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Dbegining:
Ani Islam ti ba aye e je patapata. No repair.

The thing is you still have refusedto answer the question the Op asked. Will yiu give out your six year old child out in marriage?

Secondly, the verse you're mentioned didn't say anything about marriage.

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KJV:And the persons were sixteen thousand; of which the Lord'S tribute was thirty and two persons.

Tribute to the Lord were people who will serve as priests in God's Temple. The other verse you mentioned also didnt say anything about marriage but spoils of war that were to be kept for themselves.

Lastly, you should try reading the Bible more. That's the only place perhaps you can be delivered from this madness.

If you read the Bible well, there's a clear description of women and children.

When it differentiates and says women, that mans they are no longer children. And whe it says children, that means they are not mature.

God referred to those people as women not children.

That means they are not children. Unlike your hero that married a 9 year old! Clearly still a child!

Again, Islam ti ba aye e je patapata laisi repair.

Thank you for clarifying that verse to that Antichristian2 guy. He uses his warped thinking of his Quran to interpret the Bible. He thinks everyone is like Mohammed, and so whenever women are mentioned, it must be all about sex.

The virgins separated for God were helpers who'll help in the service of the temple. Drawing water, cleaning, etc.

The women that were given to men were mere slaves. There's a law for marrying your slave if you like her. That a woman was given to you as war booty does not mean you can now start having sex with her. For example:

Deuteronomy 21:10-14 says:

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands, and you take captives, if you see among them a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. Bring her into your home, where she will shave her head, trim her nails, and discard her captive's garb. She'll live in your home for a month, mourning her parents. Only then may you marry her ."

That Antichristian2 fellow is indeed anti truth. You can't be antichristian without loving lies.

orisa37:
THEY'RE IGNORANT, ILLITERATE AND ARROGANTLY FOOLISH.

Foolish and thinking themselves to be the wisest.

YoungestPapa:
It's just not possible anymore for me to believe totally what I've studied and taught about the globe earth. There are lots of unanswered questions

1. Why do pilots not adjust the airplane for the sake of the earths curvature? They don't and they do not fly away to space.

Every curvature has a plain portion before it reaches its curved sections. Depending on the size of the rounded object, the distance through a plain could be very long. And when we're talking about flying objects such as a plane, we cannot be talking of curvatures in the air except the sky is curved. It's the earth that's curved, not the atmosphere around the earth.

2. On the sea shore, why do we see ships with a binoculars after they disappear from our eyes, and after they disappear from a binoculars we can see them with a telescope?

They didn't disapper because they didn't descend into a slope. You can see them with a telescope up to a certain distance before they descend through the Earth's slopes. The telescope can't see from one end of the earth to the other. If it were so, then your theory would have been true.

3. Why does the earth look totally flat in videos of individuals who have sent balloons high up as against the curvature we see when NASA posts their videos.

The videos from the balloons don't capture the entire earth and its surroundings. NASA's videos capture the full earth not just some sections of it.

4. If the sun is 93 million miles away from the earth, how is Nigeria so hot and at same time the USA 3,000-4,000 miles away is in winter?

The earth is 93 million miles away from the Sun, not Nigeria or USA being 93 miles away from the sun. The distance of countries to each other wouldn't matter because the sun is all encompassing as far as its relationship with the earth is concerned. For example, if you place a heat emitting soccer ball over a group of ants who are somewhat distant from each other, they'll all experience the same heat temperature because they're still all directly under the ball anyway.

Also note that the earth undergoes constant position changing due to rotation and revolvement. If the earth were flat as you opined, we should all experience the same weather and sunshine conditions at the same time, but the reverse is the case.

5. Why have all individual experiments (since the Bedford experiment in the 1800's) to measure the curvature of the earth all shown that there is no curvature?

The Bedford experiment, performed by Samuel Rowbotham in 1838, was an attempt to measure the curvature of the Earth. However, the experiment had several methodological flaws and has been widely debunked by the scientific community.

Regarding the claim that individual experiments have shown no curvature, it's crucial to consider the following:

1. Experimental limitations: Many experiments, especially those conducted in the 19th century, had limitations in terms of precision, instrumentation, and methodology.

