₦airaland Forum

AntiisIam:
You have to show where Bible says you Muslims should be kpaaii or hated

The expulsion of Jews and Christians from Mecca and Medina (which remained till date) is the direct anti state activities of them against the constitution that setup the new state of Islam (Hejaz, Mecca and Medina) at the time. While they agreed to the terms of the constitution, they worked behind it in the background. They consistently breached the terms of alliances and committed treasonable offenses such as the Jewish tribes Banu Qaynuqa and Banu Nadir who repeatedly violated non-aggression terms, collusion with external enemies such as during the battle of the Trench when key Jewish tribes broke their peace pacts and allied with the besieging pagan Quraysh of Mecca essentially establishing themselves as an internal fifth-columnists within the muslim community and posing a fatal threat to the survival of the new constitution as a whole.

Quran 8:12 (full verse)

Remember, O Prophet, when your Lord revealed to the angels, “I am with you. So make the believers stand firm. I will cast horror into the hearts of the disbelievers. So strike their necks and strike their fingertips."

This is the Promise that God Almighty made to the Holy Prophet (SAllahuAlaihiWaSallam) when his army was outnumbered in more than three folds by the enemy army when the war was brought to his doorstep in Medina all the way from Mecca and he had to standup to his feet against a well armed military and who have secured strategic positional advantage over his men. Allah fulfilled His promise for the Prophet by instantly changing the climate of the world. On seeing how the weather was getting increasingly unfavourable for their plans the pagans lost confidence and became easy picks for the muslims who went on to secure victory in that battle The verse has nothing to do with going about randomly killing people, abducting or kidnapping them and also has nothing against the people of any particular religion.

This guy should keep quiet and go and sit down somewhere. Few times I have listened to him, he clearly lacks dept. His type of analyses is part of the problem. Thankfully, the muslim scholars of Oyo state have unanimously advised the government against this frivolous demand. Kidnapping is not a way to spread Islam. And never ever will it be. It is an act of terrorism and under the Islamic law itself, capital punishment is recommended for it. Lack of knowledge about Islam is what is even more harmful in the fight against terrorism in Nigeria. This is a sad situation because as evidenced here on Nairaland, the only view of Islam acceptable to some people is the portrayal of Islam as violent event though this is a blatant error or skewed understanding or deliberate twisting of history.

May they succeed with resounding victory insha Allah.

God bless PBAT
God bless our military operatives
God bless Nigeria

They are only adding this line of demand for Sharia in order to gain some sort of unsolicited appeal. In reality, their action of terrorism according to the Sharia is to kill them or amputate them in a special way that will forever identify them as societal misfits. Their actions have no validation in Islam whatsoever. Funny enough, naive christians, as usual, will shout 'yes!' that's how their religion is. And the terrorists or the evil actors who placed them on this path, know this gap between the two opposing religions, so they play the cards so well. Unfortunate!!!

Kudos to the Yoruba muslim scholars for standing for the truth here.

Thank you dear Jagaban.
I believe you will deliver on security at the end of day.
May the enemies of the country in whatever shape or form be put to shame.

May whoever it is that is behind this be put to complete shame.

If this weighty allegation is true, then shame on those who were quick to point the accusing finger on others.

I know this is political but Jagaban has dragged on for too long on this particular subject matter while the lives of defenceless citizens keep getting waisted. The affected ones today were the ones who cried for the victims of yesterday. This is a large governance hole that the government of the day has yet to address. Or are there some vested interests within the hierarchy vehemently opposed to the establishment of state policing? Why are the people not empowered to be proactive about their safety or to be able to put up a minimal resistance in the face of a brazen attack on their community because this is essentially state policing. If the government has failed to address the proliferation of arms, then they should help the people with the necessary policy adjustments and bootstrapping to organise themselves against these senseless marauders.

Hm!
I fear this combination make I no lie you.

Dear Minister of State for Defence, at a time when school children celebrated the sallah period in captivity, you should have toned down your celebrations because this deplorable state of security in the country is directly under your watch. We want to see drastic changes in the security apparatus of the country. You have a unique opportunity to make yourself a hero by designing or backing transforming security policies that can put the people in charge of their safety rather than leaving them helpless in the face of relentless attacks by these non state actors. As a supporter of Jagaban, I don't think this is a time to print a large emblem of his logo on a babariga. There are other more impactful ways you can win for him without being loud about it yet the people will recognise your work for it.

