled them.


Revelation 12:3-4
[3]And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.
[4]His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born.


So stars speaks about men and through them the destiny of men can be read by astrology or other spiritual means .
The stars are like scrolls containing some details about those who live under the sun .

And every man has his or her own star.

While the moon is birth the light of the stars the sun impregnate it with the light .

Father - Sun- source of lights (eg.b bulb)
Mother -Moon - projector of a borrowed light (eg bulb)
Children- Stars - consumers of lights .

Witches ,astrologers warlocks ,shamans ,spirituals etc . All study and seek to understand the influence of these bodies and how to manipulate them .

The offer sacrifices during the full moon .
God commanded the Israelites of the old testament to offer new moon sacrifice to signify a new season .

So these people also offer sacrifice to renew allegiance ,and covenants to the various spirit they serve .

We humans greet ourselves during the new year period ,but for spirit people the new moon or the full moon is the beginning of a new season .
They don't count days to determine the newness of time rather they have at the moon to see how full or how blood red it has become .

Because it's is the time to start new things to strategize ideas and project .

I will stop here so that the reader can assimilate and grow gradually as they seek God for more of himself .

Well explained.

Thanks very much, and God bless you real good.

Exgee:
Hi guys,

I don't know what's wrong with me. Growing up, my best moment was whenever I was traveling(By road). I used to enjoy this.

But since I clocked 25, I no longer find it pleasurable traveling, I'm always scared of traveling. I fear that I may be involved in an accident that could maim or kill me. I have not been able to share this with anyone cos I don't know how to. Some years ago, my friend and I had a terrible ghastly accident that almost costed us our dear lives. We were returning back from the village in the early(6am) hours of the morning and before we would exit the village, the brakes of our vehicle(Lexus 350) failed and the speed of the car tripled. I saw death, I came in direct contact with death, but God saved me. My friend who was driving was quickly rushed to the hospital where he spent a week but I was lucky to not be much affected. I only had a cut on my lips and head. The vehicle somersaulted countless times. Farmers who were on their way to the farm that morning and heard the sound of the car somersaulting refused coming to help us. They said they didn't want to see Dead bodies at that early time of the morning, they didn't know we survived.

Sometimes again, I had another accident. I was about running mad when I eventually managed to pull out of the car, I had use my head to hit everywhere. These two accidents involving two different cars were all sold as scraps cos the damage were irreparable. And if they were to be fixed, the money would be more than imagine.

Again, my father died from a motorbike (Vespa) accident many years ago while I was just 7years. He didn't die on the spot, he even brought himself back home that night unaided. No external injuries but he had internal bleeding which wasn't detected in time, at 4am, mum took him to the hospital as pains in his chest became intense and at 7am, he gave up the ghost. The psychological impact of all these still affect me, I guess.

How do I overcome this please?
Its so bad that whenever a loved one is traveling, I will be saying in my mind that the person might die on the road and that we may never see again. God pls help me!

God has saved me countless times and if I begin to write here, we may not go to bed tonight.
To God alone be all the Glory!

My brother, since you're a Christian, I can advice you.

Every accident leaves you with a traumatic experience that opens doors to demons. Through that trauma, the demons will cause unexplainable fear and establish a phobia. Consequently, the traumatic incident, in your case, the accidents will continue to happen and may even become generational. If not taken care of, your children will have the same phobia and would also become accident prone.

Go for deliverance my brother. Tell your story to a deliverance minister. Let them separate your soul from the memory of the accident that took your dad. Let them break the soul tie between you and the first accident that happened to you. Let them usher the peace of God to dwell in your heart and cast out the spirit of fear and death. You shall be free in Jesus name. "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." 2 Timothy 1:7

Speaklove:
The moon signifies a woman and a mother in the Bible .
It purpose is to be a conduit that gives birth by pouring upon the earth what it is impregnated with .
Eg.

The light of the moon is what it is impregnated with by the sun .
The sun signifies father ,source etc

This is deep.

I have once argued with some fellow Christians who thought that astrology is harmless and should be encouraged in Christiendom. I do not initially believe that the heavenly bodies of the Sun, Moon or Stars should exercise any influence on the earth but by reading about your testimony and your vision, I see the need to readjust. I am an intercessor myself and would like to know more about these things.

