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hoodboi:
Can i get a 3d model of a computer please from anyone,

Dude, here's one. It's got the fat monitor though. It's a complete system with keyboard, mouse, mouse pad, desk and chair. . . na free o but if you drop one bottle of burukutu, I won't say no.

http://www.mayhemproductions.org/3DModels.htm

lol. . . EOTRS was a 2006 affair so that means there's been more improvement since then . . . watch out for Captain Waka Waka. . . lol just kidding on the Waka Waka ish.

lol. . . I just like to draw women with some flesh. Yobachi is kinda tomboy-ish in action, moves like dude, whupps butt like a dude but still have some curves. . . wears pants 24/7 to cover her 'tubers of yam'

Macromedia Flash won't hurt. . . you can do a lot with it 'BUT'. . . lol there's a big ''BUT'' there o. I have seen loads of good flash stuff but there's no point arguing over the superiority and flexibility of good ol fashioned dedicated 2D apps. I think you can beat some sense outta Flash if you give it a good shot. . . folks have done it with stunning results.

I don't think learning 3D will be much of a hassle considering you have illustration background. You just have to throw in the dedication. . . everything will become butter down the line. 2D ain't bad at all. I bought Flip Book Lite back in 2004 but never really used it. A very awesome 2D program and pretty much more user friendly that all those ridiculously priced apps (like the $11000.00 Softimage Toonz ). . . These people dey drink gas sef. Flip Book Lite is kinda crippled in the sense that you can't produce more than 10 seconds of animation in one shot (No biggie IMHO) and comes with two layers, foreground and background (Good enough if you work around it). . . shucks, it cost only $72.00 and you can make a complete 2D movie with that! You can't beat that! I will advice you to look into flipbook for your 2d animation needs . . . you can download the demo from their website.

Yup, Chika is that ''village movie'' I was talking about (Them magas changed the title to that btw,it was Originally ''Chika: The Rite of Perdition''. . . not my best work but considering it was done after 10 months of self training and actually my first animation project before Ijoya. . . I can't complain. Again, with the exception of the voice acting, I did everything. . . from Storyboard to post production on my own. . . I no go complain and honestly, it was a good learning experience.

Fiinally, don't forget to check out Flipbook . . . stuff is good sh*t.
http://www.digicelinc.com/index.htm

The Lite version is on sale for only $49.99!
http://www.digicelinc.com/special.htm

Anyway,lemme know how things pan out. If worse comes to worst I will try to dig up my own version and let ya have it. . . dunno where it is at the moment. . . perhaps I should contact them to resend. . . it's been how long. . .3 yrs?

Yobachi "Sexy Tomboy"; another character from the graphic novel. Obviously, her favourite hobby is beating up boys (kidding lol)

. . . or Windows Movie Maker, if you don't want to spend a dime in the process.

@Gbade

Nah, those were stuff used before digital ink and paint. The new procedure now is to scan the drawing in a 2D animation program and finish the rest. You really need a fairly good computer, 2D program like Flipbook, pencil, lightbox (Drawing/tracing). . .not some archaic camera as big as a room and stacks upon stacks of see-through acetate. That's how the new Disney guys do it, That's how Miyazaki and his crew do it, Don Bluth, Mamoru Oshi. . . for 3D that's a different ball game because if you really don't want to fool yourself into believing you're doing something, you gotta have them high tech workstations with a crap load of RAM and pretty decent graphic card. . .

This is Yinka, the protagonist of a graphic novel in progress. Don't be fooled by the looks. . . she's hard core femme fatale

LOL. . . not bad, interesting makeover, but he kinda looks like a faggie.

@Gbade
Yup. . . I know exactly whatyamean. I have a Wacom tablet gathering dust since 2003, never really used it much because NOTHING can substitute the flexibility and freedom pencil/pen and paper.I've tried em all. . . tablet PC, Intuos. . . I draw the old fashioned way and scan, be it storyboards or illustrationn. . .

@Initiator, I'll notify you if anything pops up.

Mckren, why are you wasting time on these clowns? Their favourite past time is Igbo bashing. They will blame the Igbo man for everything, including erectile dysfunction and headache. Mental derangement comes in different forms.

@Gbade,

My condolence to ya on your mom's demise. Hope you're handling it well.

Yup I am on Y!iM.

I did study animation (2D) at the Joe Kubert School of Cartoon and Graphic Art. After the first year I chickened out for reasons I am not exactly willing to disclose. Don't get me wrong here, I didn't really get much from animation since the real McCoy was reserved for final year students. . . newbie first year dudes like me didn't get jack sh*t, they were teaching us archaic cel animation (Painting on transparent acetate. . . holy $#@!! in 2001!!) with a partial introduction to another archaic Walt Disney Era 'crankshaft' Oxeberry camera! Gadem! Everything single course was total crapitosis with the exception of Narrative Art (Storyboarding and co.). The only benefit IMHO, was getting your instruction from people who have worked on Hollywood projects and (Batman Beyond, Batman Forever. . . ETC) some reputable DC , Marvel, Dark Horse and Image Comics Artists and the current Archie Comics artist.