2. Confirmation bias: Some experiments may have been designed or interpreted with a preconceived notion, leading to biased results.

3. Lack of peer review: Not all experiments are subject to rigorous peer review, which is essential for ensuring the quality and validity of scientific research.

In contrast, overwhelming evidence from various fields of science, including:

- Satellite imagery: High-resolution images of the Earth from space clearly show its spherical shape.

- Ships disappearing over the horizon: As a ship sails away, it will eventually disappear from view as it sinks below the horizon due to the Earth's curvature.

- Circumnavigation: Many people have traveled around the world, completing circumnavigations that would be impossible if the Earth were flat.

- Gravity: The force of gravity pulls objects towards the center of the Earth, which is only possible if the Earth is a sphere or an oblate spheroid.

The sea is glued as a result. The butterfly flies because it applies a counter force against gravity to move in the opposite direction of the gravitational pull. Water would likewise move up if it's so forced up. Example, when you scoop water from a bowl, the water is indirectly flying up even if you have scooped it from the ocean.

- Measurements of the Earth's shadow: During a lunar eclipse, the Earth passes between the sun and the moon, casting a shadow on the lunar surface. The shape of this shadow is curved, indicating that the Earth is a sphere.

These lines of evidence, along with many others, conclusively demonstrate that the Earth is not flat, but rather an oblate spheroid.

MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell he has answered for all of unah shey?

Comprehensively and truthfully!

achorladey:
He must turn a blind eye to project his self righteousness

He was even lying that he doesn't read such comments.

MaxInDHouse:
He started mentioning Max.
I don't read such comments since the poster doesn't answer the question in a direct manner!

He answered the question and also made a refrence to you. You're still lying that you didn't read the comment. Na wa for you.

MaxInDHouse:
Na answer be that àbí na Max dey hin mind?

Tell my why it's not an answer. I'll like to know how it deraled from the question.

MaxInDHouse:
So far no answer from all antagonists yet they will later come arguing that they are worshiping the God of Israel!

So, you didn't see Gabrielshow24's answer?

Gabrielshow24:
Typical Max 😁
Your retorts are quite expected!!!

To answer mightyEagle😁,they are not the same!!!

They have different identities!
Although the concept of Godship is attributed to both🤔, yet there is only one true God—Jehovah🤔—not to be mistaken for the Jehovah of JW👀, whose identity is also strikingly different 🤨.

You nailed it square and square.

Ogurube:
STORY. I suspect the name change is a way to take credit away from Dr. Tony RAPU, who helped grow RCCG by founding the Apapa Family (aka Freedom Parish), from where pastors like, VP Yemi Osinbajo, Mfon Eskor, Itua Ighodalo, Agu Irukwu, ID Iluyomade, Ghandi Olaoye (Soun of Ogbomosho), etc, were mentored to go plant many RCCG parishes around the affluent parts of Nigeria and the World. As the money flowed in, TRIBAL politics became known in RCCG. See how they bask in the growth and glory that others, who were slyly emasculated and purged, brought to “their” church. I was expecting GO Adeboye to acknowledge and thank Dr. TONY RAPU, ESKOR, and ILUYOMADE for a job well done, not call them DEMONS and change the better name. Also, the most godly and christ-like thing would’ve been to use that occasion to criticize the bad government under TINUBU and call for reconciliation of all Nigerians, but hell will rather freeze over before it happens.

What exactly is bad about Tinubu's government that you want Adeboye to criticize?

Only people with selfish political interest, and children who know nothing about nation building criticize Tinubu's government. For any matured mind, Tinubu's government is the best so far in the history of Nigeria.

If you want to rebuild a country, there must first be pains before the gains come. Nigeria was once a very hopeless state but now with the policies and government activities in place, the nation has a bright future. You don't measure government performance by the market prices of goods but by good economic actions that could bring in future gains.

BlackfireX:
There was a time our prophet SAW said somethings that he later renounced that it wasn't from his Allah.

Another incident is a Christian man who writes the current recitation (Qur'an) for Muhammad, but he later left Muhammad and he was gruesomely killed by our prophet.

The issue of receiving so called revelations that goes contrary to sanity.. collecting his Adopted son's wife, infact at a point Aisha the 9 year old wife said is like the so called revelations is meant to favour you.