Do you have any broader sphere of knowledge on these and how these bodies affect territories, families and nations? If you do, kindly share. Ignorance is the most potent weapon Satan has against believers.

It shall be well

CreativeOrbit:
Your comment is a textbook example of confusion layered on arrogance, topped with a sloppy misunderstanding of theology—Islamic and Christian. Let’s untangle your mess point by point.

1. “So antiChristian, your Quran calls the Messiah Lord?” – No, you’re cherry-picking and still getting it wrong.

I'm sure gohf will return to answer you but I need to address some issues I found with your so called Islamic theology.

By referencing your Quran which placed Allah and the Messiah as lords, gohf was not cherry picking. He was making a very valid point in tandem with the question he asked.

First, judging by your response, does the word 'lord' have a different meaning in Islam? And if the Quran blames the Christians and Jews for taking some others as lords instead of Allah and the Messiah, do you not see that the Quran indirectly juxtaposes Allah and the Messiah as the only acceptable lords? If the Messiah is as acceptable as a lord as much as Allah, then, who is Mohammed and why should the Messiah be his follower?

First, the Qur’an does not call Jesus “Lord” (Rabb) in the way Christians use it. Islam calls him Messiah (al-Masih), a prophet, the Word of God, born of a virgin, and highly honored—but not divine.

The Qur’an makes it crystal clear:

“Indeed, the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was no more than a messenger of Allah…” (Qur'an 4:171)

Islam doesn’t reduce Jesus’ status—it restores it to what he actually taught: submission to One God. That’s not dishonor. That’s truth stripped of pagan fusion and theological inflation.

So no—Muslims don’t call Jesus “Lord” because worship is due to God alone. You can’t accuse Muslims of disrespect for refusing to commit shirk (associating partners with God)—that’s like calling a surgeon anti-medicine for refusing to drink poison.

Can you see the obvious contradiction? The Quran, by putting Allah and the Messiah as the only lords that should have been acceptable for Christians and Jews to acknowledge, this your point is very watery and lacks substance. That's why I asked earlier, does the word 'lord' have a different meaning in Islam? And if it does, what type of lord is Allah, and what type of lord is the Messiah? However, is it not already obvious that the Quran by that statement recognizes only two lords - Allah and the Messiah? So then again, where is Mohammed, and why must the Messiah be his follower?

2. “You honor him lesser than Muhammad?” – That’s not a contradiction. That’s consistent theology.

Muhammad (ﷺ) is the final prophet, the seal of the messengers, sent with the universal message for all of mankind. Jesus (‘Isa), peace be upon him, was a mighty prophet, sent to the Children of Israel.

Islam doesn't rank prophets like a fanboy list. It honors them all, but acknowledges that some were given specific roles and statuses by divine decree (Qur’an 2:253).

If you’re angry that Muhammad has a higher status in Islam, that’s not a theological critique—it’s just ego dressed up as outrage. We don’t rewrite divine hierarchy to please your feelings.

That's a big contradiction and an obvious inconsistency. You cannot rank someone as lord and still say he's the follower of someone else who's nothing near a lord. Especially when that lord is the only one recognized in conjunction with Allah. Can you make this make sense?

3. “Adam was forgiven but it says they will all go to hell?” – Learn to read before you debate.

Adam was forgiven by Allah, full stop. Islam doesn't teach that he was condemned to hell. You’re confusing temporary consequences on Earth with eternal damnation, and once again showing you haven’t read the Qur’an—you’ve read bad summaries of it.

As for "they will all go to hell," you’re likely mangling Qur'an 19:71, which says:

“And there is none of you but will pass over it (hellfire); this is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed.”

But the next verse (19:72) clarifies:

“Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees.”

So passing over doesn't mean eternal damnation. It refers to a moment of judgment—a test that the righteous will pass, and the wicked will not. If you’re going to quote the Qur’an, quote both verses, or don’t quote at all.

Yeah, that's the very bone of contention. Why must anyone first go to hell in the first place? Allah does not know those who sinned and those who did righteously? He must first cast everyone to hell unjustly before he comes to save those he wants to save? Is it just for a judge to cast all to prison before they're even accused and tried? Is the fire of this earth palatable for even a one minute duration of burning, let alone the fire of hell? Can you actually stand being burnt in an oven for 1 minute? Allah did not even provide any duration of your stay in hell. You'll be there for as long as he wishes until he comes to save you? Can you make it make sense?

