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PoliticsRe: Makinde’s Govt Orchestrated Oyo Abduction To Blackmail Tinubu – Fayose Alleges by GreenCovering: 10:15am On Jun 02
May whoever it is that is behind this be put to complete shame.

If this weighty allegation is true, then shame on those who were quick to point the accusing finger on others.
PoliticsRe: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by GreenCovering:
I know this is political but Jagaban has dragged on for too long on this particular subject matter while the lives of defenceless citizens keep getting waisted. The affected ones today were the ones who cried for the victims of yesterday. This is a large governance hole that the government of the day has yet to address. Or are there some vested interests within the hierarchy vehemently opposed to the establishment of state policing? Why are the people not empowered to be proactive about their safety or to be able to put up a minimal resistance in the face of a brazen attack on their community because this is essentially state policing. If the government has failed to address the proliferation of arms, then they should help the people with the necessary policy adjustments and bootstrapping to organise themselves against these senseless marauders. undecided
PoliticsRe: Atiku Abubakar Visits Rotimi Amaechi After Primaries (Photos And Videos) by GreenCovering: 5:23pm On May 28
Hm!
I fear this combination make I no lie you.
PoliticsRe: A Visit Of Loyalty: Matawalle’s Salah Homage To Tinubu In Lagos by GreenCovering:
Dear Minister of State for Defence, at a time when school children celebrated the sallah period in captivity, you should have toned down your celebrations because this deplorable state of security in the country is directly under your watch. We want to see drastic changes in the security apparatus of the country. You have a unique opportunity to make yourself a hero by designing or backing transforming security policies that can put the people in charge of their safety rather than leaving them helpless in the face of relentless attacks by these non state actors. As a supporter of Jagaban, I don't think this is a time to print a large emblem of his logo on a babariga. There are other more impactful ways you can win for him without being loud about it yet the people will recognise your work for it. sad
PoliticsRe: Sad Pictures Of The Day. (Viewers Discretion) by GreenCovering: 9:50am On May 28
SubhanAllah sad

Terrorists don't deserve a place among humans

Why has the government suddenly gone quiet with respect to state policing again huh Are there forces within the hierarchy that are working against this? Then what major internal security policy shift have the people assigned with the responsibility of national security announced or implemented to counter the activities of these terrorist? None, to best of my knowledge. Except giving us scores every now and then. Today, terrorists kill some military men. Tomorrow military kill some terrorists. Same old command structure, same old result.

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IslamRe: What Is The Difference Between Eid-ul-adha And Eid-el-kabir? by GreenCovering: 2:08pm On May 27
TDIsaac:
What of Eid Mubarak? What is the meaning?
(Have a) blessed feast

It's a greeting.
BusinessRe: Dangote Faces Price War As NNPC Backs Fuel Imports by GreenCovering: 3:04pm On May 26
If I supported Dangote to disrupt the import cabals in order to favor the citizens, I must also support price war in favor of us Nigerians. The goal is the people smiley
BusinessRe: Court Orders eNaira Payment Solutions Ltd To Drop ‘Naira’ From Its Name by GreenCovering: 11:20am On May 23
Tjra:
Nairaland will become Naijaland.

Seun, don't sleep on it.
Someone about to cash out on Seun. And he better act fast because not only is domain already an asset but buyers are shopping for it.

TravelRe: All Migrants seeking PR or US green cards must apply from home countries - DHS by GreenCovering: 8:17pm On May 22
Metrofox:
Trump dey nairaland? be like you need brain electrician grin
You never can tell.
According to Trump himself, "there is a trouble-making website from Nigeria" that gives him a lot of headache. Where else is he or his policies most discussed in Nigeria?
BusinessRe: Otedola To Invest $100m In Dangote Refinery by GreenCovering: 9:58pm On May 20
Does that mean that only him wants to corner the lion's share of the IPO on offer?
Christianity EtcRe: Videos Of Attacks On Christians Reveal Violence On The Rise In Jerusalem by GreenCovering: 9:34pm On May 18
Population shrinkage from 25% to less than 2%. Somebody needs to remind Trump the most dangerous place on earth to be a christian.
Nairaland GeneralRe: 100 Most Influential Persons in History By World Statistics by GreenCovering: 6:28pm On May 18
Opinion Poster - 100 Most Influential Persons in History By World Statistics
Article source - By Steven Skiena and Charles B. Ward... Disclaimer: The views expressed are solely their own