Please would you grant me a verifiable reference for the bolded?

Senator Ike Ekweremadu

Some years ago, the University of Nigeria Teaching Hospital (UNTH) special project team approached the Deputy Senate President (Ike Ekweremmadu) to help them fast-track the funding for a project in the hospital through a government intervention project. He asked them to submit their proposal and they did. It was N400million for Renal Centre.

The N400m was to build the structure, procure equipment and train few doctors abroad for "Renal transplant" and other special "Renal emergency training".

Senator Ike Ekeremmadu asked them to double the money to N800m. The extra N400m will be for him to facilitate the release of the funds. Senator Ike Ekeremmadu later facilitated the release of 50% of the fund and diverted all of it even without the knowledge of UNTH. After waiting for so long, UNTH made contact and was told they should submit the progress report for the project status in order to access the balance 50%. Alas, they had nothing to show for the initial 50% and didn't even know that Oga Deputy Senate President had taken N400m and moved on.

On May 5th year 2023, Senator Ike Ekeremmadu will receive his jail sentence for trying to do a kidney transplant in the UK for his daughter whose kidney is failing. Senator Ike Ekeremmadu pocketed N400m meant for building a Kidney Centre in his state where most probably his daughter would have received a transplant without flying abroad and facing the stringent laws guiding organ transplant in the UK. He would not have needed to tell lies after lies to bring David Nwammini to the UK which finally got him and his wife behind the foreign prison!

Copied from Chuma.

Personal Notes: This is a true demonstration of karma. Our politicians are wicked. They will all pay dearly for the evils they do against Nigerians.

Who says there's no judgement?

Kobojunkie:
1. Where is this eternal separation from God mentioned in the Law of Moses, which is indicated in Ezekiel 18, which you quote?

2. Ezekiel 18 was written approximately 600 years before the birth of Jesus Christ of Israel, whom you refer to. So, how did we jump to Jesus Christ of Israel from what is written in Ezekiel 18?

3. Are you insinuating that there is no difference between the individuals out there and those men? Then why were their names mentioned separately from all else?

1. You should tell us how a soul dies. The Bible called eternal separation from God a second death.

2. Eternal separating from God is visible even from Genesis. God told them, if you eat this fruit, you'll die. The death was not physical but spiritual. A separation from God.

3. Those men are like any other man. Their names were not mentioned separately. Jesus on my used a common phrase "God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" to illustrate a point.

Kobojunkie:
The right question would be, "Where do you live," and the answer would not suggest that I own the place when I don't.

By the way, when you earlier claimed that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob — not every man who lived beginning from the time of Abraham to the time of Jacob, etc, — still live yonder, what exactly did you mean?

I wasn't the one who said that.

Everyone who lived before Adam and after Adam have a life beyond the grave.

Kobojunkie:
The spirit indwelling man that does not belong to man, right? and we know from Genesis 2 and Genesis 3 that the spirit in question — the breath of God— is intended by God as a means of animating man for an allotted period.

2. I wouldn't call a rented house my house. It could be where I live, but definitely not my house?

When they ask you "Where's your house?" What do you answer in real life? You'll point it out if it's within sight even though it was rented.

Kobojunkie:
You don't seem to be paying attention to your own claims.

1. According to the verse from Ezekiel 18, which you have referenced several times now, the soul that sins must die implies souls are not eternal nor live beyond as death indicates an end for the body and soul as described by the same God you pretend to quote in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 19. However, you are trying to convince us that all souls are instead celestial bodies, and my question was intended to have us learn where this conclusion of yours comes from. What book, chapter, and verse, please?

2. So, are all men Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob then? And is Ezekiel 18 of lie?

1. In all references to the scripture that says "the soul that sinneth shall die" I always add "eternal separation from God". Physical death is eternal separation from the body. Spiritual death is eternal separation from God. The Bible calls it the second death.

2. Jesus was talking generally about the afterlife. After rebuking those who said there's no resurrection, He cited the example of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as proof that there's life beyond the grave. The very matter they were arguing was whether there's life after death or not. Then Jesus said, in the resurrection, people don't marry or give birth..... Please read the quoted verses again.