4. “Even creativeorbit said the Messiah Lord will follow Muhammad” – Exactly. That’s Islamic eschatology.

Yes, Jesus (peace be upon him) will return. And guess what? He won’t come with a new religion. He will return as a follower of Muhammad (ﷺ)—as part of the final revealed path, not as a separate savior figure.

This isn’t confusing—it’s coherent, consistent, and rooted in tawheed (oneness of God).

The real confusion is in trying to understand Islamic theology through a Christian lens, twisting verses, demanding contradictions, and then calling Islam “confusing” when it doesn’t mirror your broken framework.

No!

The real confusion is in making the only lord juxtaposed with Allah a follower of a mere prophet. Would Allah follow Mohammed too?

Final word:

Your argument is riddled with poor comprehension, selective quoting, and bad logic. You’re not here for dialogue—you’re here to poke holes using cut-up verses and confused theology. But this isn’t Sunday school. If you want to attack Islam, come with facts, not this mangled mess of misinterpretation and emotional noise.

Until then, don’t confuse your misunderstanding with Islam’s clarity.

TenQ AntiChristian

You actually created more confusion and even more illogical and contradictory lines of thought. The onus lies on you to make your positions make sense to a thinking human.

I find it even more amusing when you stated that Jesus is recognized in Islam as the Word of God but not Devine. You mean the Word of God is ordinary and equatable to any other mundane and earthly phenomenon? Is the Word if God mortal? Is it terrestrial? God is Devine and speaks divinity from heaven. His words are divine. They're not ordinary words. How can Jesus be ordinary if He's indeed the Word of God? Can you see another obvious contraction? You should throw away your Quran if the Word of God is not divine. Shakespeare's novels might hold better value than your Quran if it's not Devine. Or is the Quran not the word of God too? Hey, I'm not insulting your book! The point I'm making is that If Jesus is the Word of God, then, He's Devine and not ordinary. If Jesus the Word of God is not Devine, then, the Quran which you also call the word of God too is not Devine.

TheRareGem1:
https://www.arise.tv/osinbajo-africa-faces-worst-debt-crisis-in-80-years-with-rising-insecurity/

Cc mynd44 lalasticlala seun

Great speech!

There's a lot of lessons here for upcoming African leaders. The present crop of leaders in Africa cannot be remedied. Africa's only hope is in its future leaders.

Take this advice from Osibanjo and also remember that the West is not your friend; you'll be a good leader to your nation.

sreamsense:
Yes, you heard right now! What brought me to you before that you confirmed I am not a member, is exactly what brought me again since you have not changed. Is there anything there for you?

You spent four years plus chasing only one person, and yet you are being put to shame. Is somebody bankrolling you or what? You are bringing disgrace to deeper life. What deeper life teaches is for you to be on your knees to pray and intercede for men of God, but unfortunately; the message has no effect on you anymore.

Everyday only you see MFM pastor that is being interviewed and more revelation from Ashekun. For four years plus, your revelation on just one man no dey finish. Continue chasing shadow, you better tell the hired protesters to go again. Hypocrite! I gave you deeper life pastor that was even caught in the act, you ran away from it. Your area of specialization for more than four years is only MFM!

You better don't get yourself injured in the process, try to be more spiritually matured beyond your denomination. Even a woman that was caught in adultery was pardoned by Jesus, but you chasing only one man of God for more than four years keeps putting you to shame, and yet you never desist. Where did you see that kind of behaviour in Jesus our perfect example?

Thanks very much.

Just like yourself, I am also not a member of MFM but I know Olukoya very well and by what I know of his Christian standing and character, I am very confident that he cannot be engaged in such things as those being alleged and propagated by Olaadegbu.

The Bible says "Try all spirits...hold fast to that which is true". An instruction Olaadegbu has blatantly tossed into the wind. I have concluded that this guy is not a Christian. He has no single evidence of all the allegations except the propaganda he picks from his wicked source.