Op can only deceive his/her ilk undecided
Foreign AffairsRe: ISIS Leader, Abu-Bilal al-Minuki Killed By US & Nigerian Forces - Trump by GreenCovering: 8:54am On May 16
Eliminate terrorism, that's all we are asking for. Not pushing a one-sided story like before.

Thank you Nigerian Armed forces and their American partners.
Thank you Federal Government of Nigeria
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InvestmentRe: Pencom Grants Pfas Approval To Invest In Dangote Refinery’s IPO by GreenCovering:
“PFAs are required to ensure that all investments made under this dispensation are in compliance with their internal investment policies, risk management frameworks, and fiduciary duties to contributors and retirees,” it noted.
This is stylishly rubbing the Nigerian worker.

Why not allow the contributor to withdraw the funds themselves from their pension contributions solely for the purpose of purchasing the IPO, so that the money is taken from the funds administrator and immediately credited to Dangote for the purchase of the IPO for them? In this case all the gains go to the Nigerian worker's account. Why should PFAs be allowed to suddenly start buying IPOs when they were not allowed to do so prior now huh. Why instantly change the rules against the interest of the contributors and in favour of the PFAs and, of course indirectly, Pencom?

I hope that they have not worked out an evil machination with the funds administrators to short change the Nigerian worker's years of labouring by putting themselves in the middle? Because in the end you may only get what your PFA declares for you from what I can deduce.

When it comes time for the Nigerian worker to enjoy his years of painstaking contributions to building a functional society, another evil in the name of a new policy shows up to deny them? cry

I hope that I am wrong though but the signs are too glaringly obvious to ignore undecided

I use this medium to humbly call on the attention of our dear

@The Senate of the Federal Republic of Nigeria
@House of Representatives


to kindly look into this issue because of its far-reaching implications.
HealthRe: Male Circumcision Rates By Country by GreenCovering: 3:09pm On May 12
Similarly, the lack of directness in luke 2:21 leaves room for other interpretations.

It is also possible that the truth is somewhere hidden in the at bolded. To start with, don't you think that this lack of certainty in luke 2:21 could be pointing to Jesus also being born circumcised already. I mean for someone having been born through virgin birth, is that too much for Allah to do also? Think about it. May be christianity lost that important aspect of his delivery and Allah decided to remind the world again when the holy Prophet (s.a.w.) was born.

RightChanneI:
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No genuine source or authentic hadith will ever tell you that Jibreel or Abd Muttalib circumcised your prophet or born circumcised. If you have any authentic hadith, share it with me
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HealthRe: Male Circumcision Rates By Country by GreenCovering: 2:52pm On May 12
You managed to put together a meaningless post here. Sorry undecided

AntiisIam:
Seems you can't comprehend or you lack comprehensive skills

We have record on the circumcision of Jesus Christ and to proof yourself on the circumcision of your anobi, you are struggling with the internet to help you out on the big mess you find yourself

Boy, don't hide under ambiguity for your escaping route. I understand all run away tactics you muslims here do adopted when been cornered

I said your anobi was not circumcised, you called it ambiguity just because you can't proof yourself that he was circumcised. See Bobo, use google from now till next year, you will never see it from a genuine source or authentic hadith that he was circumcised. Don't tag this as ambiguity just because we are revealing and exposing what you knoweth not
HealthRe: Male Circumcision Rates By Country by GreenCovering: 2:04pm On May 12
The festival is not empirical to the bible text in luke 2:21, it built on top of it. But if the starting text shows vagueness, then the possibility for alternative interpretation is not removed by the festival.

Mohel is a title. So don't try to pass it off as the name of the man who circumcised Jesus because you want to prove by force that you knew who circumcised Jesus.

