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blujoi:
Do all individuals react the same way given the same circumstances?

Do all individuals eat food? Yes!! Do people talk when the need arises? Yes!!

Did she eat all those years? Yes.
Did she use her mouth to talk those 15 years? I guess you know the answer.

So again what is the excuse why a 17 year old matured knowledgeable lady didn't report a rape case at least to her mom while a 9 year old naive girl did.

blujoi:
Using logic; As at 1999 was there so much awareness against rape like we have now?
Using logic; Do all individuals react the same way in the same situation?

As at 1999 many so called naive underage girls reported their molesters including my sister. Hers happened around 1989.

So what excuse does a 17 year old have.

abdeiz:
Thank you, says a lot about the kind of person you are. You have to deal with that in real life and no escaping it.

Your response says a lot about the m0ron you are and I'm glad I didn't waste time to show you.

stupidity:
OP you are a fool.


Until you understand how we Nigerians worship these men of God, then you’ll understand it takes courage to speak up on cases like this.

Thunder fire you and the foolery operating in you from generation to generation. Animal.

Going forward whoever replies me with an insult, I'll return the favor double fold.

Whoever wants to reason logically and sensible will receive the same from me.

I've received enough insults for 1 year over this issue.

etrange:
First, a kid who does not even know what "uncle" is doing to her is more likely to talk about it innocently and casually. On the other hand, a teen who understands the full implication of "uncle's" action might need some courage to spill especially if the so-called uncle is a well known/respected individual. Such persons usually believe the weight of the immediate saga would be more traumatic than the rape itself (wrong). Some believe speaking up will expose their perceived loss of dignity to the world (this why some parents fly their children abroad after rape incidence). Some would be thinking about what their fate would be if people do not get to believe them. In fact, self doubt would normally creep in and gradually they recline and keep it in their hearts (forever sometimes). If you've never been a victim or have no close person who's been there, you might never appreciate this.

Secondly, I don't even understand why the emphasis is on how long it took her to come out. Does time change the concept of rape? Even if she spoke up after 50yrs, the question is, did the man do it? The good thing is that she's not keeping mute forever and other victims would derive courage from her case. It would have been a different thing if the man had come out to apologise (maybe before now). In that case, we'd be saying he did it before he met God.

My sister knew what she escaped from and reported it as such.

This is not the time and age when people are too naive. The media and technology have broadened people's knowledge.

8 years olds are on Facebook, 2go and whatsapp.

Some of the problems and complications of reporting it late:

1. Many or all evidences would have been lost.

2. The aggressor would have fought and beat his bad character by then as everyone have done at one time or the other. It would be totally unfair by then to call him out.

3.Everyone had skeletons sometime in his/her past including the lady victims of abuse that spoke out late. What was the theft, prostitution, runs, abortion etc they left behind in the past to accuse another person of rape 20 years after.

Credible reports has it that Busola Dakolo was wayward in the past. If it's true do you know how many men she seduced and destroyed. Did anyone crucify her for that.

4. It easily creates doubts and divisions of views. A lot of people find it difficult to believe and they are right.

5. At a time ladies wake up and accuse innocent men of rape over minor disagreements it's necessary "real" victims are "educated" to report promptly to avoid all above listed.

6. At a time when ladies accuse men of rape and its immediately accepted as fact, its proper its reported quickly and early so its easily investigated and innocent man spared and the guilty punished.




As much as we say there's no excuse for rape,there shouldn't be any excuse for a 17 year old that has come to full year of accountability to fail to report a rape attempt let alone a full fledged rape.

Zombiekiller010:
Have been wrongly accused of rape.

Let me share my story here.

When i was in my final semester in sch, there is one
ND1 pretty endowed lady(big ass) that used to catch my attention , i collected her number and we started talking and she accepted to date me, not up to a week, she came to know my hostel, i also went to visit her to know where she live outside campus, everything was going smoothly ,on my 2nd visitation to her, we smooch ,she is a churchy type (SU) telling me she is a virgin and not ready for premarital sex, been a guy with OT , i expressed my love to her and the reason why she need to open legs for me to boost our love, she lost herself in romance and we had our first sex ,no drop of blood, thou she is tight, on my 2nd visitation to her in the evening, it was already late and she told me to sleep over, we had our 2nd sex , we both enjoyed it and she told me how she has loved me more, on my 3rd visitation to her, i went with my 2 friends, she welcome us ,play and i took her out to buy her provisions, so the following week, i started writing my final semester exam, no time to call her like b4 and to visit her, she sent me messages expressing how much she miss me and needs to see me, shorty after i finished my exam for that day, i & my friend went to visit that my new endowed girlfriend , my friend went back to the hostel leaving me at my girlfriends place, after joking, lots to talks and romance, we had our 3rd sex, i went back to my hostel that evening relaxing outside on a bench, not up to 30min i got home,