SmellingAnus:
he made many rich and also pissed all things so he wasn't poor even from the scripture you dropped...

If that's your understanding, it is not theologically sound.

He said he was poor but he made many rich. That doesn't mean he was rich. A poor man can make another person rich. A sick person can cause another to be healed. His confession about himself takes precedence before the outcome of his actions. You're looking at the outcome without considering the precedence. Very faulty logic and unwholesome theology.

There's no need to answer you anymore anyway. Thanks for your time.

He had nothing physically but has everything by faith in Christ because Christ is the embodiment of all riches.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂so if fulfilling purpose is not about riches and poverty, what is is all about, What destiny has God made for all humans?

I think you're derailing the topic as we're not here to talk about destiny.

Man's destiny is to please God. God has created all things for His pleasure. Revelation 4:11.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂so a person can be poor and still fulfill his purpose? Will a poor person be fulfilling his purpose the right way?

Was Jesus not poor? Were His disciples not poor? Didn't they fulfil their purposes? Did you not read that God does not measure fulfilment by poverty or riches? Or, why the unnecessary questions? Don't you have other intelligent things to talk about?

SmellingAnus:
2 Corinthians 6:10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things. infact the scripture you dropped proves that Paul was rich.. he made people rich and possessed everything... You still haven't shown any scriptural evidence that the disciples were poor

Did he say he had nothing? Yes or no?

Do he say they were poor? Yes or no.

Done for now. Please have s nice day. I don't have time for unnecessary arguments.

SmellingAnus:
The scripture you dropped didn't say the Disciples were poor that was he asked Peter to go to the fish... The bible never said Peter or any other disciple was poor .. so you still haven't dropped any scriptural evidence that says the disciples were poor...

Even Paul made references to himself and the other disciples as "...though poor, making many rich." 2 Cor. 6:10.

If you cannot draw inspirations from the events I described, draw one from Paul's direct statement in 2 Cor. 6:10.

SmellingAnus:
provide scriptural evidence from the Bible that the disciples were so poor that they couldn't pay tribute... That's a lie...

I don't like it when you keep stressing that I'm lying without first confirming the said lie. It's not a good way to discuss scriptures at all.

Mathew 17:24 -27 was where Christ was asked for tribute money and He had to sent Peter to fish for it. Peter had to go take a coin out of the fish's mouth simply because there was none available in anyone's purse at the time.

It seems you're only doing this for arguments sake as you completely ignored the reference to Judas. I would not continue with you if I find this to be the attitude you bring to these issues.

As for the wedding, the wine finished, don't tell me there was no wine.. there was wine but the wine finished...

Did I say there was no wine? I told you that the wine finished and there were no funds to immediately buy more. Go and read again. Mary said they have no wine, because the wine finished and there was no more money to buy more.

That in no way mean they were poor... Even the rich folks run out of items that's why they restock when they are running out of items... Lastly you still haven't provided any scripture that says the disciples were poor or that the couples at the wedding were poor...

I thought you knew the scriptures enough to mentally navigate scriptures yourself and have understanding without references.

Let me tell you, the disciples were poor during Christ's presence and afterwards. Paul actually was taking offerings of the gentile churches to feed the disciples in Jerusalem after Christ's departure. 2 Corinthians 8 and several other scriptures highlight this situation.

When the disciples , Peter and John appeared before the Sanhedrin in Acts 4:13, were they treated like rich folks? They were termed ignorant and ordinary men.

They were actually not rich. Jesus associated more with the poor than with the rich. In His parable of the rich man, He put poor Lazarus in a conspicuously good position in heaven while also condemning the rich whose entry into heaven would be like that of a camel passing through a needle's eye.

Do not ever think the person with a differing opinion to yours is lying without first giving that individual the opportunity to fully establish his viewpoints. I can take you far deeper into the scriptures if you have the time.

SmellingAnus:
Ibiyeomie might be wrong about many things but you don't have to lie to prove he is wrong... About the wedding he attended, there is no scriptural evidence that they were poor... Wine finishing in wedding doesn't mean poor..
There are some weddings I have attended even for the food to get to me was a problem but they are rich couples... Many factors could play a part to it... As for the disciples, there is also no scriptural evidence they were poor... You can drop scriptures to back your claim

The disciples were poor, who doesn't know this? There was a time there was nooney to even pay tribute. None of the disciples could help. Jesus had to send Peter to catch a fish in the river with some coins in its mouth. Judas sold his Master for 30 shekels of silver. He needn't do that if he were rich.