SubhanAllah

Terrorists don't deserve a place among humans

Why has the government suddenly gone quiet with respect to state policing again Are there forces within the hierarchy that are working against this? Then what major internal security policy shift have the people assigned with the responsibility of national security announced or implemented to counter the activities of these terrorist? None, to best of my knowledge. Except giving us scores every now and then. Today, terrorists kill some military men. Tomorrow military kill some terrorists. Same old command structure, same old result.

TDIsaac:
What of Eid Mubarak? What is the meaning?

(Have a) blessed feast

It's a greeting.

If I supported Dangote to disrupt the import cabals in order to favor the citizens, I must also support price war in favor of us Nigerians. The goal is the people

Tjra:
Nairaland will become Naijaland.

Seun, don't sleep on it.

Someone about to cash out on Seun. And he better act fast because not only is domain already an asset but buyers are shopping for it.

Metrofox:
Trump dey nairaland? be like you need brain electrician

You never can tell.
According to Trump himself, "there is a trouble-making website from Nigeria" that gives him a lot of headache. Where else is he or his policies most discussed in Nigeria?

Does that mean that only him wants to corner the lion's share of the IPO on offer?

Population shrinkage from 25% to less than 2%. Somebody needs to remind Trump the most dangerous place on earth to be a christian.

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Op can only deceive his/her ilk

Eliminate terrorism, that's all we are asking for. Not pushing a one-sided story like before.

Thank you Nigerian Armed forces and their American partners.
Thank you Federal Government of Nigeria

“PFAs are required to ensure that all investments made under this dispensation are in compliance with their internal investment policies, risk management frameworks, and fiduciary duties to contributors and retirees,” it noted.

This is stylishly rubbing the Nigerian worker.

Why not allow the contributor to withdraw the funds themselves from their pension contributions solely for the purpose of purchasing the IPO, so that the money is taken from the funds administrator and immediately credited to Dangote for the purchase of the IPO for them? In this case all the gains go to the Nigerian worker's account. Why should PFAs be allowed to suddenly start buying IPOs when they were not allowed to do so prior now . Why instantly change the rules against the interest of the contributors and in favour of the PFAs and, of course indirectly, Pencom?

I hope that they have not worked out an evil machination with the funds administrators to short change the Nigerian worker's years of labouring by putting themselves in the middle? Because in the end you may only get what your PFA declares for you from what I can deduce.

When it comes time for the Nigerian worker to enjoy his years of painstaking contributions to building a functional society, another evil in the name of a new policy shows up to deny them?

I hope that I am wrong though but the signs are too glaringly obvious to ignore

I use this medium to humbly call on the attention of our dear

@The Senate of the Federal Republic of Nigeria
@House of Representatives

to kindly look into this issue because of its far-reaching implications.

Similarly, the lack of directness in luke 2:21 leaves room for other interpretations.

It is also possible that the truth is somewhere hidden in the at bolded. To start with, don't you think that this lack of certainty in luke 2:21 could be pointing to Jesus also being born circumcised already. I mean for someone having been born through virgin birth, is that too much for Allah to do also? Think about it. May be christianity lost that important aspect of his delivery and Allah decided to remind the world again when the holy Prophet (s.a.w.) was born.

RightChanneI:
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No genuine source or authentic hadith will ever tell you that Jibreel or Abd Muttalib circumcised your prophet or born circumcised. If you have any authentic hadith, share it with me
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You managed to put together a meaningless post here. Sorry

AntiisIam:
Seems you can't comprehend or you lack comprehensive skills

We have record on the circumcision of Jesus Christ and to proof yourself on the circumcision of your anobi, you are struggling with the internet to help you out on the big mess you find yourself

Boy, don't hide under ambiguity for your escaping route. I understand all run away tactics you muslims here do adopted when been cornered

I said your anobi was not circumcised, you called it ambiguity just because you can't proof yourself that he was circumcised. See Bobo, use google from now till next year, you will never see it from a genuine source or authentic hadith that he was circumcised. Don't tag this as ambiguity just because we are revealing and exposing what you knoweth not

The festival is not empirical to the bible text in luke 2:21, it built on top of it. But if the starting text shows vagueness, then the possibility for alternative interpretation is not removed by the festival.

Mohel is a title. So don't try to pass it off as the name of the man who circumcised Jesus because you want to prove by force that you knew who circumcised Jesus.

So pick your ambiguity and stick with it. Believing in a story that may not be better qualified than a fabricated hadith (mawdu) in Islam standardisation or believing in one that may be weak (daef) but does not necessarily mean fabricated.