So pick your ambiguity and stick with it. Believing in a story that may not be better qualified than a fabricated hadith (mawdu) in Islam standardisation or believing in one that may be weak (daef) but does not necessarily mean fabricated.

AntiisIam:
The traditional Church have a celebration on January 1st called, the Feast of the Circumcision. It is a reminder of how Mary and Joseph from the beginning were determined to bring Jesus up in the way of Jehovah.

They were not disobedient to the Law of Moses which clearly stated that the boy needed to be circumcised on the 8th day after his birth (Lev 12:3).

Mohel the man who circumcised Jesus, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived.

He was a child of the covenant of Abraham whose blessing was for the nations. They were not disobedient either to the angel who had instructed Mary to name her son Jesus (Matthew 1:21). Jesus Christ is also for the nations, for all people, the Saviour, Christ the Lord.

From where you copied this from, didn't you see it there that it is very weak (da‘eef) or you intentionally look away that aspect? Circumcision on the seventh day, look for an authentic hadith to proof yourself and not a weak one

HealthRe: Male Circumcision Rates By Country by GreenCovering: 11:24am On May 12
Here is Luke 2:21
And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus...

Certainly this entry in the bible did not answer the format of the challenge that you posed, for christians: So who circumcise your Jesus according to the Bible?

That is how you people come to Nairaland to deceive people with your made up stories.

If I were to follow your pattern, I can begin to push my assumptions too. Because the quoted sentence is as vague as it can be. It did not even categorically answer the question if Jesus was circumcised. Us muslims accepting Jesus as circumcised is not even based on the strength of the writing, if any. It is based solely on our upbringing as muslims.

According to the bases for recognising religious facts, the entire book of Luke would have been categorised unsubstantiated and weak (daef) in Islam and his book would have been thrown out at first sighting. Because Luke never met Jesus and did not tell us who he got his writing about Jesus from in a manner of I learnt this here or there and from so and so. Yet his book is inside the bible as if it was revealed of God. In Islam, that kind of book could not have been accepted among good sources of Hadees let alone the Divine Qur'an.

Ibn al-Qayyim cited the historian Ibn al-Adeem who reported that Abdul Muttalib (The Prophet, s.a.w., grandfather) circumcised the Prophet on the seventh day after his birth and held a banquet in his honor, according to a report from Ibn Abbas.

- In Tuhfat al-Mawlood by Ibn al-Qayyim.


Other scholars noted that at the time, circumcision was already the tradition of the Arabian tribe that the holy Prophet, s.a.w., belonged.


AntiisIam:
In all your books I have read, no where it is written that your anobi was circumcised. If you have any evidence that he was circumcised, bring it up

YES, Luke 2:21

Even if it was written in your hadith, why not show us as simple as ABC
HealthRe: Male Circumcision Rates By Country by GreenCovering: 10:24am On May 12
Honestly, I thought you were going to show an evidence that states that he was not circumcised. I knew it's all about pushing assumptions. Your question is only as wise as asking who circumcised Jesus in the bible? Can any christian answer the question with that precondition?

Antiislaam:
So who circumcise your anobi according to your quran?
Must it be written in the Holy Qur'an before we know that he was circumcised?

Antiislaam:
You called it assumption when it is not written in your quran that your anobi was circumcised
HealthRe: Male Circumcision Rates By Country by GreenCovering: 8:11am On May 12
Projecting your assumption on Muslims again or that there is an evidence for this?