Rich people often throw parties with a lot of funfair. Food may finish but not drinks. If there are too much people, food may finish, and since food is not something that could be made available in an instance, there'll be guests who won't get something to eat in that party. But for drinks, they'll instantly order for kore in absolute surplus to ensure that everyone has enough drinks.

What did Marty tell Jesus? "They have no wine." The couple were just about to be disgraced when Jesus intervened. If the wine finished, and they had the means to order for more, Jesus needn't not make wines for the couple. Mary said they have no one because they couldn't even afford to get more.

Truthseeker10:
Below is your statement sir.

Your purpose would bring you many opportunities to be rich if you pursue it the right way.

Has a poor man fulfilled his purpose according to your statement above? 😂😂😂😂

If your purpose brings you many opportunities to be rich and you refused to use the opportunity but went ahead to keep fulfilling purpose, choosing rather to shun riches, does that mean you didn't fulfil your purpose? Please always read with good understanding.

SmellingAnus:
As much as I don't even agree with Pastor Ibiyeomie on some of his teachings, but it would have been better if these Pastors bring out scriptures to counter the Pastor and show where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that some of us that are ignorant can learn... Let me leave it for senior Pastors of Nairaland, please show us scriptures where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that ignorant people like me can learn...

All His disciples were very poor folks. The first wedding he attended was that of poor couples who could not provide enough wines for their guests.

Ibiyeomie was absolutely wrong. He was heretical.

Truthseeker10:
But a poor man has not fulfilled his purpose according to you😂😂😂......na wa oo

Why do you enjoy lying.

Pull out the exact sentence in which I said the above. Let's expose the liar here!

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂😂baba don turn plain sentence to context. Exposed.

It's your emptiness that's exposed. Why didn't you copy the whole post and bolden that part if you're not just being mischievous? The whole post drive home a point but you son of the devil brought out half truth from the post to make a lie.

When I said God does not measure success or fulfillment by poverty or wealth, is that not clear enough to your mischievous mind?

Truthseeker10:
Below is your statement.

Your purpose would bring you many opportunities to be rich if you pursue it the right way.

If a person is poor, has he fulfilled his purpose?

Wrong question again.

Read what I said in the last sentence of the last post you cut off. I said what I said with a context.

Antichristian2:
May you not be foolish!

While he was still speaking, another messenger came and reported: “Your sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother’s house, when suddenly a mighty wind swept in from the desert and struck the four corners of the house. It collapsed on the young people and they are dead, and I alone have escaped to tell you!” Job1: 18-19

Who are the young people above? "han·nə·‘ā·rîm" translated as "the young people" actually means a lad or boy not an adult!

Check below screenshot from Mets AI. You chose your biased interpretation to call them small boys. Even common sense tells you that small boys don't own houses and arrange parties. Anyone old enough to own a house and host parties is not a kid. Job's children were young men. Not necessarily kids. When I was in my 30s, I still hand elderly people who called me young man. Does that make me a kid? Pray the prayers of not being foolish for yourself.

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b]And where's your evidence from the Bible they were unrighteous?[/b]

And where's your evidence for me calling them unrighteous? I said if they were righteous, they won't be vulnerable.

Because he gave us humans a complex brain to decipher things and freewill to do or not to do. He won't judge animals as they do not have these!

Hence, God is not the One who does all the evils you see!

I am not blaming God for anything and i don't have the right to question God! God's will is beyond any of His creation! Why did God gave Satan powers to touch Job's kids and properties? We can expand this and say probably Satan may have done same to cause almost all the calamities on earth! Are you even saying Satan is a minister of God for tests and trials here?

Wrong question.

God did not give Satan powers to touch Jobs children. Satan was just doing his thing and caught them in a vulnerable situation. Sarah's things are all wickedness and evil. If you're not vulnerable, Satan cannot touch you. May your understanding be opened. A president does not give armed robbers powers to rob a compound, but when they're doing their thing, if the compound is not vulnerable, robbers cannot succeed. Righteousness is a defence.