I heard, this is the guy, a hot slap hit on my ear and push me down from bench, b4 i know whats happening, many guys has been beating me and stripped me to my boxer, i hold my balls and dick to protect it from getting hit and i was shouting for help cus i dont know those guys beating me ,i dont know what i did, many people gathered to watch , it was some elderly people in that street that came to rescue me from those guys , when one of those guys beating me switch on torch light to look at my face, he happens to be the guy i know and i do give him little change in street( he is a well know thug) . everybody was eager to know what have done to deserve the beating, those guys said it was a church brother to that my endowed girlfriend that raised alarm to them that i raped Bunmi, at this point,i was like which Bunmi, she stare at me and said i raped her, some guys started hitting me again, i was giving opportunity to talk, i showed them messages that Bunmi sent to me that same day expressing her love to me , i showed them proof that have once slept over at her room and this is our 3rd sex, Bunmi couldn't denied it cuz of the text messages i showed as evidence that we were dating, those thugs slapped her, hit and and tore her clothe, they started apologising to me and everybody that came to watch that scene started raising curse on Bunmi for accusing me wrongly, i know you'll want to know her reasons for accusing me of rapping her.

She said she felt bad for opening legs for me within 3 weeks that we meet , i also think she was dating her church member and they haven't had sex prior to the time i asked her out, seems they had issues b4 i met her and that reconcile on my 3rd visitation to her place , maybe she narrated her sex life with me to her church boyfriend , you know ladies always hide under rape to make them looks like they didn't consent to sex, Bunmi and her foolish sympathisers left in shame, police station is Opp her house, they asked her why she didn't went to report to police, as a poor boy i be then, no means to take up the matter legally but
Am still waiting for the best time to revenge.

Bunmi 2018 set of Office technology department OND @ the polytechnic Ibadan,living at Oluyole medical laboratory building sango ibadan opp police barack

back to the Issue of Fatoyinbo, he may truly had sex with Busola,been a married man and a Pastor, he is wrong if he is guilty,as for Busola Dakolo, you cant tell me a 17 years old girl is too young to resist sex back then, its like saying regina Daniel should come out in the next 10 years for accuse Ned Nwoko of raping her and forcefully marrying her if Ned later divorce her.

Timi Dakolo had issues with that pastor and want to use his wife as a tool to tarnish his image.

Please share this your false rape story everywhere online. It has opened my eyes more.

Hopefully it will open the eyes of blinded Nigerians everywhere and liberate countless innocent men that have been brutalized and locked up over rape that never happened

Born2Breed:
Just like Bill Cosby...

Bill Cosby. There was proof. He even admitted to using qualludes on some of his victims.

CosmicPhoenix:

they dress in a provocative manner but will come out to say 'dont sexualize us'.

Thanks for bearing witness to my point.
The hypocrisy is so glaring but everyone chose to ignore because "almighty beautiful ladies" are involved and no one dares speak or become branded "pervert"

My sister at age 9 reported an attempted rape from a relative the very next day it happened. Many younger naive girls have done the same.

Now a lady at full age of 17 had to wait 15 whole years to report a multiple full rape case and I say it's improper and wrong and everyone wants to crucify me for it.


If a minor is raped and speaks later its tolerable. But if a lady of accountable age cannot speak until 10 years later, she better remains silent forever.


I dislike where people pour too much emotion and sentiments into every matter without applying common sense and logic.

freemi:
wen it happens to ur sister come n open ur mouth like thid n defend d man. U don't know d meaning of rape especially wen it involves teenage naive gurls

It will happen to dumb people like you bereft of common sense, I won't involve your innocent sister.

Even my sister at 9 years of age promptly reported an attempted rape.

Rape kee 17 year old idiots like you there.

Hipsofagoddess:
You are actually the one without brains because this was the quote I started from where you wrote about so many rapists and armed robbers. Better go and take some lecithin for your porous brain.

The thing pain you ba! I'm glad to find out.

Hipsofagoddess:
Yet I mentioned they will still pay for their crimes. And you were talking about people who have repented. What makes you think the accused has repented?

My friend use your God given brain for once. We're discussing this case as it "generally" relates to both past and future rape cases and the people involved.

Where did I mention Pastor Biodun or Mrs Busola has repented or not repented.