AntiisIam:
The traditional Church have a celebration on January 1st called, the Feast of the Circumcision. It is a reminder of how Mary and Joseph from the beginning were determined to bring Jesus up in the way of Jehovah.

They were not disobedient to the Law of Moses which clearly stated that the boy needed to be circumcised on the 8th day after his birth (Lev 12:3).

Mohel the man who circumcised Jesus, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived.

He was a child of the covenant of Abraham whose blessing was for the nations. They were not disobedient either to the angel who had instructed Mary to name her son Jesus (Matthew 1:21). Jesus Christ is also for the nations, for all people, the Saviour, Christ the Lord.

From where you copied this from, didn't you see it there that it is very weak (da‘eef) or you intentionally look away that aspect? Circumcision on the seventh day, look for an authentic hadith to proof yourself and not a weak one

Here is Luke 2:21
And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus...

Certainly this entry in the bible did not answer the format of the challenge that you posed, for christians: So who circumcise your Jesus according to the Bible?

That is how you people come to Nairaland to deceive people with your made up stories.

If I were to follow your pattern, I can begin to push my assumptions too. Because the quoted sentence is as vague as it can be. It did not even categorically answer the question if Jesus was circumcised. Us muslims accepting Jesus as circumcised is not even based on the strength of the writing, if any. It is based solely on our upbringing as muslims.

According to the bases for recognising religious facts, the entire book of Luke would have been categorised unsubstantiated and weak (daef) in Islam and his book would have been thrown out at first sighting. Because Luke never met Jesus and did not tell us who he got his writing about Jesus from in a manner of I learnt this here or there and from so and so. Yet his book is inside the bible as if it was revealed of God. In Islam, that kind of book could not have been accepted among good sources of Hadees let alone the Divine Qur'an.

Ibn al-Qayyim cited the historian Ibn al-Adeem who reported that Abdul Muttalib (The Prophet, s.a.w., grandfather) circumcised the Prophet on the seventh day after his birth and held a banquet in his honor, according to a report from Ibn Abbas.

- In Tuhfat al-Mawlood by Ibn al-Qayyim.

Other scholars noted that at the time, circumcision was already the tradition of the Arabian tribe that the holy Prophet, s.a.w., belonged.

AntiisIam:
In all your books I have read, no where it is written that your anobi was circumcised. If you have any evidence that he was circumcised, bring it up

YES, Luke 2:21

Even if it was written in your hadith, why not show us as simple as ABC

Honestly, I thought you were going to show an evidence that states that he was not circumcised. I knew it's all about pushing assumptions. Your question is only as wise as asking who circumcised Jesus in the bible? Can any christian answer the question with that precondition?

Antiislaam:
So who circumcise your anobi according to your quran?

Must it be written in the Holy Qur'an before we know that he was circumcised?

Antiislaam:
You called it assumption when it is not written in your quran that your anobi was circumcised

Projecting your assumption on Muslims again or that there is an evidence for this?

Antiislaam:
And your anobi was not circumcised

Thank God for Islam
Alhamdu LIllahi

Dangote's ex-depot price at the time of the start of the US/Israeli war on Iran was ₦825 – ₦875 per litre, now it is ₦1,275 per liter? Na jejely Straits of Hormuz dey operate before o.

Even though I supported Dangote's disciplinary measure, I am happy for the recalled staff. It shows magnanimity. It's a win-win for everyone now

In other words, he is going to build a bigger refinery of over 750,000 bpd processing capacity for it to be able to surpass the Jamnagar refinery whose peak processing capacity stands at 1.4m bpd. That's not just a mere expansion, it is another refinery altogether meant to dwarf the current one, which caps at 650,000 bpd

Dangote has taken over

babat89:
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So that is proof the West backed the Serbs.
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Yes because you can now see how the wider west helped planned the massacre, organised it, removed obstacles to it and watched it play out live from satellite images while keeping mute at the same time. Evil

babat89:
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Show proof they were Western backed.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/04/west-true-role-in-srebrenica-massacre-bosnia#:~:text=Robert%20Frasure%2C%20a%20US%20diplomat,Read%20more

Excerpts attached.

babat89:
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So you know, whilst Serbs were commiting war crimes, NATO and Western Special Forces were going after them and enforcing rule of law.

Enough with your conspiracies oga!

Over one hundred thousand European muslims were murdered in that war crimes, simply for being muslims, by their own fellow western backed christian slavic brothers. On an occasion, eight thousand were massacred in a single day.