I pretty much lost bearing after the first year and did nothing but illustrations, painting and web design, but in 2003, I switched back to animation and this time, I had to make a move to computer animation since I discovered it was very vast and pretty much flexible. Lightwave was my first 3D app then. Started RTFM (Lol. . . [b]R[/b]eading [b]T[/b]he [b]F[/b]4king [b]M[/b]anual). Bought a couple of Lightwave books and training DVDs and knocked myself out. In 2004 I made a 'village' movie as a way of creating a 'production environment' experience for myself. After that na practice, practice, more practice, curses (when workstation ain't doing what it's supposed ta), more curses, sleepless nights, non existent social life, tried so hard to not to blur the line between geek/dweeb and Joe Coolguy. . . go back to practice, curses, sleepless night, epileptic or non existent social life. . . continue with the circle again until your eyes pop out. . .

Whew! I need a glass of Gasoline. . .

Lol, you guys wikkid o! LOFL!!! Another seriously dumb ass cartoon has to be Billy and Mandy or whatever it is called, I don't know if the cartoon in general is dumb ass or whether they paraded a bunch of super dumb ass characters. Don't forget Foster Home, no it ain't dumb ass but just irritating to the maximum, I think we should open a Dumb ass cartoon thread where people can vent, lol

There are retards masquerading as sensible human beings.

pretty much everyone in my little survey as well as some people I approached to fund my feature. No body will touch it unless it has that stereotypical African ''village'' setting. These people include Africans and non Africans. I have no beef with the concept but I thought it shouldn't be a problem to try something outside the 'ordinary'. Their argument is since we do not have such things coming from our neck of the woods, it wouldn't be wise to do something that's been there, the concept is unique and when packaged in a very polished and convincing manner should stand out from the rest, in a world of its own. Those were their words. I see their views and I believe they made valid points but I am trying very hard to avoid a formula where a concept is milked until it becomes very irritating, for instance, the talking animal fiasco that Hollywood is too adamant to change.

EOTRS was screened alongside a sample 'village' movie I made back in 2004/2005, and the rating was as follows:


EOTRS:
(2006)Production quality: 3.5
Animation quality: 3.5
Concept 2.0 (I still disagree)
Final score:

VILLAGE MOVIE2004/2005):

Production quality: 2.0
Animation 2.0
Concept 4.5


Final conclusion/Comments; "Transfer production and animation qualities of EOTRS to ''Village'' Movie and you have a winner. We have to portray Africa in a positive light and EOTRS is not a perfect example".




Again since I cannot produce more than one feature in a year, it is important that I come up with something with wide appeal, so in as much as I want to be liberal, I do not have the time and the financial capacity to do just that (which is actually why I started learning this stuff back in 2003). Somebody suggested the talking animal African folk lore angle but I made it clear they have to shoot me first before I delve into that. At the end of the day, I am left with two options;



1. Cave in to their request (not bad but I shouldn't be goaded into doing that, I should do it because I want to)

2. Forget about them and do it the way I want (more headache with satisfaction in the end)


I have options but I find myself tilting towards option 1. since these guys have the cloud to push it up a little bit towards mainstream (not really my goal as an indie but hey, )

Kemjisuper:
You had better not disagree. If you're a good graphics person, you should be able to work with all kinds of resolutions. Sometimes you may even be required to fix a bad picture because you're a professional.

Nope, it has nothing to do with being good . Note that I used the term "Meaningful'' which means yes, I can work with that but it won't be ''meaningful'' there won't be clarity of details since I wouldn't like to do anything crappy.

Kemjisuper:
Don't give excuses, it's either you can do it, or you can't. If you're willing to learn, just ask.

You're kidding me, right?

Kemjisuper:
I've posted some examples to show you it's not impossible too.

I never used the term 'impossible'. Since this is not a do or die affair, I'd request a larger image with better quality. C'mon man, am I really asking the impossible?

Kemjisuper:
So, don't discourage others. I'll post some more samples with time.


Cheers

Nah, I ain't trying to discourage nobody, this is only applicable to me and I was just voicing my Humble Opinion.

Be Cool

dakmanzero:
question: was eotrs profitable?

Answer: Nope,not at all.