Beadex1:
yes it is but why wait till now to say it. My ex-gf once told me how she was molested by her church member years ago and coincidentally this guy was my classmate in primary school. I asked her why didn't you tell your dad or mom about it her reply was that she was enjoying it that the guy use to rub at the entrance alone I was dumbfounded

You see deception. One day after 30 years she'll wake up and call out the guy that has probably positively changed his life for rape he has managed to defeat the habit.

Lets call the same ladies out 30 years after for prostitution runs they did back in campus but have now changed and you'll see how they'll cry foul.

Hipsofagoddess:
You may choose them, God may choose them, but remember, Absalom slept with all David's wives on the rooftop.

Moreover, think of all the decisions you made when you were 17, we're they sensible?

Thank God you said God may choose them. If God chooses them, who are you to judge God.

capitalzero:
1.His opinion does not count
2. Shame
3.She was young,naive and confused. She was psychologically traumatised and attached to him-Stockholm syndrome
4. Her parents may not believing her accusing the pastor.
5. Very possible. Most rapists are acquaintances of victims.
Conclusion:
Rape is most under-reported crime in the world. All accusations must be taken seriously and properly investigated especially if victims have nothing to gain and are doing fine in their endeavour.

Then why don't you encourage her to go to court and present evidences.

Any lady can wake up anyday and accuse a man she hates of rape and it becomes fact.

Doctor Stockholm syndrome who diagnosed her and whose opinion counts

Estellie:
rape is now likened to stealing meat from pot??

Have u ever been raped in the ass?

Rape is not an extreme crime?

This one is gonna be a dad someday o..nawa

My friend if you're raped at 17 when you are very sensible and fail to report it and get justice when evidences are fresh, a lot of people won't take you seriously when you decide to report it 20 years after.

I'm among those people and I have no apology.

There were many rapists and armed robbers that have beat their ugly past and positively turned their lives around and are inspiring people with their story and helping the society and positively changing lives more than irrational self righteous gays like you.

I'll choose them anyday more than self righteous people right now that will constitute nuisance tomorrow.

engrelvis:
no b yr fault sha.is because we r living in lawless society ( we will get there with women coming out).if Na abroad ving sex with a minor (17yrs) don first finish d pastor.u r nt getting it.is nt d issue of busola being willing or unwilling .is about an adult taking undue advantage of a minor because he has power to do so.by d way is nt all girls DAT r close to their mother. going by her public status busola knows she has alot to lose n yet she came out? My brother dis girl must v been suffering for a long time. I v read where girls eventually kill their molester after how many yrs.at d time of molestation dey even willingly had sex with d idiot because he was able toconvince dem.When those girls finally grow up n realise dey v been taken advantage of because of their young age hatred will start.

Brother I just don't buy everything because America says that's how it is or because everybody attaches sentiments and emotions to it.


I reason things logically. I support that pedophiles should be stoned but will still question that girl that has come to full aged of accountability that clearly instigated or aided the act against every moral advice from parents and churches. If she did same with her male age mate everyone would've blamed her at least to correct her.


If a lady enjoyed sex and wasn't raped and eventually killed the molester, she committed a crime. She's as cold blooded as her molester.

I see her no different from the weirdos that kill people that insulted them over an argument.

erinalex:
If I get u well, your problem is the period it took her to report.

Sorry to disagree with you.

Rape case is not just a usual case, that u can go to police station and report.

It takes zeal, courageous mind and determination to come out and say it to the world.

So many things are attached to it, Shame, Stigmatization etc

Do you know anything about Bill Cosby's case rape in America ?

It took Cosby's victims 20 to 30 yrs before they could sum up courage to reveal to d world ,what they went through in d hands of cosby after decades of keeping it to themselves.

I think, since non of us is there when the alleged rape happened, let us be careful in judging, both Bukola and Fatoyinbo.

For now,nobody among us know the Truth.

Let us be patient.

Good morning

It took Cosby victims 20 or 30 years because there wasn't freedom of expression for women back then.

Besides its not everybody today that supports the Bill Cosby outcome.

If you were to jail people for wrongs they did 30 years ago, everyone... I repeat everyone will be jailed.

Many people dropped bad habits and attitudes along the line and it will be unfair to charge them for it 30 years after except in extreme crime cases like murder and the likes.

You don't want to tell me you didn't steal from your mother's pot cos I did back then but can never today.

sparog:
Watch the video and stop asking stupid questions just cos you wanna sound intelligent

You are the only stupid person here if you've watched the videos and are still bereft of common sense to see obvious loopholes in the story.

sonofElElyon:
You lose sight of the fact that some are more easily intimidated than others.. She said he came to her and said she doesn't talk to people.. Always quiet.. Signs of an introvert... Weak minded at that time.. In law rape doesn't have to include the use of force.. It is just coercing someone into having sex against her will. Sex with a 17 year old girl is in fact statutory rape because in law she does not yet have the capacity to legally consent..