Antiislaam:
And your anobi was not circumcised
HealthRe: Male Circumcision Rates By Country by GreenCovering: 7:25am On May 12
Thank God for Islam
Alhamdu LIllahi
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PoliticsRe: Workers’ Day: Nigerians Buy Petrol At ₦1,440 Per Liter by GreenCovering: 3:15pm On May 01
Dangote's ex-depot price at the time of the start of the US/Israeli war on Iran was ₦825 – ₦875 per litre, now it is ₦1,275 per liter? Na jejely Straits of Hormuz dey operate before o. undecided
BusinessRe: Dangote Refinery Recalls 800 Redeployed Engineers, Grants Conditional Pardon by GreenCovering: 12:00pm On May 01
Even though I supported Dangote's disciplinary measure, I am happy for the recalled staff. It shows magnanimity. It's a win-win for everyone now smiley
BusinessRe: Dangote Refinery Expansion To Create 95,000 Jobs by GreenCovering:
In other words, he is going to build a bigger refinery of over 750,000 bpd processing capacity for it to be able to surpass the Jamnagar refinery whose peak processing capacity stands at 1.4m bpd. That's not just a mere expansion, it is another refinery altogether meant to dwarf the current one, which caps at 650,000 bpd

Dangote has taken over smiley
PoliticsRe: Türkiye To Establish Military Training Facility In Nigeria by GreenCovering: 2:24pm On Apr 22
babat89:
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So that is proof the West backed the Serbs.
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Yes because you can now see how the wider west helped planned the massacre, organised it, removed obstacles to it and watched it play out live from satellite images while keeping mute at the same time. Evil undecided
PoliticsRe: Türkiye To Establish Military Training Facility In Nigeria by GreenCovering:
babat89:
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Show proof they were Western backed.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/04/west-true-role-in-srebrenica-massacre-bosnia#:~:text=Robert%20Frasure%2C%20a%20US%20diplomat,Read%20more

Excerpts attached.

PoliticsRe: Türkiye To Establish Military Training Facility In Nigeria by GreenCovering:
babat89:
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So you know, whilst Serbs were commiting war crimes, NATO and Western Special Forces were going after them and enforcing rule of law.

Enough with your conspiracies oga!
Over one hundred thousand European muslims were murdered in that war crimes, simply for being muslims, by their own fellow western backed christian slavic brothers. On an occasion, eight thousand were massacred in a single day.
PoliticsRe: Türkiye To Establish Military Training Facility In Nigeria by GreenCovering:
babat89:
Do you think?
Do you read?

I am sure you have a brain?

Who were the foreign invaders mentioned there?

What had the Turks done to his people for centuries.
Where the Turks impaling before Vlad or not?

Where does the word Slave come from?
Who are the Slavs?

Why do Vlad's people regard him as a hero?

Why do Eastern Europeans hate Islam?

Think, read and don't use unreasonable and silly searches to make some point.
For your information, Vlad's eldest brother Mircea and their father were murdered by Hungarian foreign invaders led by John Hunyadi, in 1447

Yet, in the same Eastern Europe, Alija Izetbegovic, a full blooded European fought to preserve Islam as the adopted religion of the majority of the people of Bosnia and Hezegovina, when western europe induced machinations led to attempts to completely wipe out Islam from Europe. Sheer hatred.
PoliticsRe: Türkiye To Establish Military Training Facility In Nigeria by GreenCovering: 8:25am On Apr 22
babat89:
Why did Vlad start impaling?
Did Vlad go to the Middle East ?
Was it not in retaliation to what the Islamists had been doing to his people?

Like I said, you are a liar!

Why were Turks still impaling and skinning Greeks alive in the 1800s.
Find your response in the attached image. I used the exact line from your post in the search. If I said that in my writing, you would say it's a lie. No where is the word retaliation mentioned. In summary, he is regarded as a terrorist. You people like to twist history.

PoliticsRe: Türkiye To Establish Military Training Facility In Nigeria by GreenCovering:
babat89:
You are a liar!

Is it the same Turks that were impaling people and skinning them alive?

What did they do to the Greeks, Armenians and in Eastern Europe?

How did Islam spread in Turkey itself?
Rather it was a christian emperor who is renowned for impaling muslims, only for being muslims. His full name is VladIII, Dracula, The Impaler. Remember, whose name, Dracula, is associated with blood-sucking movies today. So don't try to change history. Even though impalement predates many empires including Turks rulership of eastern Europe, as a form of capital punishment, just like execution by firing, but which got abolished later on, Vlad specifically targeted muslims.
PoliticsRe: Türkiye To Establish Military Training Facility In Nigeria by GreenCovering:
Turkey ruled over many European countries for hundreds of years and did not forcefully Islamise them. For example, they ruled over Bulgaria for 500 years. They protected the faith and culture of the conquered territories until those colonies became independent later on. You would hardly tell that Turkey ruled them today if you visited those countries as their institutions remain preserved. Nigeria is already an independent country people, so stop this fear mongering.