2. What is the difference between all other men and Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

Kobojunkie:
Interesting! The body, which is made of clay, dies when man dies, but somehow the soul escapes death even though the verse you continue to quote clearly states that the soul will die in a sinful man. So, where does this idea of yours that the soul is of a celestial body? Where is this claim of yours to be found?

Since you don't seem to even believe the Bible, I'll let you know that the Lord Jesus said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. But regarding the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God: 'I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB'? He is not the God of the dead, but of the living."

(Matthew 22:29-32, NASB)

The bodies of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are dead and buried here but they still live yonder. Life beyond the grave.

Kobojunkie:
Here! That's the first mistake you made in this particular post of yours. If the Spirit in question was never man's spirit, to begin with, then where did you come up with the notion that after life on earth man somehow continues to live by way of this spirit that was never his, elsewhere?

Where is it written in the book you pretend to quote from that such a thing is even possible?

By Man's Spirit, I meant the spirit indwelling man. I wasn't talking in terms of possession. If you're living in a rented house, calling the house your house does not mean you're the landlord. It only means you dwell there.

sonmvayina:
When did I say that the soul is same as spirit. That was your position, that's why I said you should answer.
Soul = body + spirit.

We're on your assertion that soul = body + spirit.

Now, answer the question, if soul = body plus spirit, what is meant by the verse "...the soul that sinneth shall die"?

The man is spirit plus soul plus body

sonmvayina:
What are you saying brov?
So the body made of clay lives on after death?
You are confusing yourself
Go back and check

There's a spiritual body my friend. The spiritual body is the soul and not the breathe that returns to God. This is the soul that the Bible says shall.die. It shall be eternally separated from God.

sonmvayina:
So what is going to hell?

Please answer the two questions o asked you.

sonmvayina:
You answer it.

My friend,you created the question by your assertion. If you can't answer the question, then, it means you actually don't even know what you're talking about.

sonmvayina:
The purest form of evil is deception.

You have been deceived.

The Mary in the gospel stories is Lucifer.

You can't even prove what you're saying. So, you're the one who was deceived because I am a living proof of the power of the Gospel.

sonmvayina:
You are confusing yourself?
What is the body made of?
How can the soul still exist after death?

The body is made of clay.

The soul that sinneth shall.die. Why can't you answer the question of the soul.dying if it is the breathe of God plus the body. The soul is man's celestial.body. Death is a transition and not a termination.

sonmvayina:
Let me walk you through it.
God made a statue of a man from the dust of the earth (mud) it's a statue there is no life. Then God breathed into it and it became a living soul( it came to life)
The statue + God's breath( spirit) = soul.
The Bible also tells us that God's breath is the same image and likeness as God, so therefore we are Gods living inside a body made from Dust.
When you expire, God takes his breath, it becomes one with God, and we bury your body so that it can become one with the earth after termites have finish eating your body.
So what is going to hell?

My friend, I hope you know that man lives on beyond the grave. He has a body beyond the grave. That body is the soul.

Kobojunkie:
Did you read the verse with your eyes wide open? It says "the spirit returns to God who gave it". So where do you obtain this claim that the spirit in question BELONGED to man? That was and still is my question to you.

I can show you were God indicated that He put that spirit inside of man. However, God never said that the spirit belonged to man as a result of Him putting it inside of man. And that spirit also happens to be God's very own breath of Life, which He installed in man when He created him - Genesis 2 vs 5 - 8 & Genesis 3 vs 19 - 24.

I don't know where you read that I said the spirit belongs to man. Please point that out first before we continue.

sonmvayina:
+ God's spirit/breath

Are you a retard or something?

Didn't you see that part?

If soul is God's spirit plus body, how's spirit = soul then?

sonmvayina:
I am talking about the Mary in the gospel stories. That same one.
The gospel was written by the Catholic Church, they have the patent right to Jesus.
Don't be deceived. It is still the same Babylon cult.

You don't even know the Gospel let alone knowing any character there. How can you talk about Mary? Have you.met her before?

If you cannot prove the Gospel, you cannot talk the Gospel or any of its characters to those who can prove it.

No, the Gospel was not written by the Catholic Church. The Gospel predates the Catholic Church.