No, you can't tell my enemy to come kill my family and destroy my properties! Aba! You self be my enemy be that! That's aiding and abetting! It wasn't Satan who killed Job's son by God!

You're talking like a kid. It's like saying your examiner is your enemy for making you face an examination in which you failed. It's like saying a wrestlers manager is an enemy of the wrestler for making him face a tough opponent. If you created an object that you planned to be fireproof, won't you test it in the fire to prove your ingenuity? Do you become the enemy of the object for testing it so? If I created you to be a most powerful entity on earth, and I boast to my enemy that he cannot overcome you, do I become your enemy if my enemy tests your power to confirm my boasting?

God's children are God's masterpieces on earth. As they serve God faithfully, a time comes for exams that lead to promotions. God promotes His children as they succeed from tests to tests until they become all that God has destined them to be - strong, faith-filled, resident servants of God in the face of persecution and adversity.

This your last statement still means God had a plan for him. He has completed his mission and had to die. Job's children too have completed their time as no one knows when his or her time is up! Anyone who dies has completed his or her mission according to God's plan!

Wrong!

A righteous person does not HAVE to die just because he has completed his mission but because God's ordained time for him or her on earth was ripe. However, the ripe time will be after the completion of your mission and not before. No one could take Jesus until His time was up.

On the other hand, an unrighteous person can be taken at anytime by Satan like a fowl in a cage.

I hope you can learn from our conversations so far, especially in using your Quran to defend your Quran. Hope you can see the falsehood of your religion in that whenever a fault is made concerning your false prophet, you'll always look for unrelated events, (most of which you don't even understand) in the Bible to justify your prophet rather than using your Quran itself to justify your Quran.

Check screenshots from Google and AI to see jobs children were actually young men.

Antichristian2:
Does this spell out their unrighteousness as you claimed?

Irrelevant question. You said they were kids and I proved they weren't.

This mentality is false. Everything is created by God! God is not unawares of the future of everything He created. He created Satan and grant him powers! He created calamity and disaster for a purpose! Your biblical God permitted Satan to kill Job's children and destroy his properties and health! God's permission to Satan to make Job grief is enough calamity from God!

If God is the orchestrator of all calamities, why will he judge wickedness? Care to answer?

God created calamity as an instrument of judgement for the wicked. Satan has powers. Humans have powers. By God's principle of freewill, they both could use their powers as they wish but God will judge them for the misuse of their powers.

God wanted to promote job and, therefore He put him to the test. Satan can only go as far as Job's and his children's vulnerability. If Satan visits you, he cannot get you if you are not vulnerable. Your vulnerability is not God's fault but yours.

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b]If you allow someone to do evil to me then who are you if not an accomplice?[/b]

If I want to boast of your strength and power to my enemy, I can tell my enemy to try you and see something. That's exactly what happened in Jobs case.

He was beheaded as a birthday gift! And that beheading was a calamity from God to the bereaved family of John the Baptist!

Beheaded as a birthday gift for rebuking the king who snatched his brother's wife. It was a persecution.

God permitted it or is it that God can't save him from beheading just as he did save the children of Israel from Pharaoh?

If his time was not up, he could not be cut short. He already completed his assignment.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂if I am not rich, have I fulfilled my purpose on earth? Yes or no sir?

Wrong question!

Fulfillment of purpose is not measured by riches or poverty.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂funny man....so people's purpose on earth is to be rich? Anyone who is not rich is not fulfilling his or her purpose on earth?

So people are not rich in Nigeria because they are not following their purpose and not because of the government. Ok oo.

If that's your understanding of all I have said so far, I wonder how you passed English comprehension in school.

You might have to read and reread to understand what I've said so far.

LordReed:
LoLz. Like I said it is made up shìt in your head. Spiritually alive? It's a meaningless phrase with no practical demonstration except what is in your head. There are so many practical ways to demonstrate this but if I ask you, you'll make up a bullshìt excuse for the bullshìt in your head.

If it's a meaningless phrase, it won't have an interpretation in all languages of the world. The made up shit is in your own head. Infact for calling a named phenomenon which has its individual meaning in all tongues a meaningless shit, already shows how deeply ignorant and self deceiving you are.