In case some people don't know, this is the country that is best poised to help us with the de-radicalisation of terrorists who target muslim youths for recruitment. The Turks are not only sunnis but they also have deep knowledge of the fine points of Islam and where radical elements miss the points, having been the custodian of Islam themselves for centuries. Therefore besides helping with military know-how, they will also be able to use their deep expertise in the subtle philosophical matters of Islam to dissuade these non-state actors from their evil ways, in fact, starting from within the military ranks, which sometimes, seem a bit compromised, I hope not so.

So I am fully in support of this. This however, should be combined with state policing in order to effectively take the efforts to the very grassroots. State policing is long overdue.
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PoliticsRe: How Woro Inhabitants Were Massacred By Fanatic Islamic Jihadists by GreenCovering: 11:04am On Apr 15
Kukutente23:
It seems you enjoy shifting with lies. Banu Damrah were OUTSIDE Medina not within it. They were located in the Al-Abwa close to Medina but were never within the jurisdiction of Medina. It is between Mecca and Medina and Muhammad led his raids there not within his jurisdiction. You've also shifted to justifying the raids as an exhibition of state power. It is no longer to reclaim his seized properties now but to exert state power over the Quraysh who were never under the jurisdiction of his state. What you just described is called an expansionist aggression in international lingua. So you're inadvertently admitting that Muhammad was an aggressor in those raids contrary to your earlier claim that he was simply being defensive

The fact still stands that there was no means of identifying the quraysh caravan cause if there were, Muhammad wouldn't have kept missing them or attacking innocents in the misguided belief that they were Quraishi. If you have to attack everyone who makes friends with your enemies even if they don't attack you, then you're no different from Hitler or the Romans. You're simply justifying Hitler's invasion of Austria since he also claimed he needed them to enhance the strategic defence of Germany. It's same stance Trump is taking over Greenland. Trump is right then to insist on invading and taking over Greenland since he says it's for the strategic defence of the Pacific. It will be hypocritical to condemn Trump and defend Muhammad


This is why I usually don't put too much importance to your hadiths. Most are usually illogical and totally flawed. From your hadith above, it implies that the greetings is for all the earth since all the earth are supposed to be offsprings of Adam. Well, the simple question will be why only semitic tribes gave that form of greeting? Does it mean only semitic tribes are offsprings of Adam and the Mongols, Caucasian, Indos and Afro races who are like 2/3 of the earth and don't greet like that aren't offsprings of Adam? Is that not a direct conflict with the quranic verse that says Adam was the first man and all others came from him? More importantly, this greetings was being used by the pagans as we see from the Bedouin caravans recently before Muhammad was even conceived. Does the hadith then not imply that the pagans were obeying Allah in using that greetings? Why then were they roundly condemned by Muhammad when obviously they were following Allah's injunction with the greeting style



I find this laughable. So you went to Google to find why the other codes and constitutions that existed before the Medina code were defective. Why didn't you also Google why the Medina code can't be called a constitution in the true sense and see if you won't get a thousand and one reasons as well? In fact, the introductory line from Wikipedia goes thus:

The name "Constitution of Medina" is misleading as the text did not establish a state.[7] Furthermore, even the term "treaty" given to the document by many may not be entirely appropriate because of its "unilateral" nature.
But more importantly, a constitution is usually a product of a constituent Assembly made up of representatives of the constituencies that make up the state. The Medina code was solely formed by Muhammad and all other tribes were forced to accept it under threat of war or expulsion from Medina. If we're to go by your latest experiment, there's no way the Medina code qualifies as a constitution. It looks more like a royal edict or a military decree at best.

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