Reason 1. Shoddy distribution
Reason 2. Zero promotion
Reason 3. Non Existent Distribution
Reason 4. Concept: They prefer animated 'village' stories with no western influence ( and I was trying very hard to side track such concept)
Reason 5. Lack of the drive to push it.
Reason 6. Swamped by other projects so eotrs was pushed to the background.

dakmanzero:
If they have issues, is there any way I can just wire the cash straight to you and have you send me the file via the web?

Also are you in Lagos? If so, could u IM me on yahoo- I may have 1 or 2 people to recommend to you

The amount involved is too little for you to go through the wire hassle. My bros will be in Lagos pretty soon, I guess I should work out something. I am not in Lagos but that shouldn't be a problem, if they have access to the internet, that should be enough. They will be dealing only with raw animation files which are usually not in anyway as huge as rendered files. I'll hit ya up asap.

I think the Scroll's strongest point is the convincing characters. For instance, the love connection between Jubei and Kigero is fascinating and very believable. You know from the beginning that you're watching something that ain't real but in the end they glue your attention to the characters. NS is a masterpiece.

[quote author=gbade. x link=topic=36163.msg1191213#msg1191213 date=1181556014]Thanks for the info, grafik.

That would be Hungryflix.com, shey? Say, did you do it by yourself or there were other various artists?[/quote]Yup. Hungryflix.com. With the exception of voice over, I did everything on my own. If you know any naija guy/girl good in animation pls. let em get in touch with me, my new feature (approx 75 minutes) is going to take off by the end of the month or middle of July. Gonna need at least 15 good animators irrespective of the package they use, Max, XSI, Lightwave, Maya. . . (Though I'd prefer Lightwave/XSI users).

That's not a bad idea but it is going to be an uphill task in terms of generating contents. It is rather unfortunate that we don't have enough skilled animators in Naija. I will be back later with my take on this. Nevertheless, it is a good idea.

dakmanzero:
@gdon, How do I get a copy?

It's available on Hungryflix but unfortunately, there's a little issue at the moment, hopefully, it will be resolved asap.

@ D'zero. Lol I know there's more blood and guts out there, Just check out one of my favourite anime, Ninja Scroll. I was just surprised that it (AS) made it to CN or is it on a different cable network? Nah, I have seen a lot more blood and guts (Mirage of Blaze, totally weird but hey, ) and honestly, I like that more than the western monotonous 'kiddie pacifiers'.

Well, I disagree, if I am going to add a meaningful modification, I am gonna need an image with better quality (Larger) otherwise whatever I did no matter how good will be lacking in clarity.

Afro Samurai isn't bad. Too violent though and from a little review I saw, the sex is hard core with everything in full view, just a thin line between regular film and pornography. That stuff is even too strong for adult swim. Not surprised about the million bucks episode, with Samuel Jackson and Wu-Tang in the mix, watchya expect?

On a side note, Afro Samurai is a TV series and shouldn't count here,unless there's already a feature out (which I seriously doubt).

lol @ gbade it is my animated short film; ''Enemy of the Rising Sun''

I think the resolution of that picture is too low for any manipulation. Do you have a larger version of the image?

Yup, Approximately 21 minutes. Was made primarily for ipod/psp so there isn't really any plan for DVD release.

@ D'zero, good points as usual, with heavy reference to the purchase of original content. I am afraid Nigerians (sadly, most of us) have a penchant for 'stealing' original content. It is so bad with us that people who actually spend their hard earned money on contents they love are regarded as 'mugus' ,'ewu' or whatever we call fools' in Naija. Come to New York and see how Nigerians are peddling pirated Nolly movies (ridiculous dubbed to death with quality so bad you'd wonder if the viewers are under the influence of marijuana). I have a friend who has only bootleg DVDs in his 'collection' and refused to see anything wrong with that when I challenged him. I am very strict and sensitive about pirated contents and will ever remain that way!

On EOTRS, it's done and I won't really spend another moment fixing anything there. I'd rather shift that energy to a new production and make the improvements there. That's my best way of getting 'up there'. EOTRS was a learning experience. Figured out a lot of stuff along the line and even saw a lot the moment I stepped back and looked the the work. Armed with thee 'discoveries' I moved to a new project (to be announced later) which is better than EOTRS in every sense of the word.

Though very irritating, I kinda enjoyed it for awhile until those bullshi@ Crankers or whatever girls always got away with shyte, I hate it when it is one sided, i.e one person or group getting their ass whupped without any chance of turning the table around. I waited to see if the Crakers or whatever they are called will get their azz whupped, but that never happened, so I quit watching, after calling it a dumb ass cartoon.

Tom and jerry is cool but I gave up after waiting for the cat to get upper hand. Damn, it got annoying when the little fella  alwsays got the upper hand. . . so one sided. But it's a very hilarious show, nevertheless.