She "unwilling" allowed him to have sex with her multiple times
Above quoted from your post.. "Unwillingly" makes it rape.. Even if willingly its statutory rape because of her age.. Also it was twice and not multiple times so it shows you didn't watch her interview but only drew conclusions from reno omokri's hasty conclusion..
My conclusion: It is too hasty to conclude without a thorough investigation and even at that, not all crimes can be proven.. Let's not rush to conclude

Agreed!! Statutorily its rape based on 17 yr below consent. That's not my point.

She made it look like an actual forced rape encounter but her story didn't add up. We all have what we call "common sense".

My point is that its not a "forced rape encounter" . And I used points to back up my claim.

Kunlegzy:
where did you see multiple times? All the olodos Nigerians are raising lately. Does it mean you cannot read and decipher things?

Did you even listen to her interview??

tiwiex:
You said she wasn't RAPED. Then you said she "UNWILLING" allowed him to have sex. My brother, unwilling sex is RAPE. You contradict yourself.

UNWILLING SEX IS NOT RAPE.

Even in marriage or teenage relationships there are several times wives or girlfriends are "UNWILLING" to have sex but allow it anyway just so hubby/boyfriend won't complain. Does that count as rape?

80% percent of the times men beg ladies for sex ladies are unwilling. Most do it unwillingly just so they get the goodies they want from the man.

PLEASE IN YOUR EDUCATED MIND DOES THIS COUNT AS RAPE?? ??

Powerbroker:
I like your critical/logical reasoning. However, this current allegation begs the question: "why always him?"
Busola is a public figure. Therefore, I do not think she has made up the story. Or could it be a case of relationship gone South?

Please read again. I fully agree they had sex because the pastor is obviously notorious for that.

I simply do not accept it was rape based on the flaws of her story and the points I made.

Read Reno Omokri's observations on this matter and anyone that has a functioning brain will easily understand there are loopholes in the story.

Beadex1:
.. .We shouldn't forget female/male opportunist will also use rape allegation as a tool to blackmail good people out there.
A stitch in time saves nine

This is the most outstanding point you've made. The govt. should simply legislate that anyone that fails to report a rape claim when evidences are still fresh should stay silent forever.

Else any lady can wake up one day and claim all the men she hates raped her and it becomes fact.

1. Her story simply didn't add up. Reno Omokri logically broke it down.

2. Why did she wait this long to come out. Ese Walter saga should have emboldened her to speak if she was truly raped.

3. She claimed she was raped multiple times. This was her biggest flaw. If the first one was rape, the rest wasn't as long as she wasn't living with the man. She was at least 17 and can reason.

4. Why didn't she report to her parents. At least to her mother if she was shy.

5. How could he rape her in her own parents house with relatives present and there was no ruse.



MY CONCLUSION:

She wasn't raped. She "unwilling" allowed him to have sex with her multiple times but she was disappointed with him as a so called pastor.

It haunted her and she felt so ashamed and chose a rape claim as escape route.

Ladies deliberately dress seductively and inappropriately and are innocent angels.

Any man that complains is a pervert!!


What a way we reason as a society.



TELL ME AS A LADY HOW WILL YOU FEEL IF WE THE MEN HAVE TO ONLY WEAR UNDERPANTS THAT FULLY EXPOSE HALF OUR DICK AND BUTTS AND CALL IT FASHION.



Will ladies not be honestly disturbed and disgusted. Will that make them perverts??

SweetBuns:
Hmmmm.... Do this at your own risk. Some men are sex vampires. they will take advantage of you and suck you dry and then abandon ship.
Sister, all your topics are about sex. Why?

Because a man is behind that username and not a lady

ubunja:
and after those 10 years she doesn't even report it. She reveals it on Social Media. attention whôrés

Thank you!!

doitforyou:
So based on what happened today with people saying a married woman with kids that has everything to lose is lying. Tell me why/how do you think rape victims will be brave enough to come out and report their rapists? No be Naija we dey again, where every woman above the age of 12 is lying on a man to be bring him down.

Pls read again what I wrote. Its in simple English. If a lady within the age of accountability is raped, she should report it at once. She has no business keeping it till 10 years or 20 years after.

It sends the wrong message... especially to people that still have working brains.

Pot calling kettle black. Both of them are on the wrong sides of history.

History doesn't support what they stand for until now.

Birds of the same feather fighting each other for relevance.

Both of them dey chook people's sh!t oozing nyash and vice versa.